NationStates Jolt Archive


An apology to the NS community.

09-10-2003, 00:45
Dear [Violet]/NS members


For the past months, I have been posting under aliases, as obvious as they were: rpisevil etc..

Deep reflection on the events that followed the ban, and that caused the ban, as well as these months of my "reign of stupidity",the ban it was for my abusive behavior, and my tendency to "spam" the forums, rather than by normal Rp.

Regardless of all the abuse I may have recieved due to my aggression, if not spam on various sections of NS forums, it is all the past.

It does not matter any more.

I have shamed myself and blindly I continued to do so for weeks, even months out of a desire to be reaccepted in NS.


My spam was aimed, however justly I felt, wrongly towards specific people,i thought they were just ignoring me without any reason.



I also insulted the Moderators in the chatroom repeatedly by spamming, as good as the chat may have been, horribly corrupted by a hate that seemed to exist in me.

A passion that consumed me. Drove me to spam the NS forums.

And this passion anchored me in a tunnel, where-by my vision became limited. And unacceptable.

For all of these things, and more, I deeply and most sincerely apologize. :oops:

I doubt I can ever make it up to NS, and its members/moderators, all I can ask for is that no more will I be judged for the past I have created for myself.

And the enraging spam I have spread.

please reurn me the nation of klamath. :o

And in return, I can only give my peace. And utter desire to vindicate myself, for my "crimes" towards the Civility of this RP board.

All along I was complaining to myself, and a few others, that people ignored nations without reason, that civility was dying, and low-quality Ignore posts were amassing.

I refused to see that most of this degredation was of my OWN fault.

That the RP died where I posted.

That the RP quality lacked where I placed my posts.

Again, I apologize.

And again there is nothing more that can be done, but to let the past be the past, and a new future be found.

As such, I would expect no tollerance should my behavior continue as such.

Which is why I should devote myself, to living up to this apologetic covenant.

To crawl out of my past, and to be "reborn".

To live up to the name I wanted, and to the Fraternity for which it is after!

I am sorry, for all of the below:

1) Fanatical Spamming.
2) posting in an abusive manner, usually directed towards other members.
3) Convencing myself that certain members of NS were not just wrong, but against me.
4) Seeking, in part, to cause a disruption, in order to try and gather attention, that I could then use to make others feel "pity" for my banning.

I'm sure you can expand that list beyond words, and feel free to, in your own mind.

For anything you can imagine me apologizing for I am apologizing for.

I wish nothing more, than Klamath to return, and for all that was Klamath, to be gone.

In doing so, I hope your silence of my past transgressions, would be enough for you to regain at least a part of the trust I seek.

That I might better be able to let the past die, and forge a better future for myself.

And do what I most sought, bring quality RP to Nationstates.



With utmost regret of the shame I have brought to myself, and full apologies.

Sincerely, Klamath :)
09-10-2003, 00:52
double post
Western Asia
09-10-2003, 00:53
If we can give Marathon and Ziotah as many chances as we did, I am willing to see Klamath back.
Omz222
09-10-2003, 01:16
MODALERT, needs to move this to moderation forum :)
SalusaSecondus
09-10-2003, 01:49
Klamath, I'm moving this to the moderation forum, as it is more applicable there.

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling
Neutered Sputniks
09-10-2003, 02:41
You had your chances prior to your deletion and subsequent ban. It is now far too late to undue what you have done.
Qaaolchoura
09-10-2003, 02:48
Yeah they are cracking down on this stuff now.

Although I would like to see what a reformed Klamath is like, I know that the mods are right.

From watching Marathon, Drama Nation, and Beeker, the first two did not change, the second changed for the worst. Of course Spoffin has completely changed his tune for the better, but still. . .

I might consider giving you a largish puppet, as you are a famous ex-nation, but I will have to see what the mods and other players say on that idea.

Peace, Truth, and Justice,
Luke
Lemmingcus Meenicus
09-10-2003, 02:51
You had your chances prior to your deletion and subsequent ban. It is now far too late to undue what you have done.

Well then?

How many chances did Klamath have? And how many do I have left?
Neutered Sputniks
09-10-2003, 02:56
Well then?

How many chances did Klamath have? And how many do I have left?

