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Federation of Lingard
Department of Defense
Department of The Navy

The Federation of Lingard wishes to aquire a Blue Water capable Navy. We are not large enough to produce our own ships therefore the DOD has decided to turn to outside for help in our Navy.
Our Requirements are-
-One Aircraft Carrier (With Aircraft)
-Four Cruisers
-Eight Destroyers
-Eight Frigates
-Two Attack Submarines.

Signed
Jenny Mason, Secutary of Defense.

Official communique from the Birkanian goverment
From: Admiral Lavrenty Krakev - commander of the Birkanian Navy
To: Lingardian DoD
Subject: Naval surplus
Importance: Average
Classification: Not classified. Free for distribution.

The Birkanian goverment would like to sell a few ships to the Lingardian Navy. The ships, despite having been retired from service in the Birkanian Navy, have been well-kept and are still capable of operating perfectly. The vessels are as it follows:

-One Kuznetsov-class Aircraft Carrier
--BkNV Admiral Zverda (15 Sukhoi-33D navalized Flanker, 5 Sukhoi Su-25UTG/UBP naval attack aircraft, 5 Ka-65 anti-submarine helicopter)
-Four Slava-class cruisers.
--BkNV Prostok
--BkNV Dmitri Gurdanov
--BkNV Admiral Kirshanov
--BkNV Razgriz Strait
-Eight Sovremenny-class destroyers
-Eight Neustrashimy-class frigates
-Two Victor II-class attack submarines
--K-96
--K14

All that would be sold at a price of 55 billion. The ships are currently unarmed (missiles will be reinstaled once you accept the deal), and we optionally offer you a Moskva-class anti-submarine helicopter carrier at a price of 3 billion.

To: Jenny Mason, Secretary of Defense
From: Michael Shipyards, CoDC
Re: Naval package

We propose the following package, which will require significant loans (barring financial assistance from other states, which is not uncommon), but which will provide you with a solid foundation for future naval expansion:
*1 AC-12 aircraft carrier, with 24 F-7N naval interceptors, 4 C-62NA carrier-borne AEW&C planes, 2 C-62N carrier-borne cargo planes, 20 A-4SU carrier strike planes, 4 SH-4 naval patrol helicopters, 12 P-700 Granit ship-to-ship missiles, 96000 rounds of 30mm HE-Frag & 96000 rounds of 30mm Frag-Tracer & 512 SA-N-11 (9M311M) Surface-to-Air Missiles & 36 SA-N-11 Captive Air Training Missiles & 36 SA-N-11 Dummy Air Training Missiles (for the Kashtan CIWS systems), 240 111SG depth-charge rockets with HE warhead & 180 111SZ mine-laying rockets & 120 111SO decoy rockets (for the UDAV-1 anti-sub countermeasure system), 55 RIM-116 missiles (for the SeaRAM CIWS mounts), and 40 SAM-97S short-range SAMs (for the Mk.6 VLS)
*4 MC-16 Flight II cruisers, each with 200 127mm shells (for the two 127mm naval guns), 12 Mk.48 ADCAP 533mm torpedoes (for the torpedo tubes), 2380x30mm HE-Frag & 2380x30mm Frag-T (for the Goalkeeper CIWS mounts), 66 RIM-116 missiles (for the SeaRAM CIWS mounts), 160 SCM-39 cruise missiles & 32 BrahMos hypersonic cruise missiles & 16 RUM-139 standoff anti-sub missiles & 8 SAM-97S short-range SAMs (for the VLS batteries), and 3 SH-4 maritime patrol helicopters
*8 DDH-30 Flight II destroyers (which remove the 533mm torpedo tubes and 1 Kashtan mount, and replace older US equipment with more modern CoDC equipment, including new radars and missiles; these cost $600 million), each with 32 RIM-66 SM-2 (for the Mk.41 VLS), 48,000 rounds of 30mm HE-Frag & 48,000 rounds of 30mm Frag-Tracer & 256 SA-N-11 (9M311M) Surface-to-Air Missiles & 18 SA-N-11 Captive Air Training Missiles & 18 SA-N-11 Dummy Air Training Missiles (for the Kashtan CIWS systems), 240 111SG depth-charge rockets with HE warhead & 180 111SZ mine-laying rockets & 120 111SO decoy rockets (for the UDAV-1 anti-sub countermeasure system), 16 SAM-97S missiles (for the Mk.6 VLS), 6 Mk.90 torpedoes (for the Mk.50 SVTT that replaces the 324mm torpedo tubes), 150x90mm DART anti-missile shells & 50x90mm HE shells (for the NG-31 that replaces the 76mm naval gun) and 10 SH-4 helicopters
*8 HS-12 light surface combatants, each with 150x90mm DART anti-missile shells & 50x90mm HE shells (for the NG-31), 16 CM-8 cruise missiles & 24 SAM-97S SAMs (for the VLS), 6 CS/TD-7 torpedo decoys & 6 Mk.90 torpedoes (for the Mk.50 SVTT), 300xB-15 Ball rounds (for the 15mm HMGs), and 2 SH-4 helicopters.
*2 AS-709 submarines, each with 5 Mk.8 large-bore torpedoes (for the 1000mm torpedo tube) and 12 Mk.48 ADCAP torpedoes (for the 660mm torpedo tubes).

