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Should SpoffinIsaNazi be deleted?

21-09-2003, 03:51
I don't want to seem like some sort of witch-hunter here, but that nation seems to have been created for the sole purpose of flaming particular posters on the forum...
Naleth
21-09-2003, 04:00
Yes, probably should. All I've seen from his is one personal attack after another. And maybe the mods could tell us whos puppet he is (was?)?
21-09-2003, 04:02
Yes, probably should. All I've seen from his is one personal attack after another. And maybe the mods could tell us whos puppet he is (was?)?

Thank you...but do the mods have any opinion on this? With the recent deletion of Satan, this "SpoffinIsaNazi" shtick seems a bit worse in comparison.
21-09-2003, 04:20
My parent nation is Twiehausen.
21-09-2003, 04:23
My parent nation is Twiehausen.

I KNEW IT! ONLY A DIRTY NO-GOOD ROTTEN....oh. Well please stop with the flaming and spamming.
21-09-2003, 04:36
Yes, because I've broken your oppressive rules aimed at preventing any opposition to the communist drone machine, I should be deleted.
21-09-2003, 04:42
Yes, because I've broken your oppressive rules aimed at preventing any opposition to the communist drone machine, I should be deleted.

Hmm...not my rules.
21-09-2003, 04:43
No, but you choose to enforce them for whatever unconceivable reason. Therefore you must agree with them.
Eridanus
21-09-2003, 04:44
Yes. He who fuck with Spoffin, soon be fucked up.

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-President Z.D. Meier
Alliance of Democracy
U.N. Delegate

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21-09-2003, 04:47
Maybe. It's been a few hours...
21-09-2003, 04:53
No, but you choose to enforce them for whatever unconceivable reason. Therefore you must agree with them.

Why shouldn't I agree with them. I'm pretty sure that by using this site, I have to agree to their Terms and Conditions.
21-09-2003, 04:58
Yes, under their terms you agree that *you* will follow their rules. Not that you'll report others who don't. If you can find a part of it that says that I'll have a heart attack.
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 05:03
Yes, under their terms you agree that *you* will follow their rules. Not that you'll report others who don't. If you can find a part of it that says that I'll have a heart attack.
Well, I reported you because I felt like it. I do not need a rule to tell me to do that.
Neutered Sputniks
21-09-2003, 05:04
So if a burglar was breaking into your house you wouldnt report them to the police because 'no where in the Terms and Conditions of living in that neighborhood does it say that you have to?

What about if it was your neighbor's house?
Naleth
21-09-2003, 05:04
You have also agreed to follow these rules. Assuming you have, there shold be no reason to report you and also no real threat of action even if someone does for some reason. The only reason you have anything to worry about a mod report is if you actually have been saying things that are "obscene, illegal, threatening, malicious, or defamatory...or that constitutes 'spam.'" (Terms of Use)
21-09-2003, 05:05
So if a burglar was breaking into your house you wouldnt report them to the police because 'no where in the Terms and Conditions of living in that neighborhood does it say that you have to?

What about if it was your neighbor's house?

No, I'd take out my gun and shoot the burglar if they entered my house.

If they entered my neighbor's house, I am NOT legally required to report it. Where I live, anyways.
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 05:06
You have also agreed to follow these rules. The only reason you have anything to worry about . . . is if you actually have been saying things that are "obscene, illegal, threatening, malicious, or defamatory...or that constitutes 'spam.'" (Terms of Use)
Clocked. :lol:
Naleth
21-09-2003, 05:07
So if a burglar was breaking into your house you wouldnt report them to the police because 'no where in the Terms and Conditions of living in that neighborhood does it say that you have to?

What about if it was your neighbor's house?

No, I'd take out my gun and shoot the burglar if they entered my house.

If they entered my neighbor's house, I am NOT legally required to report it. Where I live, anyways.
But the question was "would you?" not "do you have to?"
Neutered Sputniks
21-09-2003, 05:07
No, I'd take out my gun and shoot the burglar if they entered my house.

