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The Alliance of Socialist Republics

Introduction

Comrades in arms, brothers in the glorious Worldwide Revolution! As you threw off the tyranny of capitalism and banded together for the greater good of your individual nations, so too do we call you to throw off the yoke of loneliness and became a part of a cause greater than any individual nation. For the furtherance of our own revolutions, and the protection of the blessings of our Socialist nations, let us band together in brotherhood to defend ourselves from the aggressive world. We understand the hardships of being alone, as we have withstood them for long. But let us join together. Let us share our resources and our soldiers.

Who is This Alliance For?

The Alliance of Socialist Republics is a new, non-aggressive, defensive pact designed to protect each nation from attack by foreign aggressors. The ASR will not, unless under the direst of circumstances, launch an aggressive war. We welcome only nations who have engaged in a Socialist form of government. This does not neccesarily require full-blown socialism to have already taken place; a nation may, having had a Revolution, begin a program of socialization and collectivism, but still join the ASR. The political system attached to the Socialist form of economy is irrelevant; we will, at this time, accept any economically collectivist nation.

How to Join

Either telegram me, Fluffywuffy, or post in this thread. After doing a quick check of your nation, I will approve or disapprove of your application to join. You may also post in the Forums, located at http://allianceofsocialistrepublics.freeforums.org/

Interim Alliance Charter

I: All nations of the ASR shall have a socialist economic policy. Any member nation that, through war, revolution, or legislation fails to meet this requirement shall be considered an observer to the ASR. Observer nations shall not be counted as member states for section two of this alliance.

II: All nations of the ASR shall declare war on any nation or alliance that launches an offensive war against the ASR or any of its member nations.
III: No capitalist nation shall be a part of the ASR.

IV: The current leadership of the Alliance of Socialist Republics shall be considered to be Fluffywuffy, until a forum is created and a new Charter is devised. As leader, he shall determine whether a nation is allowed to become a member, and he shall notify all members and declare war in the event of an attack on the Alliance or a member-state pursuant to sections I and II.

List of Current Members

Fluffywuffy
Bulgislavia
North Wiedna
Daiwiz

Official Message

To the Alliance of Socialist Republics,

The Theocracy of the Beatus, while not practicing, or believing in Socialist economic theories, or ideas, wishes to strengthen it's ties with all nations. As such, we wish to inquire as to the possibility of applying for a sort of observer, or liaison status with this organization, as a way of striving towards peaceful relations between all nations, be they socialist, capitalist, or communist. We wish only peace, and prosperity to our socialist brothers, and hope that something may be worked out, to facilitate dialog between this organization, and other capitalist nations.

Signed,
His Holiness, Edwardo Listless
President,
The Theocracy of the Beatus

OOC: $20 says GWO will make an appearance, denouncing this alliance, and declaring that any slight slip-up by this alliance will be casus belli for GWO to wipe this everyone in alliance out of existence.

IC: While the ASoGM is not a socialist nation, and does not wish to join, we would like to wish luck to this alliance and its members.

OOC: What GM said, fo' sho'.

Official Foreign Ministry Statement

Behold the shameless front of Marxist-Leninist gangsterism. We watch these organizations carefully, since, while they claim these alliances are for self defense of the socialist nations of the world, it is inevitable that these same nations will bring chaos and aggression to this planet. Socialism is a scourge, a cancer which admits it holds the goal of dominating all men under the red banner of Marx, the accursed spawn of Ahriman.

While you say this alliance is for self defense, be wary, the Shahdom watches and waits. Should there be aggression upon the world of free men from these accursed nations under the cruelest tyrrany, we shall do the justice demanded from us in crushing mercilessly such efforts of gangsterism.

-Message from The Lone Alliance Ministry of International Equality-
Though our nation cannot be a part of this alliance due to a shift 5 years ago to a mixed economy, we wish you luck and hope you prevail against any imperialistic tryants.

OOC: $20 says GWO will make an appearance, denouncing this alliance, and declaring that any slight slip-up by this alliance will be casus belli for GWO to wipe this everyone in alliance out of existence.

