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Thyrium Wars [FT/OOC/Idea]

Orinon
04-04-2009, 01:58
OK, quick run down of my idea.
Thryium is a sand-like element used by my FT nation as a fuel source.
And the nation needs more of it, so they send out Battlestars to look for it.
Why Battlestars? Because they are 1) tough as nails, 2) can survive for YEARS on their own when properly equipped, and 3) ummm...i dont have a third reason. :/
ANYWHO....Battlestar jumps into system inhabited, fighting ensures, Battlestar jumps and enemies follow it back home.

oh, and PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, if you are a big power in the universe, don't send a gabillion ships. I like being able to RP my country, thanks very much!
Balrogga
04-04-2009, 04:27
I might give this a try.


EDIT:

Check your telegrams
Torturous Chamber
04-04-2009, 11:45
13th Exploration Fleet will come. I'll get up an orbat later.
Orinon
04-04-2009, 21:58
suddenly i'm very afraid.
The Fedral Union
04-04-2009, 22:14
I could join up:P and afraid of what?
Orinon
04-04-2009, 22:21
I'm afraid because if the enemy decide that they dont like me, they could just send in a huge ass fleet and i couldn't do shit about it.
Vocenae
04-04-2009, 23:47
Or, you know, state in your thread rules 'NO LARGE FLEETS' and then ignore anyone that violates it.
Balrogga
05-04-2009, 00:38
That is a good point.

But id he does something silly like hitting each player so thay all arrive at about the same time to find out why the attack happened things could get very frightful indeed.

If you do decide upon the idea I sent to you let me know. I should be on MSN for many hours tonight starting in about 5 hours or so depending upon the wifi at work.
Qingzi
05-04-2009, 01:50
Cool idea. Too bad I'm MT.
Rothbardlund
05-04-2009, 01:56
I'd be willing to join, I could RP as a bunch of anarchist crusaders trying to liberate your nation.
Orinon
05-04-2009, 02:07
from what though?
so far we have:
Balrogga
Fedral Union
Torturous Chamber

Might put up the IC thread later....
Avenio
05-04-2009, 02:29
May I join?
Orinon
05-04-2009, 05:19
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=589104

THREAD IS UP!
go go GO!
Emperatium Drakonicum
05-04-2009, 06:11
Sign me up for space combat goodness.
Balrogga
05-04-2009, 06:32
My first post is up.
Sertian
05-04-2009, 06:57
I might monitor the situation, perhaps step in on both sides to make sure neither person gains an edge so the fighting goes on for a while. >:3
Orinon
05-04-2009, 07:02
that sounds evil.
and i like it.
Balrogga
06-04-2009, 17:27
In case you might be wondering why I am not doing anything is I am giving you a chance to do your actions you described in the first post.
Orinon
07-04-2009, 06:58
OK, so my Battlestar is moving to put itself in a position so that it can defend the planet and itself at the same time.
Of course, now it has reason to stick around, so get used to seeing it around in the system.
Balrogga
07-04-2009, 08:13
ICly I am trying to assemble enough of your language for a translator. Since you said this is the first you have met another alien race I am assuming there exists nothing to go by so it will take a little time. Fortunately assistance will arrive after the ten minutes are up. I will not bring in everything, just a ship or two at first but as things heat up there willbe more arriving to make you leave so I can follow you back to your home system as dictated in your first post.

If you want to change anything just let me know, it is your story after all.
Red Talons
07-04-2009, 09:45
I'll have a small fleet get mixed up in this
Balrogga
07-04-2009, 21:46
I am posting a reply and sending the battlestar a message. If you want to play my comm signals being too strong go ahead or some other misunderstanding that is making this an epic drama event feel free. Perhaps you might misinterperate the data stream coordinants as an attempt to hack your system due to bizarre interactions between equipment. Feel free to use your imagination. The ship would be entering orbit near you (but not next obviously) in the next post if you don't fire or anything.



@Red Talons, you can describe what my sensors detect if you wish since I am scanning you.



@Sertian, so far I have not had enough time to do a detailed enough scan of the surrounding area to pick up your observers. I am not ignoring your presence, just don't know about them yet. Too many visible targets popping in and moving about.


Everyone who knows "Galactic Trade Lingo" or one of the many other languages should be able to understand both the message I am sending the battlestar and the claim from the Marker Buoy.


Edit: By the way, I do not pay attention to subspace so any emissions you might have using that will go undetected by me. To me it just doesn't exist technologically since my tech went Dimensional instead of toward subspace. Of course weapons based on it will affect me like normal weapons will, I just cannot detect it. You can use it to send all the messages you want and I will never hear them. Remember, you will have to discover this ICly before you can justify using it as a tactic. Please still mention sources and so called messages so I know about them OOCly but I will not act on them ICly.
Sertian
07-04-2009, 23:59
It's alright Balrogga, I actually appreciate it. Not many people seem to think that scanning into a subdimension that acts as a one-way sieve for gravity leaking out of Real Space would be one HELL of a scanning challenge. :3

Anyway, the frigate will most likely drop out to make some sort of interaction... I was going to make it look like the Battlestar blew up the buoy but...
Balrogga
08-04-2009, 01:56
Nice post. Good job.

I am holding off posting so I can delay bringing in the frigate and to give the OP a chance to react to my post.

I will address your submission if there is a reason for me to catch the probe in my scans since I am "looking" at the battlestar and outwards. We were here first and had already scanned the planet so we know there is nothing there to watch for.

Oops, shame on me for assuming...

Anyways, the buoy is only for dramatic effects, to lay claim on the system while we are here to mine the Neutron star. Since we are nomadic, we will pass on and leave the system when we are done. That is my IC standard actions. The buoy is to make legitimate claims upon empty systems using "accepted galactic standards". Lay claim and then move in. I am trying to really set things up for the mistake that will cause the plotline to continue. I am moving closer trying to communicate giving him options to have my stuff cause what would be perceived as attacks which are innocent comms and other things.
Orinon
08-04-2009, 04:59
Yeah, i know. My commander is a angry person.
here is a quick, and rough, thingy of the ICO Home Fleet.