If they entered my neighbor's house, I am NOT legally required to report it. Where I live, anyways.

I didnt ask if you were legally required to report it. I asked if you would.

What if you didnt have a gun?
21-09-2003, 05:09
No, I'd take out my gun and shoot the burglar if they entered my house.

If they entered my neighbor's house, I am NOT legally required to report it. Where I live, anyways.

I didnt ask if you were legally required to report it. I asked if you would.

What if you didnt have a gun?

These are actually good questions.

If I didn't have a gun, chances are I'd get a bat.

And I might report it. It depends on which neighbor it is happening to :twisted:
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 05:14
So, is he being deleted or not?
21-09-2003, 05:23
Apparently not...

The poor commie is going to have a fit since he can't censor speech that disagrees with him :roll:
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 05:33
Whose puppet are you? You claim to be Twiehausen, but you sound like Christofi.
Qaaolchoura
21-09-2003, 05:43
My parent nation is Twiehausen.

I KNEW IT! ONLY A DIRTY NO-GOOD ROTTEN....oh. Well please stop with the flaming and spamming.
Actually this tells us that SpoffinisaNazi is almost definately not Twiehausen.
Qaaolchoura
21-09-2003, 05:45
Whose puppet are you? You claim to be Twiehausen, but you sound like Christofi.
Fantasan, Christofi, and Marathons Ghost all sound(ed) very similar to me.
21-09-2003, 05:49
My parent nation is Twiehausen.

I KNEW IT! ONLY A DIRTY NO-GOOD ROTTEN....oh. Well please stop with the flaming and spamming.
Actually this tells us that SpoffinisaNazi is almost definately not Twiehausen.

Well, it tells *you* that. But you're welcome to think what you wish - *I* won't deny you your right to your opinion. Tactical Grace and other leftists might though.
Qaaolchoura
21-09-2003, 05:53
Well, it tells *you* that. But you're welcome to think what you wish - *I* won't deny you your right to your opinion. Tactical Grace and other leftists might though.
What made you think that I am not a leftist (which I am)?
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 05:56
Me? A "leftist"? Hardly, as anyone who knows me in real life will attest. I would say I am more of a pragmatic sort. That is the sort of person who truly runs the world. Not your absurd communist conspiracies.
Qaaolchoura
21-09-2003, 06:00
Whereas I on the other hand am considered by Marxists to be not quite a lost cause.

Edit: On revision I should clarify. I am a staunch Naderite, and too "moderate"("moderate" being a respective term) for the Marxists, but a hot headed radical to many citizens of Amherst, but the Marxists feel that they can sway me.
21-09-2003, 06:20
Whereas I on the other hand am considered by Marxists to be not quite a lost cause.

Edit: On revision I should clarify. I am a staunch Naderite, and too "moderate"("moderate" being a respective term) for the Marxists, but a hot headed radical to many citizens of Amherst, but the Marxists feel that they can sway me.


Congratulations on resisting complete and total brainwashing. You are only partially brainwashed. Now all you have to do is find a good psychiatrist - wait, I forgot that profession is already dominated by the Reds! So you are indeed a lost cause, unless you choose to change your ways. In the end, that's your decision and I won't try to stop you, but your ideals would lead only to despotism and slavery.
Qaaolchoura
21-09-2003, 06:27
Let Me attempt to rephase again.

I aam a radical, but the marxists disagree.

I have never read Marx, Engles, Lennin, or Trotsky, not do I intend to.

I an a Naderite who the Marxists try to sway.

I usually end up getting into a vocal argument with them.

I am green, they are red.
21-09-2003, 06:35
Well, I don't see you as a threat from what you've said. I kind of respect the greens after what I heard about them during the Russian Revolution. I assume they are the same ones you speak of. But actions speak louder than words.
Spoffin
21-09-2003, 15:56
Apparently not...

