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OOC:

I am going to roleplay me attacking the Mew Towers, I will fly a plane into it, this thread is to ask for other nations help, and funding.

--Classified--

At the airport in Al-Quidah

Mr. Foaf walks to the cockpit of a Boeing 737 and tells the pilot (who is a terrorist) the briefing. He informs them to fly the plane into the top half of the Mew Tower in Mews Land. There are 5 large bombs incased in metal, If the plane were to get shot down, the bombs would drop off the plane onto Mews Land, or even the Mew Tower and cause extensive damge, so either way the attack would be deadly. The planes engine starts, and takes off for Mews Land.

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ooc sorry but No Mew FT so i can't see this happening

ooc sorry but No Mew FT so i can't see this happening

OOC: Why?

ooc plane can't fly in space to other planets

And generally, those being attacked know about it. It's etiquette. (Even a 'surprise' IC attack must be RPed correctly by the attacked country). Something tells me that Mewsland hasn't been contacted by you in any way.

Oh, and what Imperial isa said.

OOC: Right. Unless you could fly a plane roughly six million light-years in any fast amount of time.

ooc unless they the south park ones

OOC: There's still the distance problem.

ooc space a fleets too

ooc: problem with alerting people at least in regards to II that an attack is impending, When the attack does happen the attacked nation 99.9% of the time metagames and will claim to have had some reason for being on "alert" or having some plan already in place that greatly negates any losses or damage taken.

You're better off not informing them of an attack, but not attacking directly. More like covertly deploying subs to begin torpedoing merchant ships etc. This way you don't loose your surprise element TOO much. But the person getting attacked has a chance to make sure you don't "LULZ I bomb your cities to the ground while you are not expecting it."

ooc: problem with alerting people at least in regards to II that an attack is impending, When the attack does happen the attacked nation 99.9% of the time metagames and will claim to have had some reason for being on "alert" or having some plan already in place that greatly negates any losses or damage taken.

You're better off not informing them of an attack, but not attacking directly. More like covertly deploying subs to begin torpedoing merchant ships etc. This way you don't loose your surprise element TOO much. But the person getting attacked has a chance to make sure you don't "LULZ I bomb your cities to the ground while you are not expecting it."

Ummm... no.

Best thing to do is talk to the person OOCly (if need be, in a thread, but best-case scenario on a messenger program like MSN) and work out what you're attacking, your intents, how they're going to react -- RPing is story-telling, remember. And you can't throw a masquerade ball if you don't tell anyone that they need to bring masks.

Experienced RPers understand the need for outside planning -- hence the reason for signup/OOC threads. It makes it so that you know who's gonna be involved, what their position(s) is/(are), and how far they're willing to go -- invasion? Nuclear attack? Planet blowing up? (in FT), etc. To be honest, at least IMO, an RPed attack should never be a surprise OOCly to the person. But ICly, a good player can properly RP the "OMG WTF" reaction of their government, even if they knew about it OOC.

OOC:I agree with what's been said. Not all people can RP being on the attacked end of a surprise attack, but most can. I do think there should always be an OOC/Singup thread, and that both parties should always be agreed. As has been said, that does present the problem of people doing SOMETHING to try and prevent the attack. However, you can normaly deal with this. People who comepletely stop something like that normaly have to do so by GodModding. Anyways, this thread has been ignored by all I beleive.
Al Quidah, I suggest putting in some dialogue. You have to use the same tricks that writers use, since with this you are litterraly writing a book with multiple other people. Try setting the scene real well, to. How does the area feel, look, smell, sound like. All this will immerse the reader and make reading the posts much more enjoyable.

OOC:I agree with what's been said. Not all people can RP being on the attacked end of a surprise attack, but most can. I do think there should always be an OOC/Singup thread, and that both parties should always be agreed. As has been said, that does present the problem of people doing SOMETHING to try and prevent the attack. However, you can normaly deal with this. People who comepletely stop something like that normaly have to do so by GodModding. Anyways, this thread has been ignored by all I beleive.
Al Quidah, I suggest putting in some dialogue. You have to use the same tricks that writers use, since with this you are litterraly writing a book with multiple other people. Try setting the scene real well, to. How does the area feel, look, smell, sound like. All this will immerse the reader and make reading the posts much more enjoyable.

It's been ignored, yes, because the OP is trying to RP a conventional MT terrorist attack on a non-Earth FT nation. There isn't too much he can do to salvage this thread, short of morphing his nation into a FT one.

Just read the advice given here, AQ. That's my recommendation.

TGLT, out.

There isn't too much he can do to salvage this thread, short of morphing his nation into a FT one.



Give him time... he will.

Ummm... no.

Best thing to do is talk to the person OOCly (if need be, in a thread, but best-case scenario on a messenger program like MSN) and work out what you're attacking, your intents, how they're going to react -- RPing is story-telling, remember. And you can't throw a masquerade ball if you don't tell anyone that they need to bring masks.

Experienced RPers understand the need for outside planning -- hence the reason for signup/OOC threads. It makes it so that you know who's gonna be involved, what their position(s) is/(are), and how far they're willing to go -- invasion? Nuclear attack? Planet blowing up? (in FT), etc. To be honest, at least IMO, an RPed attack should never be a surprise OOCly to the person. But ICly, a good player can properly RP the "OMG WTF" reaction of their government, even if they knew about it OOC.


99.9% of rpers here will metagame from any ooc convo you make in regards to an IC action, and thus the entire attack is pointless since you're "surprise" will meet with a well planned and alert force ready for literally anything you come up with.