70 Battlestars, varying in size but most are about 2 KM in length.
120 Auron class Cruisers.
200 Deleris Class Frigates.

Yeah, only 3 ship types.
Balrogga
08-04-2009, 05:50
Has the language barrier been broken? I was assuming we still have no way to understand each other.
Orinon
08-04-2009, 06:53
Has the language barrier been broken? I was assuming we still have no way to understand each other.

Nope. we still can't understand eachother.
Balrogga
08-04-2009, 08:24
Just making sure since it kinda sounded like you replied to my message. When do you want me to bring in my frigate?
Orinon
08-04-2009, 08:28
whenever. Just don't blow the Unforgiven to pieces
Balrogga
08-04-2009, 08:50
If I did that, how would I be able to follow it back home as you indicated was the origional plot. So far I have not activated a single weapon but my general power levels for my ship are so high you might think it is fully charged or something.

OOCly, the only thing I have online are standard ship defenses (Sheilds, Point Defense systems, ect...). My weapons are ready but unpowered meaning I have possible targeting set up but that is all. It would be illogical to try to make a first contact with gunports open and weapons charged, although I do have to admit there are times shotgun diplomacy is effective.

Right now everything hinges on your actions.
Orinon
08-04-2009, 09:00
well, right now i'm waiting for a reply, so in the words of Starbuck: GET THE FRAK GOING!!!!
The Fedral Union
08-04-2009, 10:27
*idly monitors every one*
Balrogga
09-04-2009, 03:45
You have your reply. It took a little time to get all the posts together but I responded to every one I could read.

If your drives are not like the show's in any way, contact me either through TGs or on MSN and we can figure out any changes. I instead turned it into a common play by the Colonials, fire and jump away using the weapon's fire to try and disguise their heading.
Orinon
09-04-2009, 07:21
yeah, my FTL's are the same as the shows.
Balrogga
09-04-2009, 07:40
Now that hostilities has started, lets do this logically. Those closest to the battle should have the first option to react. They are closest and inside the action after all and it takes time for ships further away to react and to travel there. You most likely will get there after the battlestar jumps away.

I will refrain from posting until Avenio responds to the attack. I ask that others follow this example. Remember you have to get there before you can attack or you might hit Avenio's three ships or my two for we all are under a few thousand KM from the battlestar. At distance, we three would merge into a single target due to gravity distortions, power fluctuations, and the mighty Plot Device.

If everyone came in guns blazing the battlestar would not be able to escape to make the rest of the Thread.
Balrogga
10-04-2009, 20:14
OK, what is the next step you want us to take now that the intro is over?

Please let us know here so we can all coperate to make your story.

My ships will come to the assistance of the crippled Leaf Chorus in a few minutes after they clear the cobwebs.

One thing I want to know, is this "war" going to include anyone on Orinon's side? Right now it is a little one sided.
Orinon
10-04-2009, 21:37
Yeah.
I only just noticed that.
I need allies!!
Balrogga
10-04-2009, 21:56
Let's hold off any reprisals until we can get some help for him. Of course that leaves us time to heal back at the battlefield but let's not proceed with the followup against Orinon until we get things more balanced.
TRIAD Enterprises
11-04-2009, 01:35
Well unfortunately I arrived on the scene too late to do much in the way of assist the poor Battlestar. I don't know if my various purchased tech could feasibly track a Colonial FTL jump (which is little understood even by fans of the show :( so eh.). However, for the moment the TRIAD ship will just be trying to be the 'fly on the wall' unless or until someone spots her.
Balrogga
11-04-2009, 02:04
After things settle down from the confusion of battle and the chaos left behind after the battleship's explosive departure I will scan everything to make sure there are no cowardly sneaks hiding about (we view cloaks as cowardly while coloring yourself to appear as to not be there as tactical - go figure...)

If anyone wants to be on Orinon's "side" of this series of miscommunications please speak up here so we all know OOCly and can arrange something that makes sense to the RP.
Avenio
11-04-2009, 02:24
I'll have the Dominion support ships arrive a bit later, after Orinon acquires some allies and we get things organised.
TRIAD Enterprises
11-04-2009, 03:07
Okay, quick pre-emptive clarification about the Destiny's stealth systems. They are *very* efficient at masking most of the *usual* sources of detection. Exotic forms of sensors (Tachyon, neutrino, gravitic, dimensional, etc) will likely pick them up. The hull is the FT equivalent of RL stealth systems (Radar absorbtion surfaces, scattered reflectivity, etc). Also, the heat sinks are short-term only. Eventually she'll have to vent that built up heat somewhere, and that increases the chances of detection (but doesn't mean automatic, but I'm usually willing to roll with the punches for the sake of story).

So, what's all my ass-covering really mean?
No, we don't have Trek-style cloaking devices, we've got very good stealth paint on. If you RP a reasonable way to detect her, I'll run with it. =^.^=
Balrogga
11-04-2009, 03:58
Your stealth tech does not bother me, I was just making a comment how the Ta'Nar view the two different extremes.

But seriously, we need to locate some others to side with Orinon or this will crash very quickly. Perhaps if newcommers might detect the battlestar and go there instead and make first contact with Orinon. It is ultimately up to him for this is his Thread.
TRIAD Enterprises
11-04-2009, 06:54
Question for Surrogate, hope he's monitoring this OOC thread.

Is your organism identical to the Beast encountered by Kiith Somtaaw, or is it merely similar in nature?
The Surrogate
11-04-2009, 07:00
>.> For mechanics purposes its identical. so yes i guess.
Balrogga
11-04-2009, 08:31
When I created the Kythons, I used the Beast idea of infection.

