NationStates Jolt Archive

Guangzhou, Mei-Dai

Today, The Imperial Goverment Annonce that Mei-Dai will Annex The Island-nation of Taiwan into The Empire. "the Reason is to help with linking The Philppines with The Rest of the Empire" Dietman Xan Goku said, "This will help expand The Empire deeper into The South China Sea."

Already, 12,000 Imperial Troops are heading to Taiwan to help in the Annexing of the Island.

The United States of Pennsylvania Formally Deplores your action, and will deploy troops if neccessary to prevent you from taking away the Independence of Taiwan

To: Mei-Dai Government
From: Office of Foreign Relations, Takaram

Takaram stands with the United States of PA in this, and we are willing to send troops to defend Taiwan. I strongly recommend that you rethink this action.

Cynthia Rose, Chief Foreign Relations Officer, Takaram

To: [Open]
From: Ministry of Silly Walks, Jokes, and War

Ralkovia stands with Mei-Dai on this, and we are willing to send troops to attack Taiwan. I strongly recommend that YOU rethink your action you were thinking of doing if Mei-Dai didn't stop what it plans on doing.

Bjornmeister B.B. Bjornsen, Chief minister of silly walks, jokes, and war, Ralkovia.

(I just saw the oppurtunity to screw with people and undermine their authority so I took it. Now looking back at it I laugh.)

Already, The troops were landing in Taiwan and they had alot of surport.

Before The Vote on Annexing Taiwan, there was a influx of Meiese (what The people of Mei-Dai are called), were entering as Tourists. In fact, they were a Vangaurd of Annexing Taiwan, along with Pro-Meiese Taiwanese. These people fourmed Militias that were to make sure that Taiwan would become a Part of The Mei-Dai Empire. On The Day of Annexing, These rebels soon marched on Taipei, The Capital of Taiwan and Captured all Government buildings and officals. Taiwan was under Rebel control as The Imperial troops came into Taiwan.

OOC: Who RPs as Taiwan...

To: The Government of Mei-Day
From: The office of the Prime Minister, The Grand Duchy of Noordeinde

Sir, Madam,

The Grand Duchy of Noordeinde stands with The United States of PA and Takaram. Stop your militairy actions against Taiwan and it's citizens, otherwise the Grand Duchy of Noordeinde and other joint forces shall intervene and stop your militairy actions ourselves.

Sincerrely Yours,
Jonathan Roosevelt.
Prime Minister
The Grand Duchy of Noordeinde

We of Carnelian Island condemn this imperialistic act by Mei-Dai.

OOC: Who RPs as Taiwan...

OOC: that....................I do not know, I think I will.

ooc: Can I counter Invade Taiwan for my own gains and fight you both?

ooc: Can I counter Invade Taiwan for my own gains and fight you both?

OOC: no

The United Island States condemns Mei-Dai for it's disregard of international etiquette if such exits anymore and for it's imperialistic ambitions.

Just remember the blood that will stain your hands after this is done.

The United States of Pennsylvania Declare war on Mei-Dai, for its disregard of Human rights and International War. May god have mercy on your soul.

To: Government of Mei-Dai
From: Chambers of the Senate, Takaram

We of Takaram condemn your actions, and shall defend the nation of Taiwan. Until such a time as you cease this brutal and unprovoked attack on the nation of Taiwan, a state of war shall exist between our peoples.

David Marshall, High Councilor, Takaram

"Good evening, my fellow Birkanians. As you might know, the imperialist Mei Dai has recently announced plans to annex the nation of Taiwan.
I find this action to be most despicable, not only because of the action itself, but because of the imperialistic manifesto that serves as an excuse for the annexion. "The Reason is to help with linking The Philppines with The Rest of the Empire"... you heard it well, my dear Birkaine, you heard it. I can only wonder what will come next, my fellow citizens. Will they invade our land, our people, so they can link our region with the rest of the empire too? Will they shut off our hopes just to accomplish their own selfish desires?
No, Birkaine... no. As Ivan the Great once said... nations, just like individuals, must be punished for their misdoings. This is one of them, Birkaine! I will not allow a few madmen to deprive an entire people of their freedoms. Consider this as a declaration of war, Mei Dai. In the name of the Birkanian people! Surrender before any side suffers, it is the wisest choice."

High General Viktor Yulianov ended his speech. While the army wasn't being prepared much, a few M-55 spyplanes took off and headed for Mei Dai.

OOC:lol, i dont get to shoot down a M-55, good

IC:

President Andrew Hundley read the News Reports and watched the video on the Declarations of War, already the 8th Fleet

2 CVN-21 Carriers
1 Modernized Iowa
3 Hunter CGMs
24 Zumwalts
8 America Class Amphibs

Carrying the 9 Marine Division (Reserve) to Taiwan to stop the Mei Dai from capturing Taiwan

21,674 Men
354 MBTs
757 IFVs
328 Cannons
507 Helos
323 Jets

Imperial Palace,
Aglorea City,
Capital of the Aglorean Empire

Emperor John Press glanced away from the large windows in his office towards his military advisors. "Estimated troop numbers for the Meiese are roughly 12,000," his Army advisor said, casually. "Naturally, we have no interest in the region, but a successful war is amazing propaganda."

"Right," the Emperor said, smiling. He was fairly unpopular, so he could use the boost. "Move 10,000 soldiers to the area, and prepare an additional 15,000 to follow shortly. And one last thing."

"Yes, sir?"

"Make sure we establish naval and air superiority. Then destroy the enemy forces."

"Of course, Emperor Press." The advisors stood, saluted, and left the room. The Emperor returned to his desk and prepared the international response.


TELEGRAM
To: Mei-Dai, all nations involved
From: Emperor John Press, Aglorean Empire

It is the demand of the Empire that the government of Mei-Dai express all intentions for Taiwan, and reasons for those intentions. If deemed necessary, war will be declared. A lack of response will result in war.

T'blis plugged his transponder into the wall and waved his hand, indicating he desired to watch the news. 3CNB reported on the events in the Pacific. This may be a good opportunity to test the fire power of our new fleet. he thought to himself. However the Korintari people are war weary, will they go along with it? Why of course they will, it is the nature of our people to respond to situations such as these.

To: The government in Mei Dai
From: T'blis Oltavi, Director of International Affairs

Your recent actions are most uncalled for. If you do not cease your agression we will be compelled to unleash our aerial and orbital arsenal on Mei Dai. As a show of force, I have spoken with the Korintari Security Director to deploy our fleet stationed at the cities of Risaba and Tepari. We will arrive in the Pacific within 48 hours and will remain on stand by. If you fire upon us or compell us to leave in any way shape or form, it will be considered an act of war. This is your one and final warning.

"This is captain Leonid Brunev of the battleship BNV Incorruptible. We have been given our orders, gentlemen. We will fight for the Taiwanese redemption and none shall stand upon us!"
The enormous Muteki Nippon (http://wolfsshipyard.mystarship.com/Misc/NeverWeres/Muteki_Nippon.jpg)-class battleship led the formation, which was being fueled up close to Birkanian waters. Several battallions of Marines, still fresh from another conflict, boarded amphibious assault vessels.
"You still have a chance to give up, Mei Dai. Or you will be crushed beneath our glorious might!"

