NationStates Jolt Archive

While still a relative newcomer to the galactic scene, the corporate state TRIAD Enterprises made the notice of galactic holonet today when a spokesperson for the nation issued a press release.

Good day peoples of the galaxy. While it is one of the principle missions of this branch office of TRIAD Enterprises to foster and encourage trade between any nation or entity who wishes to do so, today we must make an exception.
Following recent diplomatic developments regarding the recently formed Traders Economic Coalition, and in specific member signatory nation The United Colonies of Cobol, TRIAD Enterprises is forced to label the United Colonies as a hostile nation and hereby enacts a trade embargo upon the United Colonies.
The United Colonies have made it clear that any nation which utilizes any technologies related to sapient or near-sapient machines is considered to be in violation of United Colonial law, and will be considered criminals regardless of circumstances. As digital and mechanical life forms are in common evidence as citizen shareholders of TRIAD Enterprises, TRIAD cannot condone such violent hostility.
It is with regret that TRIAD Enterprises hereby ceases any and all diplomatic and economic contact with the United Colonies. This announcement also serves to give formal notice to all citizens or vessels of the United Colonies, that any such vessels or individuals found within territory claimed by TRIAD Enterprises, and who do not claim political asylum will be considered enemy combatants, subject to arrest or termination.
All TRIAD vessels and citizen shareholders are required to avoid the stated territories of the United Colonies, and to avoid any and all contact with said peoples and vessels. Should any encounters occur within neutral space, contact is to be avoided. Where such contact cannot be avoided, all vessels are ordered to maintain a full defensive readiness and are authorized to defend themselves against any signs of aggression.
Thank you for your time.

"That was the scene as Karadesh Sovanii, Branch Director to TRIAD Enterprises addressed media agencies of the galactic holonet. While it is not clear at this time what this embargo will truly mean for interstellar commerce, this reporter hopes the situation can be resolved quickly and peacefully."

((OOC: This is not in any way an OOC attack against Orthodox Gnosticism (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/member.php?u=956227). This is purely IC diplo-RP. Feel free to respond to or ignore his 'press release' however you like, however I would prefer some OOC notice if anyone intends to actually declare war over this.))

As we have yet to have any contact with you, nor have any trades or good from your nation or citizens within or from your nation, your boycott is a symbolic gesture at best. We respect your symbolic gesture at this time, as it has no bearing on our economy in any form.

The United Colonies of Kobol, which includes the Empire of New Dornalia, as far as our records can tell had no contact with your nation until such message and invitation by the Terran Federation by asking us to join a trade agreement.

We would also like to warn the Triad, to respect our national sovereignty. A member state of the United Colonies, the Empire of New Dornalia, along with our allies, the Humankind Abh Empire, the Fallen Empire of Balrogga, Chronosia, The Huntarian Alliance/Empire, Godular, Coredia, the Ascendancy of Telros, the Farstars Republic, as well as other nations will defend the United Colonial interests. Colonial Law only applies within soverign territory of the now thirteen colonies of Kobol, and her territories.

We do not seek to enforce our ideals on other nations, as we understand that culture and history of said nations does not reflect our own. In short:

The United Colonies of Kobol does not desire any armed conflict with the Triad, especially over something as petty as a trade dispute, when we have no trade or contact with said nation. In short:

We will respect your nation, if you respect ours.




Sincerely,

Rep. Gaius Baltar
Delegate to the Quorum of Thirteen
United Colonies of Kobol.

(OOC: As far as I am concerned, this is the end of it. I have no intention of declaring war on you.)

Any acts such as piracy, or any offensive attacks besides an "embargo" on the colonies will be considered an act of war on the Federation, and we do warn you that the colonies do have a lot of allied nations to it.

Secretary of state bester-kayborn

Romandeos must express its objection to these unnecessary, warlike actions by the TRIAD corporation. As a Coalition signatory we express support for the United Colonies, and say that, until such time as this embargo has been lifted it shall be the policy of the Imperial Federated Systems to have no commerce relations with the TRIAD corporation. Further, the Threat Registry is updated. It now lists the TRIAD corporation and it interests as potential security issues.

Even though the United Colonies have left the Caolition, this declaration stands.

~ Imperial Diplomatic Representative Dame Tamatha Passaretti

OOC:

I'm not sure about a war, TRIAD, just yet. We'll see what happens.

The Unified Galactic Republic objects to this unnecessary embargo against the Colonies because it's only justification is the Colonies' desire to follow their own rules inside of their own borders. That is not a good enough justification for an act which has the potential to start a major war.

