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Right, so I've decided to make the ooc thread for my civil war to discuss and plan things.

The general synopsis:

Once upon a time, a human scientist named Dr. Yamato Nasagori studied the swarm with unequaled vigor. The Swarm thought all scientists were as he, but after meeting The Rotan, discovered he was actually without morals, scruples, or compassion of anykind.

Uniting, they defeated Nasagori's consortium, but Nasagori himself disappeared, jumping into a random teleport. The computer revealed its destination to be The Warp...

For years The Swarm has searched for Nasagori, and heard his name called through The Warp as a wanted man. Yet another, foreign, unfamiliar name rose with his, a name The Swarm had never encountered before. It sounded strange and foreign to their ears, and when describing it to others they would repeat only one phrase in confusion, Malal...

Now Nasagori returns, no longer human, yet not Swarmling, and under the servitude of Malal. His mission is simple, wreck the plaything of the gods, killing all swarmlings Nasagori cannot sway to his control to glory Malal.

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So, that's the general outline.

Any particular plot points your interested in seeing?

BTW, this thread is only for those I've contacted, and/or have expressed interest in the events to follow.

OOC Info:

Allied forces lead by Irene
Forest Green = Daggoth
Purple = Irene
Red = The Overmind
Black = Zasz
Non-Swarmling control of any kind, regardless of whether its Ta'nar, Rotan, human, whatever causes Swarmlings to develop normal Rainbow patterns in their skin.

Enemies lead by Dr. Yamato Nasagori

Blue = Kaloth
White = Shaleth
Orange = Ginso
Dr. Yamato Nasagori = Negative Rainbow (picture an old fashioned color negative.)

IC thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14803588#post14803588

MAJOR OBJECTIVES:

Character objectives:

White tower characters are to sneak aboard the enemy space station holding The Crystal Spire, and make their way to its base where Zeratul will cause a probe to destroy it. Expect combat and trouble.

Fleet Objectives:

Phenixica: Destroy Nasagori's shiny new incompleted station and most importantly, The Supernova Cannon before he has a chance to use it. It is well defended and will not be an easy task. Warning, overloading or causing a backfire in the cannon will destroy the entire system, and everything in it.

Rotan and Swarm: evacuate the innocent Tanthanians.

Balrogga: Defeat The Anti-Swarm, keep Phenixica from being destroyed by The Enemy while the fleet destroys Nasagori's station, and once The innocents are fully evacuated, Annihilate the system using Space Minus.

Everyone besides Balrogga: Once the Innocents have been cleared, uplift to The Luminous Aether and bombard the system back to The Big Bang.

God help us if Phenixica doesn't destroy The Supernova Cannon within ten posts of The Spire being destroyed, or makes it backfire or overload before we can escape.

Needs some kind of kicker. Nasagoni/Malal is just another random megalomaniac. Chronosia's Chaos has caught on because he's got a system behind it (it's actually not chaos but fascism, but don't tell him that). This would catch on if it had something systematic behind it, too. If you've got The Swarm on one side (from a distance, it seems like an ubercommune, but I'm not sure), what kind of system would be a good, proper anti-swarm?

Something so dedicated to order that they seem to be all but perpetually petrified in motion. There is no order in The Swarm, only the ever changing will of The Overmind.

Now, I never said what Nasagori was like in his new form. He was a scientist after all, he may not have had morals, but he definitely had to have everything in order. Most scientists do, carefully regulated, carefully planned, 0 room for error. So, all I really have to do in that department, is take his already orderly personality, and make it a bit more, extreme, and let it spread to his swarms.

Hmmm, I actually can not see the Swarm as any thing resembling chaos / anarchy - every thing about the Swarm is only for implimenting the Will / Desires of the Overmind - even if that will / desire changes changes regularly / irregularly ...

The swarm is still the ulitmate Uber Ego/ cult of personality / tolatarian - none of the Swarm has any personality / independance / right to self determination SAVE the Overmind ( and even Irene is just an extension of the Overmind ) - they are just pieces of the Overmind made manifest.

So while it may seem chaotic / random / anarchy to some one seeing only limited portions of the Swarm, they actually are not.

Well then, what would you suggest?

First, I suggest that you stop writing about things that vary from one person or group to the next as if they were absolute.

When you write, for example, the Professor Whatsizjap has no morals, you mean that he has a set of values that allow him to commit any atrocity. Remember the old writer's adage that everyone is the hero of his or her own personal story. A man like Whatsizjap would have some personal justification for everything he did.

Likewise, when Chronisia writes of "Chaos," he means not disorder but a particular take on Fascism. Fascism itself is, among other things, a world view. It assigns to the world a certain order, and, as such, is not the least, tiniest iota chaotic.

Likewise, when you write of The Swarm as Ordered, you fail to account for the disorder of its internal parts. As you write about it, it is an aggregation. Thus, a certain amount of disorder is inherent.

You should start by coming up with a terminology that explains your fictitious world more accurately than that which you use currently.

I'm not Chronosia so stop bringing him up.

I'm not writing Chaos as some form of government, but what it is, the lack of order and the great volumes unpredictability. The personalities of the four gods give it focus and direction, and in turn allow it to be understood. Now I'll thank you to stop trying to tell me my vision is wrong because someone else did it differently.

I did not write of The Swarm as being ordered so stop saying I did, I wrote of Nasagori as being ordered. The swarm is disordered, there is the will of the overmind, which is more like a general directive, and the specific goals of the Cerebrates, which sometimes clash.

Whoah! No hneed to get all bitchy - I was just stating what it seemed like to me given what I have read.

Only you, untill you post it, know what your nation is like. That is why I write so much about my nation and culture so it's out there for every one to read -and I don't expect anyone to know my nation until I've laid it out.

But from what I have seen your people ( drones etc ) exist only to serve the ruler (s)

Since there based on the Zerg there are many ways you can take control of them, im just here to let you know that because you have a world in my empire I can now but into your affairs! YAY!

Contact me ICly if you want to bring me in.

I must admit, I suffer greatly from assuming that everyone gets the same things I get, and that everyone sees the same thing I get. I will try harder. Also, Phenixica, I took aspects of the zerg, mixed them with 'nids, added my own ideas and called it a nation.

Bal, I will contact you ICLy. That small scene in the tower was but one leg. The Swarm is spread out over the galaxy, thus, many, MANY people will receive much sterner doses of the same thing. Though I'll make them all NPC's, so that no one feels forced to receive a major backlash from the wounded Overmind. It's first coherent thought after all its instinctual reactions is to contact someone it knows can help it. It also knows the Ta'nar are the most significant Psionic force in existence, to its knowledge. It'll also call The Rotan (my alter ego), but you're their first call. Then a general plea for help, after which, all those invited can jump in.