Forces deployed:
-1x Modernized Muteki Nippon-class battleship
-2x Ulyanovsk-class supercarrier
-1x Moskva-class ASW carrier
-2x Modernized Yamato-class battleship
-4x Ambassador-class antiaircraft battleship
-8x Kirov-class battlecruiser
-8x Ticonderoga-class AEGIS battlecruiser
-12x Arleigh Burke-class AEGIS destroyer
-12x LaFayette-class AEGIS frigate
-6x Diligence-class fleet auxiliaries
-4x Wasp-class amphibious assault ship
--8000 Birkanian Marines
-8x Zubr-class LCAC.
-3x Oscar II-class guided missile submarine
-8x Victor III-class submarine
-4x Tatum II-class submersible cruiser

The M-55 started to head towards Mei Dai, to take reconaissance photos of the country.

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The Communist Meritocracy of the Techno-Soviet
The Technocratic Council

To: The Government of Mei-Dai
From: The Technocratic Council

The Communist Meritocracy of the Techno-Soviet officially opposes all imperialism or imperialistic nations for any reason; however this is a special case. Any attempts to invade, attack, destroy or conquer the nation of Mei-Dai's sovereign territory will result in military action being taken against the offending party or parties.

To the Me-Dai Emperor,

We have recieved word of your aggression towards the independent island of Taiwan.

We must insist that you cease and desist in this action, before others decide that they are finished tolerating your existance.

I say others, of course, because we will not be taking part: certain someone's decided it would be funny to sink half our navy. However, it will be noted that should your forces come into contact with ours for any reason, they will be considered hostiles and may be fired on.

Thank you for your aggression.

Sincerely,
Andrew Filie
Generalissimo, FFNAT
C-i-C, FAF

[OOC: Don't look at me.]

The Takaram 3rd Fleet consisting of:

2 Nimitz Class Carriers
16 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
12 Zumwalt Class Destroyers
4 Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships

Along with them, the Takaram Marine Corps 2nd Division will be deployed to prevent the fall of Taiwan

19,000 Men
323 M1 Abrams
734 M2 Bradleys
152 RAH-66 Comanche
203 AH-64 Apache
354 Jets (of various types)

OOC: [*Glares at Northern Baltic.*]

To: The Communist Meritocracy of the Techno-Soviet
From: Office of Defense, Takaram

While I can really only speak for Takaram, we have no plans to invade Mei-Dai unless they shall take action against Takaram soil directly. Our only intention is to defend Taiwan from the imperialistic advances of a larger nation.

General Ronald Strauss, Chief Defense Officer, Takaram

The fleet of seven Garsarian class super carriers could barely squeeze through the Panama Canal, but that was the quickest route to Mei Dai. Oh well, one cannot always have one's way. They were supported by fifteen Lukoniv battleships all armed for battle. These were the most advanced warships Korintar had ever used, generating enough electricity to use experimental railgun technology, but that would probably be overkill as far as the crew were concerned. Besides only half the sailors had any idea how these guns even worked, let alone to operate them. "How far are we," shouted a young man wearing only a white tank top and jean cutoffs. A lady standing right behind him, "First of all you do not have to shout in my ear, secondly we are 560 miles away from both Taiwan and the Phillipines." Suddenly they heard a boom, which rocked the ship for a second. "What the hell was that," cried the lady who was actually the captain of the ship, "Everyone! Baaaatllle Staaaaaations!" Immediately all the weapons were readied and the crew members suited up and siezed their rifles. Slinging their guns on their backs, the sailors all drew their swords to do battle.

OoC: I apologize for the anachronisms...juxtaposing swords with railguns, but oh well, these things happen. Korintaris interpret the right to keep and bear arms as the woman's right to slice somebody's head off with a katana for calling her fat.

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The Communist Meritocracy of the Techno-Soviet
The Technocratic Council

From: The Technocratic Council
To: The Democratic Republic of Takaram

Thus, we shall remain neutral. We have no intentions of starting a war unless we feel the sovereignty of Mei-Dai is threatened.

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Official Communiqué
Alliance of Maritime Nations

To: Chief Defense Officer General Roland Strauss of The Democratic Republic of Takaram
CC: --Open Transmission--
From: Office of President
Subject: Grestonian Condemtion

In the remaining few months of my presidency I have been working double time to end various issues amongst our government and region and to clear up projects that I know, once a new administration steps in, will be dumped. I feel it is my priority, even when my days are numbered of holding the highest seat in the nation a top Capitol Hill, to recognize the rights of foreign nations.

So I took it upon my hands to insure The Imperial Republic of Mei-Dai is not invaded and it's sovereignty breached. The Imperial Republic of Mei-Dai is here on out a member of the Grestonian Commonwealth; any and all decalarations of war up Mei-Dai is a direct attack upon the Imperial Republic and shall be dealt with. The Imperial Republic will be deploying the 14th Army to deal with any assualts on Mei-Dai; 70,000 men strong and led by The Rt. Hon. Field Marshal Lawrence Tonsday, the 14th Army will not let any attacks go unnoticed and undealt with.

So this is a fair warning, this ultimatum stretches to cover all of the nations that have tagetted Mei-Dai or were planning on doing so. No such assualt will be carried out unless the full might of the Imperial Grestonian Infantry Forces is to be brought in.

Sincerly,
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The Rt. Hon. Sir Jerry Striker
President of the Imperial Republic of Greston
Acting President of the Alliance of Maritime Nations

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Official Communiqué
Alliance of Maritime Nations

To: Grand Commander Griffith II of The Fascist Federation of The Grand World Order
CC: --Open Transmission--
From: Office of President
Subject: Grestonian Condemtion

In the remaining few months of my presidency I have been working double time to end various issues amongst our government and region and to clear up projects that I know, once a new administration steps in, will be dumped. I feel it is my priority, even when my days are numbered of holding the highest seat in the nation a top Capitol Hill, to recognize the rights of foreign nations.

So I took it upon my hands to insure The Imperial Republic of Mei-Dai is not invaded and it's sovereignty breached. The Imperial Republic of Mei-Dai is here on out a member of the Grestonian Commonwealth; any and all decalarations of war up Mei-Dai is a direct attack upon the Imperial Republic and shall be dealt with. The Imperial Republic will be deploying the 14th Army to deal with any assualts on Mei-Dai; 70,000 men strong and led by The Rt. Hon. Field Marshal Lawrence Tonsday, the 14th Army will not let any attacks go unnoticed and undealt with.

So this is a fair warning, this ultimatum stretches to cover all of the nations that have tagetted Mei-Dai or were planning on doing so. No such assualt will be carried out unless the full might of the Imperial Grestonian Infantry Forces is to be brought in.

Sincerly,
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The Rt. Hon. Sir Jerry Striker
President of the Imperial Republic of Greston
Acting President of the Alliance of Maritime Nations

To: The Rt. Hon. Sir Jerry Striker
From: Office of Foreign Relations, Takaram

I am afraid there might have been a misunderstanding. There have been no threats made against the sovereignty of Mei-Dai. We are only moving to defend the sovereignty of Taiwan, who has been invaded for no reason other than the imperialist goals of Mei-Dai. We have no intention of attacking Mei-Dai soil unless they attack Takaram first.

Cynthia Rose, Chief Foreign Relations Officer, Takaram

We will Remind Those Western Pigs (other then Greston, who is no Pig) that Taiwan is now a part of The People's Imperial Republic of Mei-Dai and that many people in Taiwan surports our rule of the Island.

So back off.

OOC: I feel like some newb stomping.

Scandinvan Imperial Decree

Let it be known that the Scandinvan Empire shall defend the right of the Imperial Government of Mei-Dai to exercise its sovereign right to exert control over lands that are currently unclaimed. As well, due to the strategic importance of the island of Taiwan it is extremely relevant for the Mei-Dai nation to secure control over the waterways that are so important to her commercial and security interests, which are both key to protecting the welfare of their people and in ensuring the future of the nation.

