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Alright, so I'm reading this series by John Ringo where the modern-day Earth is invaded by man-eating centaur-aliens (I know, its a mouthful. They're called Posleen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posleen)).

The nations of the Earth are forced to defend themselves with whatever their militaries have.

I was wondering if anyone would be willing to do an RP wherein all involved countries would defend from such an invasion.

ooc: i'd be willing to join .. our White Corporation could test out their latest defence technologies developments on the invaders and it would also allow us to form more diplomatic relations :)

OOC: Are we playing as RL nations like in the books or our NS-nations?

We would be using our NS nations, seeing as in the books, to all intents and purposes, despite living to fight another day, the humans pretty much lose.

BTW, this is an OOC thread, you don't need to put ooc in fornt of everything.

Sure, sounds fun. I'm in.

What that page does not cover is the sheer size of Posleen armies: they do not have support personnel, so all their listed 'forces' are COMBAT PERSONNEL. Individual armies tend to number at a dozen-million or so (the largest are quoted at 24 million). The way they fight is described on that wiki page, I believe.

ok go XD

This would also probably be taking place in an alternate universe (as it will probably devestate all nations involved) so it would not affect other RPs we're involved in.

Aww, and my Anti-Alien organisation just disbanded :( But some of their tech should still be seviceable

So interested are, so far:

Alanea
Wolfhold
Techno Soviet
The Fanboyists
Ustio North
The Grand Northern Alliance
Comorostan

Aww, and my Anti-Alien organisation just disbanded :( But some of their tech should still be seviceable

Wouldn't matter if it was a FT organization. Its an MT/PMT deal.

correct :)

Wouldn't matter if it was a FT organization. Its an MT/PMT deal.

It was a PMT organisation, using scaveneged Alien tech cannibalised for human use. But it's dead now. The only remaining active member is in Alanea ;)

that's also right XD

Alright. I'll give it a little more time for any more interested people to join in, then I'll start the IC thread.

A quick rundown of what we'll all be up against:
Due to the fact that we won't have the alien tech transfer of the books, we'll be dealing with very large numbers of advanced aliens with modern tech, we need all the population we can get.

Also, if any of you read the wiki page, you know that the Posleen are ravenous conquerors, and by that I mean they eat their conquests. Any cities that fall are toast, in other words.

exciting and frightening at the same time XD

I am guessing this is PMT not MT?

MT, really. The books are set in 2001-2008, so MT. You can mix a little bit of early PMT in if you want though, like artillery railguns.

The Grand Alliance of the North(Torturous Chamber, Basgonia, Polizia) will join.

Alright.

The IC thread is up. It is here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14584951#post14584951)

For the beginning we'll probably be mostly on our own, trying to coordinate defenses and all.

It just occured to me that we should probably have someone RPing the aliens...

Id like to join. Ive read the Posleen series and Id love to do an RP with them

Good. *cackles evilly*. The IC thread is up. See previous post of mine.

so are the posleen near landing? cause Id like to have them come and destroy one of my cities. sort of an advance scouting force

At the current time table, they would be about eight months from earth. I'm not getting into the whole Galactic Federation deal, as it would be too complicated to explain to everyone, so its just the Posleen, with advance warning being sent by a conquered race shortly before it was destroyed.

By the way, most of this would be based on Watch on the Rhine's scenario, as that is the first one I read and I'm only part way through Gust Front.

8 months...just enough time to build Fleet Strike mech suits!! seriously, I doubt I have that much of a R&D unit

That's okay. Like I said, the situation is supposed to be more similar to Watch on the Rhine than Gust Front. None of us are going to have ACS anyway. Just gotta make do.

no ACS? awwww.... :(
oh, and for the record, Watch on the Rhine is the best book in the series in my opinion

I agree. It is the best. Shame we probably won't get Tigers either...:(

Actually, screw that. Do you remember roughly the stats for the Tiger II's they have in WotR? I remember the 12" gun and a large crew.

Nuke reactor, railgun, crew of I think 5 or 6. AI interface, super heavy armor, and 3 super-heavy machine guns. ability to survive being near a C-Dec kamikaze. not a direct hit, but just being able to survive being in the area.

Quick Question, Could I use my Heavy Airbounre Command Cruisers?