Please describe what these red beams you are shooting actually are here so I know what effect they may have on my systems. Hopefully they are just normal energy type attacks for I really did not want to use the nastier aspects of my nation in this RP.
TRIAD Enterprises
11-04-2009, 09:07
Since he's basing his contagion on the Beast, I'll give you the rundown. The organism is essentially viral in nature. It spreads through a combination of organic and mechanical nano-particles. These particles can be carried along low-density plasma discharges, which is what comprises those 'red beams'.

Once the Beast encounters organic or mechanical substance, it begins replicating exponentially, much like Von Neumann machines. The pathogen will intrude on electronic and optical computer systems and attempt to subvert them. When infecting organic material (Such as ships crews), the cellular structures are broken down and altered into simple neural clusters which will continue to grow and become neuro-processing nodes for the overall colonial super-organism.

The more it eats, the smarter it gets.

There are only two known methods for combating the pathogen. The first is to flush all infected areas of a ship with high-density plasma or other energies, in essence scuttling all infected surfaces.
The second method is with equally aggressive nano-colonies. Note that in either case, anyone who is infected is already lost.

Note that most of the above information, particularly known weakness and combat techniques, apply simply to known information from the pathogen's original universe. In the less restrictive environment of NS space, both the pathogen itself, as well as potential prey may and likely will possess new abilities.

Bottom line... Don't let it get close enough to infect you.
Balrogga
11-04-2009, 10:13
Oh, I don't have to worry about Infection.

Remember, I said based my stuff on that very same idea since I played Cataclysm years ago.

I just wanted to know if the red beam was an energy attack or an infection attack.
TRIAD Enterprises
11-04-2009, 10:19
Ahhhh. Well then, my guess is that it's trying an infection attack. Least I hope so, otherwise my last post really jumped the gun and screwed the pooch.
=^.^=
Sertian
11-04-2009, 10:20
I talked to the person (after all, I was the one who suggested taking one of my ships as it's mother ship. x3), the horns are infection beams, and since he described the attacks as coming from them - I assume they are.

He'd have to confirm that though.
Balrogga
11-04-2009, 10:31
I am waiting on confirmation from the player.

In a nutshhell, Thur'Tahg is a living mindless psychreactive metal that Shipmind controls. It "infects" at a subatomic level meaning the celular level beast infection would be subverted at its foundation. I have been trying to avoid using these properties alltogether in the RP as well as the Kythons themselves composing the ship (Shipmind is the merging of their collective minds) because it would take the RP above a level I felt Orinon wished. Another player and myself origionally designed these together so us two could take out the GE by ourselves but never actually started the RP.

It is for this reason I have only been using basic to moderate defenses and planned on sticking to beam cannons and other "conventional" weapons for now. I will still take damage from the plasma/energy attacks but the rest of you should take out the Infected vessel. I am kinda busy trying to save the crippled ship from the damage it has taken and now has to either transfer the crew or find some way to destroy the infection without knowing ICly about the plasma trick for I don't know about the Beast ICly.

If anyone wants to talk to me on MSN, send me your address using telegram and I will add you. Orinon and Red Talons both have my MSN and afe free to give it to others in this RP if they ask.
The Surrogate
11-04-2009, 11:49
Yes, i'm using the infection beams. I had aimed one for the crippled vessel, and one for Bal's ship, which gets hit like a particle beam would hit.

and bal, nice idea on the ship design. bloody brilliant, i wish i had thought of it *grins*
Balrogga
11-04-2009, 12:01
Thanks, I have more which I will reveal as they appear.

These are designs I have been using for a couple years here now (I did update the frigate to something I liked better which I saw in a web comic) but I am sure most here have not seen them. DOGA is a wonderful free program to build stuff with
Orinon
12-04-2009, 02:37
Epp.
What did i miss?
TRIAD Enterprises
12-04-2009, 03:29
I'll be refraining from any further posts till Orinon, Balrogga, and Surrogate have a chance to post themselves.

Surrogate: Up to you if any and how much damage the star-fire cannon my frigate uses will do, but if you're close enough to the Homeworld's Beast, then there is within the game fiction that standing orders protocol to flush infected areas on capships with drive plasma to sterilize the infection.
Oh, and just an FYI, on another RP forum TRIAD encountered the Hiigarans and actually took part in a Beast storyline. Since then all the data on the Beast was added to central databases and distributed to all AIs, classified as an Omega (A potentially genocide-level threat).
Wasn't sure someone might call foul for how I knew what Surrogate was doing, so wanted to FYI here. Anyways, enjoying myself so far, hope I don't get blown out of the sky, I've only a small fleet so far so every frigate counts.

Balrogga: Ummm, what is DOGA? And do you have AIM by chance?
Balrogga
12-04-2009, 04:19
I don't use AIM. Check to see if you can enter a hotmail account into AIM and if you can try beldragos@hotmail.com and others in theis Thread can add me to their accounts but please identify yourself when you do.

DOGA is a free CGI software that allows you to assemble objects using the "lego" methos (ie parts). There is a link in my sig that takes you to a site where the hyperlink is (under Links...DOH!). The basic program is free but if you want to be able to use the animation features it will cost $40. I have been using it for years without expanding to the upper abilities to make models (ships, robots, guns, buildings, scenes, and even a guitar for a challenge) so you don't have to pay a thing. The links I posted in the IC Thread are to ships I used DOGA to create. The Destroyer and the Frigate. As I bring in other models I will link images of them here too.

I will try to get a post up later tonight between work and homework assignments.
The Great Lord Tiger
12-04-2009, 22:26
'Eyyyyy

Who needs some bodies/guns?
Orinon
12-04-2009, 23:06
ME!
I need allies!
This is turning into a one-sided war!
Balrogga
12-04-2009, 23:06
Orinon needs people on his side.

Initially it was supposed to be a little skirmish but several people showed up in my territory and the way things fell it turned out to be him against everyone else.

I am reducing my potential way down to provide a balanced RP because there are several newer players here and it would not be fun for them.