Further, by decree of the House of Lords and the Emperor of the Glorious Empire of the Scandinvans, we, of the Scandinvan Empire, do fully offer their support in defending the nation of Mei-Dai, and her interest, from the efforts of foreign nations to encroach on the sovereignty of Mei-Dai.

In response to Takarams incursion

To support the anti-expansion of the Mei-Dai into the independent nation of Taiwan the Dictatorship of Crimseia sends 4,000 men to aid Takaram's cause, with the full regards of the Lord Dictator Wilhelm. Any attack on the Free Nation and Crimseias troops will be seen as a declaration of war, and be responded with the full might of the Crimseian military

Sincerely
Prime Minister Francis of the Crimseian Empire.

To: Mei-Dai
From: Office of Foreign Relations, Takaram

The government of Takaram still recognizes Taiwan as a sovereign nation. If the majority of the people support this action, then it should not have been needed in the first place, as they would have voted to join your nation in the first place.

Cynthia Rose, Chief Foreign Relations Officer, Takaram

In response to Takarams incursion

To support the anti-expansion of the Mei-Dai into the independent nation of Taiwan the Dictatorship of Crimseia sends 4,000 men to aid Takaram's cause, with the full regards of the Lord Dictator Wilhelm. Any attack on the Free Nation and Crimseias troops will be seen as a declaration of war, and be responded with the full might of the Crimseian military

Sincerely
Prime Minister Francis of the Crimseian Empire.

ooc: Wait, this isn't my "incursion". This is a joint effort taken by many nations to stop one nation from invading another

ooc: Wait, this isn't my "incursion". This is a joint effort taken by many nations to stop one nation from invading another

Then lets go with that.

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Official Communiqué
Alliance of Maritime Nations

To: Chief Defense Officer General Roland Strauss of The Democratic Republic of Takaram
CC: --Open Transmission--
From: Office of President
Subject: Grestonian Condemtion

Let me remind you, your nation, and your "coalition" that the island of Taiwan is legally and technically a part of Mei-Dai due to Imperial Mandate. To infringe upon their natural rights to this island by landing your forces is a breach of Mei-Dai' sovereignity and therefore, an act of war on both of the Imperial Republics.

My recommendation for all of the affected nations pushing to revoke Mei-Dai's ownership of Taiwan is to pack up your troops and leave before open hostilities begin. End the price of paying for mobilizing your forces to stand up for a lost cause which a whole of two percent of the island suppourts.

This is a final warning, all infringement's and breaches of Mei-Dai's security is a direct assualt on the Imperial Republic and the Grestonian Commonwealth.

Sincerly,
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The Rt. Hon. Sir Jerry Striker
President of the Imperial Republic of Greston
Acting President of the Alliance of Maritime Nations

To: The governments of Mei Dai & New Greston
From: T'blis Oltavi, Director of International Affairs

Either stand down from Taiwan or prepare to find a different link to the Phillipines as we are fully prepared to impose a blockade. Our airforce has been notified to be put on high alert and a bill for declaration of war has passed both the Senate and People's Assembly per request of our Security Director. Furthermore our citizens probably will vote for it, seeing it as quick war to defeat a warmongering imperialist and protecting the sovereignty of an independent state from the harassment of a belligerent state. You have twenty four hours to respond to this message with written confirmation and to proceed, in actuality, to remove your forces from Taiwan or else the consequences will be dire.

As for New Greston, we do not wish war with your nation and refuse to fight you unless your military opens fire upon us. Either Mei Dai will leave peaceably and we can recommend elections for Taiwan to choose its future, and if it is to be part of the Empire, so be it, or we will forceably expell Mei Dai and go on with the above mentioned elections, as the Korintari people believe in self determination, not imperialism.

To: The Rt. Hon. Sir Jerry Striker
President of the Imperial Republic of Greston
From: Office of Defense, Takaram

We do not recognize Mei-Dai control of Taiwan, like many of our allies in this. If Mei-Dai had offered any reason for wanting control of Taiwan other than just wanting to use it as a foothold for further expansion, such as proof of a terrorist attack on Mei-Dai supported by Taiwan's government, then we would not be saying anything. However, Mei-Dei's only goal is further expansion. Because of this, we are only liberating a nation held by a larger nation. And two percent of the population is hardly enough to justify this action.
I do not believe that this is worth our two nations going to war over, but Takaram is not alone in this, and we shall not allow unbridled greed to take hold.

General Ronald Strauss, Chief Defense Officer, Takaram

To T'blis Oltavi
From Her Imperial Majstey, Empress Shang Cixi of Mei-Dai

Taiwan is ours, now and for ever. also, I will state that We are under Grestonian Protection and we will ally with them. I think you should turn your fleets back or you will never see another sunrise again.

OOC: Who RPs as Taiwan...

((OOC: Hataria would. In fact, he is.))

[OOC: It is Greston, it says that every where, no New in my name]

((OOC: Hataria would. In fact, he is.))

OOC: House of lies!

OOC: House of lies!

OOC: Losing me here people, where is our Taiwan player?

[OOC: It is Greston, it says that every where, no New in my name]

OoC: Sorry 'bout that, since the nation identifier side bar said New Greston, I assumed that, um well...I guess that shows what happens when one assumes:rolleyes:

OOC: I will post soon.

OOC: Link to my Military: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14638043&postcount=16

where is our Taiwan player?

ooc there isn't one and is there not a shit load of Taiwans around own by many others

OOC: Link to my Military: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14638043&postcount=16

(Very Nice, I'd make my own, but I honestly prefer to play a diplomatic role, that's why I'm usually playing support, lending loans and troops.)

OOC: Before someone starts nuking my fleet, gotta say that my post in page 2 was a listing post, not a deployment post. The ships are still being fueled and loaded in my territory. However, the spyplanes DID fly out of their bases.

bump

OOC: And you haven't responded to those spyplanes, by the way...

I will Reply soon

The intel on Mei Dai's imperial forces had arrived to Cheri Konstado. Reading it, she started laughing, "There is no way a nation that small can face off against a titan like us. We could have more ships, air vehicles, and personnel on the ground in the area than they have citizens! The only way they could beat us is by using nuclear weapons..." At this, the great general paused, knowing full well how many nations had WMD's in the world or at least have been suspected. So she said, "Computre, sivu contact KMSS Atenou's chief commanders." Immediately the vissers appeared on screen: Kiro, What appears to be the problem, madam general?
Cheri: I give you two orders, one is to investigate Mei Dai's nuclear capabilities. Second is to remain on stand by in case the empire tries to launch a nuclear strike.
Atenou: should we launch a counter strike if this happens?
Cheri: Yes, if they wish to turn us into plate glass, we will respond in kind.
Atenou: consider it done madam!
*screen goes black*
Meanwhile, along the Taiwanese coast, the Korintari Navy sited the Mei Dai People's Imperial Navy. They need not be worried for they had significant protection from above that could annihilate some navies.

To: Mei Dai Fleet
From: Korintari Fleet

Do you wish to surrender peaceably, or must we take you by force?

To:The Government of Mei-Dai
From: The Department of Defense, The Grand Duchy of Noordeinde.