Phenixica, I'm going to ICly order you to annihilate Hursi and the surrounding system. There are no Cerebrates there, and you have no way of knowing who's who. That doesn't mean your role is short, by no means. It's just the most logical way to handle the situation, you know it, I know it, and under extreme duress, the Prophet who'll speak with you upon your arrival, will admit it. It will leave a handy dandy trace to send a number of ships of your devising over with the main group.

I imagine a series of battles/skirmishes+plus other assorted relevant goals, and then towards the end, each player gets to take a major battle against a major NPC, PLUS, a brief fight against Nasagori, culminating in Irene's final showdown with Nasagori, and in that fight, I get to make her use the one ability she fears using to its fullest, Berserk. The tower scene was just a taste, in that it obviously increases her powers and strength. It does other things too. I'm so excited.

I'll make the thread tonight, since I sleep all day and work all night, except tonight which is my night off.

Any battle ideas? Goals to achieve? Anyone want to just kick Nasagori in the family jewels and laugh at his pain? I'm up for an awful lot.

One more thing: The Overmind will be destroyed half-way through...

Not to nitpick, but most people keep important plot points such as those you've just divulged in their minds until they happen. Then again, it does make for an attention grabber.

On a side note, why just kick him? Why not kick him, then blow him into itty bitty bits that can be easily pureed, eaten (and digested) by some passing animal, used as fuel for an ocean liner, dumped into a star, and then force that star to form a black hole? Yes, I've been a little "off" lately.

Because that has all been done aready and you would just be copying someone else in your effort at being over the top.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14803588#post14803588

Teh thread!

Because that has all been done aready and you would just be copying someone else in your effort at being over the top.

I knew there was a good reason...

Well, you can all post now. I left it open so that after the student's conversation, they could get to Irene before she left the planet.

Well I could try to get that confrontation between the EBL and Swarm I had prepared in the Great Old Ones thread, until that guy used the making shit up button, and ended it
This could also be the chance I've been waiting for to flesh out more about them, I've had plenty of ideas in my head I never got to use

Maybe next time. I like the idea and all, but, I've got a set of certain goals in mind to accomplish over the course of the war. Sorry, just, three mysterious spheres don't strike me as being able to help with those goals.

Not three, more, maybe 15-20. The three were scouts of an invasion force, they had gathered to the system when they detected the swarm, they were primarily seeking retribution for the damage did to the first sphere from that thread you made first introducing Irene.

All the same, they don't communicate or anything. In a future thread, definatly, just not this one.

I must apologize. I had thought I replied but I am obviously wrong.

Alright, I've got to go to bed, so I'll look for a reply when I awaken.

Just posted...

Can you please post the Brood color coding you use? It will help us knowing what broods are where so we can post attacks.


From your post you have:



Friend - Irene/Overmind

Forest Green - Daggoth
Purple - Irene
Red - Overmind
Black - Zasz




Foe - Dr. Yamato Nasagori

Blue - ???
??? - ???
??? -???

Delighted. I liked the Starcraft unit coloring system, so I have that ICly. Daggoth's mind is different from Zasz's mind, so they both make different psychic emanations, despite being parts of The Overmind. The Swarms have psychic sensitive cells in their skin and plating, and each mind causes a different color to develop. When I become Swarm again, I will copy and paste this into the first post for information purposes.

Allied forces lead by Irene
Forest Green = Daggoth
Purple = Irene
Red = The Overmind
Black = Zasz
Non-Swarmling control of any kind, regardless of whether its Ta'nar, Rotan, human, whatever causes Swarmlings to develop normal Rainbow patterns in their skin.

Enemies lead by Dr. Yamato Nasagori

Blue = Kaloth
White = Shaleth
Orange = Ginso
Dr. Yamato Nasagori = Negative Rainbow (picture an old fashioned color negative.)

Are all colors present at Zerus?

All except the rainbows. None of you have yet tried to take control of individuals, and Nasagori has not yet realized he can take control of individual swarmlings, thus, no rainbows.

All except the rainbows. None of you have yet tried to take control of individuals, and Nasagori has not yet realized he can take control of individual swarmlings, thus, no rainbows.

I thought my job was to kill them....

What do you wish from my forces before I compose a post? I will pretend I get passively the intentions.

I just want to get everything right.

Well, for now, kill the enemy, greet The Rotan, and discover that Zerus is slowly being saved as most enemy Swarmlings are leaving.

As for taking them over, a Swarmling you control, is not a Swarmling that will attack you. It's simply another option to consider when your faced by multiple Swarmlings.

Well there's my entrance, it'll tie in with my next White Tower post and give me an IC reason to send someone or two off to help.

For the tower students, my thought was for them to rush down to Irene's Hive before she left and declare their intent to help. Meanwhile, I owe Phenixica a reply so that he can send a few ships over to Zerus.

We have other means of transportation and I plan on bringing Josh along for the ride, leaving just Mali at the tower. Besides, with that many people, rushing doesn't work. I can easily bring all those who wish to help from the tower to Irene, where we can coordinate things. My old man isn't done yet either though. Balrogga is trying to push things along and I'm going to gloss over Yelena a bit (Sorry SS, but it's gotta be done) in an attempt to drag everyone else that wants to come with to Irene.

Either way, the goal is Irene, since Zerus is a long ways to teleport into the middle of a battle.

Right, well I'm heading off within a couple posts now.

I'm going to have to sit this one out, neither Drai'lee or Khatt is really suited to a war, but I'll read with interest.

The Cryptorchid is not the onyl ship I am bringing in, it is just the first. I will be bringing in more ships soon but I wanted to make sure I did not overpower the RP.

It is not far, my wormholes can get us there in 10 minutes (the reason my other ships have not arrived yet ICly is because of this transit time).

There will be army objectives, and character objectives, so worry not.

I will wait for Phenixica before doing anything major. He's having trouble logging in, and has not yet learned of The Domain Switch.

Just to confirm, Red Talons and Soviet Steam were accepted into my dissention thread, incase there was doubt.

Soviet, I just need you to correct one minor thing:

We're all on the Rotan ship, which is most definitely made of metals, and having a completely sterile scent.

Not to be rude, but it looks like SS says all that before they move then at the end "furthnately they were escorted away" aknowledges going to the Rotan ship.

I posted before she edited. It is possible I posted and she edited at the same time.

No matter, its all good.

Edit: I'm going to use the powers that be to assume we all moved to the War Room, and that's where Phenixica moved in so as to get things underway.

I posted before he edited. It is possible I posted and he edited at the same time.

lurk moar

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The first definition, not the second.

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The first definition, not the second.

Do you want to start a serious discussion over the rules of the Internet?

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If you do, for the love of Mod take it to Forum 7.

Forum 7?

And no, I don't want to start a discussion, I'm just saying.

http://forums.joltonline.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=1575

for all your spamming needs. :)

Ah, good to know.

