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To: Radar & Electronics Developing Corporations of the World
From: Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department
Subject: Next-Gen Radar & Avionics Needed

After the 15th failure in a row of the radar & electronic systems in the prototype Su-47MKB, the Belkalandian Luftwaffe had decided to scrap the current CAMALOT Intergrated Electronic System and is now seeking a replacement system.

It must be able to fit in a Su-47 class airframe and surpass the F-22As avionics. It also most be easily upgradeable in both software & hardware, require less maintence than the F-35As avionics, and finally, it must be produced in large number in Belkalandian factories by Belkalandians.

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Corporate Fax

To Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department,
From AeroJames Systems,

Upon receiving your request, we feel the need to inform you, that what you are asking for, is quite a large, and expensive task. You are talking about gutting an existing aircraft, and replacing the entire electrical system. This is a very difficult task, especially with the restrictions you are placing. The failures of the electrical system you have experienced, may show an underlying problem with the airframe. With a fly-by-wire aircraft, replacing the entire electrical system, is very difficult. We estimate, that it would be cheaper for you to simply design a new aircraft. However, if you still insist in undertaking such a project, we are willing to take the contract. We will give an initial estimate of $180,000,000 USD, and will require at least three Su-47 aircraft for testbeds. We await your reply of our offer.

Corporate Fax

To Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department,
From AeroJames Systems,

Upon receiving your request, we feel the need to inform you, that what you are asking for, is quite a large, and expensive task. You are talking about gutting an existing aircraft, and replacing the entire electrical system. This is a very difficult task, especially with the restrictions you are placing. The failures of the electrical system you have experienced, may show an underlying problem with the airframe. With a fly-by-wire aircraft, replacing the entire electrical system, is very difficult. We estimate, that it would be cheaper for you to simply design a new aircraft. However, if you still insist in undertaking such a project, we are willing to take the contract. We will give an initial estimate of $180,000,000 USD, and will require at least three Su-47 aircraft for testbeds. We await your reply of our offer.

To: AeroJames Systems
From: Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department

There has been a misunderstanding, the systems that are needing replacement is the radar & the avionics that feed data to the pilot, all of which is located in & around the cockpit. The electrical systems that is used to connect the avionics to the flight surfaces & sensors are working correctly and does not require replacement. However, if your proposal requires the replacement of it, it should not be a problem as we currently have only 10 Su-47MKB prototypes, no production models as of yet. If your estimate of $180,000,000 USD is still correct after this, we'll send $80,000,000 USD & 2 Su-47s to start development, the rest of the funds will come later when we see results that this contract will fill out.

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From: Groupe AIR Sales Department.
To: Belkalandian Luftwaffe.
Subject: Avionics and Radar.

Yanitarien Aérospatial would be willing to upgrade the Su-47MKB to YA-42E standards, at a price we may negotiate after you evaluate the system. Should you require, we can deliver a copy of a retired AARY Su-47 with the YA-42E avionics and radar.

Corporate Fax

To Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department,
From AeroJames Systems,

Your offer is acceptable. We apologize, for the misunderstanding, however. We took avionics, at its literal meaning of electronics of the aircraft. Now that you have been more specific on your intentions, specifying specifically the RADAR and cockpit systems, it is a much simpler process. However, as you have suggested, we will look into an entire overhaul of the system, with the possibility of providing a better one. Work will commence at once. Is there anything specific you were looking for?

From: Groupe AIR Sales Department.
To: Belkalandian Luftwaffe.
Subject: Avionics and Radar.

Yanitarien Aérospatial would be willing to upgrade the Su-47MKB to YA-42E standards, at a price we may negotiate after you evaluate the system. Should you require, we can deliver a copy of a retired AARY Su-47 with the YA-42E avionics and radar.

To: Groupe AIR Sales Department
From: Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department

You offer is good, however, Air Marshal Heinrick Tank has asked that the systems installed be superior to the YA-42E, but does not have to be superior to the YA-42. If this is acceptable, we can supply the Su-47MKB Airframe 102 and its support team to Yanitarien Aérospatial so that our team can learn & see how the new systems will operate in the Su-47MKB and if the testing is successful and a long term contract is signed, Belkaland will have a team ready to teach other teams on how to maintain the systems.

