Strator slave war [Archive]

Strator

06-03-2009, 11:18

OOC: I am rejecting Kahomata aid as it is likely I will lose and then Kahomata is gonna get the hell kicked out of himself. It also appears as if that peace conference isn't gonna happen now. Oh well...

To Cuborg: Thanks for clearing that up, sorry for the misunderstanding.

IC:

On the Stratorian coast alarms were raised and all the people on the southern cities began to mobilize. They had been drilled on this before, civilians rushed to the nearest bomb shelters, each stocked with enough weapons for a small army and food for a week.

The Stratorian built ABM system, "Tyr" had just been installed in five positions along the southern coast and held two missiles each as the others were still in transport. The previous ABM system had just been taken apart as soon as the Tyr became operational. The operators felt the strain, they had to make each missile count, as even if all hit their marks, two warhead would still pass through the defense.

The operators worked together as one, the communication between them quick and all the missiles were allocated a target. The two missiles which would be left were the ones which were deemed to do the least damage based on their current trajectory.

The weapons had been found to originate from a ship of Cuborgian origin.

To Cuborg:

It has come to my attention that your nation has just fired multiple ICBMs directly at Stratorian cities and military outposts. To attack a military base is acceptable during war times, of course, but to directly aim WMDs at major civilian areas is far worse than the slavery I impose. Any of those warheads, should they reach their target, be able to kill thousands, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions should they all hit ground. These are innocent people, not rapists or murderers. Needless to say this is seen as an act of war, and should god see it fit, I shall kill all of your leaders slowly, and painfully.

In all sincerity,
Augustus Stratorius Rex III
Lord Archon of the dominion

OOC: What kind of warheads are you using?

Macgruber

06-03-2009, 14:52

The Macgruber Government knew they had to act fast and now if they where to complete phase one of there plan. The Invasion Force had to take out or damage all threats to their present in Strator Waters. 4 Missile ships placed 500m away from the fleet fire 33(3 at each), BGM-109 Tomahawk with conventional: 1,000 lb explosive payload at military targets along the coast. (see map)

http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss26/Macgruber12/Targetinstrator1-1.jpg

OOC: The Circles doesn't mean we Bombard the whole area just the Target it highlights.

Strator

06-03-2009, 16:04

OOC: Damn, your ships are big as hell. How far off shore are you, can I set the howies on you or are you farther then 20km? What warheads are being used? I have some Sea sparrows on my battleships, would these be of any use against a tomahawk?

To Void templar: any help is appreciated

Just in case anyone would like to know, Strator uses ABMs (based on the israeli 'arrow'), ASMs (also tomahawks), AMMs (RIM -166 RAM) and a decent amount of howies (M777 with excalibur rounds) along my coastline entrenched within the seaforts. Its a sort of three part defence system with ASMs and ABMs being active in long range defence, AMMs covering the mid range and howies taking anything which comes too close. What I do not understand is why Macgruber went for that particular area, it is clearly the most military active, so it is not hard to assume that it is the best defended. There is a fairly large fleet within the cove.

Macgruber

06-03-2009, 17:28

OOC: They aren't as big as shown on the map its just a representation of the large fleet of ships moving towards your country, The warheads are high explosives meant for destroying heavily forfeited structures Shrapnel is then launched at high speeds into the surrounding area (Up to 250 meters). And the fleet is probably 35km from the coast. I'll tell you when they reach 20km that will probably also be when we engage coastal defenses better.

--At One Of Two Flag Ships--

"We are 35kms off the coast, The Cove is a little farther out. Aircrafts will move ahead of the fleet with Battleships support and engage their defenses."
"Expect heavy casualties when attacking their coastal defenses, You will need missile support, I'm gaining the authorization right now."
The Men on the transports where restless, Being cramped on boats with men they just met for 4 days. within 1 hours, howitzers would rain down on their boats for a while in till they reached the shore and hopefully most coastal defenses would be down by then, and they will first see combat. This was not the last wave to enter Strator, if they won the ground here more would come. The Navy would move into the cove and engage the ships with heavy air support. Macgruber expected air superiority would be handed over to him for this battle for sure but the next ones to come, the government wasn't sure of.

Kahomata

06-03-2009, 20:01

:(:(:mad::(:(

Cuborg

06-03-2009, 20:30

OOC: The warheads are basically weaponized ANFO, nothing nuclear.