Meanwhile, waiting on Bal and Phen

Indeed we are. And seeing as my day pretty much went to hell in the past hour, I'll see you folks tomorrow morning (or rather in 9hours because I can't guarantee that will be morning for everyone). Good night (local time of course).

I just got home from work. I will look things over and see if I can get a post together tonight.

First post updated with current objectives outlined in the IC thread. I will evacuate the citizens at a rate of ten percent of the total per post after the spire has been destroyed. Coincidentally, it'll take those same ten posts for the Supernova Cannon to warm up and fire.

The innocents will survive, but will we?

If you read my teaser with Nasagori, you can bet this isn't going to be pretty.

Plan B will involve using the warpgates in the Citerian as a actual weapon, if the fleet fires several well placed beacons near the station several gates will open and tear the station apart. Primitive form of the warp torpedo technology that was briefly mentioned in my NS2 posts, but of course the warpgates will bring the station pieces back into the Citerian where I would have to clean then up using Alpha Fleet

Be warned: Marvel reserves the right to step in and really screw things up!

You mean he hasn't done that yet? O_o

I hear that jolt is going down, and that we would be well-advised to move this thread to the new NS forum... :) :) :)

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That written, ...

I wrote REALLY screw things up.

He hasn't done that yet. Not by a long shot.

And if he gets control of his mojo, he just might stick around to duke it out with one of the big-time players. Neither Nasagori nor Malal would be pleased.

Now where in the world did you hear that? The last thing I heard was that the new NS forum in no way replaces the JOLT one. On that note, the new NS forum hates iPhones and iPod touches with a passion, which would mean I would have some severe issues with posting as I post more on my iPod than my iMac.

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Yet is your operative word.

iSee

Seriously, the new boards are still in Beta so they are not ready to replace JOLT.

Oh, don't worry about getting the equivalent of a boss battle marvel. You will get to fight an extremely powerful entity, of that, I promise...

As requested by ES, I am letting others do what they can with their characters. As an example, I know Galvenor would have been able to Psi the Mad Doctor very easily but I am sitting back and allowing others to do it instead, otherwise it will not be fun for everyone else.

If you want Galvenor to do something please ask him ICly so I know I am supposed to instead of waiting for someone else.

We are all in this together to make an interesting story, not just a couple characters doing everything.

Are you going along to The Spire?

Isn't that where you wanted the students to go?

Isn't that where you wanted the students to go?

Yes, but I sort of imagined you as their guardian angel, err, Guardian Ta'nar.

Would you rather Galvenor go with the fleet?

Either path works for me.

You had planned on me accompying the rest to the Spire. I will go there. It is the plot, besides Galvenor is not a fleet commander, he is a hands on type of guy, if he had real hands that is.

Overmind can take care of anything you toss his way along with any other ships you want me to bring in.

Oh, a few to combat The Anti-Swarm and, other, enemies, unless Overmind can take care of them. After all, The Rotan and Swarm fleets will be engaged in evacuations, and Phenixica will be busy destroying Nasagori's Supernova cannon before Nasagori uses it.

Also, you have your first task in the thread, unless you want our surprise lost. A simple one. Quell a scream from a Screamer-Killer.

Hmmm... No telegram yet.

If you are on MSN you should sign in. I will be on for a couple hours yet before I crash for work tonight

Of course no telegram, I've just shown everything that's in the room. That's mainly for much later as/if it becomes relevant. Really me TG'ing you depends on what paths y'all choose. Its possible to have a very easy trek, or a super-hard trek.

Meanwhile, get to stopping that scream, or I swear to Khorne I will crush them with a Swarm of Tyranids and Zerglings*. No custom creations, yet. YET.

*idle threat, will more likely be two separate rushes, one of Zerglings, one of assorted Tyranids.

Edit: Aww, and I was gonna have a ripper Swarm drop from above. Wait, I still can, in that room...

Hey, when you get to the fourth T-Junction after the second stairwell past the third elevator before the second big nasty surprise waiting for you do me a favor and head left instead of right.

I already stopped it with a simple Silence spell. It surrounds the targets with a fifteen foot zone that sound will not exit from. It is an old cleric spell of 2nd level from AD&D. (Actually it dates back to the late 70's from the origional D&D sets.)

This thread is going on too fast for me to keep up with it in a convincing manner.

I'm sorry, but unless the pace became steady enough for me to keep up posting only once or twice during the weekends, I'll have to leave.

*Edit: in fact, so I will.

A brief look at Marvel's common combat techniques:

Illusions and shape shifting: no holds barred.

Fireballs: he's a hellspawn. What do you expect?

SmashMouth Diplomatic Magic

Each spell is extremely effective in a limited way, but has a glaring weakness.

Concussion Waves: Description: Knocks back anything it hits. Moves at the speed of light. Strength: If it hits you, you're going to take a flying lesson. Weakness: The wave is two-dimensional, and you have to move your hand along the plane of the spell. It can be dodged.

Shaldan Shield: Description: Protects against magic. Strength: Fireballs, magic missiles, lightning bolts, etc. are absorbed, as are any projected curses. It would stop something like the Patronis Charm of the Harry Potter novels cold. Weakness: Offers no protection against non-magical or semi-magical items. An ensorcelled arrow goes right through it, and the spell on the arrow survives unscathed.

Bolt of Bologn: Description: Administers an enhanced electrical shock. Taser on steroids. Strength: Makes trash with flash. Weakness: A lightning rod or the Shaldon Shield will stop it cold.

Yendorian Magic:

Doesn't necessarily have a glaring weakness, but you have to play by the rules.

Double Time: Description: doubles the rate at which time passes. Strength: makes you faster. Can be used repeatedly for quadruple-time, octuple-time, etc. Weakness: if you over use it, you can get old in a hurry. Also, any object or spell that you manipulate ceases to be in its enhanced time when it is no longer touching you. Note: for obvious reasons, there are two adjunct spells that go with this one: Half Time (slows you down) and Time Keeper (notes your state of synchronization with the time stream around you).

Fire and Ice: Description: moves heat. One end of the spell burns while the other freezes. Strength: extremely versatile. More persistent than a fireball, and able to cool as well as heat. Weakness: heat cannot be created, nor can it be destroyed--only moved. And don't get too close to either end.

P.S. Thanks for letting Marve know he wasn't just going to be "just another ordinary character," as he puts it. He gets bitchy about stuff like that. It's hard to put up with sometimes.

We will really have to RP your reaction when you find out Galvenor is the Warlord of Hell. It is a result of an RP back on 05 and I am sure it will throw Marvel for a loop. If you see me on MSN give me a line and we can figure some of it out.

Once Sylvonia posts, I'll post further action.

Sorry its gonna be a bit slow for you Phenixica. However, I promise this is the only part your not in on. The way I have the rest of the thread planned, even the lull between halves of the story, you'll be able to fully interact with everything going on.

