08-09-2003, 16:48
It was indeed a bug. Francos has been resurrected, and I am asking that no actions be taken in The Pacific for 48 hours to allow Francos to regain UN membership, and his delegate position.
I ask this in the interest of fair play.
No ejections from the region will be allowed for this period. However, nor will moving new nations into the Region.
What we have here are two entirely different statements by Neut that now require moderator intervention to sort out the situation.
a) Neut URGES us to let Francos return to the Delegacy, which is a statistical improbablity since many of the nations who remained endorsing him WERE, and still ARE inactive, WELL over 200 nations that HAD endorsed him before the debacle of bannings began, have since removed those endorsements because of the evidence placed before them, and his successor, InfernoIce already was in line with over 100 endorsements, also with a fair number from nations inactive over 10 days.
b) Neut makes a RULING that no further bans will be allowed during his imposed 48-hour grace period, yet, InfernoIce bans MANY nations that were in the Pacific PRE-CRASH, some as legitimate plants from the opposition to Francos Spain, such as Delphina who was the UN nation of choice for gaining endorsements, and others who merely agreed with our position... even MORE upsetting, other nations that were created during the crash downtime by uninvolved parties that were innocently fed into this chaos.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Aarghania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Free Land of Bistmath from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Queendom of Delphina from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Bartavia from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The United Socialist States of Arsenicburg from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Geomania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Free Land of Fudgetopia from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Dominion of Freemon from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Free Radicals of Mu-Mu from the region.
1 minute ago: The Republic of Fischer Land departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The United Socialist States of Greater Arkania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Dictatorship of Great Whale Minions from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Geomania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Republic of Conger Eel arrived from Pacific Army.
# 1 minute ago: The Free Land of Fudgetopia departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# 1 minute ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Free Land of Fudgetopia from the region.
# 1 minute ago: The Dominion of Freemon departed this region for The Rejected Realms
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Holy Empire of Mirabellis from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Free Land of Groovesnakistan departed this region for The Rejected Realms
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# Seconds ago: The United Socialist States of Greater Arkania departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The United Socialist States of Greater Arkania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Empire of Philopolis from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Holy Republic of Nassau-Orange departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Holy Republic of Nassau-Orange from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Free Land of Music and Adoration departed this region for The Rejected Realms
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# Seconds ago: The Holy Empire of Mirabellis departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Holy Empire of Mirabellis from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Free Republic of Jover departed this region for The Rejected Realms
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# Seconds ago: The Theocracy of Irrulan departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Democratic States of Texas at El Paso departed this region for The Rejected Realms
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# Seconds ago: The Empire of Philopolis departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Empire of Philopolis from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Holy Republic of Nassau-Orange departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Holy Republic of Nassau-Orange from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Nomadic Peoples of Thorn in your Flesh from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Oppressed Peoples of The Fifty-Third State from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Armed Republic of Vogonia from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Holy Empire of Valinor and the Valar from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Disputed Territories of Underseebooten from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Kingdom of Zoomland departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Kingdom of Zoomland from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Allied States of Wicked hogs 4 departed this region for The Rejected Realms
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# Seconds ago: The Nomadic Peoples of Wenchifer departed this region for The Rejected Realms
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# Seconds ago: The United Socialist States of Romanistine departed this region for The Rejected Realms
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# 1 minute ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Republic of Freke from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Holy Empire of The Idoru departed this region for The Rejected Realms
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Allied States of Zipeedy from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Republic of Wrightopia departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Republic of Wrightopia from the region
# Seconds ago: The Republic of The island of Asahiem departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Republic of The island of Asahiem from the region.
The first post from Neut was not a ruling, and Neut specifically addressed this later to say so.
However now, InfernoIce has SEVERELY violated the second of Neutered Sputnik's posts, because of this, the longstanding defensive actions of the Pacific Army, the position of its plants and nations prepared to move in to assist in the unbanning of Pacific natives has been compromised...