My Government already warned you about the consequences if you wouldn't stop your militairy actions against the sovereign state of Taiwan, therefor I gave order to the pacific Squadron to intervene and fight with the joint forces of The United States of PA and Takaram against the Mei-Dai militairy,

The NCIA, the Noordeinde Central intelligence Agency, in cooperation with the Noordeinde Airforce will increase operations on Taiwan and Mei-Dai. And I can report to you that several Lockheed U2 (http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~gpollock/The%20Advent,%20Evolution,%20and%20New%20Horizons%20of%20United%20States%20Stealth%20Aircraft_files/image004.jpg) High-altitude surveillance jets just took off. To support Joint Forces on the ground with the information they need to defeat Mei-Dai troops

Yours,
Collin Powel
Secretary of Defense
The Grand Duchy of Noordeinde.

highest encryption
To: Comrade Powel of Noordeinde
From: Comrades Oltavi, Salazar, and Konstado

Our armed forces are in the region. If you need any assistance, our airforce could turn Mei-Dai into a parking lot within two minutes. The navy is positioning itself into a blockade around Taiwan as we speak, as well as attempting to shell the Mei-Dai ports on the mainland.
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The Korintari warships proceeded to take action to secure the ports. Now it was time to test the big guns. As the guns were raised up, the engine team was quickly increasing the output by introducing ionized hydrogen gas at an ever quicker rate and applying more pressure to the pistons, thus generating enough electricity to make the coils and rails white hot. The five 10 kg slugs were loaded into the guns. "How many megajoules," cried one of sailors loading the munitions. "150," said another coming up from the engine deck, "commence firing at will." A series of sonic booms resonated throughout the area as the slugs exited the gun all in one minute traveling at Mach 2.4 to their target. The crew kept their fingers crossed, watching and waiting to see the response of the Mei-Dai Navy. Meanwhile, one supercarrier that was 300 miles from the Mei-Dai coast tested out its guns, with the hopes of taking out the ports.

OoC: Mei-Dai, respond when you feel ready, even though some of our weaponry is entering the PMT range, it is experimental and the Korintari Navy not sure if it will even work. The only reason they have this weaponry was that the old, outdated, navy was destroyed in the previous war, so the military decided to use the most advanced technology to their disposal. I think I explained these things in my factbook.

The Korintar Fleet soon had a message back

Leave OUR Territory Now!

That was all they sent. As for the Meiese Fleet, It was more made of Cargoships and Troop Transports.

The Imperial Navy had not shown up yet.

The Imperial Military and Government soon sent a message to The Grestonian, asking for help.

To: Mei-Dai Navy
From: Korintar Navy

Combat operations will now commence in full.
highest encryption
To: Cheri Konstado & KMSS Atenou
From: Pacific Fleet

Operation Liberation is underway, send reinforcements. We recommend natikodi involvement, as they are in the perfect position to decimate Mei-Dai's infrastructure.

response; encrypted

Help is on the way, war has been formally declared, and the Wartime Economic Authority Referendum is in full effect. Fyi, send a broacast to the Mei-Dai Navy a little public service message from the Korintari Navy which includes the song Indestructible, that should give them the right idea...surrender or else!

OoC: Mei-Dai, I would post a link to Disturbed's song Indestructible, but I cannot remember the exact URL. I know it is on Youtube, I recommend you listen to it before you post next as it is not only a great song...it gives you an idea of what could be considered an appropriate IC response;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSF2i0rU_Q8

OoC: Thank you very much! Here's a double chocolate chip cookie, Imperial isa. *hands cookie*

OOC to all: Well, let's make this a war of strategies and not numbers please. Anybody with me?

"Another glorious day in the Birkanian Navy" captain Brunev said as the propellers started to move. The Incorruptible and the following battlegroup finally departed from Birkanian waters at full speed. Their orders were to eradicate the Meidainese navy before the assault ships began landing operations.
Meanwhile, the Birkanian spyplane arrived over Mei Dai, and started taking reconaissance photos.

OOC to all: Well, let's make this a war of strategies and not numbers please. Anybody with me?

"Another glorious day in the Birkanian Navy" captain Brunev said as the propellers started to move. The Incorruptible and the following battlegroup finally departed from Birkanian waters at full speed. Their orders were to eradicate the Meidainese navy before the assault ships began landing operations.
Meanwhile, the Birkanian spyplane arrived over Mei Dai, and started taking reconaissance photos.

OOC: I have already landed. Do I have to show ALL my posts I did?

OoC: okay. fyi, graphite torpedoes= graphite bombs w/ delivery method appropriate for orbital weapons systems to use

IC: The KMSS Hellfire, 500 miles above Mei-Dai, proceeded to lock in on the capital. Three graphite torpedoes were fired upon the capital with the hopes of rendering its communications systems worthless.

OOC: I have already landed. Do I have to show ALL my posts I did?
OOC: I referred to MY assault ships.

[OOC: Koritar, I hope you are well aware that to reach Taiwan you have to pass Grestonian fleets. Seeing that I have had a pact with Mei-Dai for a while which included his protection a military access it would only make sense that my troops would be there first. At this moment the Grestonian fleet it forming up a some what of a blockade around Taiwan, only for the annexation, to get near Meianese forces you would have to pass by me. And we won't be firing.]

The Meiese were getting ready to renforce their Army on Taiwan, with 20,000 More Troops and Artillery for protecting the territory from Invasion. This force would handle any invader and help in the defense.

Seeing the troops being deployed to reinforce their territory overseas with the spyplanes, the admiral of the fleet ordered the Victor-class submarines to submerge, scatter and start hunting for troop transport vessels once they arrived to disrupt Meidainese logistics. The rest of the battlegroup started fueling up their naval aircraft and setting up their long-range radars.

Imperial Palace,
Aglorea City,
Capital of the Aglorean Empire

Emperor John Press looked over the sequence of events. Taiwan had collapsed without much of a fight, so they seemed not to want to be "liberated." Any attempt to do so was likely to result in a long occupation in the country that would result in more losses than gains. It is for that reason that Press had reorganized his previous orders, and sent a new telegram to Mei-Dai:

TELEGRAM
To: Leadership of Mei-Dai
From: Emperor John Press, Empire of Aglorea

After recent recalculations, it has been determined that it would be more benificial to side with you. The Empire will remain neutral, but if a deal of trade of goods can be reached, then several thousand Aglorean infantry will be moved to Taiwan to aid in the defense of the island. This offer is only availible for 24 hours, so please respond quickly.

OOC: Newb stomping time! Oh sh*t I'm a n00b......

To: [Open]
From: The External Affairs Office of the North German State

The Confederation of the North German State will officially condemn any act of war. If we feel that our sovereignty is in anyway breached, we shall intervene. Until then, we can only send a small Military Police force to Mei-Dai UNDER the North German flag. http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/the_north_german_state__3.jpg Please respond with your acceptance or your rejection.

[OOC: Koritar, I hope you are well aware that to reach Taiwan you have to pass Grestonian fleets. Seeing that I have had a pact with Mei-Dai for a while which included his protection a military access it would only make sense that my troops would be there first. At this moment the Grestonian fleet it forming up a some what of a blockade around Taiwan, only for the annexation, to get near Meianese forces you would have to pass by me. And we won't be firing.]

OoC: okay, fair enough. thanks for letting me know!

IC: The fleet noticed the Grestonian Navy. As a result the following missive was sent:
To: Grestonian High Naval Command
From: Korintari Security Directorate

Our fleet is under orders only to battle Meianese forces if offered any resistance. We do not wish war with you, so we respectfully request that you cease and desist from further operations in the vicinity of Taiwan. Failure to do so will result in the grave consequences of a path neither us, we assume, find desirous to go down.

Luckily, a few of the smaller ships found gaps in the defenses erected by the Grestonians and, stealthily as possible, slipped between them to attempt to cut off the Meianese government from its expansionist desires.

Meanwhile, Cheri Konstado boarded a small spacecraft to go to the KMSS (OoC note:Korintari Military Space Station, in case anyone is still confused; the military funds the space program, thus fortifications in space, back to the show!) Sezadu to direct the war personally. She buckled the safety harness in place and placed her sabre at the side. After she did this, General Konstado produced her transponder and activated the wireless link to email the following to the space station:
This is General Konstado, I will be there in two hours.