Aww, and my Anti-Alien organisation just disbanded :( But some of their tech should still be seviceable

The Posleen are kinda odd when it comes to alien invaders. Chances are your anti-alien organization wouldn't be that useful.

The best thing against them is artillery. Masses of tube artillery. Preferably with nuclear airburst shells, because the Posleen do not* use vehicles. They're almost all infantry.

*Their leaders use open-topped flying sauchers, and if you get one of the ultrarare smart Posties, they might come up with the idea of using one of their landers as close air support, or make some sort of hovertank.

Maneuver warfare doesn't work against the Posleen, because their weapons have a tremendous power and range, and because psychologically, they don't really 'break.' Air power is similarly useless, because posleen AA lasers are incredibly accurate, and posleen sensors can see you even if you're stealthy by your power emissions. This also means that missiles will get shot down unless you pump out enough to swamp the PD.

A war against the Posleen would resemble WWI more than Desert Storm. In fact, the average modern network-centric warfare idea in vogue with modern/PMT armies is almost the wrong sort of thing for dealing with Posties. What you really want is a 1950s-style Pentomic division, which can be summed up as 'nuke, nuke, and more nuke.'

The big problem with taking out the Posties from a pure modern techbase is that, ultimately, there's no way to take out their ships in orbit. In the books, they had to wait until the human fleet came back and kicked the Posties' ass in like a page.

Anyway, I'd love to participate, but I'm a FT nation. Still, I'll keep an eye on the thread out of interest.

Comorostan: Want to build some? *grins evilly*

Wolf Hold: Are they early/early-mid PMT? If so, yes.

13th Artillery Regiment will fight for me first.

The Posleen are kinda odd when it comes to alien invaders. Chances are your anti-alien organization wouldn't be that useful.

The best thing against them is artillery. Masses of tube artillery. Preferably with nuclear airburst shells, because the Posleen do not* use vehicles. They're almost all infantry.

*Their leaders use open-topped flying sauchers, and if you get one of the ultrarare smart Posties, they might come up with the idea of using one of their landers as close air support, or make some sort of hovertank.

Maneuver warfare doesn't work against the Posleen, because their weapons have a tremendous power and range, and because psychologically, they don't really 'break.' Air power is similarly useless, because posleen AA lasers are incredibly accurate, and posleen sensors can see you even if you're stealthy by your power emissions. This also means that missiles will get shot down unless you pump out enough to swamp the PD.

A war against the Posleen would resemble WWI more than Desert Storm. In fact, the average modern network-centric warfare idea in vogue with modern/PMT armies is almost the wrong sort of thing for dealing with Posties. What you really want is a 1950s-style Pentomic division, which can be summed up as 'nuke, nuke, and more nuke.'

The big problem with taking out the Posties from a pure modern techbase is that, ultimately, there's no way to take out their ships in orbit. In the books, they had to wait until the human fleet came back and kicked the Posties' ass in like a page.

Anyway, I'd love to participate, but I'm a FT nation. Still, I'll keep an eye on the thread out of interest.

I never realized that many people besides me had read John Ringo! *has happy moment*

That's why I expanded it to early/early-middle PMT as well.

Build a railgun equipped supertank to fight hordes of alien invaders? Who WOULDN'T want to build a few? And finally, a war where using nukes is the preferred method of fighting!!

Id just like to be sure.

http://www.acecombat.jp/ace6/estovakia/aigaion01.jpg

Its the big one in the centre. I would say Mid PMT

The big problem with taking out the Posties from a pure modern techbase is that, ultimately, there's no way to take out their ships in orbit. In the books, they had to wait until the human fleet came back and kicked the Posties' ass in like a page.

Good thing I've got kinetic strikes!! and wolf hold, which ace combat is that from?

Ok then I'm in.

Its Ace Combat 6: Fires Of Liberation. Its the Estovakian P-1112 Aigion Command Cruiser with KC-13 Tankers. The Ships in the Back ground are the 2 Gyges AA Aircraft and 2 Kottos ESM Aircraft

I have got to play that game

That should be OK, Wolf Hold, seeing as Comorostan and I are building tanks with nuke reactors and railguns.

Comoro, I think we'll be saying 'hi' to CANISTER SHOT! *reads Posleen mass death scenes again*

Good thing I've got kinetic strikes!! and wolf hold, which ace combat is that from?