Regardless, the Republic will severely punish any aggression by either side.
-Supreme Chancellor Maximillian Valorum

The Semi-Nomadic Coredian Empire has this to say on the subject of an embargo against the Twelve Colonies, the subsequent saber-rattling and the general topic at hand:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b269/Coredia/Random%20Anime%20Characters/1240607772103.jpg

"Mass Facepalming Epidemic Hits Coredia! Read all about it!"

OOC: ^.^ Perfect opportunity for SAW to cause some Havock.

IC:

These recent developments has caused Sutufinai's Admiralty to consider ways to gain more intelligence. Most importantly military intelligence. As such, Wolfpacks 7 through 18 were deployed into the region most oftenly travelled by marked Colonial and TRIAD Vessels.

The hope?

Sutufinai's Admiralty had decided that the destruction of one or two TRIAD vessels would cause a strong enough reaction with TRIAD to have them pump up their defenses along their convoys. This would hopefully incur a stronger defense on Colonial Convoys with TRIAD's convoys.

Sutufinai Hoped to gain vital Espionage information aswell as Intelligence on both these Nation's space navies.

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OOC: If you are OK with this TRIAD I'll start posting. I am in no way attacking the Colonials... Just you. ^.^ Trying to make it look like Colonial stealth ships. =3

OOC: ^.^ Perfect opportunity for SAW to cause some Havock.

IC:

These recent developments has caused Sutufinai's Admiralty to consider ways to gain more intelligence. Most importantly military intelligence. As such, Wolfpacks 7 through 18 were deployed into the region most oftenly travelled by marked Colonial and TRIAD Vessels.

The hope?

Sutufinai's Admiralty had decided that the destruction of one or two TRIAD vessels would cause a strong enough reaction with TRIAD to have them pump up their defenses along their convoys. This would hopefully incur a stronger defense on Colonial Convoys with TRIAD's convoys.

Sutufinai Hoped to gain vital Espionage information aswell as Intelligence on both these Nation's space navies.

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OOC: If you are OK with this TRIAD I'll start posting. I am in no way attacking the Colonials... Just you. ^.^ Trying to make it look like Colonial stealth ships. =3



OOC: Ok wow, um yeah. First of all NONE OF YOU have ever had contact with my nation, with the exception of TFU and Coredia. Even TFU doesn't know my designs, as he only knows of me through a third party. You don't know what my markings are, what my ships look like, or even what race I am. Please try to be original and play realistically.

ICly your nation has no clue what Tech I have, what my ships look like, or what weaponry I have. At best all you know is I have at least 12 colonies, and I hate AI. That's it. So yeah, play realistically please. You can't copy what you don't know.

And before you say it, No, you do not have spies within my nation. Sorry for being so short. If you try to use my ships and designs without realistic reasons, then any actions that occur in this thread or in any other from these events are ignored outright.

Thank you.

OOC: I never claimed I did Orthodox. =)

But TRIAD is new to this Galaxy aswell and THEY don't know what you have either.

So, the Sutfen Admitalty, while they have no idea about Orthodox designs or ships... Are gambling on the fact that TRIAD won't either. So they are hoping that unknown ships randomly preying on TRIAD shipping will cause TRIAD who just made an open embargo against Orthodox will think that these unknown ships are infact Orthodox ships.

The Sutufinai Admiralty isn't going to try in the least to steal your starship designs or try and mirror your nation's Navy. Their just going to try and fuel suspicion and fear so they can spy on TRIAD and possibly (If you say it's OK.) on your Nation Orthodox on the tradelanes instead of inside the safety of your nation.

The Sutufinai Admiralty isn't going to try in the least to steal your starship designs or try and mirror your nation's Navy. Their just going to try and fuel suspicion and fear so they can spy on TRIAD and possibly (If you say it's OK.) on your Nation Orthodox on the tradelanes instead of inside the safety of your nation.
OOC: The Twelve Colonies are, for the most part, isolationist. The only contact they have with the outside world is me, New Dornalia, Humankind Abh and Chronosia at best. They wouldn't have trade routes outside of that little circle of nations. Any espionage attempt would have to either go through me as a third party (since I'm the most likely of the four to have merchant ships, freighters, smugglers and what have you everywhere) PLUS you must conduct what's essentially a first-contact situation before you do anything else.

When RPing with the Colonies, you must also remember that it's not like RPing with the usual crop of n00bs and wankers. I would be remiss if I didn't say that RPing with what's essentially the actual Twelve Colonies of Kobol as portrayed in the Battlestar Galactica remake would require some experience in RPing. With him, every single action has consequences, even RPs three or four threads ago. I learned that lesson the hard way. :)

Besides, they're xenophobic, drunken, nuke-you-until-you-glow-as-they-please bastards (and the Cylons are even worse). They won't be trusting at all and it would take some good RPing to grant their trust. Nevertheless, I wouldn't have OG here RP any other way.