The airforce now took to the skies to conduct bombing raids against Mei-Dai, and the transports went up to 14000 metres in the air, and proceeded to prepare for any resistance that the soldiers may face. The militias and national army donned WMD protection gear, loaded their machine guns, adjusted their parachutes, sharpened their sabres and prepared to jump. Soon the sky would fill with thousands of black dots in the air, a rain of hell upon any Meianese soldiers that may be in Taiwan.

The ships finally neared Taiwanese waters.

"This is admiral Leonid Brunev of the Birkanian Navy, to all Grestonian naval forces. We do not wish to confront you. We will pass trough your forces, do not fire upon us, any hostility will result in direct actions"

Several P-1154 (http://www.harrier.org.uk/history/images/1154col.jpg) supersonic harriers were elevated into the flight deck on the rear of the Incorruptible and prepared for takeoff to initiate air patrol. While the aircraft carriers prepared their own aircraft, some took to the skies earlier, such as four KS-3s and one E-2, to keep the Birkanian aircraft operative.

The Democratic Republic of Anheneever strongly urges you to rethignk your action in annexing Taiwan, wi will deploy our battle group from the Western Pacific to Taiwan in order to ensure you do not proceed beyond territorial waters. Think TWICE dear sire ,as consequences will be severe

The Democratic Republic of Anheneever strongly urges you to rethignk your action in annexing Taiwan, wi will deploy our battle group from the Western Pacific to Taiwan in order to ensure you do not proceed beyond territorial waters. Think TWICE dear sire ,as consequences will be severe

OOC: You don't even have a defence budget.

OOC: Epic fail

OOC: Maybe I should RP Taiwan :p. Considering I live on it.

Convoy Victor Six-Four
100 nautical miles east of Taiwan

The convoy, three container ships under the charge of the heavy cruiser Formidable had departed the Tolvanic Hainac Islands four days ago and was nearing its destination. The merchies were loaded with a myriad of prodcuts for the Taiwanese market and the Royal Navy had decided to send along an escort to make sure the vessels reached their destination unmolested. The Commonwealth took no interest in who controlled Taiwan and who thought it necessary to fight over the island, however it did take interest in the ability of the Tolvanic Merchant Marine to travel the seas freely.

*OFFICIAL COMMUNIQUE*

TO: All Parties Operating Off Taiwan
FROM: Admiral Lord Harold Vargas (Ninth Duke of Weston), Commander - Fourth Fleet, Royal Tolvanic Navy

RE: Tolvanic Shipping

The Commonwealth of Tolvan takes no interest in the conflict brewing in regards to the Mei-Dai annexation of Taiwan. However, be advised that Tolvanic flagged merchant vessels frequently transit the waters off Taiwan in the company of the Royal Navy. Any attempt to deny them passage into Taiwanese waters for the purposes of off-loading cargo will be dealt with strongly.

OOC: Maybe I should RP Taiwan :p. Considering I live on it.

OOC: that would be good :)

OOC: Korintar; Spaceships? Railguns? That is Stupid. I am NOT PMT! Also, I am Getting Pissed at what you are doing, Namely Passing by Greston's Fleet like it was Not There!

That, sir, is GODMODING!

The main force of fleet followed the submarines into Taiwanese territorial waters in a loose formation. The submarines themselves had been ordered to submerge and attack enemy shipping. One of the submarines started to follow a transport convoy to try to determine what it was carrying.

Meanwhile, the VLS tubes of several Ticonderoga-class cruisers opened, and they readied their Tomahawk cruise missiles to fire aganist Taiwanese ports.

The "Alliance" as it was called by The Meiese was soon getting in bigger trouble as The People of Mei-Dai soon started Joining The Military to fight The "Western Pigs", while Anti-Alliance Protests were staged, with People burning The flags of the allied nations.

In Hanoi, Vietnam Provence, a Play was a large hit, known as Prince Haien and The evil Boar of Night in which a Prince went out to save a Princess named Wan from a Monster Boar with the name Birkai, who raped and ate princesses. with the help of a Tiger, he kills Birkai and marries the Princess Wan.

In Hong Kong, More Ships for the Navy was being built to make sure that The enemy would soon face a Strong Nation and run back to their hellholes.

"All hands, prepare for preliminary bombardment and proceed to your battle stations. Misery upon them, sons of Birkaine!" The captain of the Incorruptible said. The cruisers started firing volleys of Tomahawk cruise missiles towards the important Taiwanese ports. Air superiority fighters took off to provide cover for the fleet, that kept advancing towards the gap between Mei Dai and Taiwan.
"We shall prevail, comrades!"
Once an initial volley had been fired, a second group of cruise missiles was fired from the Kirovs, directed at Meiese coastal cities, and the entire fleet started to move towards Mei Dai, but the hunter-killer submarines kept their original course.

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The Communist Meritocracy of the Techno-Soviet
The Technocratic Council

The Communist Meritocracy has decided to deploy the 4th, 3rd, 1st, and 8th fleets to defend the nation of Mei-Dai. They have orders to not participate in the Taiwan conflict, unless it extends to the Meiese homeland. If any naval forces should fire on our fleet it will be deemed an act of war and we will respond as such.

The fleets shall hold their position in the international waters and just outside the territorial waters of Mei-Dai, unless otherwise requested by the Meiese government.


Naval ORBAT 4th, 3rd, 1st, and 8th Fleets:

- 2x Norad-class Superbattleships
- 4x Gerald R. Ford-class Supercarriers
- 6x Ark Angel-class carriers
- 12x Zumwalt-class DDGs
- 6x Xero-class CGNs
- 16x Arleigh-Burke-class DDGs
- 6x Ticonderoga-class CGNs
- 12x LaFeyette-class FFGs
- 12x Type-212 SSKs
- 16x Shadow Harbor-class LPDs
- 48x LCACs
- 89,600 TSMC Marines
- 32x Supply-class AOE-Ts

Fleet Air Wing:

- 60x F-35B Lightning IIs
- 456x F-35C Lightning IIs
- 40x E/A-18G Growlers
- 80x F/A-18F Super Hornets
- 48x AH-1Z Cobras
- 36x MV-22 Ospreys
- 64x CH-53 Sea Stallions
- 32x SH-60 Seahawks

OOC:
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Come on.
Didn't I propose that we should avoid number wars? Seriously. I don't think a country your size could afford a navy that enormous:
8 fleets = 513 vessels
24 fleets = 1539 vessels?

OOC: Still, try to cut that number to something reasonable, something we can all play with. I doubt your def budget can even afford that ammount of ships.

OOC: oy

OOC: Korintar; Spaceships? Railguns? That is Stupid. I am NOT PMT! Also, I am Getting Pissed at what you are doing, Namely Passing by Greston's Fleet like it was Not There!

That, sir, is GODMODING!

OoC: I sincerely apologize. I will take my leave. I will think through things more carefully next time.

OOC: I would not mind at all if you people stopped ignoring my posts.

OOC: I reduced it to around 31 vessels per fleet, not counting the LCACs. =\

OOC: Wasn't referring to you. I've been firing cruise missiles at Mei Dai for like 10 posts and nobody seemed to notice

OOC: you are going too fast for me!

OOC: Greston is in Bed, so can we wait until he gets back on to continue?

OOC: So we're basically barred from contuing until he comes back <_<

OOC: If no one objects, I'll be RPing Taiwan.

OOC: If no one objects, I'll be RPing Taiwan.

OOC: no one is Objecting, so it is ok :)

OOC: I hate to mention it, but could I get a response to my last post?

