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Mods please read updates -- Pilmour Ambassadors

imported_Uranium
01-10-2003, 02:17
Can you please help out North America with an issue with Pilmour ambassadors. His main nation was banned from our region for multiple reasons. Now he is continually poping in and out of NA within 1 minute, knowing that he is not welcome in North America. If there any way we can ban Pilmour Ambassadors from North America, as his main nation has already been banned? Our delegate and founder would do so, but they can not catch him as he enters and leaves so quickly.
Southern Illinois
01-10-2003, 02:20
Yes, he comes in and types a message quickly then leaves, can't that be considered spamming as well? I hope. :wink:
Qaaolchoura
01-10-2003, 02:21
It might be considered regional happenings spam, if so, file a report at the Getting Help Page (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help).

I'll take a look.

Peace, Truth, and Justice,
Luke,
President of the United Socialist States of Qaaolchoura,
Founder and Delegate, Zhaucauozian Friendship,
Hawk of the UN Proposals,
Pesterer of Enodia
imported_Cspalla
01-10-2003, 02:22
File a mod report via the Getting Help (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/page=help) page. This is the best way to get help from the game mods. (look a few topics up for proof :P)

-Cspalla,
Totaly Unoffical NationStates Guy
Konania
01-10-2003, 03:43
Getting help page

[edit] d'oh, what they said.

--Felix, the dude. 8)
Ballotonia
01-10-2003, 09:26
Yes, he comes in and types a message quickly then leaves, can't that be considered spamming as well? I hope. :wink:

Depending on the context, what is said, etc... it can fall under harrassment, and in those cases has previously been ruled an actionable offense.

Basically:
- Inform Pilmour he's not wanted, and that jumping in/out while posting to the regional HQ is an undesired interruption of regional affairs.
- Make a note when/if he continues doing so. Each time, remind him of your previous request to stop said behaviour.
- If and when he persists in this behaviour, file a Mod Report using the Getting Help page.

(I think this would be so much less of an issue if there were a throttle on switching regions quickly, perhaps in combination with the last timestamp on HQ posts.)

Ballotonia
Tactical Grace
01-10-2003, 11:15
I think this would be so much less of an issue if there were a throttle on switching regions quickly, perhaps in combination with the last timestamp on HQ posts.
It would sort out the Regional Happenings ticker spamming problem too.
Arnarchotopia
01-10-2003, 15:56
Seeing as he's ACC this could be their old tactic of communication black out proceeding invasion?
Ballotonia
01-10-2003, 16:36
Seeing as he's ACC this could be their old tactic of communication black out proceeding invasion?

The ACC invading North America? Now that's an interesting idea. What would be the point of that exactly? North America has a Founder...

Ballotonia
Ackbar
01-10-2003, 16:44
Seeing as he's ACC this could be their old tactic of communication black out proceeding invasion?

The ACC invading North America? Now that's an interesting idea. What would be the point of that exactly? North America has a Founder...

Ballotonia

Could be one reason they aren't the most sucessful group of invaders out there... :lol:
imported_Uranium
02-10-2003, 00:02
NA and the ACC have a long standing problem with each other, but the odds of trying to invade each other are highly unlikey for the reason stated, both have founders. It would be a waste of time to even attempt such an invasion.
imported_Uranium
02-10-2003, 20:39
After posting in getting help the other day I still have no answer from the mods. And he is still popping in and out of North America. Can I please get a responce from the mods on this.

Here is a copy of our most resent regional happenings.

4 hours ago: The Republic of Pilmour Ambassadors departed this region for Byzantium
4 hours ago: The Republic of Pilmour Ambassadors arrived from Byzantium.
5 hours ago: The Most Serene Republic of Jennifer Ann departed this region for The Ministry of Silly Walks
7 hours ago: The Most Serene Republic of Jennifer Ann arrived from The East Pacific.
10 hours ago: The Democratic States of SunriseAdams departed this region for The West Pacific
10 hours ago: The Democratic States of SunriseAdams arrived from The North Pacific.
11 hours ago: The Federation of --planets ceased to exist.
11 hours ago: The Kingdom of ChunkCheeseCake ceased to exist.
11 hours ago: The United Socialist States of Student Revolutions ceased to exist.
11 hours ago: The Dominion of Framingham ceased to exist.
imported_Uranium
02-10-2003, 20:49
Thank you to whichever moderator handled this for North America. We appriciate it very much.
Ackbar
03-10-2003, 05:29
After posting in getting help the other day I still have no answer from the mods. And he is still popping in and out of North America. Can I please get a responce from the mods on this.

Here is a copy of our most resent regional happenings.

4 hours ago: The Republic of Pilmour Ambassadors departed this region for Byzantium
4 hours ago: The Republic of Pilmour Ambassadors arrived from Byzantium.
5 hours ago: The Most Serene Republic of Jennifer Ann departed this region for The Ministry of Silly Walks
7 hours ago: The Most Serene Republic of Jennifer Ann arrived from The East Pacific.
10 hours ago: The Democratic States of SunriseAdams departed this region for The West Pacific
10 hours ago: The Democratic States of SunriseAdams arrived from The North Pacific.
11 hours ago: The Federation of --planets ceased to exist.
11 hours ago: The Kingdom of ChunkCheeseCake ceased to exist.
11 hours ago: The United Socialist States of Student Revolutions ceased to exist.
11 hours ago: The Dominion of Framingham ceased to exist.

