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Fantasy/medieval RP (OOC discussion thread).

The Romulan Republic
14-03-2009, 12:00
Well I was looking back at some of my past RPs on this forum, and feeling nostalgic, and I decided that since I've got a little less school work to worry about right now, it might be nice to take a break from sniping at fools and trolls in General and get back into RPing.:)

I was specifically looking at some fantasy/medieval threads I was in, and decided to try something along those lines. I haven't settled on anything else yet, so this is mainly to see if anyone's interested or has some suggestions.

One idea I considered was to have a post-epic war world. That is, take the classic epic battle against a Dark Lord and set the RP not during the war but during its aftermath. The situation is that the good side just barely won, so everything is pretty much anarchy and chaos. I don't think I'm going to make this strictly a nation-building RP or a character RP either. If you want to play one guy, or if you want to play a continent-spanning empire, its fine either way.

Also, some limitations on magic:

1. No God-like beings. Having a character who can take on twenty ordinary soldiers is fine. Having one who can take on twenty thousand is not. Basically, I don't want magic on a level that it renders standing armies of normal men utterly useless.

2. No time travel. The reasons should be obvious.

3. No immortals. This goes hand in hand with God-like beings.;)

Also, regarding tech level, I'd like to limit this to medieval or pre-medieval tech. Thus, primitive guns and galleons would be fine, but ironclad steamships and volleys of musket or rifle fire would not.

Note: none of this is set in stone. If you think you have a really good idea that would violate one of the above, please telegram me. Also, this is just preliminary speculation. It may be adjusted, or totally reworked at this point. If anyone thinks they have better or more complete suggestions, I'd like to here them.
Christstan
14-03-2009, 14:28
Very interesting, I too seek such a thread. Perhaps I can use the below factbook for mine because the old Fantasy thread died.
The Romulan Republic
14-03-2009, 14:34
Yeah, its a pity that one died out. To be honest, I think its a bit of an inspiration for this thread. Of course, I can't complain, since I stopped posting too.;) I recall that I was having computer troubles, and got tired of trying to make the same post again and again.

Hmm, I might use some elements of my old factbook as well, but I can't just carbon copy it if I go with the setting I've just suggested. In that kind of post-apocalyptic environment, I wouldn't have so much of an established government.
Whiskeasy
14-03-2009, 14:37
Well I have been looking to kick an old idea of mine back into life. The original idea was at this website. http://eldris.proboards.com/index.cgi?

I was thinking of changing it and kicking back into life. Any thoughts?
The Romulan Republic
14-03-2009, 14:46
Hmm, interesting. Its good as far as it goes, but it lacks any great detail. However, I'd still kind of like to do a post-apocalyptic setting. I read the history you created for your idea, and I liked the bit about losing contact with the home land, and any ships being sent back disappearing. I basically want to explore what happens once the war is, at least nominally, over. And post-apocalyptic settings have such potential both for character development and empire building.

Or at least, that's the best idea I've got so far.;)
Christstan
14-03-2009, 14:49
I would have to make a few adjustments to my old factbook also but the post apocalyptic thing is new. I could rp some infighting in my empire.
Whiskeasy
14-03-2009, 14:54
As I said, I just like the idea of it. I want to expand it cut some bits out etcetera. Definitely make a new plot, expand to it and add more detail etc.

I really put it up in a bit of a rush so a few changes would need to be in order. As for post-apocalyptic are you thinking fantasy post-apoc? Because I have played a few normal post-apoc RPs. But the thing I liked about Eldris is I could make whatever I liked and the rules were so fluid.
The Romulan Republic
14-03-2009, 14:57
Made some adjustments to the OP regarding limits to the tech level.
The Romulan Republic
14-03-2009, 15:03
As I said, I just like the idea of it. I want to expand it cut some bits out etcetera. Definitely make a new plot, expand to it and add more detail etc.

I really put it up in a bit of a rush so a few changes would need to be in order. As for post-apocalyptic are you thinking fantasy post-apoc? Because I have played a few normal post-apoc RPs. But the thing I liked about Eldris is I could make whatever I liked and the rules were so fluid.

Oh yes. Its good in the sense that you gave enough detail to interest people and create a sense of the setting, while still leaving the player a lot of freedom (something I always like in an RP). Another plus with using your's is that you have a map, and I have no great skill as a map-maker, nor the patience to make a good one, nor even the knowledge of how to make one for an on-line RP (my knowledge of computers extends to little beyond typing, some gaming, and internet surfing).