[OOC: You can't be serious, Birkaine. Can you write a book without a main charachter? Also, at this point it is impossible to reach Taiwan seeing as I have essentially set up a blockade that stops you guys from coming in. Unless you fire at me, you're not getting through.]

IC:

Grestonian Fleet, GMNS Formosa
Taiwan Territorial Water, South China Sea

"Let them make the first move," Admiral James Corone had told his missions board of heads. And they had. Admiral Corone was the same man that had backed up the Gibraltar from the Ryouese and captured upwards to one million prisoners of war from the fleet he sunk using only two volleys.

He was no longer the Commadore of the First Generation Irondeck class battleships, rather the Commadore of a Second Generation Seastabber; not every one could command a Davidson superdreadnought he would reference to the mighty Admiral Cradock every once and a while.

Upon the steel table of the Command Deck of the ship was figure map of the battle, with enemy positions shown with red pieces and allied pieces shown in green, blue in the case of the Grestonians. Corone had studied the map extremely vigilantly and was surprised at the amount of money such small nations would throw away upon a mission that was essentially useless.

It came as no surprise when over the radios of the fleet, an alarm started sounding and in a cold, melancholy, metronome voice an alarm rose, "Birkaine fleet has fired upon Meiese Taiwan, evassive actions are to be taken."

Corone broke into a cold sweat, it was the first battle he had entered in over two years and he was not willing to risk it. But as he looked out the side an enemy fighter went up in flames from Meiese reply volleys.

As the missiles rained down from the sky, the flak cannons and anti-missile systems within the fleet flared up. With a larger deployment of ships than there was missiles being fired, the threat was quickly secured. However quite a few missiles did get past the defense and at least a 1,000 of the enemy missiles were purposely let through for the Meiese to shoot down. The fleet then pushed force, a volley of 10,000 BrahMos being aimed at the enemy fleet. Whilst the smoke rose from the fleet installations, anti-air guns were clogging the sky with missiles aimed at taking down the Birkaine "Air Superiority".

The CIWS systems were working double time to slow down advancing missile volleys and enemy air craft, also to cause enough of a distraction. As the missiles tubes were reloaded a second volley of 6,000 Moskit missiles, Moskits which travelled at a Mach 5 speed and were essentially unstoppable once launched, were aimed at enemy troop transport ships as well as the ship identified as the Incorruptible.

The pilots of the Grestonian Air Command Base in Taiwan finished fitting their helmets and launched off. The pilots rode the most sleek, effecient, and reliable planes in the Grestonian Air Command, B2 Spirit Stealth Bombers. They hadn't need to circle and wait, making it harder to be spotted and they swooshed in towards the enemy fleet to unload a payload with an ordinance of 4,000 pounds of dumb explosives.

The second round of B2 Spirit Stealth Bombers, six in all, carried an ordinance with a much deadlier payload. They were going to make a delivery of napalm upon the decks of the ships, burning the deck alive and ending the life of any crew member on deck, which was any one manning a weapon system. The entire fleet waited with baited breathe for the out come of the bombings.

[OOC2: Wow, I just checked and you are under the impression that Mei-Dai has even't landed on Taiwan yet. He has had it for a while and to even get near his reinforcing fleet you'd have to pass through my fleet.]

OOC: no, no. I sent the submarines, I say again, to disrupt the trade between Mei Dai and Taiwan. And how did you get that close to my fleet to fire at my aircraft with guns? I never said I passed trough your fleet, I just said I redirected mine to attack Mei Dai instead of taiwan. How did the B-2s went undetected and unengaged?

The Meiese had their loses of the Attack. 190 Military and 1,200 Civilian as the enemy attacked. Panic rose in Taiwan and now it was all out war.

The Meiese were also soon sending out a few of their destroyers, ready for a new fight, as they were now to hunt enemy Submarines, if theer were any.

OOC: no, no. I sent the submarines, I say again, to disrupt the trade between Mei Dai and Taiwan. And how did you get that close to my fleet to fire at my aircraft with guns? I never said I passed trough your fleet, I just said I redirected mine to attack Mei Dai instead of taiwan. How did the B-2s went undetected and unengaged?

[OOC: Lol wut, still to get to Mei-Dai altogether you have to pass me, Mei-Dai is essentially a part of my country, and unless you respond to my post your attacks are invalid. As for the B2's, seeing as they are a stealth vehichle and seeing as you have a much smaller defense budget then I do, there would be enough technology there to get them close enough to fire. That is why you reply, you counteract what I did, you RP shooting at them taking one or two down perhaps.

As for your air craft being close enough for me to shoot it with guns, "gun" was originally the word the massive systems on the fleets that are shooting these cruise missiles, but seeing as you probably got all of your military equipment from Call of Duty you wouldn't know. And their is quite a long range distance that these guns can fire. My post is entirely valid.

Once again, those planes would have to flow above my fleet to get near Mei-Dai or Taiwan.]

OOC: what planes are you talking about? I didn't send any

"We've got multiple contacts coming in, anti ship missiles!" The radar operator of one of the antiaircraft battleships said, and the command quickly passed on to the Incorruptible
"Rudder medium left for all ships, flank speed, ECM at maximum" He said. The ships started to increase their speed and coordinately started to turn to port side. Then, the vessels started to jam GPS datalink signals to neutralize the BrahMos missiles, although this had no effect on the Moskits. However, several volleys of S-500 long range missiles and Tor anti-munitions missiles where fired upon the Moskits, and the CIWS prepared to engage the ones that would get trough.

OOC: The B-2 can be detected by modern broad wavelenght radars at long range, and those antiaircraft battleships aren't just for decoration.

[OOC: Lol, and no casualties what so ever? I surprise attack you, send out MASSIVE volleys of missiles and drop ordinances on your ships and no dies? You got to be kidding me. Seeing that almost a quarter of my entire budget goes to my military, there has been advances on counter RADAR systems, you're not going to see my B2's until they start hitting you.]

OOC: They're still in the air. I said I shot missiles at the Moskits, since I used basic EW on the BrahMos. Once you tell me how many missiles got trough the counter-missile barrage, I'll have them enter terminal and hit my ships.

Also, you still haven't said how did the B-2s went unnoticed.

[OOC: That's not what happens, I don't say how many got through, you pick the reasonable amount and take losses. And I have said twice now how the B2's got through, numerous RADAR jammers and frequency jammers are launched, the fact that the B2 is a stealth plane and is extremely hard to pick up frequencies on IRL. You aren't going to see them the second they went up.]

The pilots of the Grestonian Air Command Base in Taiwan finished fitting their helmets and launched off. The pilots rode the most sleek, effecient, and reliable planes in the Grestonian Air Command, B2 Spirit Stealth Bombers. They hadn't need to circle and wait, making it harder to be spotted and they swooshed in towards the enemy fleet to unload a payload with an ordinance of 4,000 pounds of dumb explosives.

The second round of B2 Spirit Stealth Bombers, six in all, carried an ordinance with a much deadlier payload. They were going to make a delivery of napalm upon the decks of the ships, burning the deck alive and ending the life of any crew member on deck, which was any one manning a weapon system. The entire fleet waited with baited breathe for the out come of the bombings.

OOC: I don't see jamming mentioned in there. (oh, and most systems in a modern ship are remotely operated, by the way. And yeah, the Muteki Nippon is a modernized version of it...). Also, stealth in the mm band of common radars is worthless aganist larger wavelenghts. As for the budget thing, a B-2 is still a B-2 no matter the defense budget. You can't make it stealthier than it already is... Oh, and I wonder what the CoD equipment is.