We recommend that each SH-4 carry 6 Mk.90 torpedoes, each F-7N carry 225x27mm HE-Frag & 225x27mm Frag-T shells (for the cannon) and 6 AIM-120 AMRAAMs & 2 AAM-97 short-range AAMs, and each A-4SU carry 100x20mm HE-Frag & 100x20mm Frag-T shells, 6 Paveway IV 227kg laser-guided bombs, 2 AGM-65F anti-ship missiles, and 4 AAM-97 short-range AAMs.

Final package: 1 AC-12, 4 MC-16 Flight II, 8 DDH-30 Flight II, 8 HS-12, 2 AS-709; 24 F-7N, 4 C-62NA, 2 C-62N, 112 SH-4, 20 A-4SU; 2400x90mm DART shells, 800x90mm HE shells, 2400 B-15 ball bullets, 800x127mm shells, 489520x30mm HE-Frag, 489520x30mm Frag-T, 5400x27mm HE-Frag, 5400x27mm Frag-T, 2000x20mm HE-Frag, 2000x20mm Frag-T; 768 Mk.90 lightweight torpedoes, 10 Mk.8 large-bore torpedoes, 72 Mk48 ADCAP torpedoes; 48 CS/TD-7 torpedo decoys; 2160 111SG depth-charge rockets with HE warhead, 1620 111SZ mine-laying rockets, 1080 111SO decoy rockets; 392 SAM-97S, 256 RIM-66 SM-2, 319 RIM-116, 2560 SA-N-11, 180 SA-N-11 Captive, 180 SA-N-11 Dummy; 128 AAM-97, 144 AIM-120, 40 AGM-65F; 120 Paveway IV; 640 SCM-39, 128 CM-8, 12 P-700, 128 BrahMos; 64 RUM-139.

All items listed in italics or bold are proprietary products of the Confederacy of Defense Corporations.

The price we will offer for this package is $20.5 billion, a savings of over $1 billion. We are willing to accept a ten-year payment plan; your ships will be constructed in five years, regardless, if you accept the offer.

OOC: With that price they don't sound to be particularily reliable, especially seeing they're newly built ships, whereas mine are used. Pics?

OOC: No pictures, sadly. You're right - the ships (with the exception of the HS-12s and AS-709s, which are actually reasonably priced) aren't too reliable, and don't do well in rough seas, as they're poor seakeepers. Cheap designs, but with hidden costs. There are some savings in labor costs, but not sufficient savings to justify some of the prices - particularly for my destroyer; thus, cheaper, lower-quality materials are presumably used.

In general, anything posted to my new catalog (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=587171) is a sound design. So the ammunition is good, as are the corvettes and aircraft. It's just the other ships that suck.

I'm in the process of redesigning my ships, which will include a reassessment of pricing. By the time the new ships are ready to sell, perhaps Lingards will be ready for a proper navy, rather than a green-water navy with limited blue-water capability?

Comorostan is willing to sell Lingard some of its ships, as it is currently downsizing its navy.
Four Governor-class cruisers
Armament:
2x 8-inch guns
8x cruise missile silos (fits most types)
6x SAM silos (fits most types)
8x Thermopylae CIWS (4 on each side)
Landing pad for 1 helicopter

Federation of Lingard
Department of Defense
Department of The Navy

The Lingard Navy will accept the Governor class Cruisers from Comorostan, we request price please.
Other offers being considered on other items

Signed
Jenny Mason, Secutary of Defense.

Republic of the Battlehawk
Department Of Defense

The ROTB can offer one Allegiance Class Aircraft Carrier, as we are in the process of transitioning from the Alleginace class to a newer class. For the Price of 5 Billion USD, it's all yours, we will also offer a compliment of F-28C 'Talons' as well as AWACS aircraft, at added price of 25 Million USD

To the Federation of Lingard's Department of Defence; in particular the Department of The Navy,

From the Taboksol Songun Ministry of External Affairs and Foreign Trade,

Despite having no navy of our own, we noticed you were in need of aircraft, which is definately something we can provide. We offer 10 MiG-23s and 5 MiG-25s, both of them export variants. They will cost, for you, a special price of only $3.6 million per unit.