Regarding the post-apocalyptic setting, basically an evil dark wizard tried to take over the world. The forces of good managed to defeat him, but barely, leaving the whole world in chaos.
Aresion
14-03-2009, 15:13
I might join in, as one of my other nations. Would an extremely magical nation relying on grafts and transmutation be fine?
The Romulan Republic
14-03-2009, 15:21
I might join in, as one of my other nations. Would an extremely magical nation relying on grafts and transmutation be fine?

Depends on the extend. I don't care if every man woman and child is a mage, and everything inside your boarders is built with magic, as long as a non-magic nation built within the tech limits I outlined in the OP would have a plausible chance against you. Similarily, individual characters should not generally be able to fight more than a company or so of normal troops without going down, and even those should be rare.

Its just a question of balancing, and none of its hard and fast. Just use your best judgement. I'm not sure how much more I can tell you until you post more details of what you have in mind.
Aresion
14-03-2009, 15:44
The armies would mostly consist of weak aberrant, mutated creatures, and the humans don't do too much of the fighting. If I keep the creatures pretty weak is it fine?
The Romulan Republic
14-03-2009, 15:49
The armies would mostly consist of weak aberrant, mutated creatures, and the humans don't do too much of the fighting. If I keep the creatures pretty weak is it fine?

Its fine if the individual creatures are powerful too. Just make sure their aren't too many really powerful ones or that they have some weaknesses. All that's important is that those of us who may choose to go with non-magic armies still have a chance.
Aresion
14-03-2009, 15:53
Alright then, I'll make sure of that.
The Romulan Republic
14-03-2009, 15:57
Well I try to grab a few hour's sleep right now. I'll post again tonight, and try to have something more detailed worked out. Look for an official sign up thread around then, and hopefully an IC thread by Monday.
The Romulan Republic
14-03-2009, 22:49
Whiskeasy, you still want to try a reworking of your last idea? Because if so, I can hold off for a while on posting an IC thread.

I will, however, be posting a sign-up thread on schedual, just to keep things going.
The Beatus
14-03-2009, 23:01
This sounds interesting, the last fantasy RP I was in died, before much happened, and I am very interested in further developing my ideas.
Oblivion2
15-03-2009, 00:44
I miss Eldire, I still have the old map and everything! If you made one like that you could count on me being in it!
The Romulan Republic
15-03-2009, 11:57
Yes, Eldire was a cool idea, and its a shame to see it sit around collecting dust so to speak, but I want to avoid ripping off someone else's RP.

Anyhow, sorry I haven't got a sign up sheet up yet. I decided to wait for Whiskeasy's reply. If, however, one is not forthcoming in the next few days, then I'll just go ahead with my own ideas and he can develope his at his own pace, no offense intended.
Veneficus Regnum
15-03-2009, 12:54
It sounds interesting, I wouldn't mind dropping in a single character for role-playing, although I haven't decided just what type of character. All I have decided upon for the moment is that he'd either be a merc that thought in the war, or a being disguising himself as a merc to study the after effects of the war.
Xult
15-03-2009, 16:14
I really like the idea and, if you don't of other plans for the character, I would like to develop the Dark Lord. I'll wait for you to finish working out any details about the main idea of the thread, but I'd be happy to be that single character. I've got experience being on the "evil" side of things (if you know my nation) and my writing skills are fairly developed so I highly doubt anyone would object.
Hierphil
15-03-2009, 16:18
Interesting idea, I must say. I am interested in being involved as a single character as well but he wouldn't take a forthcoming spot- something behind the scenes. A Dominican friar that can be used as a point of guidance or reference for the thread's main [good] characters. Like I said, he wouldn't be much of a fighter, but more of a mentor. Your thoughts?
Xult
15-03-2009, 23:35
OOC: bump
Torturous Chamber
15-03-2009, 23:51
I'll come in with a regiment of cavalry. I will have a magician similar to the Dragon Riders in the Eragon, Eldest, etc. series. He is Mechan.
Comorostan
16-03-2009, 00:11
I'd like to join. I'd be using tech from the book Marching on Peachtree, which is to say crossbows, swords, unicorn cavalry, flying carpet transportation, wizards.
Whiskeasy
16-03-2009, 00:22
Bleugh, sorry about not posting lads. Busy weekend and that, what do you want added, changed or redrafted to eldris?
Xult
16-03-2009, 00:35
So should we start outlining our characters now or should we wait for the IC post?
Torturous Chamber
16-03-2009, 00:43
Here is my total of troops:

400 Light Scout Cavalry(no armor), armed with spears, swords, and bows.
1000 Medium Cavalry(light armor), armed with spears, swords, and bows.
200 Skirmish Horse Archers(no armor), armed with crossbows and swords.
500 Unicorn Cataphracts(heavy armor), armed with large spears, broadswords, and crossbows.
200 Horse Archers(no armor), armed with bows and javelins.
Mechan, powerful Dragon Mage, armed with sword and powerful magic.
Colonel McDonald, mounted on Unicorn, equipped like a Medium Cavalryman.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 01:25
I really like the idea and, if you don't of other plans for the character, I would like to develop the Dark Lord. I'll wait for you to finish working out any details about the main idea of the thread, but I'd be happy to be that single character. I've got experience being on the "evil" side of things (if you know my nation) and my writing skills are fairly developed so I highly doubt anyone would object.

I don't know. I was planning to have the evil wizard being defeated already at the start of the thread, with the RP dealing with the after-effects of the war. However, I suppose he could be plotting a comeback.:)

Why don't you telegram me to tell me what you have in mind, and I'll let you know weather it'll fit with the idea I have in mind.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 01:30
Interesting idea, I must say. I am interested in being involved as a single character as well but he wouldn't take a forthcoming spot- something behind the scenes. A Dominican friar that can be used as a point of guidance or reference for the thread's main [good] characters. Like I said, he wouldn't be much of a fighter, but more of a mentor. Your thoughts?

Whatever you like, as long as it follows the rules in the OP regarding power and tech levels.
Takaram
16-03-2009, 01:33
Ah, why not. I guess I'll get involved. Sounds like this could be interesting. I'll start character creation later.
German zerabithea
16-03-2009, 01:38
this sounds fun
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 01:40
Bleugh, sorry about not posting lads. Busy weekend and that, what do you want added, changed or redrafted to eldris?

Nothing much. The idea is good, but vague enough that you can set a lot of different stories in it. The problems however are two-fold. The first is that the original backstory you outlined doesn't fit too well with the post-apocalyptic setting that I have in mind. The second is that I don't want to rush you in developing yours, but I don't want to delay this when I've already said I'll try to have the IC thread up soon. Nothing kills an RP like inaction, as I know well.

Maybe we could do your idea and mine as two sepperate but connected RPs? The most developed part of yours seems to be the backstory, which I really like, but which fits somewhat awkwardly with my idea. Or we could drop mine altogether. I just threw it out their because I didn't have anything better. I'm just reluctant to do that now because it looks like some people have already developed a character or faction based around the post-apocalyptic concept.
Comorostan
16-03-2009, 01:49
I'd like to join. I'd be using tech from the book Marching on Peachtree, which is to say crossbows, swords, unicorn cavalry, flying carpet transportation, wizards.

If this is aftermath, then I'd RP as a group of marauders, taking advantage of the chaos to loot, and maybe carve out a little territory for themselves. The leader would be my character, based off of V (from the movie/graphic novel V for Vendetta. If you haven't seen it/read it, do so immediately, one of the greatest graphic novels/movies EVER).
Hierphil
16-03-2009, 01:49
Yeah, definately. The Friar would be more of a wiseman or mentor as opposed to all-powerful magician
Toopoxia
16-03-2009, 01:51
Regarding race, I had the idea of a flying race (Wings, Beaks, Talons with human arms.) But I don't know what limitations you've set for species.
Hierphil
16-03-2009, 01:51
Romulan Republic, are you going to make a separate thread to introduce each character and the overall setting so that we can develop relationships between each entity or should we do that on this thread?
Torturous Chamber
16-03-2009, 01:56
My regiment could be trying to keep order in the area.
Xult
16-03-2009, 02:01
I TGd you with some interesting ideas.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 02:06
Regarding race, I had the idea of a flying race (Wings, Beaks, Talons with human arms.) But I don't know what limitations you've set for species.