Ultimately it is up to Orinon, this is his story and we are just the actors.
The Great Lord Tiger
12-04-2009, 23:49
Okay, I really just need to say this: Gaiaton is wanking the fuck out of this thread. 30 Destroyers is acceptable, but...

"Then send for reinforcements! We have that attack force returning from the cancelled invasion. 20,000 ships! How long will it take for them to get here?"

NS page says population of 40 million. That's one ship per 2000 people, civilian or otherwise. Please, don't do that. My navy has around 300 ships divided by 1.3 billion -- 1 ship per 4.3 million people. Please get your proportions right. I can't RP with people who exaggerate the numbers of their ships like they're tanks -- which I think is the cause here.
Orinon
12-04-2009, 23:57
He dosn't matter. I already proved that his weapons are ineffective against my Battlestars, so if he sends 20000 ships, i'll just Supernova his ass ;)
TRIAD Enterprises
13-04-2009, 00:32
I know I'm new on the block, but if I could get some kind of response from Surrogate, Balrogga, and Avenio about the Destiny attacking the infected ship?
Just dun want to get ignored like Gaition, and I'm not even wanking with a single small frigate. :(
The Great Lord Tiger
13-04-2009, 00:36
He dosn't matter. I already proved that his weapons are ineffective against my Battlestars, so if he sends 20000 ships, i'll just Supernova his ass ;)

Yes, well, as I said ICly, according to Tigerian standards, YOUR supernova weapon is quite ineffective. It yielded a bunch of radiation. ICly, is that fine? It's part of my speech :)

And... OUR supernova weapon actually reaches a full zettaton of yield (that is, 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 of conventional explosive). It doesn't just look pretty, it can make a planet disappear completely. 'Course, this is at the risk of a black hole forming... :eek:
Orinon
13-04-2009, 00:48
eck.
Yeah thats fine.
And my Supernova works better in a atmosphere. Its designed to blow a chunk out of the planet, so that the planets orbit gets stuffed up and it either drifts towards the systems star, cooking the planet to a crisp, or the planet drifts away from the star, which freezes the planet.

Oh, and black holes?
There seems to be too many weapons in the universe that create those....
>.>
The Great Lord Tiger
13-04-2009, 00:52
The point is that ours doesn't. We realize that there is a problem with black holes as a weapon -- mainly, you can't control them, and their mere presence in a solar system will f**k everything up forever. So... we force the forming black hole to explode, and nuclear forces do the rest. We have a 95% success rate. Don't ask about the 5% fail rate. Poor planet -- it had just breached its Space Age, too.
Avenio
13-04-2009, 01:00
TRIAD, I attacked Surrogate too, I'm still waiting for a response as well. When one attacks someone, you wait for them to determine how much damage it causes. I had decided to wait until Orinon acquires allies before taking further action.
Balrogga
13-04-2009, 02:55
I also worded my post so that I automatically fire if the infected ship crosses the artificial horizon caused by being attached to the Leaf Chorus into my range to fire. I have spoken to the Surrogate and they understand this and has been given permission to post me firing if they do.

Avenio, I have just noticed your sig is 12 lines. People will complain about it to mods and the mods will change it to the maximum 8 lines. If you want to keep certain elements, I suggest you do so yourself before someone complains and a Mod does.

One last question, do we want to change this event into a Sphere of Influence Thread? If everyone else does we can do it.
Avenio
13-04-2009, 02:58
Ah, thanks Balrogga, I'll fix that.
(Just fixed it)
Balrogga
13-04-2009, 03:22
Tiger, do you want to join Orinon's side?

We have had this whole thing escalate over misspoken words, mistaken intentions, and other elements that would choke a greek tragedy on irony alone. I could snap at you (due to the situation) and tell you where you should put your (percieved) additude.

What do you think?
The Great Lord Tiger
13-04-2009, 03:59
Well, as for sides... Call us the neutral third party. The presence of a full combat fleet brings everyone to realize that this situation has gone too far, too fast, and in too little time.

Or someone can feel free to shoot at me.
Balrogga
13-04-2009, 05:05
I just might for bringing a full combat fleet into my territory
Sertian
13-04-2009, 07:17
Well, as for sides... Call us the neutral third party. The presence of a full combat fleet brings everyone to realize that this situation has gone too far, too fast, and in too little time.

Or someone can feel free to shoot at me.

Welcome, to the third party. We don't matter. :3
Orinon
13-04-2009, 07:19
Welcome, to the third party. We don't matter. :3

Do something horriblely stupid or something.
This is gonna turn into a 3 sided war if you don't pick a side.
Sertian
13-04-2009, 07:45
Hey, I'm just an observing force! That is trying to get you to destroy one of our scout cruisers that was allowed to fall into a deadly infectious plague. >_>;

'Sides, the only collected Squadron of vessels that could constitute an 'attack force' are just past the Galactic Rim and several days travel away... Other than that, I just have scout cruisers and frigates moving to and fro and keeping tabs on everyone. :3
Orinon
13-04-2009, 07:48
Hey, I'm just an observing force! That is trying to get you to destroy one of our scout cruisers that was allowed to fall into a deadly infectious plague. >_>;

'Sides, the only collected Squadron of vessels that could constitute an 'attack force' are just past the Galactic Rim and several days travel away... Other than that, I just have scout cruisers and frigates moving to and fro and keeping tabs on everyone. :3

So your nation is a bunch of intergalactic spies?
Sertian
13-04-2009, 07:58
So your nation is a bunch of intergalactic spies?

I wouldn't broil it down that far, but, pretty much that's all we're doing right now. o.o
Orinon
13-04-2009, 21:35
I wouldn't broil it down that far, but, pretty much that's all we're doing right now. o.o

See? If you broil it down, your always gonna be right ;)
TRIAD Enterprises
14-04-2009, 01:41
Mmmmm, Sertian broil. *lipsmack*
Balrogga
15-04-2009, 10:51
I am waiting to find out if the threat of the Surrogate was eliminated by the destruction of The Leaf Chorus. If it has then I will bring in my other ships as was the IC orders. If not, I have to wait until it was destroyed. It will probably be my next post when I do this.