As soon as I know what is going on with the fleet action I will post that part. Let me know what you want me to do.

Go along and fight The Anti-Swarm. Right now, there is no fleet action because of The Crystal Spire. Although, the fleet is preparing for its jump once the spire falls.

Sorry, I forgot to mention I go to my dad's every other weekend. I caught up with what had been posted up to yesterday morning (I think) but nothing else. You'll have my reaction in a second. Or a few hundred, depending on how much my my cats decide to interrupt.

We will really have to RP your reaction when you find out Galvenor is the Warlord of Hell. It is a result of an RP back on 05 and I am sure it will throw Marvel for a loop. If you see me on MSN give me a line and we can figure some of it out.

Depends. Hell STILL has a standing order to terminate Marvel on sight. He's walking the world without a license. I'm writing a novel where a 10,000-troop Sanitation Detail shows up and tries to "sanitize" the town he's living in. I alluded to it in other threads. The townsfolk have to fake the eruption of a volcano to get 'em to leave.

As The Old Man bypassed The Anti-Swarm, he must have clearly moved past them on The Network. Thus, as I read it, The Anti-Swarm is between him and Mali.

Good point, also why I mentioned the "bottleneck" maneuver to try to limit their access to the duo. I'm thinking our methods might be slightly different too. The Old Man is pretty much probing out. He can channel his full power out through where he appears to be on the network, but rest assured that his mind is firmly planted in the room where his body lies. Zena's strategy is similar, though in reverse. Her mind is entirely on the network (like that of the anti-swarmlings) and tethered to her body. She can move it, use it as if she were in it, but she's not. It's similar to getting online and accessing your home computer to look for the presentation you forgot to bring with to your meeting. The Old man, in layman's terms, is browsing the internet with only basic anti-virus software.

Oh, and Mali's still in the Tower, it's Zena with him.

Galvenor did attune himself to the others so if you want him to act let me know here for he might "get a feeling" you need assistance. I won't act unless asked to.

I assume since the remark about regeneration was mentioned specifically to me I will have to do something about it.

That would be most wise. While we can whittle away at the beast, a little extra help in halting or slowing the regeneration would be very nice.

Well, the way I see it, its sort of a "battlefield of The Mind" with the network acting as the battlefield. Your right, different methods, different viewpoints.

Its so difficult for me to write here without giving things away.

Bal, the way I figured the Carnifex, its larger than the three combatants, so they probably couldn't see the wound on its back clearly. Meanwhile you, who can see energy directly, could easily see its regeneration, and maybe do "something" about it.

I should add, if Sylvonia and Stench had worked it out to where Josh's attack happened first, and then Marvel's, the carnifex would've been destroyed, as the spikes would've ripped through its body as it was forced backwards. As it was, I was forced to assume attacks happened in the order of posting.

Difficult as it may be, you've not given much away so far.

Perhaps now isn't the best time to mention this, but Josh doesn't see the way most physical beings do. His sight is similar to Galvenor's, though he doesn't often see the little details. That's how he was able to identify the energy "bubbles" as you put it with little work we did on invisibility. I did bring it up a bit in the Tower, which is why he and Marvel were the perfect duo to work out invisibility without the aid of someone more experienced.

Posting order is the way it was meant to be. Again, not noticing details he failed to notice Marvel's attack and thus simply tried to erect a sort of hazardous wall.

Well, I'm in the middle of wrapping up the mental segment. I'll reply to the Carnifex attack after Marvel does something. Though likely this is the carnifex's last moments. It wasn't meant to be a boss, only one hell of a burglar alarm.

By the way, the truth of Nasagori's very existence has been revealed to The Old Man.

The Avatars of The Multi-Verse are the property of Balrogga. Beyond Nasagori's memory, no Deity will be used directly.

One hell of an alarm it is too...

Consider the network segment wrapped up. The Old man is quite eager to share Nasagori's knowledge with The Executor, Irene, and anyone else who would like to take a peek.

Josh is blind and without his glasses it appears he can only see magical auras or something like that. It has been that way since he entered the school.

To put things simply, yes. So called "true sight" is granted to him through his glasses, though I thought I explained a bit more than magical auras. While not as broad as Galvenor's it's not that limited.

The Rotan can see in a similar fashion, but only with extreme practice and dedication. Thus far, only The Executor is the only known Rotan to have such sight all the time.

And that's the difference. Josh was born this way, he thought all people saw like that until people tried teaching him colors.

No, you see its natural to the species. But its untrained, kinda like how people can naturally climb a mountain, but only with practice can you actually have any hope of success. Its going to improve over time with evolution.

Ah, now that makes a lot of sense. Now the question becomes "Will they use both their current sight with seeing energy once they evolve?"

all my people cannot see "naturally" unless they view through someone else's senses. (except Josh obviously...)

Well it would work if he's using his glasses. Otherwise they'd just see a limited version of their own vision.

To get an idea of what the people in the fleet are experienceing watch this video about the last 24 minutes of 2001: A Space Odyssey. The only video on Youtube I could locate has Pink Floyd Echoes as a background track. (I think you will at least get the idea).

Pink Floyd "2001: A Floyd Odyssey" Full Ending Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f88NZ1sxWX0)

that WAS AWESOME!!!!


Calming down somewhat, the Spire team still needs to finish their objective, or we're trapped as in we can't annihilate the system. Unless of course Phenixica decides to let me fire The Supernova Cannon, then it'll be a moot point. :)

Ohmy. ES, did you swallow a whole box of sugar cubes a few minutes before you wrote that?

Also, we can destroy the spire if you hurry up and post in the spire.

On a side note, Bal, don't forget about the White Tower.

One lictor can be easily overpowered, I don't expect it'll last more than a few seconds. One Lictor against five Hero units is not a real challenge, but then if it was one difficult fight after another, we'd never get through this.

I found a movie showing Zeratul's fighting skills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or_-jn5AnoI

No, after this we enter Cargo bay two and face a real challenge.

I feel the need to point out, there are many ways this battle can end. At the extreme end of the scale, everyone's killed, leaving Galvenor all alone to go on a destructive rampage in a fit of anger the likes of which our un-evolved minds are not prepared for, and at the other end of the scale, we gain control over The Children of Chaos. There are many endings in between, all of which can be handled easily with some forethought by everyone, leaving Galvenor a spectator. But that's alright, he's got a "special challenge" at the end of the thread that more than makes up for sitting most things out. He even already knows what it is, but no one else will, until I reveal it....

Fine, but I'm taking Marvel's kid gloves off now. Before, I held back to give others the opportunity to engage. Now, I'm bringing out some firepower. I want to get through this and on to the primary objective.