Again, and I apologise for any inconvieniance, I am still working out exactly what this RP will be about, so some things are a little unclear (why I haven't put up a sign up or IC thread yet). However, I have as yet put no limitations on species beyond the basic ones in the OP.
Soviet Steam
16-03-2009, 02:17
Unless you are used to combining character interaction, adventure, war and diplomacy in a single roleplay, I'd recommend focusing on the former, and going in a classical tabletop roleplaying approach where small groups of player characters journey through the world. RPing wars without the solidity of a more realistic Tech might become tricky, and war-focused Fantasy threads based on races rather than characters tend to die quickly.
Xult
16-03-2009, 02:22
I respectfully disagree with your opinion on the thread in general though i certainly can see what you mean about the characters dying quickly
Veneficus Regnum
16-03-2009, 02:24
Ya know, I just came up with a nation that stayed out of the whole war, and because of that is in a better shape that everyone else with higher tech (read: steam punk Renascence). Still, think I'll stick to my original idea of a shapeshifter/illusionist mercenary.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 02:27
Unless you are used to combining character interaction, adventure, war and diplomacy in a single roleplay,

How does one get good at it if they don't try it sometime?:) However, in my case, I have found myself able to integrate both fairly well.

I'd recommend focusing on the former, and going in a classical tabletop roleplaying approach where small groups of player characters journey through the world. RPing wars without the solidity of a more realistic Tech might become tricky, and war-focused Fantasy threads based on races rather than characters tend to die quickly.

I'll bear that in mind, and try to establish some solid limits on tech and magic. I may also limit faction size. However, I've personally always preferred RPs without too many rules, and have found those to be better over all.

Ultimately, threads die when people no longer give a damn about them. That could happen for many reasons, constant interference with good ideas being one of them.
Comorostan
16-03-2009, 02:29
So is this definitely aftermath? Also, just wondering if my faction/character idea is OK.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 02:32
So is this definitely aftermath? Also, just wondering if my faction/character idea is OK.

At first it was just a suggestion, but since several people seem to have ideas based around that concept now, yes it is definite.

And as far as I can see, your idea is fine. I'll be putting up a sign up thread later tonight, and you can post more details their if you wish.
Comorostan
16-03-2009, 02:36
OK, cool
Oblivion2
16-03-2009, 02:48
If I were to be in this could I have a company of say 30 warrior-mages? We'd be like the commandos of the fantasy world, we would also function as mercenaries, just to be interesting...

Or if we are doing character RP i'll just have a standard Knight.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 02:52
If I were to be in this could I have a company of say 30 warrior-mages? We'd be like the commandos of the fantasy world, we would also function as mercenaries, just to be interesting...

Or if we are doing character RP i'll just have a standard Knight.

30 warrior-mages is fine, as long as the warrior mages are not too powerful (then again I allowed Eragon magic, which is pretty damn powerful:)).
Oblivion2
16-03-2009, 02:54
Well it wouldn't be like "MEGA UBER FIREBALL METERORS OF DDDDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM"

More like, "Fire balls the size of large rocks, with 10 foot explosions of doom"

Besides I'm good at moderation, I know when to quit being too awesome :p
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 03:00
That's fine. That sounds comparable to primitive canon, which is good. I want it not to be too overpowered though, and I want it so that if someone chooses to play a non-magic army, they still have a good chance.
Comorostan
16-03-2009, 03:01
Just getting this posted before I forget:
The Legion of the Fallen is a band of marauders, who are carving out their own private kingdom in the chaotic aftermath of the war against the Dark Lord. They are led by Nirek, an almost psychotic man who is never seen without a mask, which is the face of one of the demons of legend. He has incredibly fast reflexes and delivers death with a set of six daggers, which can be thrown or wielded by hand. His army is made up of an elite corps of unicorn riders, riding armored unicorns and wielding quick-firing crossbows, lances, and swords. The bulk are peasant conscripts, armed with crossbows, pikes, and swords. They operate in medium sized groups, looting, killing, and burning any village or town they find. Nerik rules his kingdom from a heavily defended fortress on Mount Karnak, but can often be found leading his marauders from the front lines. His subordinate commanders are awarded fiefs within the kingdom, their size is based on the amount of loot they acquire and the conscripts they enslave into their forces.
Xult
16-03-2009, 03:13
Have you read my TG?
Oblivion2
16-03-2009, 03:19
That's fine. That sounds comparable to primitive canon, which is good. I want it not to be too overpowered though, and I want it so that if someone chooses to play a non-magic army, they still have a good chance.

Sweet, well I generally RP with Elder Scrolls magic, with a few variations. So They'll be very versatile, and generally well suited to combat with magic, but not overly powerful. I'll be posting a Bio soon.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 03:27
Have you read my TG?

yes. check your telegrams.
Xult
16-03-2009, 03:29
Right, i replied
Oblivion2
16-03-2009, 06:13
Alrighty, heres a quick little Bio:

Company Name: Laurent's Linebreakers
Leader: Sir Aldus Laurent
Strength: 30 Soldiers
Specialty: Commando Strikes
Armor:
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/gallery_photos/princecaspian_mirazarmor_gal.jpg
That Minus the face mask and helmet.

