NationStates Jolt Archive


Question Regarding Inappropriate Proposals.

Qaaolchoura
23-09-2003, 03:19
When proposals have distinctly Orrwellian names, or have a description different from the title (examples below), does that count as an inappropriate proposal?

Examples:
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Xexan Enviroment Law

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental Industry Affected: All Businesses Proposed by: Xexo

Description: No country shall make a law preventing the advancement of society in order to protect a species.
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The Right To Arms

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights Strength: Significant Proposed by: The New Russian Czar

Description: It is the basic right of every person to have a fire arm,it gives everyone a way to defend themselfs.However,it must a law that to have a fire arm there must be a backround check,and the person should be watched carefully and put on a government file.As the Tsar of a crime free nation,you can take it from me.

~Ivan,Tsar of All Russia
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Maximum Tax Rate

A resolution to reduce income ine
quality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice Strength: Strong Proposed by: TakeDownMalkelehRebels Description:
For all UN Members:

1. We, the peoples of the world declare
that there is an absolute maximum value
of taxation, beyond which a governing body
must be declared to be in breach of proper
and sensible social justice.

2. A government taxing its public more than
50% is considered to be engaged in criminal
social activity, for no government can claim
to be concerned for the good of its people
if it imposes such an impossible level of
taxation on them.

3. Thus, we hereby condemn all governments that
choose to tax its people more than 50%, and request
in the strongest of terms that they re-consider
their choice.
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POW's

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security Strength: Significant Proposed by: Sinsion Description: Why should I have to spend my countries dollars on other nations troops if they are attacking my nation and the surrender we should be allowed to treat them as we wish. In past wars the enemy in a non un state has treated my troops like dogs and almost caused us to lose the war. I sujest we be able to treat their troops they way they treat ours with absoululty no respect.
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For those oblivious to irony, the first descriptor claims that it is pro-environment, but in fact makes most environmental protections illegal, the second is put under civil rights instead of gun control, the third claims to reduce income inequality, while in fact setting a maximum taxt rate.

The fourth is more debateable, but I still think that it belongs under "moral decency", as this would in fact save some military costs.
Goobergunchia
23-09-2003, 03:30
I think it does, but it's not that strictly enforced if it's the wrong category.
Qaaolchoura
23-09-2003, 03:41
But what about the Orwellian ones like the one at the top of the list and United Irish Peoples (now expired) "Ban Same Sex Marrige", described as "A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights."?
Goobergunchia
23-09-2003, 03:48
But what about the Orwellian ones like the one at the top of the list and United Irish Peoples (now expired) "Ban Same Sex Marrige", described as "A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights."?

I think those should be DEATed. But you'd really have to ask Enodia...he's the mod that usually goes through the UN list.
Qaaolchoura
23-09-2003, 03:56
So I'll hafta bump this when hes's on the forum then.
Goobergunchia
23-09-2003, 04:21
While we're on the subject...

Czargod IV Ascension

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability Strength: Strong Proposed by: Evilistocia

Description: Czargod IV of Evilistocia shall be given absolute, immediate and total temporary control of the Pacific Region. This is in response to agression inside Evilistocia by other Pacific Region nations. Control will be relinquished by the Delegate to Czargod IV until the region is once again safe for democracy.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 120 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Thu Sep 25 2003

The Republic of Goobergunchia has not approved this proposal. [Approve]
Fyreheart
23-09-2003, 04:28
While we're on the subject...

Czargod IV Ascension

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability Strength: Strong Proposed by: Evilistocia

Description: Czargod IV of Evilistocia shall be given absolute, immediate and total temporary control of the Pacific Region. This is in response to agression inside Evilistocia by other Pacific Region nations. Control will be relinquished by the Delegate to Czargod IV until the region is once again safe for democracy.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 120 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Thu Sep 25 2003

The Republic of Goobergunchia has not approved this proposal. [Approve]

Now that is just a waste of NS server space...
Qaaolchoura
23-09-2003, 04:45
While we're on the subject...

Czargod IV Ascension

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.

Category: Political Stability Strength: Strong Proposed by: Evilistocia

Description: Czargod IV of Evilistocia shall be given absolute, immediate and total temporary control of the Pacific Region. This is in response to agression inside Evilistocia by other Pacific Region nations. Control will be relinquished by the Delegate to Czargod IV until the region is once again safe for democracy.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 120 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Thu Sep 25 2003

The Republic of Goobergunchia has not approved this proposal. [Approve]

Now that is just a waste of NS server space...

True.

I didn't actually bother reporting that one though, because I was too ticked off at seeing proposals who's descriptions did not match the descriptors.

Edit: Have you reported it already, or shall I? (I'd rather not, as I've already sent two rather significant requests within the last week.)
23-09-2003, 09:37
I'm about to prune the proposal list again (turning into a daily job these days). The short answer to why some of them last longer when they're just "in the wrong category" is that quite often you need to think about them before the little light comes on saying "wrong category". Offensive proposals and game mechanics tend to be easier to pick.