The ships had launched its deadly payload against the defenses of Strator. The Sasha was ordered to pull back to Cuborg waters, and the Kirill was to directly cover the amphibious assault. Without the Kirill, the Zubr landing craft would be sitting ducks as they moved up to the southern shore. The landing craft were carrying approximately 1850 troops, twelve K2 tanks on loan from the Koreans, and four extremely-heavily armored bulldozers. The dozers would be almost prohibitively slow, but would serve as mobile shields for the ground troops. The Kirill was about 15 kilometers ahead of the landing craft, and 20 kilometers from the shore.

To Strator:
We are sure that you are aware that civilian casualties are unavoidable in war. We can assure you that these people were not the targets. The coastal defenses were the targets. Perhaps you shouldn't have put your people in such danger.

Kraveska

07-03-2009, 04:02

To- Macgruber

I can send fighters to take out enemy planes if you want me to, and I can also fit some of them for ground attack. And just so you remember, my troops will get there pretty soon, and the 50 choppers I'm letting you borrow are on the way.

Macgruber

07-03-2009, 04:05

I need your planes to target all coastal defenses. Ships,Fighters,Howitzers anything that is a threat to the Fleet. You will be given support from Macgruber ships and Fighters.

Kraveska

07-03-2009, 04:15

I don't know if this is the way I'm supposed to do this, so bear with me.

The engines of the five Cl-32 fighters fired up, as the airbase personnel moved out of the way of the aircraft. The first plane taxied onto the runway. It started rolling down the runway, slowly at first, and faster as the engines roared louder and louder. Right behind this plane, the second plane was moving down the runway. The first plane took off, and the rest of them were close behind. It would be awhile until they reached their targets along the coast of Strator. The pilots settled into their seats, knowing that there was a long and dangerous flight ahead of them. As the planes were flying over the ocean, they passed over the Macgruber transport ships, along with the Kraveskan cargo ships, that were carrying the Kraveskan soldiers to Strator.

Oh, and also, I'll be sending more planes than this, just so you know.

Birkaine

07-03-2009, 05:03

A large detachment of the 3rd Fleet of the Birkanian Navy was sent to help the nations in the buildup aganist Strator. Carriers where nowhere to be seen, and the fleet was being led by the mighty Stonager, one of the few Omen-class (http://i41.tinypic.com/1695clw.jpg) ballistic missile dreadnoughts of the seafaring birkanians. Protecting it where two Emissary-class (http://i39.tinypic.com/2u9gzcz.jpg) AA battleships, destined to intercept any missile threat. Trailing the behemoths, four Slava-class cruisers, eight Kirov-class cruisers, ten Sovremenny-class destroyers, ten LaFayette-class frigates and a multitude of support ships. They were meant to bombard the coast back into the stone age, something reflected in the flagship's name. Powerful FAE-tipped cruise and ballistic missiles were onboard most of the ships.

<<This is Admiral Benjamin Krakev, captain of the Omen-class Stonager. This is our day, comrades!>>
The speech was transmitted by the loudspeakers of the Birkanian ships, revving up the young sailors. The ships were cautious at any sign of the Stratorian Navy, as they approached. The Birkanians really didn't know what to expect, having nearly no combat experience. However, their patriotic pride overran their common sense.

The maneuver was simple enough. Search and destroy any Stratorian Navy presence in a wide seep from the south, while a smaller group of cruisers would break off from the main formation to bombard the southern defenses and towns. Midway trough the path, the Omen and the Emissaries would also break off to destroy assigned targets such as airbases and refineries, and half of the remaining fleet would follow the flagship. The remaining destroyers and frigates were meant to conclude the sweep, and regroup with the larger vessels once their maneuver was over.

Kraveska

07-03-2009, 05:35

"Coast in sight"
The voice of captain Vehelsech Turgenzastad came over the communication systems of the CL-32 fighters. The coast could be seen in the distance. It was two hours since they took off. The jets remained at their current altidude until they got closer, then they began to dive, slowly at first, and steadily steeper. By now, they had approached the coast, and their first target was in view. A bunker with a large anti-ship cannon near the coast. The first jet dived down, leveled out, and fired a missile. Then he pulled up and rejoined the other planes. One of the other pilots, who was behind the first plane, confirmed the kill. The bunker was destroyed, and smoke rose from the wreckage.

Belkaland

07-03-2009, 05:53

OOC: Is there a map of Strator?

