NationStates Jolt Archive


So why WAS White Britain deleted?

23-09-2003, 20:08
Still wondering...
Spoffin
23-09-2003, 20:56
Nazism. Mwhahaha
23-09-2003, 20:59
Probably because of your blatantly racist name.
23-09-2003, 21:12
Because people are sick of the General Forum Nazis posting plagarized BNP flyers.
23-09-2003, 21:17
Probably because of your blatantly racist name.

Excuse me? Blatantly racist name? Are you saying it's racist to use the word "white" now, then?
23-09-2003, 21:18
Because people are sick of the General Forum Nazis posting plagarized BNP flyers.

I hadn't been doing that, so I highly doubt that's the reason. Besides which, plenty of communists, liberals, etc, post political topics and don't get deleted for it.
23-09-2003, 21:20
Because people are sick of the General Forum Nazis posting plagarized BNP flyers.

I hadn't been doing that, so I highly doubt that's the reason. Besides which, plenty of communists, liberals, etc, post political topics and don't get deleted for it.

Because they actually type their own posts instead of posting lengthly passages copied directly from incredibly biased BNP pamphlets. Nor do the particular groups you mentioned advocate idiot ideas like racial supremacy. But that's neither here nor there. You weren't deleted for posting BNP bullshit (much as I wish people would be), I was just making a joke.
The SLAGLands
23-09-2003, 21:22
As I recall, White Britain was deleted for posting an offensive currency or animal after being warned once not to do so. I made the deletion, but I can't remember exactly which it was.
Spoffin
23-09-2003, 21:41
As I recall, White Britain was deleted for posting an offensive currency or animal after being warned once not to do so. I made the deletion, but I can't remember exactly which it was.
It was definately one of those two though?
The SLAGLands
23-09-2003, 21:44
As I recall, White Britain was deleted for posting an offensive currency or animal after being warned once not to do so. I made the deletion, but I can't remember exactly which it was.
It was definately one of those two though?

Quite sure. ;)
23-09-2003, 21:58
As I recall, White Britain was deleted for posting an offensive currency or animal after being warned once not to do so. I made the deletion, but I can't remember exactly which it was.

Now, this is where you're wrong.

I was warned about my currency, which was the "whitey" (which for some reason was deemed racist.) I was told not to change it back or my nation would be deleted.

I didn't change it back, I left it set to what you changed it to.

I never received any warning about my national animal.

Are you saying I was deleted for OBEYING your rules?
Goobergunchia
23-09-2003, 22:04
I was warned about my currency, which was the "whitey" (which for some reason was deemed racist.)

:roll:
Anadolu
23-09-2003, 22:14
Maybe you were advocating the sale of or trade in white humans. Ironic, your being banned for denigrating the so-called white race.

Also, though I wouldn't ban you for it, your name can easily be considered racist, as it suggests a need or desire for Britain to be racially pure. "White Britain" does not exist, and to write under that name seems to advocate the establishment of a white state. Surely you thought about it long enough to consider the possible perceptions of others.
23-09-2003, 22:33
Maybe you were advocating the sale of or trade in white humans. Ironic, your being banned for denigrating the so-called white race.

Also, though I wouldn't ban you for it, your name can easily be considered racist, as it suggests a need or desire for Britain to be racially pure. "White Britain" does not exist, and to write under that name seems to advocate the establishment of a white state. Surely you thought about it long enough to consider the possible perceptions of others.

White Britain doesn't exist? Hrrm.. perhaps the white population of Britain might have something to say about that? What about the black population, are you going to say "black Britain" doesn't exist either? What a strange concept.

When you get right down to it, what's happened is as I described above. They warned me about my currency. I obeyed them. They deleted my nation anyway.

Simple as that.

EDIT: By the way, since you seem to be on the subject of whether a nation exists or not should any bearing as to whether it should be allowed as a name, I feel bound to point out that, what... 99%??? of nations on this game don't exist in reality. :wink:
Tactical Grace
24-09-2003, 00:18
White Britain has clearly recognisable racist overtones. You may deny it if you wish, but everyone can see it. And if the Moderators can see it too, that is what matters.
24-09-2003, 01:41
So, what was your national animal then?
24-09-2003, 04:06
Probably because of your blatantly racist name.