OOC: Good then. I alone have nearly twice his population.

IC:

Gangsterism. Thuggery. These are the words which the nations of the world use to condemn us in our peaceful attempt to band together. We understand that it frightens the world to see nations band together under one ideological cause for mutual benefit. We understand it angers the world to see disparate socialist nations unite for a stronger defense, for the imperialist powers of the world will have a harder time launching their invasions and conquests of our brethren.

We seek not the export of the revolution to any other nation. The revolution must come from within, not without, and we condemn those who intervene. We must reiterate that this is a peaceful, non-aggressive, alliance; there is no mechanism for the declaration of war save by being attacked!

We would like to take this time to invite the Theocracy of the Beatus, though a non-socialist alliance, as an observer state to the alliance to strengthen ties between the ASR and capitalist states.

John Karensky
People's Commissar
President of the Alliance of Socialist Republics

OOC: I don't mean to rain down on your parade, but GWO is 3.292 billion population (data from 20/5/09) and you are only 212 million population (data from 20/5/09). I think your being a bit cocky.

OOC: Fluffywuffy has a population of 5.999 Billion. If you notice, "Forum Fluffywuffy" is a posting account for the nation of Fluffywuffy, and he even has a link to his nation in his signature.

So unless there is a glitch that allows you to jump from 212 million to 5.999 Billion in less than a day, I believe you got it wrong.

ToUnited Socialist Republic of Fluffywuffy, the current leader of the Alliance of Socialist Republics
From: The United Socialist States of Daiwiz
Re:Requesting admission to alliance

We here at the United Socialist States of Daiwiz have long been supporters of Socialism, and to a lesser extent, supporters of our Communist brothers. Being direct descendants of the USSR, we were in fact a part of the original revolutionary country; for this reason, we feel it is our duty to assist those that choose to follow the correct path of Socialism, and to protect those whom have had a revolution in the name of Socialism, and failed.

We wish to assist our brothers who have succeeded in throwing off the chains of capitalism, and have taken to wearing the red cloth. We beleive that by joining this alliance, we shall be able to better protect both ourselves, and our brothers, from the fascist pigs who attempt to wipe us from existence. Too often have we had to witness nations such as the GWO, fascist nations without any morality, murder, exterminate, rape, steal, and otherwise harm our ideological brothers simply for having a different opinion. Too long have we been forced to stand idly by, and merely offer a place of safe refuge for these brothers. Today, that shall end.

We wish to join this alliance, and offer our help to any party wishing to throw away the hidden dagger of capitalism, and embrace Socialism. As has been said by our comrade, Fluffywuffy, the revolution must come from within the country, but that does not mean that other Socialist nations cannot attempt to free their bretheren through peaceful means. We wish to propose a new section for the charter, stating that should our Socialist bretheren in another, capitalist, nation be attempting to show their blood brothers the true path through peaceful means, that we must assist them by speaking to the government on their behalf. We feel that this would greatly assist the voice of Socialism to be heard, and to prove to the world, and those confused nations, that we are not thugs, gangsters, or evil. We believe that this will prove we merely wish for the voice of Socialism to be heard, and for our comrades to be free of those who wish them harm simply for beleiving in a different cause. We hope that you shall think upon this, and that you shall admit us into your alliance.

II: All nations of the ASR shall declare war on any nation or alliance that launches an offensive war against the ASR or any of its member nations.
War is fundamentally unsocialist. When you declare war on any nation, you are declaring war on the workers of that nation and you are exploiting your own workers, coercing them into killing their brothers and sisters.

The Socialist Republic of Fluffywuffy would like to welcome the United Socialist States of Daiwiz into the Alliance of Socialist Republics. As the Alliance grows, the security of our collective revolutions grows with it. May our revolutions reach the point of unassailability.

