NationStates Jolt Archive

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I could see myself getting involved in this. Egypt digging up a historic grudge and whatnot.

Different sphere, Steppes based Islamic nation, but I'd like to get involved if only to defend my brothers of the faith (regardless of where the conflict originates)

Well I'd say I'm located in Canaan/Israel.

What's your national background? Are you a successor state to the current state of Israel, or are you basing your roleplay on the idea that Israel proper never existed making your nation the "true" state of Israel? Regardless, zionist resurgence in the region would likely anger my Egyptian government.

I could be the international illegal arms provider that gives one of the sides weaponry in exchange of promises of oil resources from the warring states. If this ever takes off, that is,

Well, my natons story is basically, the Jews stayed in Israel and held off Greek, Roman and Islamic invaders. Thus, the nation developed from ancient times as a Jewish state, though I still deal with the hate of my neighbors etc.

Neat. Sounds good. Then I'm definitely interested in something like this.

Ok. So you can be the main attacker.

Me? The main attacker? Well, I'm not an arab nation (I'm more of a consumerist analogy of the USSR). I just want resources and colonies.

But if you say so...

Me? The main attacker? Well, I'm not an arab nation (I'm more of a consumerist analogy of the USSR). I just want resources and colonies.

But if you say so...

Not you, Gumuhuriyyat Misr

Manth is as much Greek as Islamic, but I might be interested in this. Will the attackers have any justification for attacking other than random hatred, though? I mean, IRL it's "get off our land" which I'd be a good deal more inclined to support than "we hate jews lulz."

Manth is as much Greek as Islamic, but I might be interested in this. Will the attackers have any justification for attacking other than random hatred, though? I mean, IRL it's "get off our land" which I'd be a good deal more inclined to support than "we hate jews lulz."

Most Muslim conservatives hate our guts. You wouldn't understand. Anti Semenitism is a perfect cassus belli.

This is going to be offsite, right? Because you can't RP existing nations in here.

Most Muslim conservatives hate our guts. You wouldn't understand. Anti Semenitism is a perfect cassus belli.

If it's just anti-Semitism as a casus belli I'd have no IC reason to support the attackers, so I'll stay out.

Tiger, this isn't RPing an existing nation.

Manth is as much Greek as Islamic, but I might be interested in this. Will the attackers have any justification for attacking other than random hatred, though? I mean, IRL it's "get off our land" which I'd be a good deal more inclined to support than "we hate jews lulz."

To be fair, the "get off our land" argument could still fly. If it's an isolated Jewish state we could simply argue along a 'manifest destiny' style clause that the territory being occupied is an Arab birthright. An interesting change of the RL positions.

This is going to be offsite, right? Because you can't RP existing nations in here.

I read the stickies. These are NS nations.

ralkovia would support Zion-Canaan should attacks break out,

We never leave Jewish brothers behind.

As soon as my Civil War ends, could I join in as the Second Republic of Zunola? We would probably intervene on the side of the Jews.

Cool. Now I won't be alone :D

Tolvan has colony in North Africa known as Al-Huabid. The population is about 95% Arab, however most have converted to Christianity under Tolvanic rule. I'd likely back a Jewish state just to get the miliant Arabs off my back.

I would be interested in getting involved. I consider my nation to be in the Mediterranean region so we'd be interested in occurrences in the Middle East (the back-yard so to speak) and can thus come up with a reasonable explination for wanting to intervene while not caring at all about the actual motivations or really the outcome of the conflict.

My nation would would view this as a chance to secure itself as a regional hegemonic power by supporting Gumuhuriyyat Misr basically to ensure horrific damage to the original belligerents' armed forces and infrastructure without allowing either nation to be wholly while not having to risk our own infrastructure or expend more military resources than we wish to.

You guys think you'd have room for a nation in the conflict with that sort of outlook?

So when's this likely to get going?

Do you guys have coastlines I can send ships to?

I might become involved on the Israeli side.

I'll participate on the side of Gumuhuriyyat Misr despite our differences because IO never leaves their Islamic brothers to fight alone

Most Muslim conservatives hate our guts. You wouldn't understand. Anti Semenitism is a perfect cassus belli.

While I'm not sure that I like the tone of this particular comment (telling other people what they think of you -even in a totally changed set of circumstances-, telling others what they can and can't understand), I'm still interested.

In your nation's reality, are Muslim holy sites under Canaan's administration? If so, I wonder how that came to be if the Jews never lost control?

Al Khals may have little cause for enmity with Zion-Canaan to begin with, but the outbreak of hostilities between Canaan and the Egyptian Republic would get our attention.

Probably Al Khals would want to be supportive of fellow Ba'athists, providing loans, fuels, and arms to Gumuhuriyyat Misr at first. If the war goes badly for the Egyptians, the Mushir Omar Qottar might issue some sort of Al Khali guarantee of Egyptian sovereignty and join in then. Likewise, if major foreign powers side with Zion, Al Khals might become more involved on Egypt's side.

Basically I'm saying that I want to be involved, but I don't want my ten billion Al Khalis to steamroll Zion-Canaan, because that's no fun for anyone, so I probably wouldn't fully join the war at the start unless GM is badly outnumbered by pro-ZC states.

I am sure Wolverine Defence Corporations would be open for contracts, we would side with who ever offers the best price or who ever appears to be out numbered, not all PMCs have lost a sense of honour.

