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A Holy War(OOC interest thread, MT)

Osea 767
08-03-2009, 19:52
This is something I thought about doing for a while. I'm sure that anyone reading this has an idea what this is going to be about. Basically, there will be two sides, one that will be christian nations and one that will be islamic and arab nations. I will be on the christian side while the islamic side will include a puppet nation I will create for the RP.

The IC reason for the war will be that a nation that I will create for the RP has recently attacked my nation and has taken a lot of territory while inflicting heavy casualies and my nation has decided to turn to other christian nations for help to regain their territory.

The reasons being offered by my nation for anyone to be on the christian side are either protecting christians, recapturing the holy land(I'm basing the borders of both the nations I will be controlling on RL countries and Palestine is a part of the nation I'm creating for the islamic side) or gaining territory from the nation.

The motivation for anyone who wants to be on the islamic side will be either protecting a fellow islamic/arab nation from agggression, defending holy sites and the possible rewards that my puppet can offer, such as access to their vast natural resources.

So, after that long winded description, is anyone interested?

I am no longer accepting new players for either sides.
Christian Side

Osea, as Holy Empire of Osea
Torturous Chamber, as part of the Teutonic Order
Wolf Hold, as a nation of breakaway militant christians
Cukarica, as a militant Christian Order
Stevid, as Knights Templar
Chernobl
Void Templar
New Chalcedon

Islamic/Arab Side

Osea, as an islamic puppet(Ottoman Empire)
United Gordonopia, as an islamic puppet
Jakra, as the Holy Freeedom Fighters of Light
Siloin, as a radical Islamist state
Torturous Chamber
08-03-2009, 19:54
Yes. I will join as a force iof french christians.
The Wolf Hold
08-03-2009, 19:56
Ill join as a nation of breakaway militant christians, or If thats not alright. The Wolf Hold Could always support you due to the membership of the CIS.
Parilisa
08-03-2009, 20:35
I wouldnt get invovled for any religous reason (I'm neither Christian or Muslim in RL and nor is my nation) but I would defend an invaded nation from either Christian or Muslim extremists if the need was there.
Osea 767
08-03-2009, 20:50
Ok guys, you're all accepted.
The Wolf Hold
08-03-2009, 20:51
Which one the millitant christians or Wolf Hold?
Osea 767
08-03-2009, 20:55
The militiant christians.
Ventares
08-03-2009, 21:22
this sounds interesting. I would like to be involved.
Cukarica
08-03-2009, 22:44
If i could join as a militant Christian Order(Templars etc..) it would be very cool.
Osea 767
08-03-2009, 23:38
Cukaria, we presently only have one person on the islamic/arab. However, you will be accepted if the number of people on the islamic/arab increases.
Stevid
08-03-2009, 23:38
If i could join as a militant Christian Order(Templars etc..) it would be very cool.

If that is the case then my branch of the Order would be willing to assist.

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/the_knights_templar.html
Osea 767
08-03-2009, 23:42
Stevid, like with Cukaria, I'm going to have to wait untill some more people ask to join the islamic/arab side before accepting you.
Torturous Chamber
08-03-2009, 23:58
I could be something like the late Byzantine Empire maybe...
Osea 767
09-03-2009, 00:48
Interesting. My own nation is heavily based on the Byzantine Empire. Just incase anyone is wondering, that includes it following the Orthodox Church.
United Gordonopia
09-03-2009, 01:01
I could make an islamic puppet. Maybe it's an islamic militant organization with maybe 100,000 fighters that also hires maybe 50000 of my Kjeldoran mercenaries.
Chernobl
09-03-2009, 01:02
I'll join and fight for the christians.
Cukarica
09-03-2009, 09:24
Cukaria, we presently only have one person on the islamic/arab. However, you will be accepted if the number of people on the islamic/arab increases.