How is the word "white" or "Britain" racist? Do you think someone would have gotten deleted if their name was Black Africa?
SuperHappyFun
24-09-2003, 04:08
White Britain has clearly recognisable racist overtones. You may deny it if you wish, but everyone can see it. And if the Moderators can see it too, that is what matters.

It does have racist overtones, but then again so does "Aryan Tribes." The name alone doesn't explain anything.
Neutered Sputniks
24-09-2003, 11:19
The fact that you were warned about using degenerative racial terms as a custom setting and yet continued to do so - whether you were warned about your national animal specifically or not, you were warned about using racial terms in your custom settings - along with your constant abuse of other players in General, and your national titles self-admitted "racist overtones" is plenty enough grounds for deletion.

Dont like it, go back to Stormfront. You create a nation here, you agree to play by the site rules. When you fail to do so, we remove that offending nation, which is the Mod/Admin's right to do as this is NOT your site, it's Max's site, and he has given us (the Mods) express power to assist in enforcing his rules.
24-09-2003, 19:32
White Britain has clearly recognisable racist overtones. You may deny it if you wish, but everyone can see it. And if the Moderators can see it too, that is what matters.

My nation name had nothing to do with why I was deleted, apparently..
24-09-2003, 19:46
The fact that you were warned about using degenerative racial terms as a custom setting and yet continued to do so - whether you were warned about your national animal specifically or not, you were warned about using racial terms in your custom settings - along with your constant abuse of other players in General, and your national titles self-admitted "racist overtones" is plenty enough grounds for deletion.

Dont like it, go back to Stormfront. You create a nation here, you agree to play by the site rules. When you fail to do so, we remove that offending nation, which is the Mod/Admin's right to do as this is NOT your site, it's Max's site, and he has given us (the Mods) express power to assist in enforcing his rules.

I've been playing by the site rules. I have no problem with playing by the rules whatsoever. Fine. By the way, I haven't admitted that my nation's name has racist overtones.. it's other people saying that, not me. Like Snubis said above, if someone came here calling themselves Black Africa would you say it had racist overtones? Of course not.

What are you talking about, though, "constant abuse of other players?" Who exactly have I abused then? Please point it out to me. The last couple of weeks I've been joining in the general chit-chat going on and that's basically it, very little political or racial stuff at all. Even when I do post on the political stuff I try to be reasonable and civil I(you will even see quite a few of the "antis" admitting this about me). On the rare occasions I've out-and-out flamed anyone it's been in response to a direct flame against me (like the moron who told me my five year-old daughter should be KILLED, for God's sake. I don't notice you deleting HIM.)

So to say that I constantly abuse other players is complete CRAP.. I know it and you know it.

On the other hand, you get people like Beeker who contribute basically NOTHING worthwhile to the forum, and post flame after flame after flame, get warned time and time again, and yet they are still here.

There is a strong stench of hypocrisy wafting around this place.
Neutered Sputniks
24-09-2003, 23:42
You think I dont know what goes on in the General forum? I might miss some of it, but on the whole I generally catch quite a bit of what goes on. There was a 2-3 week period where I watched who posted what, and when, and who flamed, or trolled, etc.
24-09-2003, 23:44
I've been playing by the site rules. I have no problem with playing by the rules whatsoever. Fine.

So, what was the national animal of White Britain then? Would you consider it to have been within the rules?

What are you talking about, though, "constant abuse of other players?" Who exactly have I abused then? Please point it out to me.

From the Stormfront regional board:

"4 hours ago
The Empire of New White Britain
That Singleterry bloke whoever he is has done a grand job of stirring those felchers up the last few days. I notice Beeker jumps straight into that thread above saying it's flamebait, then calls the poster stupid and tells them to shut up... and gets warned for flaming. Haaha. I can't believe Beeker still exists, to be honest.. all he ever does is flame and bait. Is it just me, or would anyone else REALLY love to give the twat a good kicking?"

Sufficient?
English Folk State
25-09-2003, 11:28
My, how thorough. Unfortunately that wasn't written on the forum so I don't really see how it's relevant.
25-09-2003, 13:08
My, how thorough. Unfortunately that wasn't written on the forum so I don't really see how it's relevant.