@ TGLT

Is my last post enough to make you snap and go beserk? For sake of balance I have not been considering using my most dangerous weapons, it would not be fair to the other players. If you want to help Orinon against me and the others send him a TG or tell him here. We still need people on his side and that is the main thing holding up the RP.
The Great Lord Tiger
15-04-2009, 15:35
Just a wee bit.

Post in thread.

BTW: Slipspace is our friend, even though your people don't know it yet. If we wanted (which we will, should it come to it), our 1-megaton Despair missiles (of which most Imglotian ships possesses at least 10 batteries) have been recently fitted with the small scale Unity-type Slipspace drive, meaning that nuclear weapons can appear BEHIND your ship. Just another way of changing things up, brought to you by the Immortal Lands, and I do so hope that, if war arises, your people are taken aback by an missile assault from all directions, including ones where there are no enemies and (by extension) few defenses.
Orinon
15-04-2009, 21:06
You cunning bastard.
Balrogga
15-04-2009, 21:37
Good thing I use bubble shields as already described in the RP. There is just one facing for them, outside and the sphere is one of the strongest shapes in nature.

also, my sheilds act as damage reduction so the Hull is what will compensate for the damage.
The Great Lord Tiger
15-04-2009, 21:43
That's fine and well. What happens when they materialize right next to your ship, though? Slipspace is bound by nothing in the dimension of reality.

But, hey, let's not let a war start, shall we? Just back down and no one on either side gets hurt.

EDIT: I even hinted at that.

I do not care what reality-distorting bullshit you have going on -- the laws of physics can only be bent so far in this dimension.
Balrogga
15-04-2009, 22:51
Technically the shields I mentioned is an area effect generated by my drives and extends outward in a sphere that resembles a purple bubble which is faintly transparent. Energy from attacks are dissipated when within this region which acts as damage reduction. There will always be something that makes it through every time and that is what my various hull defenses are for. For this reason there is no "inside shields” because they are not actually shields but instead they are damage reduction fields. I let the amount of damage through based upon the RP, not a fixed value.

As far as yielding, the Ta'Nar are very territorial of the systems they claim since they are nomadic and are only in one or two at a time. They view you as invading their territory. They cannot justify using colonization as a basic for claiming a system since they do not colonize planets, instead moving from one system to another mining the stars of super heavy elements for their reactors and weapons (never used ICly). They don't take over systems for conquest and would at most possess two systems at once, the one they are in and the one they are heading to. EDIT: And they have already left the last one so this is their sole territory in the galaxy at this moment. You can understand why they would laugh at your conquest claims. Also, they really do believe they are the top of the evolutionary ladder and are the next best thing to just about anything.

I am not trying to be difficult as a player (but guilty as a character). The Ta'Nar were the first in the system after all and claimed it for their own. The next post will be the ten minute mark where the rest of my stuff arrives through the wormholes.

Oh, in case you missed it earlier, each of my ships will detect to have the mass of a small star and immense power readings. This is because of the mass shadow of the singularity in their drives and is a drawback I made so I cannot use cloaks or hide behind planets although a star might hide me until you noticed the strange reading. Please note they only detect as having that mass and actually do not. They possess a normal gravity well for a vessel of their real mass due to the gravity from the singularity being contained.

By the way, I am refraining from posting until I know what happened to the Surrogate ship in the explosion.
Balrogga
16-04-2009, 12:00
Finished my edit and I kept my weapon power to a minimum as agreed with the Thread Starter. Not a shot fired.
The Great Lord Tiger
16-04-2009, 19:40
As far as yielding, the Ta'Nar are very territorial of the systems they claim since they are nomadic and are only in one or two at a time. They view you as invading their territory. They cannot justify using colonization as a basic for claiming a system since they do not colonize planets, instead moving from one system to another mining the stars of super heavy elements for their reactors and weapons (never used ICly). They don't take over systems for conquest and would at most possess two systems at once, the one they are in and the one they are heading to. EDIT: And they have already left the last one so this is their sole territory in the galaxy at this moment. You can understand why they would laugh at your conquest claims. Also, they really do believe they are the top of the evolutionary ladder and are the next best thing to just about anything.

But we are making, have made, and will be making NO conquest claims. Point out one place where Jeth said, "We are taking over this world". We said that we were in the system to maintain peace if anyone threatened it, because of a planet-killing superweapon being detected, and then have since been threatened and killed (life support, see IC) by your people when we have done absolutely nothing. Read this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14272738&postcount=5), it's something I literally came up with while lying in bed a few weeks ago :p -- I didn't just invent it for the RP, post edit time notwithstanding. It's refers to my first IC fleet engagement months ago, and what I wrote there is exactly what happened -- an admiral decided to start spontaneously blowing shit up. That's among the information now being transferred to you IC-ly. I do hope that this belief is part of your IC-ness, that you're convinced that I was taking action.

As Jeth said, now is the moment of judgment; your peoples are one who see themselves as the highest in the world, and TBH, I didn't see this post when I made my IC plea to Galladu. All the same, two options exist: You at least let us go, or Galladu gets angrier and takes our ship. BTW: Those Nova missiles can and will explode to sacrifice the ship (procedure), and that's 10 stars exploding in your system. Hell, I'll even accept that some of them were disabled by your tech (which, as I said, I feel is kinda... over the top, but I went with it), but even one exploding is a full zettaton of conventional explosive (1 sextillion tons). Perhaps, if you take the latter route, your underofficers will remember that we said that we possess supernova weaponry and relate it to Galladu?
Balrogga
16-04-2009, 23:20
Just a quick note

This RP is based on miscommunication after miscommunication piling up to creqte a situation where a war was started. That is the reason Orinon and myself were not able to communicate initially and the reason for many deliberately (OOCly) made mistakes.