Ok,thanks,also i dont have much experience on RP Arabic/Islamic coutries/groups so ill try to squeze in with Christians :D....
Osea 767
09-03-2009, 13:01
Gordonopia and Chernobl, you're accepted if the number of people on the islamic/arab increases.
Jakra
09-03-2009, 13:39
I'll join the islamic/arab side. I share a Islamic terrorist organization with Comorostan, consider the Holy Freeedom Fighters of Light assisting their brother arabs/islamics.
Siloin
09-03-2009, 14:15
I will be a radical Islamist state.
Osea 767
09-03-2009, 14:32
Excellent. Both Jakra and Siloin are accepted.
Ustio North
09-03-2009, 14:59
Sounds interesting, and I would have liked to be a part - i've always been a bit of a boffin on Templars, Crusades etc - however, I cannot be part of this as Religion is highly regulated in Ustio by the Political Enforcement Agency, and so if I was to enter this then realistically i'd have to declare war on all nations with religion. But the PEA isn't that powerful, and won't really care.
Void Templar
09-03-2009, 18:02
I'd like to join in on the Christian side, if thats acceptable. VT is part of CIS, plus Ordo Faek Sythdol likes to show how death-happy fanatical their Crimson Templars are.
Osea 767
09-03-2009, 22:57
Ok Void, you're accepted.
United Gordonopia
09-03-2009, 23:51
Gordonopia and Chernobl, you're accepted if the number of people on the islamic/arab increases.

umm, I said I was going to be on the islamic side when I began (I think I was the first to do so). I said I would be an islamic militant organization that hires additional mercenaries.
Valladares
10-03-2009, 00:05
This sounds interesting. I would like to join in the Christian side with my Christian Troop.

P.D: We're a catholic nation.
United Gordonopia
10-03-2009, 00:12
cmon, respond. I was the first to say I'd help the arabs.
Osea 767
10-03-2009, 00:29
Opps, sorry Gordonopia. You are accepted and I've edited my first post to include a list of which nation is on which side. No offence Valladares, but I think I'm going to stop accepting players for the Christian side for now, as it is presently larger than the Islamic/Arab side and I'd prefer that the sides are roughly equal in size if possible, so that this doesn't turn into a dogpile on the Islamic/Arab side.
Torturous Chamber
10-03-2009, 00:33
Actually, can you edit it to put me as part of the Teutonic Order?

Look it up if you wanna see what it is.
Osea 767
10-03-2009, 00:42
Yes, I know what it is. The post has beem edited.
United Gordonopia
10-03-2009, 00:44
I'm gonna make that puppet now. Once I make it, I'll tell you the name. All I know so far is that it will have 100,000 militants, and 50,000 mercenaries. And that it's islamic.
United Gordonopia
10-03-2009, 01:06
ok, I made it. Here's the basic military related stats.

Name: The Party of Allah
Leader: Col. Muhammad Rasshid
Number of Militants: 100,000 Islamic militants, 50,000 Kjeldoran mercenaries
Common Weapons: ACR-1 assault rifles, LR-50 Sniper rifles, AK-47 Assault Rifles, IEDs
Common Vehicles: 30 LCT-1 Light Tanks, Jeeps, 5 CF-1 Fighters, 2 Tomahawk Class Patrol Boats
New Chalcedon
10-03-2009, 01:23
May I join as a Christian state? My nation is sorta (kinda) like what the late Byzantine Empire could have become, had it survived. (In fact, there's quite a nice little storyline somehwere on my flashdrive - I'll tell you sometime if you're interested.)
Ventares
10-03-2009, 02:42
Can I join as a third party with no religious motivation? My nation could be interested in destabilizing the situation for war profiteering. I would most likely play both sides.
United Gordonopia
10-03-2009, 03:41
ooc: just makin sure, is this modern or past?
Torturous Chamber
10-03-2009, 03:44
OOC:It's Medieval Times (MT), Yeah, I was confused too, but I believe it is...
United Gordonopia
10-03-2009, 03:47
are u sure it's not modern, cuz most people have been posting as if it is. I thnk he would have said medieval if he meant that it was.
Stevid
10-03-2009, 12:17
OOC: It says MT in the thread title which is Modern Technology. If it was Tech c.1200-1500 then he would have stated that in the thread title. But it is commonly (If not regarded as a general rule on these forums) that MT means Modern Technology.
Osea 767
10-03-2009, 12:20
Guys, its modern tech(MT). I don't know where Torturous Chamber got the idea that this RP is set in Medieval Times. New Chalcedon and Ventares, you're accepted. New Chalcedon, you are going to be the last person I'm going to accept for the Christian side and yes, I would be interested in reading your storyline.
Cukarica
10-03-2009, 12:43
Should we post ORBAT's and beggining storylines of our parties here or in the IC thread?
Osea 767
10-03-2009, 13:06
I intend to post an IC thread today, but I will for a couple of hours just in case anyone wants to join the Islamic/arab side. Once I post the IC thread, I will no longer accept new players for either sides.
Parilisa
10-03-2009, 20:34
Sorry, but count me out. If I'm gonna be on the Arab side I'd be against two of my allies. Sorry.
Osea 767
10-03-2009, 21:46
Alright Parilisa.
Rolling Dead
10-03-2009, 22:07
Eh, why is the Islamic side only Arab?