It was written on part of the NationStates website, not an offsite forum set up by your region. Therefore the rules and regulations regarding conduct on the site apply. Therefore it is relevant.
25-09-2003, 18:18
From the Stormfront regional board:

"4 hours ago
The Empire of New White Britain
That Singleterry bloke whoever he is has done a grand job of stirring those felchers up the last few days. I notice Beeker jumps straight into that thread above saying it's flamebait, then calls the poster stupid and tells them to shut up... and gets warned for flaming. Haaha. I can't believe Beeker still exists, to be honest.. all he ever does is flame and bait. Is it just me, or would anyone else REALLY love to give the twat a good kicking?"

Sufficient?

No. Just what the f**k are you trying to pull here, exactly? That was a message from my region's message board, NOT A PERSONAL FLAME ON THE OPEN FORUM.

It was a comment to my fellow nations in our region.

Now, then, if I had gone onto the general forum, and posted a message saying, "URGH! BEEKER I'M GONNA KICK YOUR HEAD IN" then you might have cause for complaint!

If I had sent Beeker a personal telegram going, "URGHHH BEEKER I HATE YOU I'M GONNA KICK YOU IN" then you might have cause for compaint!

However, to take a message from my nation's forum, and post it here totally out of context to what this discussion is about, it's complete BOLLOCKS and you know it.

It's called "Grasping at straws" mate.

I'm sure you've heard of the expression.
25-09-2003, 18:46
From the Stormfront regional board:

"4 hours ago
The Empire of New White Britain
That Singleterry bloke whoever he is has done a grand job of stirring those felchers up the last few days. I notice Beeker jumps straight into that thread above saying it's flamebait, then calls the poster stupid and tells them to shut up... and gets warned for flaming. Haaha. I can't believe Beeker still exists, to be honest.. all he ever does is flame and bait. Is it just me, or would anyone else REALLY love to give the twat a good kicking?"

Sufficient?

No. Just what the f**k are you trying to pull here, exactly? That was a message from my region's message board, NOT A PERSONAL FLAME ON THE OPEN FORUM.

It was a comment to my fellow nations in our region.

Now, then, if I had gone onto the general forum, and posted a message saying, "URGH! BEEKER I'M GONNA KICK YOUR HEAD IN" then you might have cause for complaint!

If I had sent Beeker a personal telegram going, "URGHHH BEEKER I HATE YOU I'M GONNA KICK YOU IN" then you might have cause for compaint!

However, to take a message from my nation's forum, and post it here totally out of context to what this discussion is about, it's complete BOLLOCKS and you know it.

It's called "Grasping at straws" mate.

I'm sure you've heard of the expression.


Word of warning kiddo, Start anything with Beeker, and you'll have me to contend with as well.
And I'm not the only one.
Take the hint and stick to the Jackboot forums.
26-09-2003, 02:38
Seeing as how you continue to protest that you were obeying the rules of NS when you were deleted and seem somewhat reticent to answer, I'll ask for the third time: what was White Britain's national animal?
26-09-2003, 20:20
Word of warning kiddo, Start anything with Beeker, and you'll have me to contend with as well.

Umm.. "wow."
26-09-2003, 20:23
Seeing as how you continue to protest that you were obeying the rules of NS when you were deleted and seem somewhat reticent to answer, I'll ask for the third time: what was White Britain's national animal?

Do you know what, it's so insignificant I can't even actually remember what it was. I set it when I first started playing weeks ago and then never even thought about it again. I think it was something stupid like the "golliwog."

Anyway... WB is deleted.. arguing about it isn't going to bring it back, so I shall just soldier on like a good little boy with my new nation. :P
Tactical Grace
26-09-2003, 20:29
I'll ask for the third time: what was White Britain's national animal?
I think it was something stupid like the "golliwog."
If that is what it was . . . "The Golliwog (originally spelled Golliwogg) is the least known of the major anti-Black caricatures in the United States."
Cogitation
26-09-2003, 21:01
On the rare occasions I've out-and-out flamed anyone it's been in response to a direct flame against me (like the moron who told me my five year-old daughter should be KILLED, for God's sake. I don't notice you deleting HIM.)

Was this on the NationStates forums? Hyperlink?

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
26-09-2003, 22:55
I'll ask for the third time: what was White Britain's national animal?
I think it was something stupid like the "golliwog."
If that is what it was . . . "The Golliwog (originally spelled Golliwogg) is the least known of the major anti-Black caricatures in the United States."