Also, I have reduced my weapon strengths for this RP to be simular to the other players as requested by Orinon. I believe he wished this for everyone. I also am not using my non-conventional weaponry. the Drive Destabilizers were only used on your main ships and not your fighters. They could be considered target specific FTLi if you wish which is based of quantum interferance so if you can prevent the interferance your drives would work. IMHO this is much more balanced than the single global FTLi many people use because it takes at least an equal number of ships to take out the targets instead of some hidden instalation making a whole fleet useless without any chance to resist. If your ship has resisted due to some fluke in sheilding or even your hull configuration, that is OK. You have then found a loophole or a defense you can expand upon for the future.

One last thing, like I said earlier, my nation is a primarily space race that does not colonize planets. They remain aboard their ships and all are considered military (I am running at about 1% of my NS population to simulate their pure military structure) so there are no civilians.

I am not being an asshole, just acting in the manner requested by Orinon, the Thread maker because he needed an enemy like this for his story and I am merely playing the part handed to me. I have no animosity toward you as a person, just in character. so you don't have to worry, just have fun with the miscommunications. If you want to use them to have an IC reason to join Orinon go ahead. If you want to get out of the Thread then that is fine. Triad is planning on using the Thread primarily for a First Contact and then leave himself. The choice is yours and I will not let this Thread cloud later interactions since we might be playing roles opposite to our normal playing style. I hope you don't decide to bail.
The Great Lord Tiger
16-04-2009, 23:28
No, by no means, I am enjoying the miscommunication RPing. It's great fun to RP.

Ummm... I'll retcon the fighters, then. But our FTL drives (Hantog Drives) are directly linked to the reactors, and as such, you can't disable them without targeting the power -- hence the sporadic power outages.

Okay, idea: fighters can't land because the Raptor's hangar bays are stuck open, and vacuums are bad. You good with that?

And we don't know about your citizenry, or lack thereof. Perhaps Galladu can explain it to us and let us go with massive warning? :awesome:
Balrogga
16-04-2009, 23:34
I just sent you a TG with my hotmail address. If you wish to talk offline so we can get things settled and explained without these miscommunications spreading to OOC land please add me.
The Great Lord Tiger
16-04-2009, 23:37
NS II RPing: SERIOUS BUSINESS. :P
Telros
16-04-2009, 23:51
O....k......I will be coming in on the side of Orinion, since he needs some help, and from what I understand, Bal is fighting him and he needs someone who can at least stand up to Bal numbers and logistics wise. I will be putting up a post soon, after I do some reading. Anything I need to know before I head into this Greek tragedy of a rp?
Orinon
17-04-2009, 00:42
Apart from the no gabillion ship fleet and no lazors of death rules, no there isn't.
POSTPOSTPOST!!!
Balrogga
17-04-2009, 00:48
I have made the system a fortress to crack while I am gathering my superheavies from the Neutron star. When I locate the next system I will then move on abandoning this system. If we are still fighting at that time you will find the enemy has suddenly dissappeared with no warning. Our territory would have changed and we are fighting for our territory. Another aspect of the tragedy, if Orinon would wait a month i would have left the system. Gotta love them.
TRIAD Enterprises
17-04-2009, 00:56
Only thing I would say is that we've got a handful of large-ish fleets (Tiger, Balrogga, Avenio, and Orinion), and a few small groups (Sertian, Red Talons, and me)... While the big guys seem eager (OOCly at least) for a fight, I'm not so sure any of us smaller guys could survive even the crossfire.

So try not to shoot us little guys right off? =^.^=
Balrogga
17-04-2009, 01:05
That is why I am "pulling punches" for the little guys and actually have not fired a single shot in the RP. (I don't consider the DDD to be weapons but a contermeasure like other nations think of FTLi)
Orinon
17-04-2009, 01:14
Hell, i'm not even considering my fleet to be big compared to Tiger and Balrogga.
AND most, if not all, of my ships are smaller then most of their ships.
Balrogga
17-04-2009, 01:19
My ships are rather small except for the carriers and dreads as well as my two stations which would technically be my homeworlds. Also, remember I am matching my weapon strength to that used against me for balance.

Frigate - 60 meters
Destroyer - 120 meters
Cruiser - 140 meters
Battleship - 180 meters
The Great Lord Tiger
17-04-2009, 01:26
Also, remember that Imglot wants to get the f*** out of Dodge, if Warlord Galladu allows it. War is the last thing we want at this time.

EDIT: Since everyone is showing off the size of their... ships...

Plague-Class Destroyer: 800 meters
Demon-Class Cruiser: 1.6 kilometers
Death-Class Battleship: 2.2 kilometers
Raptor-Class Carrier: 2.6 kilometers
Apocalypse-Class Capital Ship: 26.7 kilometers

You can see the obvious size difference, and our own ships are dwarfed, let alone everyone else's.
Orinon
17-04-2009, 01:26
oh good.
ok, here are my ship sizes.

Deleris Classes-120 meters
Auron Classes- 600 meters
Galactica Class Battlestars- 2km
Pegasus Class Battlestars- 2.4km
Endeavour Class Battlestars- 2.8km
Avenio
17-04-2009, 01:37
Here are my ship sizes as well.

Autonomous Frigate - 100m

Experimental Cruiser - 600m

Dreadnought - 4km cubed

Command Dreadnought - 4.2km cubed
TRIAD Enterprises
17-04-2009, 01:57
Might as well join the bandwagon.

