NationStates Jolt Archive


delegate ejecting people baselessly

21-09-2003, 01:50
I am just wondering if the doings of Fasci di Gierra in 000 are legal. He has ejected many nations without a good reason - he claimed that they were attacking the region. He has no bases to this claim. In fact I think he is attacking the region. He also put up a password and isn't giving it to natives. can the mods do something about this?

I would like him to be ejected from the region. Also, I am worried that he will eject me very soon as I have spoken harshly against him on the regional boards.

thanks,
imported_Cspalla
21-09-2003, 01:54
Thats been a recent mess. but do know the general rule is that if he is a native delgate he may do as he pleases, if not, thatwould be griefing.
Garrison II
21-09-2003, 01:54
Join the Club he ejected 5 of us in the morning.... Me being one of them, don't worry Cogation will close the topic.
Garrison II
21-09-2003, 01:56
Thats been a recent mess. but do know the general rule is that if he is a native delgate he may do as he pleases, if not, thatwould be griefing.
He's not the native delegate.... I was until we got spammed and the invaders sliped in.
imported_Cspalla
21-09-2003, 01:58
Thats what I thought..actually I rember being the only one to post on that topic of yours (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70268&highlight=) when you snached it up. Good luck with that.
Esamopia
21-09-2003, 02:02
Ha... that's hilarious. I guess the best way to combat it is either through endorsing another candidate (if you're still in) or setting up a new region, at least temporarily, for all the people who got kicked out until you can sort all this out.

You are bound to lose some people in all of this, but do not despair! Your region's greatness will one day be restored.
Garrison II
21-09-2003, 02:03
Yeah, if anyone withdraws an endorsement from him or gets within a small amount their ejected...
21-09-2003, 02:04
Fist of all=I am a native. The only difference is that I kept my mouth shut because previous delegates used to eject people thet were "possibly" a threat to their "democratically elected" position (the ban list had at least 30 persons :roll: ).

Also, I did telegram the other natives to come back. They just had too much endorsements, I felt free ejecting them. They can come back, but if they seem to be a threat I will eject them and allow then enter the region after they loose their endorsements.

Deaths Playthings is not allowed to enter because he is annoying and is not a native. Nor will be granted access his lousy 5 million states.
imported_Cspalla
21-09-2003, 02:06
Now I know that deaths plaything was a native. Your status I do not know, but his I am sure of. Just look at that URL I put up.

-Cspalla
Totally Unoffical NationStates Guy
Garrison II
21-09-2003, 02:09
Fist of all=I am a native. The only difference is that I kept my mouth shut because previous delegates used to eject people thet were "possibly" a threat to their "democratically elected" position (the ban list had at least 30 persons :roll: ).

Also, I did telegram the other natives to come back. They just had too much endorsements, I felt free ejecting them. They can come back, but if they seem to be a threat I will eject them and allow then enter the region after they loose their endorsements.

Deaths Playthings is not allowed to enter because he is annoying and is not a native. Nor will be granted access his lousy 5 million states.
Your trying to get me to flame you, thats not gonna happen the ban list didn't have 30 people it had 6. Your ejecting people for withdrawing endorsements from you thats very " :roll: democratic". :roll:
21-09-2003, 02:12
Totally Unoffical NationStates Guy

Why would I listen an unofficial guy?

We all agree in 000 that Garrison must be out. he called in about 10 nations-invaders to the region to endorse him. He is an invader.

Therefore, make as much posts you want, but we shall not listen to your concerns. Natives will come back, not you.
21-09-2003, 02:12
Flame me as hard as you can 8)
Garrison II
21-09-2003, 02:13
I'm not gonna flame you.....Those people where supporting me after you and your Air Strip One buddies spammed our regional happenings and slipped in. How could I be invading if I already was the delegate. Ask Arabian Dark, Evisian, or Akbar I am a native. Ask Rebbeciana, ask anyone. I've been their longer than any of you.
Garrison II
21-09-2003, 02:15
Besides you only got as delegate because of a bug in the system, Alty had 17 endorsements, I had 15 and you had 14 endorsements, and you became delegate. The endorsements never changed and you became delegate.
Garrison II
21-09-2003, 02:19
Will one of the mods please give us an answer, how did he become delegate, the amount of endorsements stayed the same...
21-09-2003, 02:35
Those people where supporting me after you and your Air Strip One buddies spammed our regional happenings and slipped in. How could I be invading if I already was the delegate. Ask Arabian Dark, Evisian, or Akbar I am a native. Ask Rebbeciana, ask anyone. I've been their longer than any of you.

1) I have no affiliation with Air Strip One.

2) You was not the delegate yesterday evening -6:00 GMT.

3) Do you have any proof that you were longer than me? I was in this region over 3 months. I think that 3 months makes you a native.