Thats quite restricting see as how Islam is a religion for all people, not just Arabs.
Osea 767
10-03-2009, 22:37
What Islamic/Arab means is the Side is for nations that are either Islamic or Arab.
Torturous Chamber
11-03-2009, 00:16
Sorry my mistake. I'll be the Teutonic Order, still. I'll modify my orbat.

16th Teutonic Armored Division

Infantry

1000 Riflemen
500 Specialists(Anti-Tank Crews, Medics, Snipers)

Armor

100 Light Skirmish Tanks; 3 crew
500 Teutonic Heavy Tanks (Lightly tested in battle); 4 crew
200 Teutonic Heavy Tanks (Veterans); 4 crew

Other

Grand Master Jungingen, Master of the Teutonic Order, second to Pope
The Grand Master Tank-The pride of the Order; 240mm cannon, 4 50-calibre machine guns, 16 rocket pods; 7 crew (excluding GM)
500 Light tanks accompanying the Master Tank; 3 crew
200 Guards of the fortress
500 Reserve riflemen

Total: 5,808 troops
United Gordonopia
11-03-2009, 00:20
are you just gonna post the link to the ic thread here when you make it?
Osea 767
11-03-2009, 00:27
Exactly, but it is late where I am at the moment. Also, I intend to start this by having my nation ask one of the other Christian nations for help, and have them in term call on the other nations to get involved. So, are there any volunteers for that?
Torturous Chamber
11-03-2009, 00:31
Osea, can you knock Basgonia and Polizia off the list of Christians? I'm only gonna play the Chamberlain Teutons.
New Chalcedon
11-03-2009, 00:40
At the moment, the Empire of New Chalcedon is meditating on joining the Christian side.

However, Osea's membership of the CIN makes that difficult - I hope that Cukarica and Wolf Hold realise that they will be on the opposite side from Osea.

I think that the CIN members on this thread need to discuss the issue on the CIN boards, *before* taking actions that may see any/all of us expelled from the Commonwealth.
The Wolf Hold
11-03-2009, 08:17
If you look very carefully New Chalcedon A) I am RPing a BREAKAWAY christian nation B) We are fighting an Osean puppet, Osea himself is on the christian side

Oh Osea, If you want more Islamic/Arabs. I could use my puppet
Cukarica
11-03-2009, 08:42
I hope that Cukarica and Wolf Hold realise that they will be on the opposite side from Osea.

Read more carefully dude...jeez

Im RP-ing a Christian Order not an Islamic country/order/organisation etc...
And this being obviously non-canon(correct me if i'm mistaken) its not CIN/CIS matter so i don't see your problem.

Il post my ORBAT here and the backstory in the IC thread when it comes up.

Basics:

Order of the Holy Martyr

Members:45 000 across the world
Affiliation: Orthodox Church
Origin:Federation of Cukarica
Supreme Commander:Grand Inquisitor Isildien


ORBAT

1st "Knights" Mechanised Brigade

100 Viking MBT
200 Lazar APC
20 Humvee's

Attached mobile artillery Battalion with 40 Grad multiple rocket launchers.