I hope you've got enough to deal with thousands of Posleen ships. Because the Posties don't screw around when it comes to planetary invasions. Also, chances are that any platform you use will get vaporized after it fires. In the books, the posleen wiped out the galtech* planetary defense guns after they fired once.

*Galtech="Galactic Tech" - In the books, the humans had help from a group of two-timing alien scum who provided them with very nice tech even as they tried to screw us over and turn us into a slave race.

Not all the Galactics were two-timing alien scum. just the head aliens. and yes, I know that my platforms will get pwned the minute they fire but I can still dream, d*mmit!! :rolleyes:

Back.

Hell, even if we had Fleet, we'd be toast. The Fleet gets blown to itsy bitsy pieces, remember?

oh riiiiight....well, looks like its N00K time

Noooo....neutron bombs!

Scratch nukes, how about Plasma Yeild or even..........anti-matter

anti-matter?! dundunduuuuuuunnn!!! (cue lighting flash). but that gives me an idea...

(c) On the Anti-matter missiles, but i doubt anti-matter is even early PMT

darn...I suppose we can salvage some from the Posleen

Do they have anti-matter weaponry?

Wolf Hold has a good point. The anti-matter weps that the humans get in the books are directly from the Federation.

Remember, though, neutron bombs are effective against Posties. Might as well have something like that, seeing as gassing 'em doesn't really work.

Do they have anti-matter weaponry?

Some. Mostly the reactors on God-King tenars (and by extension the weapons on them) have anti-matter reactors, which are intensely unstable (use snipers to take 'em out).

what about wrecked ships? would they have anything useful? I haven't read the books in a long time I'm trying to remember if there's anything you can salvage from a C-Dec

From the C-Decs? Not much, if I recall correctly. As far as I've read, the only C-Dec they fought got nuked, so there wasn't much left of it. You're almost better off trying to take down a tenar without exploding it and jacking the core. I don't remember if there was anything usable from downed lampreys except the rail guns, if I recall.

well hey, railguns are good! so no major source of anti-matter. there goes that idea

Who says that for the next 4 months my scientist arnt going to be slaving away to develop siad supply

Like I said, we could try to knock out tenars with out exploding 'em.

Hell, if we could capture a C-Dec or lamprey, we could get some, probably.

This sounds fun... In fact this sounds very fun.
Perhaps I can help with some SDI weaponry? The biggest problem is that there is no way to take down the hostile fleet, since it is above orbit in space.

But I have a series of prototype Railguns (loosely based on the Stonehenge Railguns from AC4
See here: Link
Size compare: Link (http://www.shatteredskies.net/images/makingof/moart/ME0000148948_2.jpg) scattered around the nation that might be able to reach them, they have a 10 second rate of fire but only around 20 rounds of low yield nukes.

bump

yeah has 2 months passed yet...zz

I think the alien will arrive when Fanboyists gets back on, so finish your preparations

Are you all ready? If so, the invasion will begin.

I'm ready. <Rolls up sleeves, cracks knuckles> Let's DO THIS!!! XD

Well can I join?

The artillery of Torturous Chamber, Basgonia, and Polizia are pointed towards the sky...

Well can I join?

It's a little late: I'm sorry I forgot to put that new countries were closed from here on out, unless you wanted to play as a completely unprepared country, in which case, I'm sorry, your people will probably get butt-raped (as we're RPing the invasion starting now). Alternately, if you so desire, you could RP the Posleen invaders. Those are your choices.

It's a little late: I'm sorry I forgot to put that new countries were closed from here on out, unless you wanted to play as a completely unprepared country, in which case, I'm sorry, your people will probably get butt-raped (as we're RPing the invasion starting now).
It's day one of your invasion right now. I was planning on entering right when they became detected from earth so that's about the same time. My nation has quite a bunker system from the time it was nuked and put under seige so getting civilians out of the cities would be do able (but not before having an entire division butchered.)

It's up to you.

Alternately, if you so desire, you could RP the Posleen invaders. Those are your choices. Well I can RP the orders command is sending. You start RPing a city holding them off they send extras to finish the job.

You can join in with your country, I guess. We're all RPing our respective Posleen (that we're fighting). Just make it fun.