OOC: The Twelve Colonies are, for the most part, isolationist. The only contact they have with the outside world is me, New Dornalia, Humankind Abh and Chronosia at best. They wouldn't have trade routes outside of that little circle of nations. Any espionage attempt would have to either go through me as a third party (since I'm the most likely of the four to have merchant ships, freighters, smugglers and what have you everywhere) PLUS you must conduct what's essentially a first-contact situation before you do anything else.

When RPing with the Colonies, you must also remember that it's not like RPing with the usual crop of n00bs and wankers. I would be remiss if I didn't say that RPing with what's essentially the actual Twelve Colonies of Kobol as portrayed in the Battlestar Galactica remake would require some experience in RPing. With him, every single action has consequences, even RPs three or four threads ago. I learned that lesson the hard way. :)

Besides, they're xenophobic, drunken, nuke-you-until-you-glow-as-they-please bastards (and the Cylons are even worse), but I wouldn't have OG here RP any other way.

Hehe, don't forget the movie Caprica. And I love you too cw hehe.

Hehe, don't forget the movie Caprica. And I love you too cw hehe.
Ah, Caprica. The Roman Empire...In SPAAAAACE!

You know you love the holoband, and the temple of Aphrodite :)

Meh, I wasn't plotting against you fellows anyway. I'm mostly after TRIAD. Hence why I asked if it's OK if I tried to spy on you. I've already got the OK by TRIAD. I was just trying to take advantage of an opportunity. Hence:

OOC:Their just going to try and fuel suspicion and fear so they can spy on TRIAD and possibly (If you say it's OK.) on your Nation Orthodox on the tradelanes instead of inside the safety of your nation.

Meh, I wasn't plotting against you fellows anyway. I'm mostly after TRIAD. Hence why I asked if it's OK if I tried to spy on you. I've already got the OK by TRIAD. I was just trying to take advantage of an opportunity. Hence:

I don't have trade lanes outside my space. For travel outside my space, I use Space fold jump drives. Second of all, my borders are currently under blockade by my allies to prevent undue foreign influence upon the outcome of my civil war. Until the Tauronese Mutiny is over, it will be very hard to slip by. For details please TG Balrogga.

At a later date when it is realistic to do so I will be more than happy to RP with you, including your attempt to spy on me. I have no qualms with that. But if you try to claim to be me at this time and if Traid, whom my nation really has no concern about (No offense) finds me, they won't think for a second that I am you.

In any event feel free with Traid's permission to harass him, but at least pretend to be someone other than a quick name you heard in a communication. I know this is FT, but please be somewhat realistic. Try a more open target, I would suggest TFU, considering unlike me, TFU has threatened war, and is a very well known society. (WIth TFU's permission of course) Chances are your tech will be closer to his than mine anyway.

Or you could take up CW's suggestion and start the frame work to get to me, through his nation. Coredians are very trusting people and accepting of outsiders. He is also everywhere. From there, you can eventually work your way to my nation.

OOC: Folks, I originally intended this thread just to stir things up politicly. I wanted to do something other than the traditional method of "Let's try and play nice with everyone" mentality I usually see. Not too many (outside a number of those in the GA thread) people portray nations with actual character. I like seeing character flaws, hard-nosed/stupid decisions, and things which sometimes make no sense at first.

I wanted to do something with TRIAD that might make some enemies, piss people off, or otherwise stub someone's political toe. OG and the TEC provided me the perfect opportunity. The TEC because TRIAD hates 'economic alliances', which it sees the TEC being exactly that; and OG because AI is so integrated into almost every level of TRIAD society that OG and TRIAD will almost certainly never be neutral to each other, much less friends.

Sutufinai, you may stage a raid on TRIAD shipping if you wish, but not in this thread please. This thread is supposed to be purely for political discussion, communication, and reactions. Also, I've just created an OOC thread HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14738091), so kindly move future OOC discussion over there.

Any questions while I write up some IC political communications and statements?

To: Rep. Gaius Baltar - United Colonies of Kobol
CC: Representative Dame Tamatha Passaretti - Romandeos Imperial Federated Systems
From: Karadesh Sovanii, Branch Director to TRIAD Enterprises, Nexus 3746 Branch

Re: Trade Embargo

You are correct in labeling the recent trade embargo between our nations as a symbolic gesture. As you have pointed out, there has previously been no contact between our peoples, nor has there been trade relations.
The purpose of our actions is to ensure that no TRIAD vessels or citizen shareholders ever enter United Colonial space. Digital and mechanical life are integrated into many levels of TRIAD society, and cannot simply be withdrawn or withheld without violating the civil liberties of TRIAD Enterprises' citizen shareholders.
As such it was deemed necessary to ensure that all contact between our nations be legally prevented by enacting the embargo.

