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East - West Glacine War [MT/OOC/Sign-Up]

East Glacia
12-03-2009, 06:05
Oi, adding this.

If anyone wants back round for the story, just ask. I'm going to be on an question-to-answer basis when it comes to my nation's history, but after a few questions my nation's history will be layed out. I have the general specifics of it in my head, but I made this RP before history. So when you think about it, you'd be helping/affecting my nation's history :), so feel free to ask. But please don't ask the same question, I get annoyed easily.

Also, ask to join, give me what you want to do (i.e. invasion, special forces, etc...) and it will be given a thumbs up or down.

Also...

IC THREAD (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=586529)
Etoile Arcture
12-03-2009, 11:01
Outstanding opening post and kudos to you sir.

Before I can decide how I can get involved (if accepted), it would be helpful if you can give a basic rundown on the various sides in the conflict i.e. the Independent Territory of North Glacia, United States of West Glacia and the Principality of East Glacia. The kind of information I would like to know would be the basic political systems of each territory (to find if one is compatible with my nation's political leanings), as well as a basic overview of their economic and military capabilities. Also, it would also be helpful to know Glacine's geographic location (such as whether or not it is close to any realworld locations).

Secondly, as your nation's history is still a work in progress, I might suggest (and I hope not too presumptuously) to place one of my puppets (well, I only have one these days LOL) as a neighbour to yours, which would help me immensely to flesh out it's history too. My intention was to have a central asian country that straddles the european and asian continents so if Glacia is a "balkan" country or in that general area, this might work out well if that's acceptable to you? My puppet is also around the same age as East Glacia so couldn't militarily overwhelm you.
Central Eastern Africa
12-03-2009, 11:35
Hey sweet opening post.
i am eager to join. your nation is about the same age as my nation, yours is like three days younger. so i am keen to join in if you are willing. i am happy to join either side. watever fits. i guess i could be a neighbour maybe to northern Glacine, and i could side with you with the goal of additional teritory as a motivating factor say a seaport or something. you know capitalize on Glacine weakness.
East Glacia
12-03-2009, 20:14
Outstanding opening post and kudos to you sir.

Before I can decide how I can get involved (if accepted), it would be helpful if you can give a basic rundown on the various sides in the conflict i.e. the Independent Territory of North Glacia, United States of West Glacia and the Principality of East Glacia. The kind of information I would like to know would be the basic political systems of each territory (to find if one is compatible with my nation's political leanings), as well as a basic overview of their economic and military capabilities. Also, it would also be helpful to know Glacine's geographic location (such as whether or not it is close to any realworld locations).

Secondly, as your nation's history is still a work in progress, I might suggest (and I hope not too presumptuously) to place one of my puppets (well, I only have one these days LOL) as a neighbour to yours, which would help me immensely to flesh out it's history too. My intention was to have a central asian country that straddles the european and asian continents so if Glacia is a "balkan" country or in that general area, this might work out well if that's acceptable to you? My puppet is also around the same age as East Glacia so couldn't militarily overwhelm you.

Have to look into you about the following: activity, consistency and RP capability. But I'll answer your questions now, because I did ask people to ask me questions. :) [Remind me if I skipped any]

Before the break-up there was one nation that controlled all of the Glacias. The Monarchy of Glacia (now officially the old Monarchy) which had its roots in Serbian-like environment, very close to it in fact, might as well pretty much base it on that. The Principality of East Glacia believes in the following, free drug use, taxed by the government, compulsory military service [however this is more for civil obedience], the right of blood in the Principality [The current prince, Prince Roman deClark III, believes his grand-father is still alive, exactly like his father before him did, and retains the title of Prince until his return.] as the executive branch. The Legislative Branch is the Representative House of the People, the Judicial Branch is lead by Glacia's Rightful Court. They have an incredibly lax Socialist economic system, it could be characterized as Nationalist Socialism, but again with more capitalist undertones. It was the faction that was originally led by King Roman deClark I, but he died during the civil strife. It was named East Glacia, despite is geographically location to the west because it claims West Glacia, which is in the East, therefore taking the name as a foreshadowing of its dominance over West Glacia. Its Economy is fair, but developing rapidly, environmentalism isn't sought after, however they invest heavily in alternative fuels, not wanting to dependent on any nation which could be blockaded by West Glacia. The East Glacine Navy is made up of several cruisers, destroyers, frigates, missile boats and transport carriers. The Army employ over fifty thousand men, with good training and good equipment. It has no paramilitary force that is not directly connect to the government. Guns are not a constitutional right, and yes there is constitution based heavily on the United States', with several additions and removals. Air Force is also limited, but the helicopter fleet is moderate. It recognizes North Glacia as an independent territory.