The United Socialist States, in its application for membership, mentions the eternal enemy of the worker: fascism. It is the warmongering fascist states that threaten world peace and our peaceful union of worker's states. They have, through force of arms and terrible wars, fought to extinguish the light of Socialism where ever it may be found. It is the fascist threat that catalyzed the creation of this alliance for the defense of the innocent.

Our brothers in the United Socialist States bring up yet another point: that the Alliance of Socialist Republics should work to expand the land under which workers no longer toil under the cruel whip of the capitalist oppressor. This is a point which the Socialist Republic would like to see debated thoroughly. Negotiations are under way to develop a new and comprehensive Charter to replace the short interim charter. We invite all members of the Alliance to join us in this effort. (http://allianceofsocialistrepublics.freeforums.org/http://allianceofsocialistrepublics.freeforums.org/alliance-senate-f4.html?sid=d69a0d7073f3e250af6b61cc663053a8)

Official Message

To the Alliance of Socialist Republics,

We gladly accept your offer of observer status. We wish to know, how far such status goes? Would it be acceptable, for us to have limited involvement in debate, and weigh in on important issues? We also, wish to offer our services, as a neutral party, to attempt to bring peace between the fascists, and socialists, should tensions escalate. We believe that this shall be a turning point in history, a point, where conflict and strife between opposing econo-political views begins it's grate decline.

Signed,
His Holiness, Edwardo Listless
President,
The Holy Empire of the Beatus

OOC: Fluffywuffy has a population of 5.999 Billion. If you notice, "Forum Fluffywuffy" is a posting account for the nation of Fluffywuffy, and he even has a link to his nation in his signature.

So unless there is a glitch that allows you to jump from 212 million to 5.999 Billion in less than a day, I believe you got it wrong.

OOC: Indeed, but this point is moot in the bigger picture. I would gladly support any GWO attack on this so called "alliance" of anarchists. Combined our two nations would outnumber Fluffywuffy by around 1 billion. Also take into account that mine and GWO's primary economic target is Defense and the fact that our nations are much more openly militaristic and aggressive. While this fact is mirrored by Fluffywuffy, combined ours would be superior anyway. Even this estimate is the bare minimum if a war was to break out as I am sure there are countless other nations more then willing to crack this commie alliance.

OOC: Nice to see you back Volzgrad, and I would also happily support both the GWO and Volzgrad in this. My nation never liked commies and we are blatantly militaristic. We want to lend a hand.

To: Leaders of the ASR
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

The Free Republic would like to know what the ASR considers to be 'socialism'. The Free Republic does not consider soviet style collectivist dictatorships to be 'socialist', this question would have to be answered before the Free Republic considered joining this alliance. Once that question is answered, the Free Republic would then have several other questions that would need to be addressed.

I thank you,

Scipio Nemaraan
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Ilek-Vaad

OOC: and I'm bigger than all of you, what's the point?

The current criteria for a nation to be considered economically socialist by the Alliance of Socialist Republics is that it must meet the following requirements:


Industry is operated by, or owned by, the State or some other sort of collectivist organization; worker's councils may own the means of production,for example. The purpose is to get the ownership of all industry into the hands of the workers, the State often being a proxy for the worker.
The means of the distribution of wealth shall be in the hands of either the worker or the State.
The distribution of wealth is done in an equal and egalitarian manner; no group is discriminated against.
All individuals are treated as equals.
A nation that is clearly on the path to these goals, such as a nation in transition, can still qualify for membership.


We make no denial to nations based on the nature of the non-economic government, so long as these nations are not aggressive. In time, once the Alliance is more fully established with a new Charter, these criteria can be decided upon more formally. It is our opinion that, over time, the economic policies of Socialism will put an end to dictatorship.

If there are any further questions, we would be happy to answer.

Alfred Mayor II,
Foreign Minister

From: Helena Draskovic, Secretary to hte Crown.
To: All nations involved.
Re: Foundation of alliance.

Excellencies all,

The Empire of New Chalcedon, despite being a nation that neither opposes nor practices socialism, wishes to express its profound disappointment at the formation of yet another alliance founded purely upon ideological bases.