However, after discussion with the Romandeos Imperial Federated Systems, and in the interests of smoothing diplomatic tensions with said nation, TRIAD Enterprises is willing to formally lift the embargo with your nation.
As was the case with enacting the embargo in the first place, this is a purely symbolic gesture. We wish to make it clear that our Home Offices have made the decision that any political or economic relations will either be highly strained at best, or outright impossible at worst.
We acknowledge and recognize the right to conduct your affairs as your culture dictates, and we will not attempt to enforce our affairs upon your peoples. Should your nation become willing to tolerate the presence of non-hostile digital or mechanical life, TRIAD Enterprises will welcome the opportunity to establish official relations with the United Colonies.

To reiterate,
1. TRIAD Enterprises officially lifts the embargo against the United Colonies of Kobol.
2. All sovereign territory belonging to the United Colonies of Kobol is considered an official "No-Fly Zone" by all TRIAD Enterprises vessels and citizen shareholders.
3. Any political, diplomatic, and economic relations between TRIAD Enterprises and the United Colonies of Kobol will be suspended unless or until such time as the United Colonies of Kobol are willing to allow the inclusion of non-hostile digital or mechanical life in such relations.


Signed,
Karadesh Sovanii
Branch Director to TRIAD Enterprises
Nexus 3746 Branch

Official Statement of the Commissariat of Foreign Affairs

We in the Workers State of New Dornalia are frankly glad that this course of action has been taken to avert a disastrous turn of events.

To clarify a few matters for the shareholders of TRIAD Enterprises to ease their concerns, the New Dornalians, members of the United Colonies of Kobol, permit the creation and usage of sentient, semi-sentient, and highly sophisticated software and computer units for civil and military usage. However, per what one could call a "gentleman's agreement" with the Twelve Colonies proper (both in formalized and "handshake" form), we do not export such materials or use them within Twelve Colonial space, out of respect for their laws.

Now, we are not so isolationist as the UCK proper is; we have a more open foreign policy and we'd love to chat if you wish, we'd be happy to have your business (we're not as Communist as our name makes us out to be, we rejected the outdated foolishness of Marx a long time ago). However, we would like to politely remind you that bullishness and disrespect for national sovereignty is generally not tolerated by anyone. Take that as you will.

To: Commissariat of Foreign Affairs - Workers State of New Dornalia
CC: None
From: Karadesh Sovanii, Branch Director to TRIAD Enterprises, Nexus 3746 Branch

Re: Economic Relations

TRIAD Enterprises expresses it's regret and sympathy for New Dornalia's inclusion/involvement within such a repressive society. TRIAD Enterprises would offer assistance, be it economic or otherwise, however there are several problems. Frist among these is the assumption that New Dornalian space is encompassed within the larger borders of United Colonial space. If this assumption is in error, we welcome the opportunity for correction.

If this assumption is correct, then any possible trade relations must be conducted outside United Colonial space. TRIAD Enterprises formally invites New Dornalia to the recently established trade outpost owned by TRIAD Enterprises. Enclosed within this missive are the galactic coordinates to the system where this outpost is located. TRIAD Enterprises is more than willing to entertain the sale of goods and services to New Dornalia, so long as New Dornalia is responsible for transport of all said goods.

The no-fly exclusion zone which is defined by the United Colonies borders will not be lifted at this time.

((Trade station is located HERE (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14740424).))

Signed,
Karadesh Sovanii
Branch Director to TRIAD Enterprises
Nexus 3746 Branch

To: Karadesh Sovanii, Branch Director to TRIAD Enterprises, Nexus 3746 Branch
From: Kilcanada Ministry of Trade

Our nation would like to offer your nation some of our high-class automobiles.
Buick, Chevrolet, Daewoo, Pontiac, Saturn and Suzuki are all locally-manufactured, and exported widely. We wish to offer you some of these for TRIAD Enterprises.

Specifications (engines/trim levels/bodystyles) will be customised for your nation, at your request.

In the name of His Divine Majesty Remiel De Drakan, Emperor of Chronosia, Scion of Chaos, Galactic Warmaster;

Thought for the day: Suffer not the soulless sentience to live, for it values not the things of men nor Gods.

Let the people of the TRIAD know that the Colonies of Kobol are under the martial protection of his august lordship Remiel De Drakan, and so supported by the full military might of the Chronosian Imperium. Ties of honor, battle-loyalty and blood hold us to the people of the Colonies, most notably those of Geminon.

We shall watch these developing irregularities with...Keen interest.

All praises.

((Placeholder. Sorry I haven't responded yet guys. Muse has taken a sick day today and I have been almost totally unable to muster the creative energies required to write a post. *sigh* I will however get to posting as soon as I can. Again, sorry for the hold-up.))