To Jenny Mason, Sec. Defense, Federation of Lingard
Fr: Dravislav Mirokovich, Sec. Defense, CFUS

The Commonwealth would like to bid it's own carrier, the Gibraltar-class (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13973436&postcount=29) for use by your navy. At $4.9 billion USD, the Gibraltar is the epitome of modern carrier design. It can come equipped with Rafale-B and F/A-18E fighters, as well as Su-33K's or our own F-43C Sleipnir stealth fighters. We hope for a pleasant response.

signed,
Dravislav Mirokovich

To: Jenny Mason, Secretary of Defense of The Federation of Lingard
From: United Earthling Military Systems [UEMS]
Subject: Naval Purchases

Dear Sir,

It was been brought to our attention that your government has submitted bids for the acquisition of various types of Naval vessels under the following requirements: One Aircraft Carrier (With Aircraft), Four Cruisers, Eight Destroyers, Eight Frigates and Two Attack Submarines. While, we are hesitant to offer specify suggestions without additional information on what specific capabilities in the above listed vessels you are looking for, we do however have a few suggestions to help you in your decision process.

Instead, of specific vessels we submit our offer of two Naval Packages to choose from. The First Package known as the Carrier Battle Group covers the following- 2 Carriers, 2 Cruisers, 8 Destroyers, 10 Frigates, 2 Nuclear Attack Submarines and 1 Supply Class AOE Auxiliary. Though, we regret to inform you that aircraft are not include with this package, at a price of $25.9 billion USD, this package should leave your budget with more then enough funds to purchase aircraft of your choosing.

Our Second Package offer is known as the Small Naval Package 2 and covers the following- 4 Carriers, 8 Amphibious/Assault Ships, 6 Battleships or Cruisers, 10 Destroyers, 12 Frigates, 6 Nuclear Attack Submarines, 12 Patrol Craft and/or Missile Boats, 8 Mine Warfare Vessels, 8 Fleet Auxiliaries, 40 Naval Fighters and 84 Naval Helicopters. At a price of $73.52 billion USD, while a little more expense then our other package suggestion and including a few additional items not specifically requested by you, this package offers you the best value in our opinion by giving you additional capabilities like supply ships for building that Blue Water Navy your nation so desires.

Finally, by selecting one of the above packages, your free to select the vessels that most meet your exacting specifications that we offer for sale in each of their respective categories. Our full Naval Catalogue can be found at the following link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10515828&postcount=5), while a list of other packages we offer can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10518559&postcount=7). Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sincerely, Nicholas Stevens

Federation of Lingard
Department of Defense
Department of The Navy

The Lingard Navy will gladly accept the UEMS 'Small Navel Package 2'. Is it possible to set up a pay scheme for the purchase, or would we need to gether the funds first?

Signed
Jenny Mason, Secutary of Defense.

Federation of Lingard
Department of Defense
Department of The Navy

The Lingard Navy will accept the Governor class Cruisers from Comorostan, we request price please.
Other offers being considered on other items

Signed
Jenny Mason, Secutary of Defense.

The total cost of the ships is USD$13.2 billion, or 3.3 billion per cruiser. We are open to the possibility of a payment plan, if the funds are not immediately accessible.
OOC-That is the cost of the navy's Zumwalt-class cruiser, which the Governor-class is based off of

Federation of Lingard
Department of Defense
Department of The Navy

A Payment plan would be appreciated

Signed
Jenny Mason, Secutary of Defense.

That is wholly acceptable. We suggest payment for each cruiser as it is delivered, at intervals. Is that agreeable?

Federation of Lingard
Department of Defense
Department of The Navy

Of course, we look forward to their Arrival

Signed
Jenny Mason, Secutary of Defense.

OOC: Can you send specs/Pic

OOC-sure, hold on

Pic: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/supcom/images/5/5e/UEFCruiser.jpg

Specs:
Displacement: 14,564 tons
Length: 600 ft (182.9 m)
Beam: 80.7 ft (24.6 m)
Draft: 27.6 ft (8.4 m)
Propulsion: 2 Rolls-Royce Marine Trent-30 gas turbines and emergency diesel generators, 78 MW
Speed: 30.3 kn (56 km/h)
Complement: 140
Sensors and processing systems: AN/SPY-3 Multi-Function Radar (MFR) (X-band, scanned array)
Volume Search Radar (VSR) (S-band, scanned array)
Armament:
-20 × MK 57 VLS modules, comprising a total of 80 missiles
Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM)
-Tactical Tomahawk Vertical Launch Anti-Submarine Rocket (ASROC)
-2 × 155 mm Advanced Gun System
-2 × Mk 110 57 mm gun (CIWS)
Ammunition:
920 × 155 mm total; 600 in automated store + Auxiliary store room with up to 320 rounds (non-automatic) as of April 2005
70-100 LRLAP rounds planned as of 2005 of total

Aircraft carried: 2 SH-60 LAMPS helicopters or 1 MH-60R helicopter
3 MQ-8 Fire Scout VTUAV

To: Lingard department of defense
From: the presedential palace of Tubaui



The Republic of Tubaui is making an offer for the following:

RTNV Victory (centaur class) light fleet carrier for a minimum of $85 million Universal Standard Dollars(USD).