InfernoIce cannot claim he banned only invaders.... the mods can prove this to themselves I am sure by tracking Nation movements over the last few days... Delphina and several others were in the nation pre-crash and banned immeadiately following InfernoIce's rise to power... contrary to the moderator ruling.
InfernoIce has violated the Mod ruling, and we ask Mod intervention to assist in sorting this out.
I ask this in the interest of fair play.
No ejections from the region will be allowed for this period. However, nor will moving new nations into the Region.
What we have here are two entirely different statements by Neut that now require moderator intervention to sort out the situation.
a) Neut URGES us to let Francos return to the Delegacy, which is a statistical improbablity since many of the nations who remained endorsing him WERE, and still ARE inactive, WELL over 200 nations that HAD endorsed him before the debacle of bannings began, have since removed those endorsements because of the evidence placed before them, and his successor, InfernoIce already was in line with over 100 endorsements, also with a fair number from nations inactive over 10 days.
b) Neut makes a RULING that no further bans will be allowed during his imposed 48-hour grace period, yet, InfernoIce bans MANY nations that were in the Pacific PRE-CRASH, some as legitimate plants from the opposition to Francos Spain, such as Delphina who was the UN nation of choice for gaining endorsements, and others who merely agreed with our position... even MORE upsetting, other nations that were created during the crash downtime by uninvolved parties that were innocently fed into this chaos.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Aarghania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Free Land of Bistmath from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Queendom of Delphina from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Bartavia from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The United Socialist States of Arsenicburg from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Geomania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Free Land of Fudgetopia from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Dominion of Freemon from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Free Radicals of Mu-Mu from the region.
1 minute ago: The Republic of Fischer Land departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The United Socialist States of Greater Arkania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Dictatorship of Great Whale Minions from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Geomania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Republic of Conger Eel arrived from Pacific Army.
# 1 minute ago: The Free Land of Fudgetopia departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# 1 minute ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Free Land of Fudgetopia from the region.
# 1 minute ago: The Dominion of Freemon departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Holy Empire of Mirabellis departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Holy Empire of Mirabellis from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Free Republic of Jover departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Free Republic of Jover from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Theocracy of Irrulan from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Free Land of Groovesnakistan departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Free Land of Groovesnakistan from the region.
# Seconds ago: The United Socialist States of Greater Arkania departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The United Socialist States of Greater Arkania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Empire of Philopolis from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Holy Republic of Nassau-Orange departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Holy Republic of Nassau-Orange from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Free Land of Music and Adoration from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Holy Empire of Mirabellis from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Slackervania from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Confederacy of Shaka NuNu departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Confederacy of Shaka NuNu from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Empire of Philopolis departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Empire of Philopolis from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Holy Republic of Nassau-Orange departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Holy Republic of Nassau-Orange from the region.
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Nomadic Peoples of Thorn in your Flesh from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Oppressed Peoples of The Fifty-Third State from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Armed Republic of THAOM from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Slackervania from the region.
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# 1 minute ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The People's Republic of Sunshine People from the region.
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# Seconds ago: The Republic of The island of Asahiem departed this region for The Rejected Realms
# Seconds ago: The Immortal Armed Republic of InfernoIce ejected The Republic of The island of Asahiem from the region.
The first post from Neut was not a ruling, and Neut specifically addressed this later to say so.
However now, InfernoIce has SEVERELY violated the second of Neutered Sputnik's posts, because of this, the longstanding defensive actions of the Pacific Army, the position of its plants and nations prepared to move in to assist in the unbanning of Pacific natives has been compromised...
InfernoIce cannot claim he banned only invaders.... the mods can prove this to themselves I am sure by tracking Nation movements over the last few days... Delphina and several others were in the nation pre-crash and banned immeadiately following InfernoIce's rise to power... contrary to the moderator ruling.
InfernoIce has violated the Mod ruling, and we ask Mod intervention to assist in sorting this out.