Such alliances do not thrive, nor survive, and indeed draw immediate and hostile notice from nations opposed to whatever ideology they are founded upon. Despite intending to deter potential aggressors via collective security, such attempts as this new alliance seem more likely to draw it.

The Empire offers the nations participating in this alliance its best wishes - they will need it. However, if our allies should attack the nations involved, the Empire reserves the right to join its trusted friends and allies against this alliance, despite our lack of ideological or personal hostility. We implore all parties involved, whether for or against this alliance, to calm and moderation.

[signed]

Helena Draskovic,
Secretary to the Crown.

OOC:My nation is 1.855 (20th May) bill, and so even though you outnumber Fluffy by 1 bill, with my help, we now outnumber YOU by 855 mill. Oh, sorry Wolf Hold, with you, Fluffy and I outnumber you by 300 mill, sorry for excluding you. Besides, why is it that only the socialist/communist alliances get such hatred, while fascist, capitalist, or whatever alliances get big support, pats on the back, etc etc lol. As was said by Fluffy, this alliance is to provide an alliance that protects the socialist nations lol. But meh, this always happens. Ilek, your nation appears to have gone to sleep, so we can't check how big you are. Sorry. Oh, and the following message is how I would personally respond to how you guys are acting lol.

To: All nations currently opposed to the formation of this alliance
From: United Socialist States of Daiwiz
Re: Hatred towards the worker's nations

For what reason have you to beleive that we are thugs, dictatorships, and anarchists? Merely because of what befell our brothers in the now defunct Union of Soviet Socialist Republics? They were led by a power-hungry, paranoid man. We could say the same about nearly all fascist nations, as their original threw the world into a World War, killed over 61,000,000 people that fought against him, and caused over 73,000,000casualties world-wide. Over 45,000,000 that are dead are those who opposed Hitler. He raped, murdered, stole, and massacred his way through nearly every nation in Europe, and killed over 6,000,000 people of his own country for simply having different religious beleifs. In nearly every eye, he is a thug, murderer, raving-lunatic, and general maniac, yet you attempt to recreate his vision of a fascist empire, and have the arrogance to call us the thugs, and lunatics?

Stalin was no angel either, we realize that. We do not support Stalin, nor do we support his Gulag and secret police. What we do support, are the workers of nations around the world that merely wish to work in peace, to have a job, and to survive. We do not exist to force our own beleifs unto those that do not wish them; we strive to create a workers utopia. If you are willing to go to war with us for merely wishing to create a good life for our people, then who are you to name us dictatorships? In the United Socialist States of Daiwiz we hold democratic elections every two years, allowing the people to choose who on the Politburo is fit to lead them. If, for whatever reason, a decision is reached that none of us is fit, then they may elect whom they wish, from the Committee. The Committee's sole purpose in life is to protect the workers should a man or woman similar to Stalin come to power, as they are capable of removing the leader should more than twenty members approve. They then share power amongst themselves, being unable to make a decision until the majority of the committee agrees. Is this what you call dictatorship? Ask yourselves "Is this truly what you would go to war over?"

Graith Dr'klow,
Politburo,
United Socialist States of Daiwiz

To: The Empire of New Chalcedon
From: The United Socialist States of Daiwiz
Re:Re: Foundation of alliance

We thank you for your kind words, and for your warning. However, we have no choice but to remain steadfast; if we are seen to be weak, the fascist dictatorships within the world shall see it as a sign of weakness, and shall instantly pounce upon us, hoping to grab more territory for themselves. They have long bullied, and rolled over Socialist nations who wish to build a workers paradise, but no more! We shall not allow this to go on, as innocent workers are slaughtered and driven from their homes in the name of "Peace." The only peace that is ever brought by what the fascist nations have always tried is the peace of death. We sincerely hope that it does not come to war, as we wish to live in peace. Hopefully, nations such as the Beatus will rise up, and attempt to stem the flow of hostilities with understanding, and diplomacy.