Besides you only got as delegate because of a bug in the system,

Blame the system 8) :lol: Like in politics.
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 02:36
Maybe 000 has been a battleground since the beginning of time. Looks like the latest ruler is not exactly known for his benevolence. Not much to be done about it since the battle has been lost. It was a sh*t thing to do, but by some (possibly a game bug) fluke he won. I would suggest that if the nations within 000 do not like the situation, they register their displeasure together with any information they can provide through the Getting Help page, and then leave the region. It is unlikely that the good guys will win here, and it may be best to do the last of what can be done and declare it a lost cause with dignity.
21-09-2003, 02:36
That particular nation was never in the region, so it doesn't apply :roll:
Rantchess
21-09-2003, 02:40
fasci, you come to france reccently ?
for help a take over on it?
21-09-2003, 02:45
I didn't realize that he got in because of a stupid game bug. that is so annoying. this is pathetic. I think that the mods should fix what happened by putting alty back into power.
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 02:58
The Moderators are probably investigating it, I am sure someone has e-mailed the Admin by now, but if there is no record of an error, then they will not do anything. "We saw nothing, our hands are tied", etc, the Pacific all over again. It's unfair, but it happens.
21-09-2003, 03:11
did anyone send an email = I didn't
Tactical Grace
21-09-2003, 03:17
I think one of the major nations to be ejected from 000 would have done by now. I think it is admin@nationstates.net. Best leave it to those who saw everything.
21-09-2003, 03:30
We were screwed by the system lol
New Java Scotia
21-09-2003, 07:14
Hello.

As I'm sure you are aware by now, 000 has been invaded. I am not a native of 000, actually. About a week ago, my home region received some information that led us to believe that the notorious region-crashers, The Bing and Air Strip One, were considering either our region, or our ally's, as targets for an invasion. I immediately began investigating.

My investigations led me to discover that neither my region, or my ally's region were the targets. In fact, 000 was. I went to check on 000 just in time to see the invasion begin. The nation MoonSun, a puppet of INGS0C, head of Air Strip One, had slipped in, and a friend or puppet of his, SpyOne, had spammed this off the board. SpyOne's spamming was reported in the Technical forum.

At this point, I warned a native nation, Peirre Augustus Renoire, and slipped in myself, in preparation to provide more UN support against the invaders. I also sought assistance from my allies, but by then, it was too late. Fasci de Geirre had taken over with help from several Air Strip One nations, and password-protected the region. He refused to provide the password to natives, claiming he had "forgotten" it. He then began booting natives for no apparent reason, and allowing Air Strip One members into 000.

This evening, when I logged in, things had gotten even weirder. Apparently, everyone in the region has been ejected and replaced with some 4500 puppet nations?!? Is this a game glitch? Also, the "regional events" links have been spammed clear by the Holy Empire of Russian Czars, and the message board has been spammed clean, as well.

000 has very obviously been invaded and greifed, and there is some extremely odd stuff going on with it. The main board claims that 000 is "devoid of nations", but when you hit the "list all nations" link, it brings up, as I said, some 4500 obvious puppet nations.

Like I said, I'm not a native of 000. I only stepped in to try and help out the natives of the region, but I have been in contact with a few of the natives for the whole Air Strip One invasion, and I have witnessed most of the invasion first hand.

In closing, I would like to say that I can vouch for the fact that Death's Plaything, AKA Garrison II, is a native of the region, and has been involved with 000, in some form or another, for well over six months. I can also vouch for the fact that Pierre Augustus Renoire is a native of that region, as is Rebbecania (may have screwed up the spelling there). After that, I'm not for sure.

If I can be of any further help or assistance with information about ASO members or what I saw happen, please let me know. I'd hate to see the natives of 000 get left hanging by these invaders and griefers.
The Volkswagen Beetle
21-09-2003, 08:14
Last night I was quite happily residing in 000. Well now it's an empty wasteland and I find myself in the rejected realms, and barred from re-entering 000! Fasci di Gierra has griefed the f*ck out of this region. What action do the moderators intend to take?




The main board claims that 000 is "devoid of nations", but when you hit the "list all nations" link, it brings up, as I said, some 4500 obvious puppet nations.


I believe that as 000 is empty, clicking on the 'list all nations' takes you to the complete list of nations in the world.
21-09-2003, 09:46
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New Java Scotia
21-09-2003, 11:27
The main board claims that 000 is "devoid of nations", but when you hit the "list all nations" link, it brings up, as I said, some 4500 obvious puppet nations.


I believe that as 000 is empty, clicking on the 'list all nations' takes you to the complete list of nations in the world.


Yep. Just found that out. Please ignore all my insane babbling about "4500 puppet nations" and like foolishness. :oops: I feel incredibly retarded for not realizing that. :wink:
21-09-2003, 15:11
he is not a native. He is a region crasher that is part of the Bing. We all know the Bing are reigon crashers,so why is nothing done about them?

Bing members:
layeththesmackethdown
kischwaukee
DramanerdXII
pusay
anenas
ottomous
cthullu fatgn
trent lane
Fasci di Gierra

anyothers i dont know of.
Ballotonia
21-09-2003, 16:31
he is not a native. He is a region crasher that is part of the Bing. We all know the Bing are reigon crashers,so why is nothing done about them?

Region crashing is legal. It's the griefing that occured that isn't.

Ballotonia