The first bombs hit directly and sank two Ticonderogas, a LaFayette and two Kirovs. An Arleigh Burke was hit below the water line, and its speed was reduced. However, the B-2s had revealed their position to pretty much every type of radar when they dropped the bombs, and so they had S-300PMU SAMs fired on them, guided with assistance from the ship.
A squadron of Hy-13 air superiority naval fighters started to go on an interception course towards the second group of B-2s.

<<Mei-Dai, what time of the planetary rotation is this taking place in? Daytime or nighttime?>>

OOC: more fighting, less talking :)

OOC: near Morning

OOC: And by the way, Moskits travel at mach 2.5-3.0, not mach 5.

Two submarines regrouped and started scanning for any enemy ship nearby. They were the first ti stumble upon the Meiese destroyers, although they tried to sneak past them to continue their way to the ports.

The fleet started to go towards their enemies, and the main guns of the A and B turrets of the Incorruptible fired upon enemy missile cruisers on a high angle. The shells sprouted several small fins from them, and the Birkanian fleet started to guide them into their targets, so that every shot of the massive rocket-assisted 20" guns counted.

Grestonian Fleet, GMNS Formosa
Taiwan Territorial Water, South China Sea

"Hit!"

The crew radiated with cheer as three enemy ships were destroyed and one disabled. The cruise missiles were taken another go at. Ten thousand Moskits were launched from the fleet aimed at the Incorruptible and enemy troop transports. The flak cannons pounded as enemy missiles came inbound, knocking some off course. However, no matter how much counter systems deployed, one Irondeck First Generation was sunk and another disabled.

In reply, 17,000 Tomahawks were launched, from inland installations and the fleet itself. Various frequencie jammers and RADAR jammers were launched, knocking off the frequencies within the enemy fleet.

Eurofighter Typhoon F2's launched off the base, twenty in all, to help suppourt the B2 Spirits. Two had confirmed casualties were reported as one had it's left wing clipped off and another torn in half from an enemy S-300PMU SAM. The Eurofighter's quickly ate up the distance between the second group of B2s and the enemy Hy-13's.

As they came close enough to engage they fired seven rounds from their 27 mm Mauser BK-27 cannons. Targeting the Hy-13's with their AIM-132 ASRAAM's, their locked on and fired, carrying through with the kill by firing a single AIM-120 AMRAAM at the enemy Hy-13's.

Whilst the ensueing air battle, another volley of 6,000 Moskits were launched at the anti-aircraft ships that the Birkaine Naval Outfit boasted.

The Birkanian fleet continued jamming the enemy target update datalinks that kept the Tomahawks on their course, effectively neutralizing ten thousand missiles. However, the Moskits kept going trough their targets.
Seeing they were targeted aganist the flagship, the AEGIS destroyers and frigates were told via light signaling to change to a new formation, heading away from the Incorruptible and then setting up a multi-layered anti-missile defense that would knock down the Moskits. The CIWS continued mowing down the onslaught of missiles, but some inevitably got trough. One of them was destroyed by the Incorruptible's missile launchers, but missile fragmentation hit the ship's starboard side and knocked down several CIWSs. The second one hit in the middle of the ship, blowing a large hole on the ship and crippling its speed.
The same tactic was adopted by the antiaircraft battleships. While one of the battleships fired its S-500s at the enemy planes attacking the Hy-13 squadron, the rest of the AA battleships along with several AEGIS vessels and Kirovs helped covering them. While this proved effective, the missile fragmentation destroyed an Arleigh Burke and knocked down the sensors of another one. The Incorruptible kept firing its guns, but now they had to be fired optically due to jamming. To compensate for the lack of accuracy, the Yamato-class ships also started firing on the enemy.

The Hy-13s broke formation and activated their ALQ-99 electronic countermeasure pods to distract the missiles, but one of them was shot down by gunfire. The rest ignited their afterburners and fired a couple AA-11B missiles at the enemy bombers.

[OOC:

"The Birkanian fleet continued jamming the enemy target update datalinks that kept the Tomahawks on their course, effectively neutralizing ten thousand missiles."

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That doesn't happen. It is impossible to throw all ten thousand missiles off course, that would be a logistical nightmare and at that, impossible. First off my datalinks aren't going to be all in one place and that easy to jam, else every one in NS would go around doing that and never would a single missile go by. If you continue god moding like that I'll have to ignore your presence in this RP.]

[OOC:

"The Birkanian fleet continued jamming the enemy target update datalinks that kept the Tomahawks on their course, effectively neutralizing ten thousand missiles."

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That doesn't happen. It is impossible to throw all ten thousand missiles off course, that would be a logistical nightmare and at that, impossible. First off my datalinks aren't going to be all in one place and that easy to jam, else every one in NS would go around doing that and never would a single missile go by. If you continue god moding like that I'll have to ignore your presence in this RP.]

<<OOC: So says the godmodder.>>

OOC: You don't need to jam every single missile separately, but all of them at once. Tomahawks are meant to hit static targets, that's why they are guided by GPS. You program coordinates, and then it goes there and explodes. However, to track moving targets (i.e. ships), it needs either an UAV or a satellite to constantly update the coordinates, and remind the missiles of where their targets are (via a transmission called datalink). If you jam the GPS frequency signals used by the Tomahawks to update their course, ALL of them become blind.
That kind of explains why the Tomahawk isn't even an anti-ship missile in the first place.

[OOC: Ten thousand missiles shot off in the same direction are going to hit something, and with targets large as a ship in the formation of a fleet, they are going to land, maybe just not on their intended target. Ten thousand missiles aren't just going to be neutralized so easily.]

OOC: considering the fleet is moving, don't think so. They're gonna hit behind the fleet; considering that a) the tomahawk goes at the speed of slow and b) you fired them from ground installations and that c)the fleet is going at flank speed. Besides, even if they did hit the ships they wouldn't explode in full force, since they have no contact fuze and their GPS guidance is dead.
Besides, even if some did make it somehow, do you think a straight-flying, non-maneuvering, low-speed missile would be a challenge for any modern CIWS system?

OOC: Have you considered the possibility that you don't know the frequency used to guide his missiles, or that they perhaps do not use the same frequency for all 10,000?

OOC: I have more than enough ships to jam the range of frequencies used by GPS.

OOC: It's not like GPS is restricted to any set of frequencies. It's just a system. The satellites can broadcast at whatever frequency they please, as restricted by hardware, and that data can be rebroadcast by ground systems at an even wider range of frequencies.

Unless you plan on nuking your ships, and thereby completely destroying the missiles' electronics with the electromagnetic pulse, the is no way in hell you can stop 10,000 missiles with preprogrammed coordinates.

OOC: There's a determined ammount of frequencies for military GPS datalink transmission if I'm not mistaken. I'll look for it. Then again, one jammer can crap up a huge ammount of transmissions.

OOC: No, there's not. At least not in NS anyway. Anyone can broadcast at whatever frequency they please.

OOC: Well, even if he had his own GPS frequency (which I can detect, but not decrypt) I could still jam the range of frequencies usable by the Tomahawk.

Besides, what's with all the discussion? I mean... okay, tomahawks didn't work, it's not my fault they didn't design them with AShM role in mind and are dependant on ECM-vulnerable transmissions. Can you get back to the battle, Greston?