Failing that I am sure if you don't mind, I could have a few supply convoys get caught up in the middle of it.

ooc:for ooc reasons i can be friendly super power to the "israelis". i can supply arms and intel...The rest you have to do on your own, if you want this to be a ganag bang 1973 type of thing.

Since it looks like the War is about to end and since I'll be looking for some state-of-the-art arms due to a little bit of luck on the Zunolans side which shall be kept secret, I may enter on the Zionist side.

Or, we can go against the Zion and support the Arabs. Who knows with the next Zunolan government? If we don't enter for Canaan, we'll probably get invaded by friendly ol' Ralkovia, and their get the Abrahamic Dictatorship back up for a while before the revolutionaries get up in arms...

Expect the Civil War to end either tonight or tomorrow.

I'd like to be a Large Arabic nation with outdated equipment and conscripts (original I knows :/) and I wouldn't mind losing, so long as it's against someone who is competent. The name of the nation I'd be RPing as would be The Sheikdom of Al-Hazeqk.

Zion-Canaan: check your telegrams when you can.

I think this should probably be trimmed down to two or three active belligerents per side, just to make sure things don't get confusing. Those numbers wouldn't include support roles, so everyone could still participate.

I'd join. My nation, Augarundus, isn't Middle Eastern Islamic or Jewish state.... far from it! It's a northern power in an incredibly cold climate (the official religion is a sick perversion of faith called apostasy, meaning the hatred of God. The country is Catholic, but despises God- quite contradictory). I may get involved in the war as a foreign invasion force. Much like the Kingdom of Prussia, the Communist Augarian Dictatorship focuses all culture on military service, so an invasion of a Jewish state, along with Islamic states (or anyone in our way) would make sense.

May I join? I'm based in Ethiopia only smaller, and I'd be interested in assisting Zion-Canaan. Due to Ethiopia's jewish population. I mean we are mainly Rastafarian/Christian but bout 1/5 of our population is jewish.

Id be willing to go against the Zionist Jews. My nation isnt Muslim though.

As Nachmere,I am willing to supply armament to the Israeli side.

Even if needed to do so in a clandestine manner.

so what r the sides goin gto be?

this is what it looks like according to people who have shown interest:

Arab Side
Gumuhuriyyat Misr
Italia Orientale
Al Khals
New Manth
I Eldalante (?)
Dakimrod
Terre Nationale
Rolling Dead

Israeli Side
Zion-Canaan
Ralkovia
Zunola
Tolvan
The Resurgent Dream
Selassie del Ethiopia

Neutral Arms/Equipment Suppliers
Birkaine
The Wolf Hold
Reikjavik

does that sound about right to everyone. i think its important we get ourselves a little organized.

also, is the war goin gto be located strictly on the territories of Zion-Canaan and Gumuhuriyyat Misr or are there going to be multiple theaters of operation?

That's correct, with the addition of Anghele. I might break my neutrality under some circumstances, but don't expect three armies to be deployed immediately.

ooc:
hey what about me?

There is way to many people interested. I'm gonna limit it to about 4 foreign nations. Not including me.

Arabs:
Gumuhuriyyat Misr
Italia Orientale

Jews:
Ralkovia
Zunola

I'm located in modern day Israel plus Gaza and the West Bank. I'm seeing Gumuhuriyyat Misr as located in Egypt(?) Italia Oreintale in well, Italy(?) and Ralkovia... I don't know. Zunola, I'm guessing is somewhere in the Turkey/Cyprus/ maybe even Africa area. Am I right?

Why was I left out? I mean I joined earlier than most of the listed ones.

that would mean that the israeli side would outnumber the arab side 3 to 2. also, i think it would be better to allow more members to join in, at least 4 per side, no need to be exclusive.we also havent decided on the theater(s) of operation.

also if it is only going to be 2 on the arab side i would cede my position to al khals if they are interested since they are closer allies with Gumuhuriyyat Misr than i am. we are actually involved in a diplomatic dispute right now, i was only siding with them to support a muslim country. though i do maintain that there should be more members allowed in.

italia orientale is located on the mediterranean coast of present-day Libya including Tripoli and Benghazi

Birkaine would be an arms suppiler.

that would mean that the israeli side would outnumber the arab side 3 to 2. also, i think it would be better to allow more members to join in, at least 4 per side, no need to be exclusive.we also havent decided on the theater(s) of operation

When Rps get overcrowded they suck. Zunola contacted me along with Gumuhuriyyat Misr so they get in automatically.

Birkaine, I don't need some random weapons dealer involved so I ddn't add you. If you are willing to take a real role, I'll let you in.

I'll accept one more Arab nation to even it up. After that its done.

Ok, I'll back the arabs, but out of a case of expansionism, not culture.

Fine. I'll make the thread later. as of now,

THIS THREAD IS CLOSED!!!

Have this as the OOC thread Zion-Canaan, but closed for all other sign-ups.

wait so what is the final head count with sides?

There is way to many people interested. I'm gonna limit it to about 4 foreign nations. Not including me.

Arabs:
Gumuhuriyyat Misr
Italia Orientale

Jews:
Ralkovia
Zunola

I'm located in modern day Israel plus Gaza and the West Bank. I'm seeing Gumuhuriyyat Misr as located in Egypt(?) Italia Oreintale in well, Italy(?) and Ralkovia... I don't know. Zunola, I'm guessing is somewhere in the Turkey/Cyprus/ maybe even Africa area. Am I right?

Zunola's an island off West Africa. God, I need to finish this War tonight, get the government in and get a few supplies! :P