Klamath had quite a few chances. You are a different situation. You dont spam the forums with flames, and only very rarely cross the line.
09-10-2003, 02:57
i have been restored 1 or 2 times. :?: :?: :?:
TROUSRS
09-10-2003, 02:58
:cry: Klamath come back you us. Its not the same anymore. If you read this, drop me a telegram. I may have a nation for you.
Qaaolchoura
09-10-2003, 02:59
i have been restored 1 or 2 times. :?: :?: :?:
Well they changed the policy now.

No revival if you were intentionally DEATed.
Neutered Sputniks
09-10-2003, 03:08
i have been restored 1 or 2 times. :?: :?: :?:

And therefore by inference, also deleted 2 or 3 times, meaning you didnt make the most of your chances to reform. Why do you feel you deserve to have your nation back when you've shown that restoring your nation does nothing but allow you to return to your former activities?
09-10-2003, 03:13
Klamath was banned?
Qaaolchoura
09-10-2003, 03:13
:cry: Klamath come back you us. Its not the same anymore. If you read this, drop me a telegram. I may have a nation for you.Same here, but I was going to see if he actually stayed reformed first. :evil:
09-10-2003, 03:17
Klamath probably reformed... lets wait for him to get drunk and go Klamath the forums.
09-10-2003, 03:20
i have been restored 1 or 2 times. :?: :?: :?:

And therefore by inference, also deleted 2 or 3 times, meaning you didnt make the most of your chances to reform. Why do you feel you deserve to have your nation back when you've shown that restoring your nation does nothing but allow you to return to your former activities?

i had xerlox and spietzberg for a loong time and never spammed in that perioud :roll:
Qaaolchoura
09-10-2003, 03:20
Klamath probably reformed... lets wait for him to get drunk and go Klamath the forums.
A bit off topic, but why is is that smart, insightful people like you and Melkor aways act evilly in RP?
Qaaolchoura
09-10-2003, 03:22
i had xerlox and spietzberg for a loong time and never spammed in that perioud :roll:
Xerlox, Xerlox, it rings a bell, but I can't quite put my finger on it. . .
09-10-2003, 03:38
i have been restored 1 or 2 times. :?: :?: :?:

And therefore by inference, also deleted 2 or 3 times, meaning you didnt make the most of your chances to reform. Why do you feel you deserve to have your nation back when you've shown that restoring your nation does nothing but allow you to return to your former activities?

i had xerlox and spietzberg for a loong time and never spammed in that perioud :roll:

and dont forget echelon before that :roll:
SalusaSecondus
09-10-2003, 04:25
Klamath,

Our policy is not to ressurrect nations which have been deleted as punitive action. However, assuming that you were not IP-banned (which I don't think you were), you are more than welcome to return to this site, and I am sure that there are many players that would like to see you as a positive and contributing member of this community.

You do need to realize that you are not starting from a truly clean slate, though. Though we shall not punish you for your earlier nations, all of your warnings/chances have been used by them. Thus, you have no more warnings. I'm just letting you know where you stand. I know that we all hope that this paragraph is irrelevant due to your future actions.

Welcome back, and I look forward to seeing your contributions to the game.

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SalusaSecondus
Tech Modling
Lemmingcus Meenicus
09-10-2003, 04:26
Well then?

How many chances did Klamath have? And how many do I have left?

Klamath had quite a few chances. You are a different situation. You dont spam the forums with flames, and only very rarely cross the line.

that doesn't answer my question. How many Line crossings do I have left?

On a side note - what's my appeal process for the times that you've decided I crossed the line? I feel I've answered sarcasm with sarcasm, and am willing to link the posts if prompted.

Rule of thumb with me? When someone slaps the table - I start getting silly and abrasive. :D
SalusaSecondus
09-10-2003, 04:42
that doesn't answer my question. How many Line crossings do I have left?

I don't think that you've hit the point to have an actual number attached yet. Also this really isn't the thread for this discussion.
09-10-2003, 05:16
If Klamath comes back, spam reduces. As it stands, he has a store taking up space in the II store sticky. If he returns, that ceases to be spam.
Philopolis
09-10-2003, 08:29
luckily for me, i've never had a run-in with the law 8)
09-10-2003, 12:31
I knew he was spietzberg, who else would claim to launch 8000 ICBM's at me for an OOC comment? :lol: :lol:
Tisonica
09-10-2003, 23:11
I knew he was spietzberg, who else would claim to launch 8000 ICBM's at me for an OOC comment? :lol: :lol:

Umm... you? :lol: