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when i see posts like
This is why I think so poorly of "good RP"

:roll:
in the middle of perfectly good RP....persistent offenders not getting so much as a warning....fucking spam going undeleted...i think WHAT THE HELL ARE THE MODS AROUND FOR? :x :evil:

when i see posts like
This is why I think so poorly of "good RP"

:roll:
in the middle of perfectly good RP....persistent offenders not getting so much as a warning....f--- spam going undeleted...i think WHAT THE HELL ARE THE MODS AROUND FOR? :x :evil:

I think the rule of thumb here should be "patience is a virtue" As I'm sure you can imagine the mods have a lot of threads to cover and a lot of complaints that they get as well. They are but mere mortals and can't be every where at once. I'm sure if you ask for some help and have a little patience it will be dealt with when one of the mods have time. I don't think there is any good reason though to use caps to show your anger and or frustration, no one here has done any thing to you. You will get more help I'm sure if you are polite then if you're demanding.

Just my personal opinion.

Peace,
Stephanie.

Players should be able to pwd their threads, so you can RP until the end. Right now the RP is no fun at all, unless you call hijacking RP threads fun.

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when i see posts like
This is why I think so poorly of "good RP"

:roll:
in the middle of perfectly good RP....persistent offenders not getting so much as a warning....f--- spam going undeleted...i think WHAT THE HELL ARE THE MODS AROUND FOR? :x :evil:

I think the rule of thumb here should be "patience is a virtue" As I'm sure you can imagine the mods have a lot of threads to cover and a lot of complaints that they get as well. They are but mere mortals and can't be every where at once. I'm sure if you ask for some help and have a little patience it will be dealt with when one of the mods have time. I don't think there is any good reason though to use caps to show your anger and or frustration, no one here has done any thing to you. You will get more help I'm sure if you are polite then if you're demanding.

Just my personal opinion.

Peace,
Stephanie.
patience might be a virtue,but here were talking about repeat offenders who get complained about almost daily and still havn't been acted against...

Use the mod/alert system or linky things in here. Sorry I haven't been keeping an eye out, but I should be popping on to check more now.

sorry to have gotten angry, but the sytematic disruption wreaked upon good RPs in which i (or my puppets, none of which have any IC links) are involved by a small number of trolls is very annoying.
Here's the link ot the thread from which the exapmle was taken, btw :
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=65219

So go visit Reploid Productions, and purchase the latest and greatest of her ignore cannons. Feel free to fire away.

I've noticed that when you start responding to trolls (in other words, they get a rise out of you) they continue with their actions. Simply ignoring said trolls will eventually cause them to go find easier prey to annoy.

Yes, if someone is trolling or flaming, just ignore them! I mean, it's not like we have anyone who can threaten trolls/flamers with some form of punishment! The mere thought is ridiculous!

Indeed. If someone SPAMs/hijacks an RP thread, just ignore them. And I do mean ignore, not blasting them with the uber-mega-hyper-ultra-super-ignore blaster, as that just brings a topic even more off track. Just pretend they never posted.

Yes, if someone is trolling or flaming, just ignore them! I mean, it's not like we have anyone who can threaten trolls/flamers with some form of punishment! The mere thought is ridiculous!


Ok Raevyn, make up your mind. Either the Mods are here to enforce the rules, or we're not.


The Mods are here to handle situations that the players cant deal with themselves. Just because we're available does not mean it's ok to call on us for every little issue.

Either the Mods are here to enforce the rules, or we're not.
When did I say that they weren't? :?

It's a fair enough complaint, really.

Stephistans and TJ raise good points about patience and mod/alerts. When I'm scanning through NS (and to a lesser extent) II, I do try to keep an eye out for hijacking.

But, we can't read every thread. And I'll admit that the threads I look into tend to be the ones I find personally interesting.

That said, I have cleaned out RP's before, and recently cleaned out the NS stickies (the stickies on II are next on my list).

I think the best way is to completely ignore idiots and trolls when possible. If someone won't go away, or spams with a million 'lol' emoticons, go ahead and post in this forum and request help.

As for PW locking, I don't think that's a good idea. Many RP's are improved by unexpected participants.

Well, I think this was particularily targeted are The Bisons. He's been doing this kind of stuff alot, and he admits that he does not Roleplay. Attempts have been made to ignore him but he always shows up, and even when people tell him to go away or shut up he stays. And particularily likes to defend his stance of, "I don't RP I just Annex" by saying good RPing is just saying whether your general shaved or not.

Can't somone just tell him to stay out of International Incidents? It would cut down on alot of the crap in teh forum, there have been several (that I know of) flame wars and topics ruined with OOC because of specifically Bisons alone in the past week.

Heck according to what I have read so far, at least they are not invading their regions, now that would be one heckuva a flame thread,

He did it again. As soon as I entered a conflict he threatened to nuke me, then threatened to nuke skynet. This is also a conflict that was strictly agreeed not to be nuclear. And I might also mention in his threats, there was no RP whatsoever.

Then IGNORE it. Don't go complaning to the mods, just ignore him. Period.

Then IGNORE it. Don't go complaning to the mods, just ignore him. Period.

This is Bisons were talkign about, do you realize how many times people have tried to ignore him?

You CAN'T ignore Bisons. He refuses to go away. He threatens to carpetnuke people and then says he ignores carpetnukings because they're impossible! He says roleplaying is a waste of time. ON THE II FORUM! Christ, can a mod PLEASE turn off his posting privilages in that forum? I know it can be done because I have a PHPBB as well. o.o

You CAN'T ignore Bisons. He refuses to go away. He threatens to carpetnuke people and then says he ignores carpetnukings because they're impossible! He says roleplaying is a waste of time. ON THE II FORUM! Christ, can a mod PLEASE turn off his posting privilages in that forum? I know it can be done because I have a PHPBB as well. o.o

He can be banned from the forum for some time.

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1)See post is written by him.

2)Read next post.

Although I do kind of know what you mean. I seem to remeber him claiming I was a radioactive wasteland at one point. I perm-ignored him a long time ago.

Why do we even have mods then if they won't enforce the rules? Sure, we could just ignore spammers and flamers but we have mods so we don't have to.

The mods are not really here to enforce role play. We have more or less unmoderated role play, and I like that. Just ignore people, period. thats all you really have to do. If a person keeps geting after you when you don't want them there, the mods will step in.

The mods are not really here to enforce role play. We have more or less unmoderated role play, and I like that. Just ignore people, period. thats all you really have to do. If a person keeps geting after you when you don't want them there, the mods will step in.

"International Incidents
Declarations of war, international trade, diplomatic crises, and more. [Posts must be in-character; role-playing etiquette is enforced.]"

If they arent supposed to enforce roleplay than you might as well just take that out.

It is more semi-moderated. Basicly they do away with all the "I shootz joo with 363785763476578943657834658375635646367 n00kz!" type things. Altough I agree that bisons (or whatever his name is now) needs to be punished.

It is more semi-moderated. Basicly they do away with all the "I shootz joo with 363785763476578943657834658375635646367 n00kz!" type things. Altough I agree that bisons (or whatever his name is now) needs to be punished.

He was originally deleted for flaming and abusive Tgrams. But they let him keep his puppets. What's the point of deleteing him then? If someone can just make a new nation, flame and send abusive Tgrams, and only get that nation deleted then they will be doing it all the time.

I agree. I hate the guy too. If you ask me it should be the person baned, not that nation, every time. Sadly that is not the way the game works.

I'm looking into this problem. Continue to highlight incursions, particularly ones as rather clear-cut as that one, by mod/alerting and then stating why (spamming/OOC trolling in II thread).

I can site a few example's from very recently;

Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 9:06 pm Subject: Romania re-legalizes "Greenpeace"

*watches more greenpeace members be left in croc infested swamps*
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 4:09 pm Subject: Freedom Country

Lopsided? :roll:
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 4:04 pm Subject: Pilot ejects DT diplomats; citizens - 42 granted asylum

This reminds me to prepare to annex Kahaile and Grunge with... friends.
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:48 am Subject: Army

SOmeone just hire barbarosea to annex him
No warmongering bitch, no problem.
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:39 am Subject: Army

Antarctica, hire Barbarosea to annex his ass.


Barbarosea (a december nation) comes in a package with ruhr (early april) and celack (february).
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Dark terror
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 8:09 pm Subject: Join the UNAOTO!

Grr... if it wasnt for Fik all of you wouldve been annexed.
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Dark terror
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:11 pm Subject: New Kvenland War thread

Lets see how easily they can shoot down 1000 ICBMs shall we?

OOC: Hey, if you want to go nuclear (and spacetech), thats fine.
OOC:
theyre conventinals, and not space.

of course skynet will still go nuclear, oh well no more skynet.
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 4:08 pm Subject: ADATS for sale

We laugh at your overpriced bullshit and wil stick to our superior Pantsyr S1 systems.
(no offense but that is more in the $3 mil range)
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 3:55 pm Subject: New Kvenland War thread

B-2's wingspan is too wide for a carrier.


There goes the bridge!

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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:25 pm Subject: anti partisan operations going well

LRR is hereby:
http://www.users.on.net/killerkoala/ignore.gif
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 2:09 pm Subject: anti partisan operations going well

Whoevers against communism gets free assault rifles.
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:46 pm Subject: Attican Empire, Don't make me do what I want to do......

Mesquetors? Su-37MK pilots laugh at you!
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:33 pm Subject: Attican Empire, Don't make me do what I want to do......

YOu ignore him, idiot.
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:14 am Subject: Russian Forces starting a major buildup along finland border

WHo cares? Any of us can step on him.

(OOC: Oooooohh.. You're so evil that I just crapped my pants. )
Get ready to hand over your password
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I'd go further but I would have to go past yesterday... :roll:

And then again today;

Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:32 pm Subject: Galdania Launches 'Global Liberation Campaign'!
Thats nice.
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:10 pm Subject: Russian Forces starting a major buildup along finland border
Well you wont be annexed.