Graith Dr'klow,
Politburo,
United Socialist States of Daiwiz

EDIT: Wolf, didn't it already say in your sig that you are militaristic, as quoted by some other dude lol?

EDIT MK2: Sorry for the message to "All nations opposed..." I was pissed off last night, and it was about 12 AM so I got confused with OOC and IC... I was pissed off so any sarcasm or good-humour went right by me...

Official Statement from His Holiness, Edwardo Listless

To all nations, involved in the Alliance of Socialist Republics dispute. I wish to warn you, we will not allow conflict to ruin what has up till now, been a peaceful, reasonable alliance. If either side wishes to engage in armed conflict over this issue, they will first have to fight their way through Beatusian Peacekeepers, who will be deployed, as a buffer, preventing armed conflict. We call for other nations of the world to join us in our protest of such blatant warmongering. This alliance marks a step forward for Socialist/Capitalist relations, and we will not allow such gains to be erased so easily.

OCC: AHH good old dickwaving from anti-communists

From the Office of the President of Reijvajik and its Greater Territories, Olimar Kabrinsky

The Republic of Reijvajik wishes to second the call for a stop to the dispute put forward by his Holiness, Edwardo Listless of the Theocracy of the Beatus. While Reijvajik is traditionally opposed to Socialism and Communism, we see no reason for there to be any dispute - let alone military action - for the sole reason of the formation of a formal alliance. To the members of the Alliance of Socialist Republics, the Republic can only wish you and your people well in your futures.
Again, we would like to call for a stop to this meaningless warmongering.

God bless, and may God bless Reijvajik,
Olimar Seukle-Van Kabrinsky
President of the Republic of Reijvajik and the Greater Territories of Dwarne

OOC: Dawiz you can never be too militaristc :D And its nothing personel to communist allainces, ICly we just don't like them and when they gather we see it as a threat to national security and on a final note, it isn't about the numbers it is about how you use them and how you RP.

OOC:No need for the buffer, I screwed up. I mixed up OOC with IC damnit... There probably is no war, or atleast, not yet.
Lol. Alright then. Definately explains this xD It's just, the only people who get annoyed with fascist alliance are those that are socialist lol.

It's just, the only people who get annoyed with fascist alliance are those that are socialist lol.
OOC: Yeah, because the IFA and ODECON have always gotten along peachily. WH, don't get into more wars, your schedule is full already!

The current criteria for a nation to be considered economically socialist by the Alliance of Socialist Republics is that it must meet the following requirements:


Industry is operated by, or owned by, the State or some other sort of collectivist organization; worker's councils may own the means of production,for example. The purpose is to get the ownership of all industry into the hands of the workers, the State often being a proxy for the worker.
The means of the distribution of wealth shall be in the hands of either the worker or the State.
The distribution of wealth is done in an equal and egalitarian manner; no group is discriminated against.
All individuals are treated as equals.
A nation that is clearly on the path to these goals, such as a nation in transition, can still qualify for membership.


We make no denial to nations based on the nature of the non-economic government, so long as these nations are not aggressive. In time, once the Alliance is more fully established with a new Charter, these criteria can be decided upon more formally. It is our opinion that, over time, the economic policies of Socialism will put an end to dictatorship.

If there are any further questions, we would be happy to answer.

Alfred Mayor II,
Foreign Minister

To: Minister Mayor
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

It appears as though our definitions of 'socialism' are mostly compatible. However there are still several other questions that would need to be addressed before the Free Republic could commit to studying entering the ASR. Perhaps it would be easiest if a representative of the ASR came to Great Lassic to answer questions from the Republican Council personally, as well as a representative of The Socialist Republic of Fluffywuffy considering our unfortunate past with the 'Empire of Fluffywuffy'.

I thank you,

Scipio Nemaraan
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Ilek-Vaad


OOC:

14.006 billion, and Ilek-Vaad has never been asleep.

OOC: Can we please not make this into a "whose weapon is bigger?" contest? Pretty please?