The poor commie is going to have a fit since he can't censor speech that disagrees with him :roll:
Far from having a fit or crying, I'm just laughing my goddamn arse off!!
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 16:19
Far from having a fit or crying, I'm just laughing my goddamn arse off!!
Yes, it is rather amusing, isn't it?

It never ceases to amaze me how fanatical the far right is in their denouncement of liberal views. It is almost as though they have something to prove. Their bashing only serves as an acknowledgement of the ascendancy of the liberal position.
Spoffin
21-09-2003, 16:21
Far from having a fit or crying, I'm just laughing my goddamn arse off!!
Yes, it is rather amusing, isn't it?

It never ceases to amaze me how fanatical the far right is in their denouncement of liberal views. It is almost as though they have something to prove. Their bashing only serves as an acknowledgement of the ascendancy of the liberal position.

Exactly. Its when I see the methods of the people I'm up against that I'm most sure that I'm right.
21-09-2003, 21:28
Yes, under their terms you agree that *you* will follow their rules. Not that you'll report others who don't. If you can find a part of it that says that I'll have a heart attack.

I applaud SpoffinIsaNazi for taking a stand against snitchery!
NuMetal
21-09-2003, 21:32
Yes he should
Spoffin
21-09-2003, 21:35
Fuck it.

I'm bored with this now.

Delete him.

A nation designed only to flame and bait me should not have lasted a minute, let alone a day.
21-09-2003, 22:19
I think this is a case of "reaping what you sow."
Spoffin
21-09-2003, 22:22
I think this is a case of "reaping what you sow."
You feel like explaining that one Lucian?
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 22:28
I think this is some sad individual's revenge for you making a fool of him/her, Spoffin. This is why I rarely post in those people's flame threads, not only is it a waste of time because they are incapable of learning, but it can also result in flaming of a more personal sort. I would just ignore the whole thing if I were you, they have had their cheap laughs and will get bored soon.
Spoffin
21-09-2003, 22:31
We already have one topic about SpoffinIsaNazi. iLock.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation


Thanks, it was a bit confusing trying to flip between both of them.

Do you have an opinion on this situation?
Spoffin
21-09-2003, 22:32
I think this is some sad individual's revenge for you making a fool of him/her, Spoffin. This is why I rarely post in those people's flame threads, not only is it a waste of time because they are incapable of learning, but it can also result in flaming of a more personal sort. I would just ignore the whole thing if I were you, they have had their cheap laughs and will get bored soon.
I have heard otherwise though. I want to find out who this is, and, ideally, find out thats its not who I've heard it to be.
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 22:42
I want to find out who this is, and, ideally, find out thats its not who I've heard it to be.
I cannot imagine why that would be important. It is just a detail.
21-09-2003, 22:45
I think this is a case of "reaping what you sow."
You feel like explaining that one Lucian?

It's pretty simple. Your past actions have brought criticism. Now, deal with it like a man.
Spoffin
21-09-2003, 22:46
I want to find out who this is, and, ideally, find out thats its not who I've heard it to be.
I cannot imagine why that would be important. It is just a detail.
I'd like to punish them. *grins evilly*
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 22:48
I'd like to punish them. *grins evilly*
Just make sure you stay well within the rules.
Brittanic States
21-09-2003, 22:52
I want to find out who this is, and, ideally, find out thats its not who I've heard it to be.
I cannot imagine why that would be important. It is just a detail.
I'd like to punish them. *grins evilly*

does making a secret deal via telegram with the global market to have spoffinisanazi expelled from libertarian paradise come within your classification of punishment Spoffin?
Spoffin
21-09-2003, 22:56
I think this is a case of "reaping what you sow."
You feel like explaining that one Lucian?