The United States of West Glacia was the original proponent of the civil war led by then declared President Charles Denin. It had initial support with the adoption of the American constitution and had the largest military during the war, at around three hundred thousand combat personnel. It is a Capitalist nation exactly like the United States, however its economy is not as high and its technology is not as advanced, it is slightly below East Glacia. Post-war military of the West was maintained at around seventy-five thousand personnel [including reserves], with an additional ten thousand paramilitary groups. The standing army is equipped with mostly stockpile United States weapons, while the paramilitary have an assortment of cheaper Russian-made guns. The executive branch is held by the President, who is currently Matthew Jackson. The Legislative Branch is the House of Commons and the House of Opulence, the Judicial Branch is lead by the Supreme Court of Glacia. It does not recognize North Glacia as an independent territory and claims it as a province of West Glacia, however due to its constant fighting with the East it has no forces to spare for the use of occupation against the North. Its name is basically the vice-versa of East Glacia.

The Independent Territory of North Glacia maintained peace threw out the entire conflict, only having a standing army during of about twenty-six thousand which was used moderately to repel invasions by both West and East Glacia. The leaders during the civil war, and also the current, is Chancellor Drake Benedict, Chancellor Carl Bernard, Chancellor Kreig Krebs, Chancellor Maxis Pilum, Chancellor Lex Smith, Chancellor Moses Hanson. The only reason for their break away during the civil war was to keep from their citizens from being drafted and their nation being divided into a bloody new theatre of combat. It proved to be the most advantageous approach for all involved. It is modeled after a more efficient form of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It is the single state of the three that is completely self sustained. Its humanitarian rating is the highest among all the nations and it technological innovations in the civilian market are also massive. The single state-controlled company entity is the North Glacine Modeling and Construction Agency (N-MoCo-A) [En moco a], which produces all the nations vehicles, miscellaneous devices, mines the rich oil fields in the center of the nation, mines the iron in the south western provinces and exports all surplus goods. There is only two branches, the People's Government and the Elected Six, which consists of six elected men who all jointly control the nation, all of which can be impeached at any moment and serve their entire lives until retired or impeached. Its military is made of fifteen thousand men. The air force consists of six F-22 air superiority fighters and a small helicopter fleet. Its Navy is made up of missile boats and mine laying boats. Money may be phased out soon for this country.

Also, you may RP as a nation bordering WEST Glacia. But for this the requirement is that you made an addition to the map your own. The Glacine is suppose to be an island chain, so at some point if more nations want to be bordering any nation they will be rejected. However at this time it is not a problem. Will get back to you on whether you're accepted or not soon. I'll Telegram you the answer.

Got more questions, please ask. :)

Hey sweet opening post.
i am eager to join. your nation is about the same age as my nation, yours is like three days younger. so i am keen to join in if you are willing. i am happy to join either side. watever fits. i guess i could be a neighbour maybe to northern Glacine, and i could side with you with the goal of additional teritory as a motivating factor say a seaport or something. you know capitalize on Glacine weakness.