Corporate Fax

To Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department,
From AeroJames Systems,

Your offer is acceptable. We apologize, for the misunderstanding, however. We took avionics, at its literal meaning of electronics of the aircraft. Now that you have been more specific on your intentions, specifying specifically the RADAR and cockpit systems, it is a much simpler process. However, as you have suggested, we will look into an entire overhaul of the system, with the possibility of providing a better one. Work will commence at once. Is there anything specific you were looking for?

To: AeroJames Systems
From: Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department

We have nothing currently to be specific, only what we've previously stated.

Also, if it is determined that a total rework of the electrical system is needed, please contact us. If it does need the reworking we'll send the Su-47MKB Airframe 106 and its team to AeroJames Systems. This way, our team can learn & see how the new systems will operate in the Su-47MKB and if the testing is successful and a long term contract is signed, Belkaland will have a team ready to teach other teams on how to maintain the systems.

To: Groupe AIR Sales Department
From: Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department

You offer is good, however, Air Marshal Heinrick Tank has asked that the systems installed be superior to the YA-42E, but does not have to be superior to the YA-42. If this is acceptable, we can supply the Su-47MKB Airframe 102 and its support team to Yanitarien Aérospatial so that our team can learn & see how the new systems will operate in the Su-47MKB and if the testing is successful and a long term contract is signed, Belkaland will have a team ready to teach other teams on how to maintain the systems.

From: Groupe AIR Sales Department
To:Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department

We are willing to upgrade the entire avionics package to near-YA-42 standards, as much of the avionics have since become declassified and freely exportable with the release of the Am-24, YA-28, and Am-22.

From: Groupe AIR Sales Department
To:Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department

We are willing to upgrade the entire avionics package to near-YA-42 standards, as much of the avionics have since become declassified and freely exportable with the release of the Am-24, YA-28, and Am-22.

To: Groupe AIR Sales Department
From: Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department

That is acceptable. Shall we send the Su-47MKB Airframe 102 & its team or do you wish to use your own aircraft for this?

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OOC: I'm sorry to say, but that STARS systems just seems too close to Godmod to me. Capable of guiding unguided missiles? How is that even possible?

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To: Red Research Department (Radar and Avionics System Division) of Ministry of Science & Technology of Union Socialist State of Martilia

From: Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department

We are sorry to inform you, but your offered systems fails to meet the requirements put forth by our office. With only a small increase in range over the normal radar range, such a system is not considered cost-effective by the Belkalandian Luftwaffe.

OOC: No what I mean is that, there are guided missiles tomahawks and smart bombs unguided ones. Well if they input STARS IC, Smart Bombs can track a moving target and has increased accuracy.

(ADS) Advanced Detector System - ADS decreases the friendly fire in air battles. ADS tells who is your FRIEND or FOE regardless if the enemy is using your plane, or you are using your enemy's plane. ADS also relay information in the battlefield to the field bases or to your radar stations/installations.

<<OOC: How is this possible? If an ally is using an enemy plane you can't kill him? I'm sorry but it just doesn't seem realistic. After all, a while back when the US fought with Iraq, the US told Saudi Arabia to not fly or they would be shot down as their radar on the Mirages was the same as the Iraqi one.>>

OOC: Well it was really not full at all. Well if it could be realistic, the base stations or radar installations can change the status of the plane to enemy or ally. Problem is, if the radar installations we're controlled by the enemy, well you cant use missiles because it will attack your own planes. :)

To: Groupe AIR Sales Department
From: Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department

That is acceptable. Shall we send the Su-47MKB Airframe 102 & its team or do you wish to use your own aircraft for this?


From: Groupe AIR Sales Department
To:Belkalandian Luftwaffe Procurement Department

Our engineering team would feel more comfortable using the Su-47MKB airframe. Work can begin as soon as the airframe arrives, and will likely take between 1-3 months for the first plane, with a deadline set for 1 month and one week, barring any catastrophic failures.