TRIAD Hulls:

Strike Craft
Microships: Unmanned, tiny droneships
Sensor Drone (Whisker) - 1m spheroid
Leech Drone (Lamprey) - 5m long
Shield Drone (Sentinel) - 8m spheroid

Fighter Sized: 1-2 crew / 10-40m long
Corvettes: 3-8 crew / 70-100m long

Warships (Capitol Sizes)
Frigates: 25-40 Crew / 150-200m Long
Destroyers: 50-70 Crew / 200-300m Long
Cruisers: 150-200 Crew / 400-500m Long
Battleships: 300-500 Crew / 600-900m Long
Dreadnoughts: 600-1200 Crew / 1km-1500m Long
Titans: 2000-3000 Crew / 2km-4km Long

Note, the above crew ranges are for fully mechanical ships without integrated Digital Entities (Shipminds). Right now the largest ship in active service in my fleet are five Destroyers, and all ships are currently bioships with intalled DEs. This drops the crew of a frigate to 10 and a destroyer to 30, but with similar size ranges.
Sertian
17-04-2009, 02:08
So, what's been going on and, more importantly, is my probe still alive? 8D
Orinon
17-04-2009, 02:14
Yes, your probe is still alive, and Balgorra has jumped his entire fleet into the system.
Oh and wildly unlikely post to get the story moving, CHECK!
Sertian
17-04-2009, 02:57
And the state of the Surrogate ship? Still crashed into the dreadnought? o.o
The Great Lord Tiger
17-04-2009, 02:59
That's what I guess Balrogga is waiting for.

I hate stalls.
Orinon
17-04-2009, 02:59
And the state of the Surrogate ship? Still crashed into the dreadnought? o.o

Nah, it wrapped out before the dreadnoughts black hole could kill it.
Balrogga
17-04-2009, 03:05
Actually I am at work right now.
The Great Lord Tiger
17-04-2009, 03:06
Well, yes, I meant when you got the chance to post...
Balrogga
17-04-2009, 03:13
Orinon, what do you want us to do with your ship arriving like this? Do you want us to fire at if thinking it is invading? If we establish talks then the whole war concept might be finished right there.

What are your intentions? Please tell us so we can react accordingly.
Orinon
17-04-2009, 03:33
Well, a blind jump would most likely knock out a few systems.
So....Communication is out of the question.
Balrogga
17-04-2009, 03:36
I mean, what do you want us to do with this ship? Do you want us to go trigger happy and blow it away? Do you want us to board it? Do you want us to send flowers and candies?

We need a direction so we can do what you want.
Orinon
17-04-2009, 03:38
Its an unknown Battlestar.
Make a huge mistake and think its the Unforgiven and try to blow it to hell.
The Great Lord Tiger
17-04-2009, 03:47
Oh, dear.
Avenio
17-04-2009, 04:52
Ok, I posted attacking the Battlestar, so its up to Orinon now.
Orinon
18-04-2009, 00:18
Ok, now I'M waiting for Avenio to reply to the Bloody Mary's ramage.
Orinon
18-04-2009, 01:57
OK, time for everyone to pick sides.
Balrogga
18-04-2009, 03:17
I get to pick sides?
Orinon
18-04-2009, 05:31
lol
i dunno, just roll with it
Orinon
18-04-2009, 09:49
Ok, Tiger, Tone down the weapons to be on par with everyone else.
Its not much of a war when your missiles can blow up entire star systems!
Balrogga
18-04-2009, 12:13
Sertain, I assume you are talking about me when you said Immortal Empire and that the mistake was made on purpose to further the many already made.
Sertian
18-04-2009, 12:44
It was actually a mistake I did not intend to make (was it Eternal Empire?). I'm going to roll with it and have the officer that made the mistake docked in pay in a later post. x3
Balrogga
18-04-2009, 13:57
Fallen Empire of Balrogga or the Ta'Nar Empire.

Either one works.

If you want, you can propagate the misconception and blow it out of proportion however you wish. The whole RP is based on that same concept.
The Great Lord Tiger
18-04-2009, 13:59
I can't "tone down" anything because my nation's canon is set. I was listing the weapons available to me (check my Military page). Then you should have realized that a kinetic weapon was nothing, really, compared to what we're capable of.
Balrogga
18-04-2009, 14:55
Actually, kinetic weapons of anything larger than our RL military are typically maglev. All you have to do is vary the electrical charge to the magnets providing the electromagnetic field used to propel the slug and you can adjust the speed. A lower setting would provide a slower speed and obviously a higher setting would increase your muzzle velosity.
Orinon
20-04-2009, 04:15
All i know is that big gun o' doom = BAD
Avenio
20-04-2009, 04:31
I don't mean to be complain here, but you just launched 5 supernova missiles at me. Don't you think criticizing Imglot for using a powerful weapon, then using an even more powerful one just a little bit hypocritical?
Orinon
20-04-2009, 04:36
IYeah your properly right.
sorry.
I'm a hypocrite by nature.
i'll fix it.
Avenio
20-04-2009, 05:02
Don't worry about it. :) I figured out a way to get around the supernova, so don't bother changing it, but you may want to apologize to Imglot.
Orinon
20-04-2009, 05:11
*shouts out randomly* SORRY TIGER!!!!!
The Great Lord Tiger
20-04-2009, 21:15
Eh, I'm gone already, ICly. Whatever, FT fleet engagements are a dime a dozen in II.
Orinon
20-04-2009, 21:41
i Noticed.
There are , what, 3 wars going on right now.
Telros
21-04-2009, 05:32
You guys have no idea. FT used to be quite active and there'd be like eight wars going on at a time, and then there were the random fights. It's quieted down for a while, although that may change now with older people waking up again.
Balrogga
21-04-2009, 05:33
Waking up? I never fell asleep...
TRIAD Enterprises
21-04-2009, 09:41
I've been considering starting my own small-scale battle/engagement thread. However I have a small problem maybe you good folks might help with.