I am taking no sides on this one, as of yet. But just to note-- you did not give proof of "spamming" the reginal happengs page. You showed him coming in and then leaving it. He is allowed to visit (unless there is something I missed about this one player), and is allowed to leave. He is simply not allowed to do this in a manner to clear your happenings.
The Blazing Halo
03-10-2003, 05:43
Uranium: what an absurd request! What specifically has Pilmour Ambassadors done? Where is the proof of his griefing/spamming? Your case is built on the fact that he entered your region ONCE in one day! Undue lobbying of mods will destroy this game.
imported_Uranium
03-10-2003, 14:39
you guys missed the fact that his main nation "Pilmour" has been banned from the region already. And we have repeadedly asked him not to come back into NA. But he comes and goes w/o giving us a chance to ban his "ambassador" nation.

But doesnt matter anymore, moderators have taken care of it.
Ackbar
03-10-2003, 17:21
you guys missed the fact that his main nation "Pilmour" has been banned from the region already. And we have repeadedly asked him not to come back into NA. But he comes and goes w/o giving us a chance to ban his "ambassador" nation.

But doesnt matter anymore, moderators have taken care of it.

Glad mods took care of it. Mods must have banned him from the region, because had the UN DEL banned him he would not have been able to come back in. Glad it worked out.
imported_Uranium
04-10-2003, 21:24
Here is a post from the nation that has continually come into North America. Also posted in "getting help"

119 minutes ago The Republic of Pilmour North Am Unit
Dear nations of North America:

We do not mean you harm. Really, we don't; however, the Republic has a vested interest in its own security and often, North American affairs have a lot to do with our own.

Our first incursion was related to the Roman Empire's invasion of Byzantium. We came to make sure that North America knew what exactly they were dealing with.

Our subsequent incursions came as a result of being bothered by nations on TMs.

If you want us to stay out, then we suggest you stop bothering us and make sure that you keep out of our affairs. Any time a North American nation telegrams us without a legitimate question or diplomatic message, and any time we discover that our affairs are being questioned/threatened by North American nations, we will enter. At our own will.

As for mods, good luck. We have just as much a right to be here as anyone else, and your continuous banning will not prevent us from entering and leaving as we please. Any comment or threat which stems from this message will be treated as an unwarranted response and will result in our re-entering this region.
Ackbar
05-10-2003, 07:02
Were the mods supposed to keep him out of the region?
imported_Uranium
05-10-2003, 13:40
yes they were, they banned his ambassador nation from North America. So he just went and made a new nation and proceeded right back into the region, He has now publicly mocked both ours and the moderaters attempts to keep him out.
07-10-2003, 12:39
Duh, hell recreate another nation to go there.
imported_Uranium
07-10-2003, 14:23
Once again Pilmour has sent another nation into North America, and once again he left so fast we were not able to ban him from the region.

98 minutes ago The Colony of Pilmours ambbassadors WTF why did you ban me?

97 minutes ago: The Colony of Pilmours ambbassadors departed this region for Atlantic
98 minutes ago: The Colony of Pilmours ambbassadors arrived from The Pacific.
5 hours ago: The Kingdom of Alizon arrived from The Rejected Realms.
11 hours ago: The Rogue Nation of -Satan- arrived from The Pacific.
13 hours ago: The Most Serene Republic of Izabor arrived from The West Pacific.
15 hours ago: The Confederacy of Dictator Sean departed this region for European Monarachs
16 hours ago: The Kingdom of Alizon departed this region for The Pacific
16 hours ago: The United States of Blue Seed ceased to exist.
22 hours ago: The Republic of Ssloo arrived from The South Pacific.
1 day ago: The Democratic Republic of Consitium ceased to exist.

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07-10-2003, 16:29
:lol: it's my puppet :lol: :wink:
Ballotonia
07-10-2003, 16:48
:lol: it's my puppet :lol: :wink:

IMHO, the only difference it makes in who created the puppet is who should receive the warning. Either way the puppet was created for the specific purpose of griefing a region. You seem to be enjoying it as well, which says a lot about you.

Ballotonia
07-10-2003, 16:49
Hey come on. Can't we smile a bit? You all seem so damn serious it's becomming annoying. :shock:
Ballotonia
07-10-2003, 16:52
Hey come on. Can't we smile a bit? You all seem so damn serious it's becomming annoying. :shock:

You failed to understand that to the people in North America, this is a serious problem.

Ballotonia
07-10-2003, 17:20
OK I won't be visiting them then :D
imported_Uranium
07-10-2003, 17:33
Yeah its real funny. We have banned 2 of his nations from the region and he comes back. We send more information to the mods nearly a week ago and dont get a responce from them, and now we have someone else deciding to make light of a situation we just want to end.

Go look at the NA board, you will see we have all had enough of it.
imported_Uranium
09-10-2003, 14:29
Once again Pilmour has come into North America and the mods have done nothing about it. Obviously the moderators do not care about greifing in this game.

32 minutes ago The Republic of Pilmour North Am Unit Sadly, as the region "Pilmour" is in lockdown, these attacks can't take place.
Shame.
Seconds ago The Holy Empire of Uranium Pilmour one again I must say you are not welcome in North America.
Tactical Grace
09-10-2003, 14:50
Once again Pilmour has come into North America and the mods have done nothing about it. Obviously the moderators do not care about greifing in this game.
Maybe they are a week behind in their task list, and this player is a fairly low-priority nuisance? Sometimes they can respond immediately, on those rare occasions when they are in the right place at the right time, but otherwise, it goes into a queue. They have several actual griefings to resolve, and then there is the usual spamming/flaming. Several days on, I am still unsure as to whether any action has been taken against the player who flamed a puppet of mine. So I would just wait. I am sure this would have been dealt with already had there been a more serious rule breach.