7th Light Infantry "Divine Path"

3000 men
200 Lazar APC

13th "God's hand" Armored Brigade

140 Viking MBT
200 Pest MBT

1st Volunteer Battalion "Light's Hope"

2000 men
100 Lazar APC
Stevid
11-03-2009, 12:55
My Templar ORBAT will come soon
Osea 767
11-03-2009, 14:54
I am RPing a BREAKAWAY christian nation B) We are fighting an Osean puppet, Osea himself is on the christian side
Wolf Hold is right. However, I do intend this to be canon so if you still have concerns, I will discuss the issue on the CIN boards. Wolf Hold, I'm going to keep the sides as they are, and intend to create the IC thread once New Chalcedon's concerns have been sorted.
Stevid
11-03-2009, 18:03
Order of the Knights Templar (Stevidian Chapter)

Members: 6 Million in Stevid alone
Affiliation: Holy Roman Catholic Church
Supreme Commander: Brother Captain Iystaan of the 4th Company



4TH BATTLE COMPANY (Templar) & 8TH STEVIDIAN ARMOURED BRIGADE (Army)

1st 'Knights' Brigade

5,000 Knights Templar
350 FV510 Warrior APCs
30 FV107 Scimitars
200 V-22 Osprey Helos

2nd 'Holy Sister' Brigade

5,000 Knights Templar
350 FV510 Warrior APCs
30 FV107 Scimitars
200 V-22 Osprey Helos

3rd 'Divine Right' Brigade

6,000 Knights Templar
450 FV510 Warrior APCs
60 FV107 Scimitars
300 V-22 Osprey Helos

1st Cheribium Armoured Brigade

2,000 Knights Templar
200 FV510 Warrior APCs
60 AMX-30B2 MBTs
100 T-72 MBTs

8th Stevidian Armoured Brigade

3,000 Standard and Specialist Infantry
70 LY4 Wolfhound MBTs
20 Predator 1A2 Heavy MBTs
100 FV510 Warrior APCs
30 M270 MLRS
30 M109 Howitzers


NOTES

The Templars in Stevid are the luckier than any religious military order in the NS world (A bold claim I know, but I can back it up ;) ) The government is pro-religious and directly funds the Templar military through 20% of the funds alloted to the Church in Stevid. The other funds come through chairty to the Templars through collections of dedicated charities throughout the world. The Order of the Knights Templar in Stevid is truelly global. This is why they can field such powerful equipment and have so many Knights. It's also why my government is directly contributing Stevidian Armed forces as allies with the Church.

OOCly they're just fun to RP with, ICly they shouldn't be under estimated. I needn't have to prove it but if you ask then I will- BUT I have RPed with these guys before and they have gain somewhat of a reputation on NS.

Looking forward to this RP BTW. Looking good so far so let's keep up the good work.
New Chalcedon
11-03-2009, 18:12
They've been sorted, and I am joining the Christian side, although the Empire won't officially get involved.

I guess I should have read all 50-odd replies. I just looked at the first post and saw Osea on one side and WH and Cukarica on the other. Now that that's been amended to be more clear, I'm quite happy with things.

The forces here will essentially be volunteers raised by the Orthodox Church, and will consist of the following:

First Battalion.

Commander: Nikolaus Pherides, Lt.-Col. (retd.), Imperial Army.
Troops: 5 companies, 200 men each.
Vehicles: 12 Leopard 2 (PSO variant), 16 CV90 APCs, fitted with MEXAS armour.
Support equipment: 8 Apache helicopters, configuredwith AGM-77 Hellfire missiles in anti-vehicular role. Additionally, 1 Battalion possesses some infantry-based anti-tank weaponry.
Support personnel: 200.

Second Battalion.

Commander: Elena Parthalimbos, Col. (retd.), Varangian Guard.
Troops: 6 companies, 180 men each.
Vehicles: 24 Leclerc main battle tanks, 24 CV90 APC, with MEXAS armour.
Support equipment: Significant quantities of infantry-usable anti-tank weaponry. In addition, this company emphasises personal armour for its troops.
Support personnel: 150.

Each company has attached a team of 10 field doctors, with supplies for both field surgery and base care.
Military Command
11-03-2009, 19:40
I would like to know as part of the Teutonic Knights of Military Command if I could please? If I could I will be placing my Orders military Order of Battle up soon.
Void Templar
11-03-2009, 22:45
Ordo Faek Sythdol (Order of the Void Templar)
Members: 3 Million
Affiliation: Kalist Church
Grand Master: Boswyl Gabriel Eran