No.
Salzland
12-03-2009, 20:28
Nice, well thought-out opening IC post and histories. If you're still looking for participants after a few days, when my spring break ends and I have more regular internet access, I'd be interested in providing material support (food, fuel, munitions, medical supplies, etcetera) and perhaps a few advisors to West Glacia. No more than a hundred or two, in order to keep the number spamming under control.
East Glacia
12-03-2009, 20:36
Food, Fuel, Medical Supplies doesn't need my approval. The advisers do, however, and I'm going to be looking at the criteria the same as I stated for Etoile A.
Salzland
12-03-2009, 20:42
Your thread, your rules. That's no problem as far as I'm concerned
East Glacia
12-03-2009, 21:39
All requested participants please check your TGs, except those I've already answered.
Rifugio e Sicuro
12-03-2009, 23:02
I would be interested in participating with my alliance, AMNAT, standing on the background ready to come in and impose our form of peace. If they agree, though, I'm personally going on a whim here.
Soviet Aissur
12-03-2009, 23:35
[OOC:That was an outstanding post, way better then the usual March nations that we have around here. I can honestly say you Role Play on a whole other level compared to me, you have earned my respect, sir. If I hadn't lost all my ambition to Role Play, I Would defiantly join. Good luck on II.]
East Glacia
12-03-2009, 23:38
[OOC:That was an outstanding post, way better then the usual March nations that we have around here. I can honestly say you Role Play on a whole other level compared to me, you have earned my respect, sir. If I hadn't lost all my ambition to Role Play, I Would defiantly join. Good luck on II.]

Thank you. :)
Santheres
13-03-2009, 02:49
Man, that opening post was enough that I really wish I could toss my hat in, but I can't -- I have too little activity and consistency, even if I might have the capability. I wouldn't want to drag down the thread by not posting, anyway.

Really neat post, though.

Edit: At some point, perhaps, I might offer humanitarian aid, but we'll see.
Anemos Major
13-03-2009, 15:30
I think I've been sitting on my backside for too long. I joined NS to RP and by God I will RP, especially there's something this amazing to join.

I can't access my TG, so could you please either respond to this post or send an email to:

'ccbacara@hotmail.com'

All right, so what appears to be happening here is a war between a pretty lenient monarchy and an extremist nation, with a small country up North who doesn't want to have a part in the war.

I'm quite obviously not going to commence an all out invasion of the East with my entire armed forces, because that would be

a) unnecesarry.
b) painful
c) annoying
d) impossible.

Therefore, can I send the 1st Arkuran Ranger Platoon (out of 4), 2nd Army Rangers 4th Platoon and (possibly) the 10th Army (Marine) 3rd QRF Taskforce to ensure the independence of North Glacia?
East Glacia
13-03-2009, 21:06
North Glacia would require somethings from you to do that. As mentioned to everyone else who asked to join and was considered. Each fucking post (Really, really, really don't EVER fucking post a short fucking thing in my thread. 1. If I put work into it replying to you, I expect the SAME exact fucking treatment. 2. A long post responded to by a post short post will lead to a shorter than original post. Basically it degrades RPs, QUICKLY. At least on NS, hence a trend I will do everything to avoid.) must be at least 1 & 1/2 Pages long on microsoft word in size 10 font using Times New Roman.

You've been accepted, but on a very strict standard. If you choose to accept the earlier stated prerequisites then you also have one more. You must send your final draft to my e-mail account before you can post it up. At least for the first 2-3 posts. After that I should be able to trust you. However, no promises. The account I send the e-mail to will be the one which you send the final draft to, if you choose to accept, obviously.

Also, need to know the exact number of troops your sending. Up to 60,000~, but preferably much lower.

EDIT: Note, to everyone.
I don't care if it takes a day to a week, TAKE YOUR MOTHER FUCKING TIME, BECAUSE TRUST ME, I WILL. Quality over quantity always.

EDIT 2:
Do not give out my e-mail. To ANYONE.
Anemos Major
14-03-2009, 13:40
Definitely not 60,000 troops. About 4,000 combat personnel at most. It's the presence that counts, not the number.
East Glacia
14-03-2009, 18:28
Replied to your e-mail.
East Glacia
15-03-2009, 04:56
Link fixed. Before it was just sending you off to make a new thread. Wierd...