Again, let me know here if you want me to intervene in the IC Thread. Just assume ICly I am watching our backs and keeping an eye on the rest of you. This is your story, lets have fun.

I am sorry, I forgot to post Fleet action once we got to the system. It's there now.

Once again The Avatars are Bal's property, I'm just borrowing them because they fit perfectly with what's happening.

Phenixica, read everything in my last post, Harrison is with The Executor.

Sylvonia, Zena and The Old Man is with him as well.

The Executor just took out three hundred Swarmlings with a single scowl. Beat that Galvenor. :p

Why, this is not a competition and you also control the damages...

Its a joke.

ES wins!!!! :p :p :p

I second that emotion.

Its a joke.

...so was mine.

No offense, but MATH RIDDLES!? Honestly? *yawns*

No offense taken, if I wanted them to be hard riddles, I would've used hard riddles. However, next time I face Josh with a riddle, you can bet your bottom dollar its gonna be harder, and possibly involve higher maths, and even further, may or may not have been made up on the spot without first checking to see if its actually solvable.

Edit: I'll reply a bit later today. Give Stench a chance to try and see it.

Oh. Freaking. Crap.

What ever happened to good old fashioned word riddles anyway?

Welll....

I thought a word riddle wouldn't fit. Sorry.

Well then... Numbers will have to work...

Sudoku, anyone?

BTW, while we're on the subject of conundra, I seem to have found a kludge that will allow me to post on this forum again. Thanks for the help.

You are welcome.


By the way, what are the Kython defenders coming up against? I have not seen anything referring to them since I posted them taking the field.

Oh, then you missed it. The Swarm isn't trying to resist them, not in the slightest. Infact, they seem to be activly trying to get destroyed by them.

Make sure you read my post carefully! Everyone has something to do. I'm assuming Phenixica, that you got Harrison over to the battle in time, which is why I posted an attack against him.

Tactical note:

Attacking the core is much faster. Attacking the limbs is much slower. Both are effective.

Only Core attacks = four rounds of posting

Only limb attacks = ten rounds of posting.

One round = everyone including Galvenor posts, then I post.

Alright, what about something like Josh's attack where it kills the limb while hurting the core?

Alright, what about something like Josh's attack where it kills the limb while hurting the core?

I'm going to average out each round.

That is, if more attacks hit the core, then then its considered a core attack, three posts to go. If more attacks hit the limbs, then its considered a limb attack, 9 posts to go.

If an attack hits both limb and core, then the fact it hits the core overrides the fact it started on a limb, and counts as a core attack.

In all likelihood, it'll probably end up being about six or seven posts.

not trying to but in, but Eternal Swarm i sent you a freind request and want to talk

That's what Telegrams are for, not this ooc thread.

I'm going to average out each round.

That is, if more attacks hit the core, then then its considered a core attack, three posts to go. If more attacks hit the limbs, then its considered a limb attack, 9 posts to go.

If an attack hits both limb and core, then the fact it hits the core overrides the fact it started on a limb, and counts as a core attack.

In all likelihood, it'll probably end up being about six or seven posts.

Makes sense. Gotta love these boss battles, eh?

Hah, this is a weak boss compared to what the white tower characters are going to face as their final boss...

Isn't that the way it works though? First start out weak and slowly build your way up to the big bad guy?

Well, unless you go to crazy land where everything is done crazily in a crazy crazy manner.

So my dads place?

No, that's just a suburb. You're thinking of my summer home.

Nope, to truely get there you have to take a Crazy Train (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Se9cVOlft4&feature=related)to see Mr Crowley (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLi_S-x8pwg)about getting the proper directions.

Lordy lordy! You've been stalking me!

EDIT: Though after talking to Mr. Crowley, I usually take the VengaBus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JM-FzoFq7I).

Hey all, you know the new NS forums, right? Well, since the forums are going down like the Titannic, hows abouts we take part 2 to the new II, or the new Nationstates?

Now where is you hear these forums are going down? Since the new forums came out, the official word is that Jolt isn't going anywhere; but the new forum was designed to make integration between a forum and NS better.

Also, trying to navigate the new forums with a phone is a bitch, I absolutely hate the way they have the NS side set up.

The slowdown on the Forums is because it is the end of the school year. I've seen this happen for five years and it always gets slow around this time of year, when school starts up, Thanksgiving, Christmas/New Years, and Spring Break really bad with the other holidays showing only minor slowing. Just like the sun goes through an 11 year cycle, NS has its cycles it suffers through too.

Forget a bitch, they're just impossible on iPhones/iPod touches. The top few posts get cut off of each page.

Ok, ok. The masses have spoken. We stay. :)

I would hardly call the two of us masses, but ok. On the other hand, it's comical to see a new thread that supposedly has two posts but visually has none.

I think it has to do with the Frames setup the site uses. When you can load several elements into your browser it works and looks nice but with phones, the browsers can usually only load one element at a time. You have to choose between the sidebar which keeps you signed in, the top frame which is unimportant, or the content of the page which is important. So you can see I need two of the frames to load to keep me signed in and able to read/post. If the Jolt forums were cancled I would not be able to check any NS stuff with my phone at all.

By the way, I plan on trying to catch up sometime tonight or tomorrow night with my posts. RL has been busy with my wife holding a neighborhood grill out tomorrow. Gotta clean EVERYTHING.

That's alright, its just the slow middle section. No fighting action going on.

Hooray for good timing! This never happens to me. I'm at my aunt's house so I have limited time online. When I do manage to make it to the internet, we're usually working on something together or shopping.

I would hardly call the two of us masses, but ok.

Diet's going OK, huh? :p :p :p

Dastardly Stench;14838292']Diet's going OK, huh? :p :p :p

Thanks for asking! I've already lost 20 pounds! :rolleyes:

Guess we can't call you "masses" at all, then!

I'm going to double post in the IC thread because I'm awesome, and I need to get this post done with before the posting fairy runs away screaming in manic laughter, as she usually does after visiting me.

Oh come on! Why is it ALWAYS my fault!?

And now, through the magic of the internet, we bring you...

THE POSTING FAIRY

::Whisk!::

Hello, thweetetht oneth! I jutht came to thith innnnnnterethting thread becauthe I thought I heard my name! And there it wath.

Thwarm, thweetie, you mutht get out more! I wathn't running away from you! Banish the THOUGHT! It'th jutht that the god of pothting wath having hith weekend funny, and thothe bunth of hith are thimply to DIE for! How could I be anywhere elthe?

Oh, and, boyfriend, thtop calling me "she." I'm male--in fact, I'm more man than thome will ever be and more woman than thome will ever get! Helpth with that flair for the artth thing.

Anyway, I'm gonna let ya go fer now. Thee ya thoon.

Toodleth!

Something tells me ES didn't mean that kind of fairy...