[OOC: Not until you recognize that it is impossible for the 10,000 missiles to have been neutralized. To keep it up is bullshit and I have plenty of people to back me up on it.]

|OOC: Nothing is impossible.|

OOC: No, there's not. At least not in NS anyway. Anyone can broadcast at whatever frequency they please.

|OOC: Forgot the terminology, but I believe it's call wide-band jamming, or something like that... off to wikipedia!!
Barrage Jamming: (bsc.) Jam a lot of frequencies, but it's weaker on all frequencies.
Base Jamming: (bsc.) Be a bully to one RADAR and jam ALL its frequencies, so now it's knocked out [Effectively speaking, as long as the base jamming keeps up, I know it's obvious but there's people who think they're cool and try to pick out shit that should be common sense.). (adn.) Of course the more Jammers you have, the more enemy RADAR systems you can base jam.|

[OOC: Not until you recognize that it is impossible for the 10,000 missiles to have been neutralized. To keep it up is bullshit and I have plenty of people to back me up on it.]
OOC: While you're at it, how did you jam the frequency my guided shells were using? And firing more missiles doesn't make them less vulnerable to ECM, you know.

Seriously, is a near miss or an underwater hit on a cruiser enough for you to continue?

[OOC: You getting rid of this jammer nonsense that none of the Tomahawks are ever going to hit is all I'll take.]

((OOC: Tomahawks are pre-programmed... jamming GPS just means you'll make it harder for Greston to tell them where to go. However, once they're in the air, the only hope you really have is CIWS.))

OOC: I didn't create electronic warfare, you know? If you so want to hit me then launch actual anti-ship missiles with guidance systems up to the task.

((OOC: Tomahawks are pre-programmed... jamming GPS just means you'll make it harder for Greston to tell them where to go. However, once they're in the air, the only hope you really have is CIWS.))
They need to be updated to track moving targets. Pre-set only works for static targets.

|OOC: You know if you RPed (I know, it's a secret, don't tell anyone!!) fighting the jammers with um... lemme think... your own jammers, then you could be more justified. Plus, since I haven't read anything in this thread, I just hate missile spamzzz, if a group of seven missiles that are RADAR guided are packed together and are flying towards a ship, when it launches it's flak a lot more are going to be thrown of, then lets say... launching waves of missiles until there's flak dispensers run out. Furthermore, with gun you don't have that little electronic warfare going on ;-) fyi.|

((OOC: Tomahawks are pre-programmed... jamming GPS just means you'll make it harder for Greston to tell them where to go. However, once they're in the air, the only hope you really have is CIWS.))
WARNING ABOVE IS LULZ IGNORANT

If tomahawks were pre-programmed you know what the solution would be? Move the ship. And CIWS, lulz. CIWS is like trying to beat of flies with a napkin, you guna get sum of those bitches, but if you're outza spray and ur fly swatters snapped in half, then ur fukdz.

OOC: I don't pretend to know all about technology, especially in MT, but if we can't do that in real life, this IS MT after all, then it won't happen here. A simple jammer defeating 10,000 missiles is not going to work. Do something else or have this thread be condemned to OOC hell for doing something as ridiculous as this. Even if it could work, it doesn't mean it SHOULD be done. There is such a thing as player courtesy. I know some people could do stuff but don't, to be fair and such.

OOC: We already discussed how barrage jamming can neutralize tomahawks. Besides, I thought it'd be an adequate response to missile spamming. If no one hasn't noticed I'm losing.

OOC: I don't pretend to know all about technology, especially in MT, but if we can't do that in real life, this IS MT after all, then it won't happen here. A simple jammer defeating 10,000 missiles is not going to work. Do something else or have this thread be condemned to OOC hell for doing something as ridiculous as this. Even if it could work, it doesn't mean it SHOULD be done. There is such a thing as player courtesy. I know some people could do stuff but don't, to be fair and such.

|OOC: Neither do I, but I believe it's every man's duty to educate the populace, hell if you don't believe me, then I IMPLORE you to do your own research, then again a large chunk of you won't, so either believe me or not, I'm not going to waste my time giving you sources. Also, a single jammer will do almost nothing, however en masse as they're mostly intended to be used it does work, and flak, CIWS and bunch of things just chews it down to number that is neither efficacious nor efficient. But I guess you're very correct about the player courtesy.|

OOC:
I'm gonna put this as clear as it is humanely possible. (http://i43.tinypic.com/fwil4.jpg)

The red line is the Tomahawk. Left is in a non-ECM environment, and right is an ECM environment.

OOC: We already discussed how barrage jamming can neutralize tomahawks. Besides, I thought it'd be an adequate response to missile spamming. If no one hasn't noticed I'm losing.

[OOC: No I haven't since you're going on with this impossible jammer arguement which I believe ten people have agreed is bullshit now and you're cutting your losses taking what would sink any other ship and making your ship go slower. However, seeing as you are impossibly stubbourn, I am going back and going with the missiles hitting under water.]

OOC: ten? more like two. You and Telros. In any case, thanks. As for the battleship, it's of no surprise seeing that, while the Moskit would sink a carrier, a carrier lacks the armored bulkhead of a battleship, and an AShM hits the thickest point, or the belt.

And by the way, it's your turn.

|OOC: Lulz, 'turn's, a real man keeps up the attack without cessation.|

OOC: huh... manhood aside, I'm actually waiting for NG to respond to my latest attack before this discussion came.

OOC: You don't need to jam every single missile separately, but all of them at once. Tomahawks are meant to hit static targets, that's why they are guided by GPS. You program coordinates, and then it goes there and explodes. However, to track moving targets (i.e. ships), it needs either an UAV or a satellite to constantly update the coordinates, and remind the missiles of where their targets are (via a transmission called datalink). If you jam the GPS frequency signals used by the Tomahawks to update their course, ALL of them become blind.
That kind of explains why the Tomahawk isn't even an anti-ship missile in the first place.

OOC: Actually, they did build a anti-ship variant that used inertial navigation and was fitted with the Harpoons radar seeker for terminal guidance.

Link (http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/57s1.htm)

OOC: Did the TASM even enter service? In any case, I used the normal tactic for Tomahawks, and seems it worked.

OOC: Did the TASM even enter service? In any case, I used the normal tactic for Tomahawks, and seems it worked.

OOC: I believe so, but it was never fired in anger. There are far better RL options and vastly better NS options these days though.

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WARNING ABOVE IS LULZ IGNORANT

If tomahawks were pre-programmed you know what the solution would be? Move the ship. And CIWS, lulz. CIWS is like trying to beat of flies with a napkin, you guna get sum of those bitches, but if you're outza spray and ur fly swatters snapped in half, then ur fukdz.

((OOC: Don't call me ignorant when you sound like a moron in the same post.

Allow me to reiterate my point in more technical terms: The Tomahawk doesn't use actual guidance like say, an anti-air missile (I.e., RADAR, anti-radiation, IR, etc). It uses coordinate based guidance. Coordinates can be given by several means; people obviously have devised a way to allow the Tomahawk to take coordinates from the GPS. However, manually giving coordinates is also possible. Jamming the GPS doesn't block the ability of the crew to calculate the distance the ship would be from the last known coordinates in the time expected for the missile to reach the ship, provided that if the ship is far off, it doesn't change speed or direction. Nor does it disable the ability of Greston to launch planes to provide coordinates, though that is risky. The current situation really depends on the distance.))

OOC: Even if the crew calculated the distance manually, they would still need to transmit the new coordinates of the target to the Tomahawk. But they can't.

OOC: Even if the crew calculated the distance manually, they would still need to transmit the new coordinates of the target to the Tomahawk. But they can't.

((OOC: I was under the belief that you had only jammed the GPS, and not communications.))

OOC: GPS communications, lol. In any case, the solution isn't in the Tomahawks, but in the jamming. If he had shot HARM missiles when I was jamming, my fleet would have been a tremendous 'shoot here' bullseye impossible to miss; or use other means of ECCM. But seems people were too busy bitching.