It's pretty simple. Your past actions have brought criticism. Now, deal with it like a man.
I can understand why you feel so ill-disposed towards me Beelzebubbles, but you've denyed that you have a hand (so to speak) in this affair.
Spoffin
21-09-2003, 22:59
I want to find out who this is, and, ideally, find out thats its not who I've heard it to be.
I cannot imagine why that would be important. It is just a detail.
I'd like to punish them. *grins evilly*

does making a secret deal via telegram with the global market to have spoffinisanazi expelled from libertarian paradise come within your classification of punishment Spoffin?
Yes
Eridanus
21-09-2003, 23:05
My patience wears thin with this SpoffinIsaNazi guy/gal. First he claims to be Tweihausen, then me (Eridanus) then god knows who. He/she needs to go, if you let him/her stay it will be favoitism, I've seen nations like this get deleted in less than 30 minutes, this ones been here for about 2 days.

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-President Z.D. Meier
Alliance of Democracy
U.N. Delegate

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Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 23:09
does making a secret deal via telegram with the global market to have spoffinisanazi expelled from libertarian paradise come within your classification of punishment Spoffin?
:shock: Smooth.

EDIT: By the way, that thing is taken care of, check your Telegrams.
Spoffin
21-09-2003, 23:10
does making a secret deal via telegram with the global market to have spoffinisanazi expelled from libertarian paradise come within your classification of punishment Spoffin?
:shock: Smooth.
It may be worth mentioning that TGM offered it to me, I didn't solicit any favours
Spoffin
22-09-2003, 00:48
Thanks TG
Qaaolchoura
22-09-2003, 02:45
My patience wears thin with this SpoffinIsaNazi guy/gal. First he claims to be Tweihausen, then me (Eridanus) then god knows who. He/she needs to go, if you let him/her stay it will be favoitism, I've seen nations like this get deleted in less than 30 minutes, this ones been here for about 2 days.

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-President Z.D. Meier
Alliance of Democracy
U.N. Delegate

<- pic that everybody except Eridanus hates removed->

He hasn't been any worse than Marathons Ghost, and he's still around.

30 minutes?

White Hope lasted for almost an hour, and that is the shortest lifespan I've seen.

Who were the ones whom you were thinking of?
Tactical Grace
22-09-2003, 02:49
The Most Dishonourable Hack lasted only minutes. His first and final act was starting a thread in General titled "The Spamming of the Hack". The real Hack was online at the time and toasted him. This was two months ago, maybe.
22-09-2003, 02:52
The Most Dishonourable Hack lasted only minutes. His first and final act was starting a thread in General titled "The Spamming of the Hack". The real Hack was online at the time and toasted him. This was two months ago, maybe.

Oh yes! :D I remember that one! Haven't there been others who got themselves deleted, came back shortly after just to get themselves deleted more or less immediately again?
Tactical Grace
22-09-2003, 02:54
Yes, there was some guy who was comically naive about what constitutes a banned word when it comes to naming a nation.
Spoffin
22-09-2003, 16:12
So who was SIAN?
Brittanic States
22-09-2003, 16:23
So who was SIAN?
you may want to check the Libertarian Paradise message board
Spoffin
22-09-2003, 16:42
I already did, about half an hour ago.
Brittanic States
22-09-2003, 16:58
I want to find out who this is, and, ideally, find out thats its not who I've heard it to be.
I cannot imagine why that would be important. It is just a detail.
I'd like to punish them. *grins evilly*

does making a secret deal via telegram with the global market to have spoffinisanazi expelled from libertarian paradise come within your classification of punishment Spoffin?
Yes
:wink:
Brittanic States
22-09-2003, 16:59
does making a secret deal via telegram with the global market to have spoffinisanazi expelled from libertarian paradise come within your classification of punishment Spoffin?
:shock: Smooth.
It may be worth mentioning that TGM offered it to me, I didn't solicit any favours
:wink:
Spoffin
22-09-2003, 17:30
You gotta little twitch there B.S?
22-09-2003, 18:24
My parent nation is Twiehausen.

Nope, not me.