Strator

07-03-2009, 06:07

OOC: I know, I was joking. M777 can hit targets 40km off with Excalibur rounds.

IC:

Against Macgruber:

At the western coast showers of excalibur shells were being brought down on the Macgrubber navy, the main aim was to provide saturation fire, rather than singling out individual ships. The Stratorian navy made its way out of the cove, the RAMs taking care of the majority of the incoming missile, but unfortunately some hit ground. Two of the Sea forts were blasted apart, Yet as debris and shrapnel fell around them, the howitzer gunners kept their cool and kept up the fire. Casualties were high, around fifty men died in the southernmost fort, yet the gap made was soon filled by reserves from behind.

The Stratorian fleet battleships turned side and commenced fire on the Macgrubber ships. Underneath fire from all sides, they hopefully would not be able to deal with the bombers on their way. Six Tu-160s flew in low and fast, speed being their only protection. They carried the GBU-43 MOAB, which is hardly conventional against sea vehicles. But the size of the blasts, although unlikely to do much damage physically, would break enemy formations and allow them to be beaten down by the Stratorian fleet which drew ever closer.

Flying just ahead of these were previously out of service C-130J super transports, these monsters of airplanes were laden with explosives and so were kept in a fairly wide formation, they were to go for the larger ships of the enemy fleet, with priority targets being designated as any carriers or dreadnoughts Macgruber had. They had only one crew member each, the most devoted of the Stratorian airforce. These were to, at their tops speed fly directly into their targets, as they came within range, their pilots would set the fuse for all explosives onboard.

On the flanks of all these planes flew the fighters, F-15 eagles, around fifteen of them. These would fly the furthest ahead and engage any enemy planes in the vicinity. They were not the newest of planes, and their pilots could only hope that they outnumbered the enemy, as if it came down to a one on one dogfight, the newer models were more than likely to win. They would still provide the cover necessary for the bombers to break through, hopefully.

The planes were now just 40 km from the Macgrubber fleet and they set themselves to fly at their top speed. The Tu-160s would pass far ahead of the kamikaze pilots and make it to the enemy long before them. Should even one bomber let his payload loose, it would open the gap for them. Nonetheless, the C-130Js would fly high, so that they would only be hit once above the enemy fleet, they would not die for nothing.

Against Cuborg:

The southern military island of K23 began firing its howitzers at the Cuborg fleet, as did the mainland coast. The barrage which was coming from both sides of the fleet would soon be joined by the Stratorian fleet which came both from K23 and the naval bay.

Nine of the Tyr missiles had hit their target, but one had missed, leaving on of the important airforce bases levelled, the two missile which had been left alone hit the eastern airforce base and the northernmost naval base. This severely crippled the air support which could be provided. Several planes were already airborne before the impact, but only the base on K23 was left functional.

This quickly mobilized, and in time with the jets on the mainland, flew towards the fleet. The mainland jets were mainly fighters, F22A Raptors, fairly advanced planes, but few in number. They would try to deal with enemy air support, as would the F16 from K23. Some considered a Kamikaze strike should they fin the dogfight, as K23 had few bombers so there was little which could be done against the fleet. These bombers too were mobilized, B1 lancers which would peper the enemy with a volley of small Mk-65 sea mines, each could carry quite a few of these, so it they could cause a decent amount of chaos within the enemy force.

A detachment of submarines made their way forward, 3 688-class and 5 K-278 attack subs. These would strike as soon as the bombers had finished up, but until then would keep just short of the enemy fleet, deep and out of detection.

OOC: Sorry if this wasn't too great RPing, but this is my first war RP.

To Kahomata: Sorry about that, but I am most likely going to be defeated, mostly because I do not wear metal socks.

Kraveska

07-03-2009, 06:21

The five Kravekan jets had flown for another fifteen minutes when they reached the main area of fighting. Three of the planes, the ones that had been equipped for ground attack, dived in on the Stratorian forces, taking out three howitzer gun emplacements, and a RAM launch pad. The other two jets closed in on the bombers attacking the Macgrubber fleet. They locked on to their targets, two C130j supertransports, and fired.

Strator

07-03-2009, 06:25

OOC: I haven't engaged in combat with my planes yet...

Kraveska

07-03-2009, 06:30

OOC: I haven't engaged in combat with my planes yet...

But I have, and your planes were my target.