Zweydk ab Rak Battalion

3000 Alkefosal Footsoldiers
400 M1 Abrams MBTs
100 WAH-64 Apache Gunships
50 FV101 Scorpions

Wofkz ab Rak Battalion
6000 Alkefosal Footsoldiers
400 Puma IFVs

Small army, I know, but that's all I'll need. :D
Stevid
11-03-2009, 22:47
Tis going to be a dreadfully good war this! :D
The Wolf Hold
11-03-2009, 23:19
Ill get my ORBAT as soon as possible, running into a few RL problems.
Osea 767
11-03-2009, 23:34
Ok, the main thread is now up. Here is the Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=586504).
Torturous Chamber
12-03-2009, 00:39
I am also planning to bring the 16th Air Wing later in the war. It will have 36 Phoenix Fighters(4 heavy machine guns, carries virtually any missile)
New Chalcedon
12-03-2009, 01:55
Given the scale of the situation (I had thought it was smaller), I may at some later point decide to expand my nation's involvement.
The Wolf Hold
12-03-2009, 09:02
The Free Christian Union
Population: 54 Million
Affiliation: Church Of Larka
First Dragga: Micheal Servin

During the Civil war that brought the 1st Wolf's Marshall into power inside The Wolf Hold, a group of enterprising Christians broke away from the country and went off to find a new land. The found it and made it a haven for all Christians fleeing oppression. Even though they broke away from The Wolf Hold they still have heavy basis in Wolf Lore and still maintain very good diplomatic relations with the nation proper and Wolverine Defence Corporations/Heavy Industries, enabling them to field the equipment normally seen being used by the Wolf Hold Military

Order Of The Wolf
CinC- General Fell
2iC- Major General Khaz
100 Man HQ Company


1st Battalion, "The Balkar"
OC-Major Morgara

1500 Crew/Soldiers
250 LY4A2 "Wolfhounds"
50 M.A.C M1-T958 W/155mm Gun
50 Stormer Starstreak HVM Vehicle
20 5 and 1/2 Ton Logistics Trucks

2nd Battalion, "Kar's Claws"
OC-Major Kar

5050 Soldiers (3 Rifle Companys, 1 Fire Support Company, 1 Recon Company, 50 Man HQ Comapny)
100 20762AT "Lioness" HIFV
100 2020AT "Lioness" HIFV
100 20762 "Lioness" HIFV
100 2040 "Lioness" HIFV
80 Jackal WMIKs
50 "LandWolf" AA Missile Systems

3rd Battalion, "Alina's Wrath"
OC-Major Bran

5050 Soldiers (3 Rifle Companys, 1 Fire Support Company, 1 Recon Company, 50 Man HQ Comapny)
100 20762AT "Lioness" HIFV
100 2020AT "Lioness" HIFV
100 20762 "Lioness" HIFV
100 2040 "Lioness" HIFV
80 Jackal WMIKs
50 "LandWolf" AA Missile Systems

4rd Battalion, "Fenris's Fist"
OC- Major Skop

1000 Crew
50 HIMARS (10 Batterys)
100 Archer FH77 BW L52 SPH (10 Batterys)
100 Atmos 2000 155mm Self-Propelled Artillery System (10 Batterys)
50 "Land Wolf" AA Missile Systems (10 Batterys)
300 5 and 1/2 ton trucks
100 A.R.A.T.V
10 TPS-75 Vehicles

5th Battalion, "Larkas Wind"
OC- Group Captain Kipcha

700 Pilots/Logistics Crew
2000 Comabt Soldiers (1 Airbourne Assault Company, 1 Garrison Company)
30 Tornado GR4s
10 F-15E Strike Eagle
40 AH-1Z Super Cobras
20 UH-60 Blackhawk
10 AH-60 Attackhawk
20 Fuel Trucks
15 Wolf WMIKs


Total Strength: 15,400
Total Combat Troops: 12,000
Total Logistics Crew: 3,400
Osea 767
12-03-2009, 20:55
Alright, here (http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/Osea767/ThreadMap.png) is a map of both the Holy Osean Empire(shown in red) and the Ottoman Empire(shown in yellow). I have also included a blue line which shows roughly what the Holy Osean Empire intends to take from the Ottoman empire.
Void Templar
15-03-2009, 19:10
OOC: TG, Osea.
Osea 767
15-03-2009, 19:12
OOC: I've read it and yes, you could.
Stevid
15-03-2009, 19:25
Can some of the Islamist nations please post because I want them to do something before I join in.
Torturous Chamber
15-03-2009, 22:57
Yeah the Islamic nations haven't posted at all.