Further to the majority of II rping isn't storytelling its about "winning" there's absolutely nothing unethical about moving subs towards an area covertly, etc, so long as you don't start rping their losses. And in terms of II rping you're better off doing that. the majority of the experienced rpers (in case you haven't noticed) have left II to rp on their own regional boards or elsewhere to avoid the "I must win" mentality along with the annoyingly wanked out deployments of troops or equipment that come from video games or bad sci-fi channel movies.

99.9% of rpers here will metagame from any ooc convo you make in regards to an IC action, and thus the entire attack is pointless since you're "surprise" will meet with a well planned and alert force ready for literally anything you come up with.
That would be because they are shitty RPers.

Unkerlantum, I take serious issue with your post.

bad sci-fi channel movies.

Since when has there been a good sci-fi channel movie?


I'll leave shooting down the cynical comments to people who haven't been extremely inactive. ^_^

99.9% of rpers here will metagame from any ooc convo you make in regards to an IC action, and thus the entire attack is pointless since you're "surprise" will meet with a well planned and alert force ready for literally anything you come up with.

Further to the majority of II rping isn't storytelling its about "winning" there's absolutely nothing unethical about moving subs towards an area covertly, etc, so long as you don't start rping their losses. And in terms of II rping you're better off doing that. the majority of the experienced rpers (in case you haven't noticed) have left II to rp on their own regional boards or elsewhere to avoid the "I must win" mentality along with the annoyingly wanked out deployments of troops or equipment that come from video games or bad sci-fi channel movies.

I didn't say it was about winning. In fact, I thought I had made the point that it's about story-telling. I thought that my bit of:

an RPed attack should never be a surprise OOCly to the person. But ICly, a good player can properly RP the "OMG WTF" reaction of their government, even if they knew about it OOC.

Was pretty obvious. The OMG WTF reaction, I should explicitly define, is "OMG WTF! Enemies are attacking us, and our units are all overdrawn! SHIT!" As you said, meta-gaming exists, but I have yet to find one person that I discuss an RP with OOC that then RPs knowing about an attack/being ready/counterattacking. That 99.9% figure is woefully inaccurate, and kind of insulting, to boot -- you're telling me those people with thousands of posts, TENS of thousands, in RPing don't know how to lose for dramatic effect? I call bullshit.

I don't know where the hell you got that I was saying it's about winning. I thought that saying 'it's about story-telling' would make it PRETTY OBVIOUS that I DON'T care about the outcome. It's the journey, not the destination.

EDIT: Yes, there are lots of newbies who make their first post NUKES LAWL, but that's a far cry from even 50%, let alone 99%; I think that's the point you thought you were making.

Unkerlantum, I take serious issue with your post.



Since when has there been a good sci-fi channel movie?


I'll leave shooting down the cynical comments to people who haven't been extremely inactive. ^_^

Im unaware of any sci-fi channel film ever being good, the network does however occasionally play other movies which are good I've seen the oly childsplay movies, the Alien movies etc.

I didn't say it was about winning. In fact, I thought I had made the point that it's about story-telling. I thought that my bit of:



Was pretty obvious. The OMG WTF reaction, I should explicitly define, is "OMG WTF! Enemies are attacking us, and our units are all overdrawn! SHIT!" As you said, meta-gaming exists, but I have yet to find one person that I discuss an RP with OOC that then RPs knowing about an attack/being ready/counterattacking. That 99.9% figure is woefully inaccurate, and kind of insulting, to boot -- you're telling me those people with thousands of posts, TENS of thousands, in RPing don't know how to lose for dramatic effect? I call bullshit.

I don't know where the hell you got that I was saying it's about winning. I thought that saying 'it's about story-telling' would make it PRETTY OBVIOUS that I DON'T care about the outcome. It's the journey, not the destination.

EDIT: Yes, there are lots of newbies who make their first post NUKES LAWL, but that's a far cry from even 50%, let alone 99%; I think that's the point you thought you were making.


I didn't miss your point nor did I say you specifically rp to win, I stated the fact that in general more people on II rp to win than to tell a story. Further the post count of a user shouldn't be any reflection of how they are as an rper.

I could post one line nuke spams in 10000 threads and have a high post count but still suck at rping there are quite a few sucky rpers who have high post counts simply because they make numerous one line posts in everything from naval engagements to diplomatic messages.

And while the number of "lulz I declare war on the world" posters is low, the number of comically wanked, very dry and boring etc rpers is well over 50% on II.

OOC: This is a trainwreck.

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Further the post count of a user shouldn't be any reflection of how they are as an rper.

I could post one line nuke spams in 10000 threads and have a high post count but still suck at rping there are quite a few sucky rpers who have high post counts simply because they make numerous one line posts in everything from naval engagements to diplomatic messages.

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And even knowing that threads like this very one exist, you think people could last long enough in II to garner thousands of posts without being laughed out by everyone here and/or mod banned (Ryou Black Islands)? I challenge you to link me to one user account of a person who's breached 1,000 II posts (not including NSG posts, which kinda narrows your ability to exaggerate) that makes one line and/or nondescript posts on a regular and repeating basis. Post count means nothing below a thousand or so posts, I agree. But I'll be damned if you claim those higher-count posters are bad RPers who can't post for shit. ANY of them. I'm not talking about 500, 800, anything like that. 1,000. They wouldn't last that long, not in this place.