Macgruber

07-03-2009, 14:55

As soon as the fired shells came down the fleet spread out defensively in between each ship was now 180m. That did not stop the first wave of shells fired from the guns. Two battleships where hit not critical and 3 transport ships directly 842 died from the shells. Any ships with a artillery gun fired at the defenses on the coast, The Air guarded bombers moved out, 60 A-10s, 45 B-52s and 3 B-2s stealth bombers (Only they weren't showing on radar.) But there guard was the most frighten, 115 F-35s and 20 F-22s flow with the group and readied to engage all threats to the Bombers. The Aircrafts above the fleet some engaged both approaching naval vessels and aircrafts, Bombers showed on there radar and 5 fighters speed to intercept them. A shell from one of the howitzers struck another transport vessel 540 died instantly. The Airforce was now engaging (or soon to) F-15s, C130js and Tu-160s. The Fleet was now 19kms offshore. A volley of tomahawks where launched at the coastal defenses again this time there where only 30. A destroyer was hit directly with a shells, The small destroyer was now dead in the water. 30 died from the shell.

OOC: There is about 120 F-35s and 30 F-22s, 55 Apache, 60 Mil Mi-24 and 10 Mil Mi-28 guarding the fleet,The reason for such high numbers is because there protecting a Massive Transport Fleet. I hope you understand things won't be like this the entire war.

Jalanat

07-03-2009, 17:10

Jalanese peacekeeping forces land on the beaches of Strator.
the 1st royal division moves to a coastal city where they give life packages to the citizens. (water, food, candles, flashlights etc.)

Kraveska

07-03-2009, 17:32

The two fighter jets turned, and confirm that they hit their target. The missiles had made direct hits on both of them. They turned to face the group of planes, locked on to their new targets, and fired.

Jalanat

07-03-2009, 17:44

Jalanese Chinooks fly over the Strator skies dropping more life supplies for the citizens of varioust towns and cities. Jala Soma gave a press conference about the war.

"This was shamefully had to happen, people war Strator and of course it are in this case the rich who fight and the poor who die. our nation will stay neutral but we will help the citizens to survive this war as most of you people already saw in the news." A man came towards Jala Soma and whispered something in his ear, Jala Soma nodded. "May the poor people be freed from this war" under the loud noise of the crowd Jala Soma went off the stage and into the government building. he went inside his office where his old friend Kyoto Shi was. "Good speech." Kyoto Shi said. but i don't quite agree with you staying neutral. "What do you mean?" Jala said. "I'd say we should have bought these slaves to work in our uranium mines." Kyoto said. Jala Soma frowned at Kyoto. "If we do that our nation will be invaded too, and also it is just cruel i won't do that." Kyoto laughed "Do you know how many people die in the mines, why not let those criminals die in there." Jala Soma dismissed Kyoto Shi and sat in his office. he watched his own press conference on the news as he always did, evaluating his speech about what he did right and what he should not do in the next press conference. he then saw Kyoto Shi with a gun. he seemed like he was aiming at him. Jala looked closely, he thought he didn't look good enough but it really was so. he was almost assasinated.

Cuborg

07-03-2009, 20:27

The landing craft made been pleasantly surprised to not have encountered the Strator navy. The commander aboard the front had just ordered his men to check their equipment, when the Kirill radioed in abruptly. It seems that the destroyer had detected the Strator artillery flying over it on radar. But all the captain had time to pass on was "Artillery, coming in." The men in the landing craft ducked down, as the shells started falling. Many of them landed harmlessly in the ocean, but several directly hit the craft and shredded the men aboard it. The Kirill had made it within visual range of the Strator coast. The engines slowed down, and the ship floated forwards slowly, awaiting the Strator air force. The wall still stood, protecting the land. The Kirill turned its main gun towards the wall, and begun to fire the large shells into the hulking wall.

Macgruber:
We will send a squadron of fifteen Su-25's to assist your attack.

Jalanat

07-03-2009, 20:59

Jala remained neutral in the war, however Kyoto Shi was now hostile in his eyes. he did not want him to get near to him. Kyoto Shi stirred up a lot of people on the matter of the war and Anarchy started, people threw chairs through electronics shops, day light robberies. mugging it all happened.
this is a news broadcast on channel 5 18:00 news.
John: Thomas i am now standing at Entei street, this is where the riots are the worst, there are protesters all around and people simply walking by are being spitted at and sometimes robbed. right now we have a woman here who said she had been raped on the street with a lot of people who are eye witnesses, she want to stay anonymous so we will call her Betty, please remember that this is not her reall name. Betty?
"Betty": Its all true it was horrible and... sorry i just can't
John: it must have been a horrible experience
"Betty": Yes, yes it was.
John: are you sure you want to do this?
"Betty": yes, Jala Soma please do something!