A golliwog is a kind of cuddly toy that was popular when I was a child.
Tactical Grace
26-09-2003, 23:01
A golliwog is a kind of cuddly toy that was popular when I was a child.
Yes, and a deeply offensive racial caricature.
26-09-2003, 23:08
From the Stormfront regional board:

"4 hours ago
The Empire of New White Britain
That Singleterry bloke whoever he is has done a grand job of stirring those felchers up the last few days. I notice Beeker jumps straight into that thread above saying it's flamebait, then calls the poster stupid and tells them to shut up... and gets warned for flaming. Haaha. I can't believe Beeker still exists, to be honest.. all he ever does is flame and bait. Is it just me, or would anyone else REALLY love to give the twat a good kicking?"

Sufficient?

No. Just what the f**k are you trying to pull here, exactly? That was a message from my region's message board, NOT A PERSONAL FLAME ON THE OPEN FORUM.

It was a comment to my fellow nations in our region.

Now, then, if I had gone onto the general forum, and posted a message saying, "URGH! BEEKER I'M GONNA KICK YOUR HEAD IN" then you might have cause for complaint!

If I had sent Beeker a personal telegram going, "URGHHH BEEKER I HATE YOU I'M GONNA KICK YOU IN" then you might have cause for compaint!

However, to take a message from my nation's forum, and post it here totally out of context to what this discussion is about, it's complete BOLLOCKS and you know it.

It's called "Grasping at straws" mate.

I'm sure you've heard of the expression.


Word of warning kiddo, Start anything with Beeker, and you'll have me to contend with as well.
And I'm not the only one.
Take the hint and stick to the Jackboot forums.
Interesting, a veiled threat, and clearly on the forum in full view too.
26-09-2003, 23:35
On the rare occasions I've out-and-out flamed anyone it's been in response to a direct flame against me (like the moron who told me my five year-old daughter should be KILLED, for God's sake. I don't notice you deleting HIM.)

Was this on the NationStates forums? Hyperlink?

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

Oh yes indeed.

"Your daughter should either be taken away from you and placed in a loving home, or failing that, she should be killed to avoid her growing up to be like you."

Here's where it started:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66713&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=240

If you read through more of the thread you'll see more of Xerath's nice comments about my daughter, such as:

"You are an appallingly bad father, and anything that stops your daughter turning out like you, even if it has to mean her death, will ultimately be a good thing."

He goes on at great length with lots more comments like this.

The reason for his outburst against a five year-old girl? He's one of those nice, tolerant "liberal" types who didn't agree with my political views.

Not once on this entire thread did this person even receive so much as a warning for flaming. He's still here, and my nation's deleted for having a stupid national animal.

Something wrong with this picture?
27-09-2003, 00:05
Seeing as how you continue to protest that you were obeying the rules of NS when you were deleted and seem somewhat reticent to answer, I'll ask for the third time: what was White Britain's national animal?

Do you know what, it's so insignificant I can't even actually remember what it was. I set it when I first started playing weeks ago and then never even thought about it again. I think it was something stupid like the "golliwog."

Anyway... WB is deleted.. arguing about it isn't going to bring it back, so I shall just soldier on like a good little boy with my new nation. :P

Sure that it wasn't "nignog"?
Neutered Sputniks
27-09-2003, 00:22
Interesting..


Quit with the flaming and trolling, or I'll make you quit. Fair enough?




As for the reasons for the deletion of White Britain, it's become obvious that you know what you did wrong, and are just trying to start something.
27-09-2003, 00:30
Interesting..


Quit with the flaming and trolling, or I'll make you quit. Fair enough?




As for the reasons for the deletion of White Britain, it's become obvious that you know what you did wrong, and are just trying to start something.

I'm not trying to start anything, I'm pointing out that you let people get away with a hell of a lot nastier stuff than I got deleted for, as proven above. I'm aware of what I got deleted for and that's fair enough.
27-09-2003, 00:46
Interesting..


Quit with the flaming and trolling, or I'll make you quit. Fair enough?.
And since you used the word "interesting". If you are referring to me at all then go ahead and delete the nation. It will keep me from coming back here to try to keep getting the last word. It's hard to stop arguing when things are obvious. A deletion would be a favor since I can't stop.
Neutered Sputniks
27-09-2003, 00:48
Interesting..