I am not sure why he said that.
Chikyota
22-09-2003, 18:47
My parent nation is Twiehausen.
Nope, not me.
I am not sure why he said that. Likely it was to incriminate you. Thankfully it did not work.
22-09-2003, 20:34
I think this is a case of "reaping what you sow."
You feel like explaining that one Lucian?

It's pretty simple. Your past actions have brought criticism. Now, deal with it like a man.
I can understand why you feel so ill-disposed towards me Beelzebubbles, but you've denyed that you have a hand (so to speak) in this affair.

I had nothing to do with the creation of SpoffinIsANazi. Don't you think it's possible that others may also have been appalled by your actions?
Spoffin
22-09-2003, 21:32
I think this is a case of "reaping what you sow."
You feel like explaining that one Lucian?

It's pretty simple. Your past actions have brought criticism. Now, deal with it like a man.
I can understand why you feel so ill-disposed towards me Beelzebubbles, but you've denyed that you have a hand (so to speak) in this affair.

I had nothing to do with the creation of SpoffinIsANazi. Don't you think it's possible that others may also have been appalled by your actions?
Appalled by... which actions?
Tactical Grace
22-09-2003, 21:33
Appalled by... which actions?
Daring to argue with them, and even worse, being seen to be winning. :lol:
Spoffin
22-09-2003, 22:02
Appalled by... which actions?
Daring to argue with them, and even worse, being seen to be winning. :lol:

God, I'm such a bastard. :D
Eridanus
23-09-2003, 01:04
My patience wears thin with this SpoffinIsaNazi guy/gal. First he claims to be Tweihausen, then me (Eridanus) then god knows who. He/she needs to go, if you let him/her stay it will be favoitism, I've seen nations like this get deleted in less than 30 minutes, this ones been here for about 2 days.

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-President Z.D. Meier
Alliance of Democracy
U.N. Delegate

<- pic that everybody except Eridanus hates removed->

He hasn't been any worse than Marathons Ghost, and he's still around.

30 minutes?

White Hope lasted for almost an hour, and that is the shortest lifespan I've seen.

Who were the ones whom you were thinking of?

First of all, what you said about my pic was out of line and I would appreciate it if you just kept that to yourself or a thread made for that purpose. Second of all the nation I referred to was actually two nations of which I can't remember the name, they were deleted for excesive flming mostlly of the French and communists.

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-President Z.D. Meier
Alliance of Democracy
U.N. Delegate

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Goobergunchia
23-09-2003, 01:57
The Most Dishonourable Hack lasted only minutes. His first and final act was starting a thread in General titled "The Spamming of the Hack". The real Hack was online at the time and toasted him. This was two months ago, maybe.

*confused*

Isn't Hack a Forum Mod?
Tactical Grace
23-09-2003, 02:00
Hmm, maybe he didn't do it personally. I only saw him in General, locking the topic the minute it was created, and a few minutes later, the offending nation was an ex-nation.
NuMetal
23-09-2003, 02:04
Whats this topic about now that spoffinisanazi is deat?
Qaaolchoura
23-09-2003, 02:18
First of all, what you said about my pic was out of line and I would appreciate it if you just kept that to yourself or a thread made for that purpose.
Everybody I've talked too is either annoyed by it, scared, of it, or disgusted by it (I fall into that one). I just used "hate" as a general grouping. "Dislike" would have been better.

You seriously want me to make a thread called something like "What is Your Opinion of Eridanus's Signature Picture?"

Or are you just hoping that I get deleted for creating flamebait threads?

Maybe, if you just whitened the teeth. . .
NuMetal
23-09-2003, 02:20
I dont really care much about the pic,its just a siggy
Qaaolchoura
23-09-2003, 03:03
I dont really care much about the pic,its just a siggy
I've gotten used to it myself.

I was pointing out that it is definately unpleasant to many people the first dozen times.

I seem to recall that he used to have a different siggy that I liked better.