I'm not sure what to name the thread! *gasp*

Seriously though, sometimes my brain just falls asleep when it comes to storyline names. This is going to be very small-scale, as my total fleet only comprises maybe fifty ships, and I would only be contributing maybe a quarter that.
I just want to get my first taste of real combat on here.
Telros
21-04-2009, 17:13
I'd be happy to participate, ally or enemy.
Balrogga
21-04-2009, 22:56
@ Telros

I will be mistaking you as the Overlords for the Colonials.
Telros
22-04-2009, 02:29
I understand, Bal. I personally find it awesome.
Orinon
22-04-2009, 02:31
Same, yet it is shockingly evil to assume that.\
but meh, whatever.
Telros
22-04-2009, 02:42
This IS a conflict based on miscommuncations so....
Orinon
22-04-2009, 02:46
Good point there.
lol
Balrogga
22-04-2009, 02:47
Another reason is it would not be logical to send in two single attacks like you did (we don't know one was a blind jump and therefore an accident). It would then be logical you were told to make the attacks. The presence of a single ship would indicate someone was checking up on you for an alliance presence would warrent more than a single ship (unknown first contact vessel).

It helps cement your working relationship in our eyes and gives me a reason ICly to go after Telros and letting the others fight you instead of us thrree concentrating on your nation and disregarding the ships Telros brings in as mere the reinforcements they really are.

All another layer of misconceptions tossed into the mix that makes it really interesting.
Telros
22-04-2009, 02:55
I like it. I mean, I was going to have my hands full trying to battle Balrogga here, but also taking on the other guys would be too much for my small and powerful military to deal with. I have more of a chance (how much of one is to be seen) one on one with him than against everyone. Sorry Orinion, but unless a miracle happens, I don't see myself providing much aid beyond ground forces due to my navy's future struggle against the ancient might of Balrogga.
Orinon
22-04-2009, 03:07
everyone else my military could handle, that has been proven. Its just Balrogga that i would have trouble will.
Curse me and my fanboyism of Battlestar Galactica....
Mewsland
22-04-2009, 03:24
I'll hop in here as a force that stumbles on the conflict.
Orinon
22-04-2009, 03:28
aw man.
I'm considering closing this soon...
pretty much got all the people we need...
Balrogga
22-04-2009, 03:39
It is up to Orinon, this is his story and we are just the actors on his stage.
Balrogga
22-04-2009, 05:50
Moving the OOC off the IC Thread...

Which side will Mewsland be on? I would like to know before I make more "mistakes" and "misconceptions". Let's figure this out fast so I can post.
Orinon
22-04-2009, 05:54
I would prefer it if Mews was on my side
Balrogga
22-04-2009, 05:59
Then I shall think they are you comming in for a third (or is it fourth) attack and fire at them by "mistake".

Is this OK wih you Mewsland?
Mewsland
23-04-2009, 02:07
Mewsland doesn't even know what the heck is going on in the war, but go ahead. You'll get an urgent hail from Mew though, telling you what really happened.
Balrogga
23-04-2009, 02:20
I will post something after I got home from work tonight. Since I am acting uncharacteristically in order to fulfill the role Orinon wishes for me I will not take anything done to me beyond the scope of this RP. This means we can be allies after this Thread if things work out after us blowing the hell out of each other here.
Balrogga
23-04-2009, 07:27
On second thought, can you please change your arrival to Orinon's Tarnia System? I cannot see any logical reason for you to join him after we fire on you. You don't even know enough about any of this to pick sides. If you arrive in his system, you can get his version of the RP and decide to help him.

If you do this, it will be 3 VS 3, much more fair and it would fit logically too.
Sutufinai
23-04-2009, 19:22
May I join in? Please?
Orinon
23-04-2009, 23:41
Its an FT war.
And i now call this asCLOSED
Sutufinai
23-04-2009, 23:50
I do have an FT faction... But, okay. =(
Orinon
24-04-2009, 00:01
Sorry, but i got as many people as i want in this.
Not meaning to sound like an asshole.
Sutufinai
24-04-2009, 00:08
Nah, It's cool. I wouldn't have been a major player anyways. lol, goodluck! =D
Balrogga
24-04-2009, 00:33
Keep an eye out or send one of us a TG if you want something else done. There are always other Threads if you want to get something started and have a good idea.
Mewsland
24-04-2009, 00:34
okay. Updating posts as such.
Balrogga
24-04-2009, 02:13
We will give you three a few posts to "meet" each other before we get to the attack stage of the RP (providing I can get my two comrades into a good conversation ICly to waste time) or until you say you are ready.

EDIT: I know, the production of drone ships could take a little time to buy you the ability to meet and arrange things.
Avenio
26-04-2009, 04:51
Balrogga hasn't been online in a while, should we continue without him until he gets back?
Balrogga
26-04-2009, 06:28
Actually I have but I was giving the other side to do their necessary stuff while we built your extra drone frigates.

The first attack is supposed to be your ships to draw in the enemy with the bulk of the attack forces following in and my battlegroup going after the "Overlords"
Avenio
26-04-2009, 16:38
Sorry about that, should I start attacking now, or wait a little longer?
Balrogga
26-04-2009, 17:33
It is up to Orinon but as soon as he is ready we can. If he wants us to attack right now, it would be a reason for the third ally to join the two.
Balrogga
28-04-2009, 10:01
OOC: Bump?

As the enemy made plans, the Home Fleet continued to grow, as Battlestars and Auron Classes arrived home in the Tarnia system.

Status of Home Fleet.

143 Battlestars- 60 Galactica Classes, 45 Pegesus Classes, 38 Endeavour Classes.
187 Auron Classes
213 Deleris Classes



We are waiting for you to make your deal with Mewsland before we continue. If you look at the last post I made right above this it says so.

Please let us know when you are ready.
Balrogga
19-05-2009, 09:24
Are we able to continue this yet?
Orinon
19-05-2009, 20:32
I has no idea.
I was just thinking of rebooting it with some new people and use it as my FT nation's intro, seeing as my last one died rather fast. >.>
Balrogga
20-05-2009, 04:10
We could still use the same premise if you wished. If you do reboot I am sure Red Talons would be interested too and if you wish I can still be the mistaken bad guy.
Mewsland
20-05-2009, 04:11
I'm game for a reboot.
Orinon
20-05-2009, 05:44
yayayayay.
awesome