We can also offer up to 6 Type 23 (duke class) frigates, for a minimum price of $98 million Universal Standard Dollars(USD) each.

we will give greater information on each and every ship in question once the federation of Lingard shows interest in our offer.


signed:
vice-president clark, temporary head of state
general whitterman, acquirement and sales department
frank blauw, secretary of Foreign Affairs

Federation of Lingard
Department of Defense
Department of The Navy

we would Consider such purchase, futher info would be appreciated.

Signed
Jenny Mason, Secutary of Defense.

To: Lingard department of defense
From: the presedential palace of Tubaui

information on RTNV Victory:



RTNV victory is the first and oldest aircraft carrier of republic of tubaui, and the only indigenously produced aircraft carrier in tubaui.
Victory is a centaur class aircraft carrier, commissioned in April 1949, taking the entire tubaui’n navy budget three years to complete (January 1946-april 1949).
It served with distinction from 1949 through to 1957, during which time it acted as a force of power-projection to other naval powers.
In 1957, the 2nd tubaui’n civil war broke out and RTNV victory served as the flagship of the liberal navy, and, as of the end of the war in 1960, one of the three remaining liberal vessels still afloat.
After the reinstatement of the government in 1960, it was decided that RTNV victory needed a major refit to complement the new navy that was being built.
The refit was completed in 1964, due to the fact that the defence forces continued under a wartime budget until 1966, so as to build a fully equipped navy. The refit included installation of a massive Type 984 'searchlight' 3D radar.
In 1988, the ship was once again converted from a commando helicopter carrier to an V/STOL ski jump carrier. This recomissioning had allowed victory to be V/STOL jet capable, with the installation of a 12’ ski ramp that allows the BAE sea harrier to launch from it.


It was put up for sale in early 2009, as of the huge growth in the naval prowess of the Tubaui’n armed forces. No nations have expressed any interest in Victory so far, though the offer shows promise.




if the transaction follows through, the aircraft supplied with RTNV Victory will be the following:

18 BAE systems Harrier GR7 series V/STOL fighters
2 Sikorsky SH-3 Sea King ASW helicopters
3 Kamov Ka-27 naval helicopters
3 MH-60R Seahawk multi-role helicopters




Information on the Type-23 (duke class) frigates will soon follow.


signed:
vice-president clark, temporary head of state
general whitterman, acquirement and sales department
frank blauw, secretary of Foreign Affairs






OOC: Rushed i know, but i tried to get it done in ten minutes, which really didn't work. give me a bit for the frigates, then i'll see how the offer go's

Federation of Lingard
Department of Defense
Department of The Navy

Purchase of the Victory would be more than acceptbale

Signed
Jenny Mason, Secutary of Defense.

To the Federation of Lingard's Department of Defense,

We noticed you are still yet to take up our offer, and remind you a final time with eager awaital that we are still open to any negotiations which you wish to make on our offer if it remains unacceptable.

Thank you,
Kim Song-woo.

Federation of Lingard
Department of Defense
Department of The Navy

Are these Naval Varinets or Land based?

Signed
Jenny Mason, Secutary of Defense.

Have you considered Allanean Arms' (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=548877) line of aircraft carriers and cruisers?

Federation of Lingard
Department of Defense
Department of The Navy

The Lingard Navy will gladly accept the UEMS 'Small Navel Package 2'. Is it possible to set up a pay scheme for the purchase, or would we need to gether the funds first?

Signed
Jenny Mason, Secutary of Defense.

OCC: Sorry, about not getting a return reply up sooner, I forgot about this thread and only come across it again after I was thankfully looking through some of my old replies. If, you've moved on since the time of that post that's ok, I just thought it important to at least bring closure to your inquiry.

Payment plans are indeed available and can be as long as ten years, thirty if a loan is taken out through our company. We also like to take this time to apologize for our delay in getting back an response to you, it seems your message got lost in the chaotic system that is our company and sadly, we're still not sure how or where that happen to prevent such an instance from happening again in the future. However, you can rest assured that we are going to be more vigilant in how we here at UEMS monitor international requests and messages to lessen the chance of a repeat performance. If, you have any additional questions, let us know. We look forward from hearing from you and to any future business contracts with your government.

Sincerely, Nicholas Stevens

OCC2: If you do decide to place an order, I would prefer if the order was done through my storefront thread, instead of here.