Extras: Every Member of the Linebreakers is skilled in some form of magic, and the useage of crossbows, as well as Melee weapons of their choice.

Bio:
Laurent's Linebreakers are the Remnants of an elite fighting order from a kingdom destroyed in the great war. Sir Aldus Laurent was the king of Oblivion's adopted son, and when his adoptive father's kingdom fell, Aldus took with him 10 of his fathers greatest knights on a quest to earn funds to re-build his father's kingdom. Since then he has run into other knights who were part of the Kingdom of Oblivion before the great war, or are just looking for there own fame and glory. They currently act as a mercenary company for the highest bidder.
The Beatus
16-03-2009, 07:41
Well, I was planing on doing this on the national level, with characters sprinkled here and there.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 07:44
Well, I was planing on doing this on the national level, with characters sprinkled here and there.

That's fine. I'm working on a proper sign up thread now.

Expect the IC thread hopefully by this time tomorrow.
Whiskeasy
16-03-2009, 09:04
I would like to point out that you are going to need to put down definite rules soon, I diddn't with one of my post-apoc RPs and it all went to shite. Other than that I can tell you right now I don't have the time to RP but if you want I can make and moderate a board for you.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 09:10
I would like to point out that you are going to need to put down definite rules soon, I diddn't with one of my post-apoc RPs and it all went to shite.

I'm going to in the sign up thread, which I'm working on and will have up as soon as possible.

Other than that I can tell you right now I don't have the time to RP but if you want I can make and moderate a board for you.

Thanks, but I was just going to do this here on Nationstates. Unless their's some reason why we can't?
Whiskeasy
16-03-2009, 14:08
No reason, just offering. It's generally easier when it's done on another board as well.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 15:21
Well, thanks anyways. I'm sorry you're short on time. But I don't want to rush you, and I can't really wait to start this now. So I'm just going ahead now and putting up the sign up thread. IC thread should be up in twenty four hours. Hope you'll have time to join, and I hope you'll finish your idea sometime as well. We can always use more good RPs.:)
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 15:48
Link to the sign up thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=586903.
Whiskeasy
16-03-2009, 17:08
Well, if you need a hand with any map making I can make one. Much better than the one I made for Eldris as well, that was a shockingly bad map.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 17:10
Well, if you need a hand with any map making I can make one. Much better than the one I made for Eldris as well, that was a shockingly bad map.

If its not too much trouble, yes please. I certainly won't be able to make a half-decent one. I tried to describe the setting geographically in as much detail as possible, but its not as good as a proper map.
Whiskeasy
16-03-2009, 17:14
Sure I will have a go at it right now. I kinda want a break from replying to stuff anyway.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 17:16
Ok, thanks.
Whiskeasy
16-03-2009, 18:55
I have been having some problems with uploading the map to imageshack and photobucket so I will upload it here. If you have any problems just say.
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 23:33
The link works fine for me. More or less what I was looking for, thank you. Might have made the western forest a bit larger, but it doesn't matter. Really like where you put the rivers.

Now that we have the map, I will be putting up the IC thread shortly.
Comorostan
16-03-2009, 23:34
That's the map we're using, correct?
The Romulan Republic
16-03-2009, 23:42
That's the map we're using, correct?

It is indeed.

Oh, and not that it matters since the place has been destroyed, but the old fortress of the dark wizard where he got his ass kicked was in the foothills on the eastern side of the mountains, near the southern tip. Just north of the eastern river. Just in case anyone's curious.
The Beatus
17-03-2009, 04:13
Would there be swamps anywhere?
Veneficus Regnum
17-03-2009, 04:17
Is it just me, or is the map's west-east axis backwards?
The Romulan Republic
17-03-2009, 16:42
Would there be swamps anywhere?

Hmm, haven't thought about that much. Probably along parts of some of the rivers and coasts. Really, though, remember that this map is on a very large scale (the continent is established as 1000 miles north to south and twice that east to west). Not every detail will be included. Their could be swamps practically anywhere on it, except the ocean or the far north.
Xult
19-03-2009, 22:29
Is it just me, or is the map's west-east axis backwards Thats been bothering me...
The Beatus
19-03-2009, 23:02
It is clearly obvious, that the person who named the forest, and plains, confused their east from their west, people back in medieval times didn't know their directions very well you know. That or, some one could have used a mirror to copy it, making a reflection of the way things really are. Things like this happen in history all the time.