If it was that kind of Fairy my two gay brothers would be much more interested in these forums and stop calling me a nerd because I post on them :P

Just how many brothers do you have?

4 brothers, no sister and all brother are older brothers :P

The TV was broken allot

How can you tell what kind of fairy it was? I mean, who's to know what lurks under those wings, and that little crown and big, heavy dress?

Common sense.

I'm giving stench until I wake up to post in the IC thread, then I'm making assumptions and moving forward. Really hope he's here for the mid-boss, I made his just for him. I'm sure our fight will provide a lot of laughs.

Where do you live? When do you sleep?

Since you're looking for laughs, did you have as much fun reading that last post as I did writing it?

You know, that's a good question...

I live in texas, but work overnight...

Edit: and I think your going to enjoy my mid-boss extensively. Actually, let me rephrase that, I think WE'RE ALL going to enjoy Marvel versus The Dark Circus Mid boss fight.

Whoops, let the clowns out of the bag...

I don't like clowns...

Aww, but these are the cute and cuddly kind, with razor sharp teeth and everything. Are you saying you wouldn't want to cuddle up with a lady clown that looked like a she-demon?

Meanwhile, I have a post to write, and a Marvel to disappoint.

I'd rather drop her down one of those giant garbage chutes with the trash compactor at the bottom. Then pour something down on top of her. Hot oil sounds good.

I used relitivity to determine what would happen in the clash between my Kythons and the Nanos since I already posted their velocity of travel.

Good for you. I'm gonna have a good old fashioned barbecue with Nasagori as the roast.

Wow! I'm impressed! I just mention General Relativity and everybody goes off into an orgy of physics lessons!

That said...

::ahem::

Speaking as a college graduate...

Balroga, none of your post dealt with any of the affects that the theory of general relativity describes. General relativity is about the relationship between time, space, mass and acceleration. Your post stuck strictly to single frame-of-reference stuff, like

f = ma

and the physics of inelastic collisions (which I will not get into 'cause I know how bored everyone will get).

My post differed from this in that it pointed out that when Dr. Yamato Nasagori sped up to near the speed of light, he slowed down his own personal time while he was at it--thus, even if he was running a time compression spell, he wouldn't have time to react to what Marvel did to him.

We will save for another time the lecture on how, if he was moving at that speed, the friction from the air he was flying through would tear him apart (this is covered also in the category of inelastic collisions)...after all, he IS God in that universe.

I am sorry if I got it wrong but when he posted the attack that was my initial reaction but was unable to post it until now.

Even though he may be controller of this domain, if he micromanages too much le might lose control over other things, especially since he is so new at being the Lord of the (his) Universe.

I am aware of the time dilation as you approach C but the Kythons were not trying to dodge, just use ther "extra mass" to punch through that cloud and destroy as much as possible. I hope I described what I envisioned good enough other than wrong terminology.

Oh, I posted in the other Thread...

Actually, there is no time dilation as you approach C. The dilation comes when you accelerate. That's the point. If you're going at 0.8C and just keep going, you'll be at normal time. You'll take a hit if you speed up or slow down, but, as long as you keep going at a constant rate, you're just fine.

Either way, I can step things up.

Either way is fine with me. I'm just along for the ride on this one. Thanks for the fun so far. :) :) :)


BTW, did someone mention a Warner Brothers cartoon?

Just keep turning Elmer's log around and around until he tears up his contract. Everyone has their breaking point, it's just a matter of when and where.

OK. I admit it. I'm confused.

Congratulations, Syl. You've officially baffled me with your bull. ;)

It's a reference to an old Buggs Bunny cartoon. Like, really old. Elmer Fudd was hunting him and Buggs tricked him into running into a hollow log and out the other end, which was in midair because of a cliff. Fudd kept running out, realizing what happened, then back in. Once inside, Buggs would spin the log and Fudd would end up off the cliff again. Eventually Elmer got so mad that he quit and tore up his contract with WB. The rest of the episode had Buggs pleading with him until Fudd realized his mistake. The episode ended with Fudd taping the contract back together and him actually enjoying running off the cliff over and over again.

Oh. Alrightie then! :) :) :)

Seriously, though--at least, as seriously as one can get under the circumstances--if you guys can pick up on my mention of the theory of general relativity, why can't I pick up on someone else's mention of a Warner Brothers cartoon?

And what Warner Brothers character would be better to taunt a villain than Buggs Bunny?

I'm the one that mentioned Warner Brothers, as a reference to where I got the idea from.

Really, I'm waiting for Phenixica to post before I bump the counter up to 4/5. During that post, I'll build up to the mid-boss fights, and after y'alls replies, I'll bump it up to 5/5, unleash the fights, send out powerful attacks, and restart the counter at 1/10, at the end of which the final boss fights will be unleashed regardless of progress.
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange eons even death may die.
I anticipate the final boss fights will give everyone pause.

It contained brain matter from the ten greatest Psions in history.


There are no Ta'Nar in there...

Dastardly Stench;14843228']And what Warner Brothers character would be better to taunt a villain than Buggs Bunny?

Daffy Duck?

There are no Ta'Nar in there...

Are you, certain?

Are you, certain?

Considering they're his species, I think he's got the final say there.

Are you, certain?

Yes, quite certain.

Remember, they are pure thought and immaterial. There is no brain goo you can get from them much less put it in a vial.

Normally I'd say this looks bad. But judging from a few things going on in RL, this actually looks like a walk in the park.

Now im just going to be forced to bring about the secret weapon I have been brewing with hints all throughout this thread, I was hoping on doing it on a seperate thread but oh well :P

Good trick, the Knights and most of the soldiers wouldnt harm it because as mentioned it's stil the Phoenix but to the eyes of the more educated they would know that the Phoenix they worship doesnt exist in one but in the 5 brother yadder yadder boring religious lore I wrote ages ago.

Thank you, both of you. Hope the RL stuff calms down for you Syl.

I really did put some thought into these.

The Dark Phoenix was something I've been waiting to do for awhile.

Well, so was the Circus. We're going to have so much fun. Demented, homicidal fun. It's the best kind of fun you know.

On a thoroughly related note, I need to ask Bal a question in TG, hope his answer is what I hope it is.

Let the posting begin!

It'll be over and done with as of july 3rd.

Speaking of over and done with, here's the chaos coming up for me.

I am on vacation June 24th (wednseday) through june 30th (next tuesday). As such, I'll be on only minimally, and probably will just check the posts unless I get a moment to read. Bad timing, I know, but the LWMS convention is in Denver and we're bringing my grandma down there one last time.
I am moving! We move some stuff July 1st, some July 2nd, and once we take out the modem on the second, no internet for me until almost 24 hours later. Thank heaven Qwest has good tech support out here in the boonies.

So there it is, my playing card as I ressurect Emperor Belcameron II. Been waiting for a reason to ressurect him for awhile but the swarm allowed me to finally get all the pieces I need.