Quit with the flaming and trolling, or I'll make you quit. Fair enough?.
And since you used the word "interesting". If you are referring to me at all then go ahead and delete the nation. It will keep me from coming back here to try to keep getting the last word. It's hard to stop arguing when things are obvious. A deletion would be a favor since I can't stop.


Nah, that was just a general comment on the thread...not targeting anyone.
27-09-2003, 00:50
---Post deleted by NationStates Moderators---
Neutered Sputniks
27-09-2003, 01:43
I take it you feel the Evilly-Biased Power-Hungry National-Socialisticish Conservatively-Liberal DEAT-Happy Judge, Jury, and Executioning Moddom of Neutered Sputniks' player really gives $0.02 whether you accuse him of being a fascist? :roll:
Goobergunchia
27-09-2003, 04:03
I take it you feel the Evilly-Biased Power-Hungry National-Socialisticish Conservatively-Liberal DEAT-Happy Judge, Jury, and Executioning Moddom of Neutered Sputniks' player really gives $0.02 whether you accuse him of being a fascist? :roll:

And of course you know what his motto is... ;-)

"I AM the LAW!!!!!!!!"
27-09-2003, 04:48
From the Stormfront regional board:

"4 hours ago
The Empire of New White Britain
That Singleterry bloke whoever he is has done a grand job of stirring those felchers up the last few days. I notice Beeker jumps straight into that thread above saying it's flamebait, then calls the poster stupid and tells them to shut up... and gets warned for flaming. Haaha. I can't believe Beeker still exists, to be honest.. all he ever does is flame and bait. Is it just me, or would anyone else REALLY love to give the twat a good kicking?"

Sufficient?

No. Just what the f**k are you trying to pull here, exactly? That was a message from my region's message board, NOT A PERSONAL FLAME ON THE OPEN FORUM.

It was a comment to my fellow nations in our region.

Now, then, if I had gone onto the general forum, and posted a message saying, "URGH! BEEKER I'M GONNA KICK YOUR HEAD IN" then you might have cause for complaint!

If I had sent Beeker a personal telegram going, "URGHHH BEEKER I HATE YOU I'M GONNA KICK YOU IN" then you might have cause for compaint!

However, to take a message from my nation's forum, and post it here totally out of context to what this discussion is about, it's complete BOLLOCKS and you know it.

It's called "Grasping at straws" mate.

I'm sure you've heard of the expression.


Word of warning kiddo, Start anything with Beeker, and you'll have me to contend with as well.
And I'm not the only one.
Take the hint and stick to the Jackboot forums.
Interesting, a veiled threat, and clearly on the forum in full view too.

Yes it is.
I don't care,
and saying that your going to kick my mates head in tends to get that reaction.
27-09-2003, 10:35
Yes it is.
I don't care,
and saying that your going to kick my mates head in tends to get that reaction.

Best read the whole message again. I didn't say I was going to kick anyone's head in.

See, this is the kind of thing that happens when some loon comes along, cuts a comment from my nation's (relatively) private message board, and posts it here as an example of my behaviour in the public forums.

It's out of context, it's misleading, and it's pure bollox.
27-09-2003, 10:39
Yes it is.
I don't care,
and saying that your going to kick my mates head in tends to get that reaction.

Best read the whole message again. I didn't say I was going to kick anyone's head in.

See, this is the kind of thing that happens when some loon comes along, cuts a comment from my nation's (relatively) private message board, and posts it here as an example of my behaviour in the public forums.

It's out of context, it's misleading, and it's pure bollox.

Look, I see your nations name, your on Stormfront = I don't like you.
So I don't really care if its out of context or not, if your going to post something on the internet, have the balls to stand by it.
*and yes, I saw what you posted*
27-09-2003, 10:51
Look, I see your nations name, your on Stormfront = I don't like you.

Wow. How open minded and tolerant of you.

I don't really care if its out of context or not, if your going to post something on the internet, have the balls to stand by it.
*and yes, I saw what you posted*

Oh, I stand by it! I did say I would LIKE to give him a kicking.

I didn't say I was GOING to.

That's the difference. I'm sure you meet people in day to day life who annoy you, and you idly think to yourself, "Bah I'd love to slap this bloke." That doesn't mean you push them up against a wall and actually start doing it.