But get your wallet out
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:15 pm Subject: Russian Forces starting a major buildup along finland border
OOC:
I also had whaling outlawed before you morons tried to force everyone to outlaw it.
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:39 am Subject: Mercenarius has been contracted (Dark Terror, please read)
OOC:
Dont expect good RP from me. I view it as a waste of time.
Also, which one of you is sending the assasins?
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Am I actually helping or just wasting my time?

*mutters a prayer for his deletion.

Here are some more dating back from the current time to the last post I reported;

Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:44 pm Subject: LRR no longer Recognizes The Attican Empire as a nation

Ah yes, war #3 in 1 day to be mass ignored. Welcome to international incidents.
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:31 pm Subject: New Kvenland War thread
OOC:
I think Belem just got sick of the war and forgot about it.

Ah yes, another war in the serious RPing forum ending with mass ignores.
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:22 pm Subject: Swords for Sale!

TSE-Deleted for Klamath-ing.
:lol: :lol:
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:32 pm Subject: 3 communist agents executed in Bonstock
*waits for Galdania to see this* :roll:
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Dark terror:
Forum: International Incidents Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:28 pm Subject: 3 communist agents executed in Bonstock
Damn commies... need any help?
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Please, if I'm wasting my time could one of you mods please tell me?

Bump so I can know whether to keep going or not...

Should I keep going or not, I'd like some sort of reply from the mods.

Well, now that Reploid Productions is an admin...can you please shut off Bison's posting privilages in II, since by his own admission he does not RP and that is what II is for?

Well he is right about the B-2 being too big for a carrier.

Well he is right about the B-2 being too big for a carrier.

I'm not familiar with the situation you're talking about, but it is possible to suppose the existence of a carrier that can carry B-2 bombers. Such a carrier would have to be sufficiently large, though, and one would have to roleplay the added expense of such a large carrier to avoid godmodding.

--The Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."

Are the mods ignoring me? :?

In International Incidents alone, I have counted 210+ seperate threads that have been posted to today.
Considering the average count of posts per thread per day is probably around or above 5, then you're dealing with 1000+ posts in a single forum in a day.
Add in the fact that International Incidents is probably slower post wise than say general, and that there are 7 forums, this equates to 6000-7000 posts daily.

Then add in the fact that the moderators are volunteers, and their first duty is to carry out whatever business they have in their lives, be it class or work, and the forums often have less than half the mod force on hand at a given moment.

This means that it is impossible for the moderators to keep track of every post and ensure that everyone causing problems receives there dues in a fast manner.

Patience is a virtue, and the mods have far more pressing problems than some immature poster godmodding.

The mods are not omnipresent and will miss things. Starting threads where you nag about their inability to assume godlike powers in monitoring the treads only adds to the problem.

Patience, courtesy, and respect will get you far.

I'm not saying screen every post in II. I'm saying, lock the most egregious offenders (such as Dark Terror, aka Bisons, and Belem) from posting in there (which can be done in PHPBB).

Generally speaking, if you want something noticed, use the mod/alert system or link to it in this forum section; otherwise, it will only be noticed officially if a mod happens upon it.

Players should be able to pwd their threads, so you can RP until the end. Right now the RP is no fun at all, unless you call hijacking RP threads fun.

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If a player could delete replies to their own threads you'd see many real replies being deleted by vengful players or see opposing viewpoints deleted. I had this idea a while back but decided it'd be terrible in the long run.

Are the mods ignoring me or something? Heeeeeeelllloooo? Should I keep reporting his posts or are you not going to take any action?

when i see posts like
This is why I think so poorly of "good RP"

:roll:
in the middle of perfectly good RP....persistent offenders not getting so much as a warning....f--- spam going undeleted...i think WHAT THE HELL ARE THE MODS AROUND FOR? :x :evil:
If you expect a mod to read every single RP and delete every single spam message in the forums, you are pretty much asking for about 30 more mods. It is a long process. Calm down, and have patience.

More, in: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=69641&

*gioves wepaons to binger and walten, then grabs popcorn*

Are the mods ignoring me or something? Heeeeeeelllloooo? Should I keep reporting his posts or are you not going to take any action?

When I'm well-rested, I'll take a fresh look through this thread. However, being a new Mod, I have to check with the other moderators about what official policy is on policing roleplays.

What I'll probably do is take action on any blatant interference.

I recommend that you use the mod/alert system. Here's how it works:

1) Somebody makes an inappropriate post that you think requires moderator intervention.
2) You write a post that includes the word "mod/alert" (except without the slash).
3) I do a forum search on any recent posts that include the word "mod/alert" (except without the slash).
4) Any topics that are returned to me as search hits I investigate.

When you are talking about the mod/alert system (but you don't want to alert the mods), always include a slash. If you forget the slash, you accidentally invoke the mod/alert system and I'm led to believe that a mod is being asked for.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
"Think about it for a moment."
NationStates Forum Moderator