A Mirror of the Phoenix is the last piece of the puzzle, finally cracked the egg open and the 5 brothers have agreed to allow Harrison to finally change over.

Yeah. Kewl.

And the red-skinned one has five or so new friends, too. :) :) :)

Stench, check your TG's.

Done.

Guys, I need a few days to think about what attacks to do next. I thought the mid levels were harder than they turned out to be, which completely relieves my fears about the finals.

So, sorry, and, thank you!

Do what you need to do. We can be patient. I'm taking off for Colorado for a week anyway so you don't hear me complaining.

I have decided upon my course of action, and will post it over the weekend in anticipation of Sylvonia's return.

I've arranged a diversion for those who wish one, in case no one had noticed... :) :) :)

Its just a shame the ringmaster is only secondary to the real enemy. I was going to bring him out later, but your hyperactive posting without waiting for me to do something has forced my hand. Like that one chef, I'm gonna kick it up a notch. BAM!

Emeril Lagase.

And you can post, I'll just be delayed in replying. Long replies don't work well for me on an iPod touch. EDIT: though I will read it and take the time to come up with something clever to reply with.

Stench, we noticed, but very few of us can pull our characters away from our battle without murdering them once it resumes.

Emeril Lagase.

And you can post, I'll just be delayed in replying. Long replies don't work well for me on an iPod touch. EDIT: though I will read it and take the time to come up with something clever to reply with.

Stench, we noticed, but very few of us can pull our characters away from our battle without murdering them once it resumes.

But they're already there! Syl put them in the box FOR you!

Sorry 'bout my impatience. I was hyperactive when I was a kid, and channeling Marvel brings out the infant in me. (It's really funny how much my writing affects my mood. When I do Marvel, I get manic; when I do my villain character ("The Sphincter"), I get crabby; when I do the Metal Man, I get too laid back. Oh well...life is full of little inconveniences...)

Since I made a boo-boo, I think I'll hold off posting for a while to give poor overworked Syl a chance to recover.

Don't worry, My reply solves this admirably. Hope you got a few more tricks left up your sleeve...

Oh dear... I guess it's good I have a few characters to break up the workload with. Though the old man is not going to feel so hot.

Yay, home. Now I just need to unpa*snore*

Did you want me to do anything more than inconviencing DG? I don't want to take care of her if someone else can, I think I distracted her enough and took her attention away from the others.

Oh, post last, waiting for Stench, Phenixica, and Sylvonia to post their actions, since DG and evil raggy are the last remaining threats. If it seems they can destroy her this post with their combined attacks, then don't worry about it, but don't forget about the visitor you brought, or the historic figure sitting next to you.

After DG and ER are defeated, Kajeenith takes them with him as he leaves.
The Eldritch Nightmare Swarm is going to eat you all.
After DG and ER are defeated, you should rest up since there'll be a lull and then the finals, with only minor pockets of enemies to worry about.

I'm sorry, I didn't stress that quite enough.

I HIGHLY ADVISE YOU REST UP/RECOVER/REPAIR IN THE UPCOMING LULL BETWEEN MIDS AND FINALS.

Have never used the Phoenix's as actual characters before, normally they just talk through characters and such. So it's very new and exciting to try to show a bit of the personality that each of the 5 brothers are meant to have.

As noted in the IC post, Boogum can come back at any time. Marvel really doesn't have a weapon that can destroy a gaseous adversary. He knows how to make congealing agents--spells that would turn such a being solid and cause its demise--but these require a material component, and he doesn't have the ingredients handy.

Only other thing he has that might work is a Consumption Spell, which devours magic of any kind. That might make the Boogum solid (MIGHT), but it won't kill it.

Yog and Azathoth?

How the hell did you create a “collection of pink and blue spheres of energy” and “a giant flaming sphere at the center of the universe” with the Swarm? There is not any DNA available to make them, they are evergy. Dagon is just a lizard man and Cthulhu is just a mind flayer type being with wings. Narly had a thousand forms. Which did you copy? None of the genetic material is a copy of the Essence of the beings inhabiting their bodies. It would be like using a human to make Zeus, Marduk, Jesus, Kali, Buda, or any of the other human-type gods we have in RL. (No disrespect to any RL religion.)

The Mythos Entities are not minions to toss around like they are just 10 Hit Die critters, they are unique entities that have a lot better things to do than hang around here.

As far as I am concerned, power level-wise nobody here is above avatar level (NOT the Multiverse Avatars) and the Mythos entities are in a whole new ballpark. That is why I used Mythos against Mythos in asking Kthanid here, nobody should have anywhere near the ability to beat them and it would take the original Elder Gods that initially beat them and imprisoned them to counter the Outer Gods or the Great Old Ones.

Now if you were to throw Byakees or The Fungi or any of the other fightable level creatures at us it would be reasonable. Even a Shuggoth would be beatable with this bunch (they were really damn nasty) but not the main entities, they are like the Chaos Gods in Warhammer, only part of the background, not something meant to actually be met.

Azzy and yoggy:
If I told you OOCly, then that would ruin the surprise, but your not going to like what you find. You'd be surprised at just how many threats are on the field (mythos wise). I would've presented more than I did, but to do so would give away too much and make it fairly obvious. Shucks, I'm surprised no one's arrived at the conclusion before. I mean considering the source materials...

However, I've also seen pictures of the two having forms that can be imperfectly mimiced by organic flesh, such as this one of Yog Sothoth:
http://s188.photobucket.com/albums/z71/john525_231/?action=view&current=yogsothoth.jpg

And this one of Azathoth

http://s231.photobucket.com/albums/ee85/_Pedobear_/?action=view&current=Azathoth.jpg

Yes, they are energy, but they've also been depicted as solid organic beings. If you look carefully at Azathoth's picture, you can see the eyes and the mouth, and from there its not hard to conjure up a body.

Additionally, I've always heard of Dagon as a massive sea serpent, and so presented him as such but on a much smaller scale. Such as in this picture:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/Dagon/kenshin_gonzalez/antiguos/dagon.jpg

But none of the collections I've read had any references to Dagon, only that I've heard through non-written sources that he's a leviathan, and all the leviathans I've heard of are typically serpents in a non human form.

As for Nyarlethotep,

http://aldaria02.a.l.pic.centerblog.net/9o48d28e.jpg but once again, much smaller.

And plus, I've mentioned several times in many places that Hives are Swarm weakness. He's in a swarm body (as was evident when he looked in the mirror and saw his own body back in R'lyeh), not his own, destroy the Hive and his spirit will be forced to flee back to R'lyeh.

As for this as the final event:

I've mentioned twice now that Xos is in the orb. If you had freed Xos when you had the chance we never would've gotten to this point. Even those that didn't know the man could've pressed the issue and freed him. Heck, if Good Rahegalhoff's sword had been summoned like I hinted at using reverse psychology, this still wouldn't have happened.

I'm curious as to why you chose not to deal with Dark Gaia yourself. I'm disappointed, your supposed to be extremely powerful, powerful enough to make anyone pause with consideration. Was she that frightening? It was just Rot and Entropy, a throw back to basic magic counters. A strong burst of Syntropy and Healing energies like only you can do was more than sufficient to weaken her so that someone could get in a killing blow. Hell, if it was strong enough, it would've killed her.


For reference in endings, there was a possibility to become friends with Nasagori, the real one.

There was also the possibility to go back in time and save The Overmind and stop Nasagori before he even started, but no one even raised that concept.

There are two potential outcomes remaining. One is the truth. One is a Lie. Which will you find, the truth, or a lie?

Your invited to celebrate my return as Warhaven!

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6727

Since we have no choice but to use the new forums I wrote up a new diplomacy thread (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=6780).

45 places so im sure I can fit everybody in somewhere

Before we wrap this thing up, two questions:

1) What happened to the hive tyrants who summoned Cthulu?

2) What happened to Malal?

1) Typically, anyone summoning Cthulhu gets eaten first in the summoning. Since this was a bad anime version of Cthulhu, who knows if this still holds true.

2) Malalalalalalala was implanted into the Doctor's mind by Irene when she betrayed us all. (I can make up nicknames too!)

1) So it's a loose end, then?

2) So he's stuck in Dead Zone's brain? (Yes, you can, but Marvel's "Mal-ignant" was much more obnoxious.)

Nope, Irene planted the idea that Malal was contacting the Doctor, it was Irene all along.

So Malal was never actually involved in this? He's actually off in the godly plane somewhere surpin' down the god brews an' livin' it up with the god babes?

Apparently so...

Here is the post with the info in. I made the revent passages larger.

"Perhaps it is time you heard some truth. You may not like what you hear, but it is important you hear it anyway." Xos said. He began to sit down, and by the time he was fully sat, he had come to be sat upon a wicker rocking chair.

"Let's start with Nasagori. You are both entirely and utterly correct. THIS Nasagori is dead, the battle is over. There are two Nasagori's remaining. I know this, because the sharing of knowledge was bi-directional and tapped into greater secrets than I wished to know.

"There is the original Dr. Yamato Nasagori, kept alive only by life support and prevented from normally completing the normal cycles of life through complex technology I care not to go into detail about at the moment. He has spent the last few millions of years praying fervently for his own death, going through a personal hell of his own creation worse than anything any deity could create. The only way to make it worse is to make it to where he won't ever die, no matter what. Immortal, but not truly so, for when one gains immortality through normal approved means, other benefits come along with it that allow you to enjoy a never ending life. If this wasn't so, Galvenor would have gone insane by now, not to mention the myriad self-proclaimed Gods, like those of Chaos, though I find their sanity questionable anyway.

"The other Nasagori is the very first clone the original made. He himself is thoroughly insane, and is responsible for keeping the original alive. The original desired only to study the universe peacefully, not as his clones have. He desired to watch suns rise and chart weather patterns, maybe even formulate cures for diseases. To this end, he cloned himself, believing his clone would carry on exactly as he did. Remember, this was back when all the old tricks were still fresh, so he was genuinely surprised when his clone turned on him. But this was with a twist. The Clone, knowing his father was almost dead, acted out of love and fear, desiring to find immortality to keep his father with him forever, afraid of losing him. It was not hatred.

Yet for all that, I know not where they are, only that they are a number of galaxies away and pose us no threat for the next few years or so.

One thing bothers me though, there is a missing piece to this puzzle. It was never Nasagori's idea to attack The Swarm. He was contacted by someone within The Swarm.

I would press Irene for details, but she is gone. Her body was devoured, and her mind fled the planet into The Warp, more specifically, the section where Tzeentch's power is strongest. The ambient power of The Lord of Change has thoroughly masked her trail.

It is easy to tell though, that she will return in time, when her swarms are back to full strength with a few new tricks up their sleeves. That is her nature. She needs to assert her dominance over the lot of you to prove something. I hate to say it of her without proof, but she might have been behind the entire thing from the beginning. Look at what she's gained, a massive living weapon that bows to her will and her will alone." Xos said, rocking in his chair.

"But as you say, there is no proof. With years to wait in either case, there is no more point to remaining here. Perhaps it is time we parted and went our separate ways until then." The Executor said.

"Perhaps, but stay alert." Xos said, waiting for questions, there almost always were.
~~~
Meanwhile...

Irene had stood before Tzeentch in The Warp.

You have lied to all those who would call you friend. You have caused your father to be killed in a mad quest for power. You have falsely used our powers to create a pseudo Chaos-Undivided, and caused a dishonest scientist to be killed in action. I'm proud of you, you deceitful little creature. It was a brilliant stroke pretending to be surprised and distressed over The Overmind's death when you yourself Masterminded Nasagori's entire war and attack to take his throne. You have glorified not only me, but Khorne, Slaanesh, and Nurgle greatly. Just please don't override Nasagori's mind with images of Malal again. It's bad enough we can't thoroughly rid ourselves of that pretender without you glorifying him as well by turning Chaos against itself in your civil war when you had alien gods summoned.

Regardless, I am sending you to an outlying Galaxy where none will find, or look for, you as you repopulate The Swarm.

Irene recalled the favor as she found herself standing on a world rich in Biomass. Already, she had impregnated herself, and in a few weeks, she would give birth to a Hyper-Spawnling, which would evolve into a Drone, which would mutate into a Hive Cluster. The Swarm would live, and when she returned, she decided she would eat her friends personally. To think they thought she had really changed The Swarm.

In ten years, they would know the true face of The Swarm.
~~~

Elsewhere, far far away...

Nasagori read through his clone's memories and knowledge.

"At last Father, the secret to perfect cloning, and immortality. I've found The Swarm for you again. This, this requires my personal attention. I won't lose you to death, I swear it." The clone said.

"Just let me die, please." the original whispered softly, unable to speak any louder. A tear rolled down his cheek.

A massive ship the size of Jupiter began to move. In ten years, it would reach Milky Way...

It all makes sense now.

So...Tzeentch knows about all this. Do the other three know as well?

Considering she glorified them as well, I would assume they've been watching.
Then again, you know what they say about assuming. :)

Problem is that Khorne intervened to dramatically increase Marvel's power. Specifically, he told Marvel how to stop his spells from self-jinxing. Would be tough to explain if Khorne was working with Tzeentch.

He was keeping a closer on Marvel then. Doesn't mean he can't keep track of more than one thing.

Doesn't explain why he told Marvel how to keep his spells from self-jinxing. WATCHING is one thing; HELPING is another.