Jala watched the news broadcast. he knew he had to do something drastic to shut their mouths for good, he had to engage into war with Strator. neutrality wasn't an option, war would shock the people and they would stop, thinking their plan backfired. Jala decided. the 1st royal division was called back to the homeland and instead the 5th infantry division started landing on the beaches of Strator. artillery fire shot down some of the ships but most ships made it to the beachheads, there the soldiers came to another barrier, barbed wire. the soldiers quickly placed some C-4 and blew away the barbed wire. heavy Machinegun fire killed around 12% of the Jalanese soldiers but when they got underneath their line of sight it was clear the Jalanese would gain the upper hand. the soldiers quickly stormed the bunkers eliminating the Machineguns. enemy F-18 superhornets were spotted coming in from a military base just west of their position, they quickly called for F-22 raptors to fight these F-18 superhornets. several bombers also appeared on the battlefield, throwing bombs at locations where Jalanese armor was moving in. on a main road the front truck of a Jalanese military convoy was taken down stopping them dead in their tracks. the units pushed through to a small town where there was minor resistance. the enemy Machineguns did their work again and eliminated most of the infantry coming in, APCs moved in carrying dozens of Jalanese forces trying to get behind the Machine gun nests. however enemy armor was moving into the area.

Birkaine

08-03-2009, 00:35

The Birkanian maneuver was completed, without finding any Stratorian naval presence. The fleet was now divided in three taskforces, with the flagship in the central one.

<<Listen up, comrades! Our glorious Birkanian Army is currently en route to occupy their territory, but it shall be us, the Birkanian Navy -The captain of the Stonager shouted trough the loudspeakers- who crush the enemmies of Birkaine beneath our mighty ships! Today, we will tear the Stratorian military to pieces!! >>

The VLSs came to life, firing missile after missile of all sizes as the erectors on the Stonager deployed to fire ballistic missiles. The Stratorian anti-missile defense systems shot down many missiles, but more pushed trough, and the defensive installations gradually found themselves overrun with cruise missiles heading towards a multitude of targets ranging from airbases to refineries, all in the coast.
<<Can you feel the Birkanian might!?>>
The captain shouted, his voice trembling with excitement, his transmissions almost drowned our by the sound of the launches.
One of the missiles, a FAE-tipped supersonic cruise missile was headed towards a Stratorian fortification, which in turn was being stormed by the Jalanians. The missile missed and didn't hit the emplacement directly, and instead wiped out half of the armored bulkhead and several Jalanese soldiers and vehicles.

A second formation of ships was heading towards Stratoria.

Jalanat

08-03-2009, 00:49

the 3rd armored division lands on the beaches and quickly moves towards the 5th infantry division to aid them in taking down the armored units. B-1B bombers took down several enemy tanks still trying to move into the small town. The tanks arrived pretty fast and the tanks had to use Urban tactics. Jalanese forces moved further westward at the point where the small town ends and the country side begins, they set up snipers near the open causeway, stratorian infantry reinforcements were moving in and there were lots of them they requested reinforcements. the 3rd armored division moves to the west flank to fire at the enemies, anti tank missiles were fired at them however and most tanks got destroyed they needed backup. they sent out a distress call to all soldiers within 10 kilometres of the area (whereunder foreign soldiers) to help.

Birkaine

08-03-2009, 02:05

The ships fired volley after volley of ballistic missiles and rockets, scorching the earth in front of the Jalanatian advance. The goal was to scatter the Stratorian forces en route to intercept the 5th infantry division and arm a counter offensive, and accidentally started many wildfires that raged across some forests.

More ships came in to reinforce the bombardment. It was a fleet led by a Moskva-class helicopter carrier, followed by two modernized Yamato-class battleships, ten Winston-class cruisers, as well as eight Ticonderoga-class AEGIS destroyers; with their respective support ships such as fleet oilers. Along with them there were a few more siege-oriented ships such as two examples of the Cardinal Vaccarella (http://i43.tinypic.com/2mqje49.jpg)-class ballistic rocket battleships.

<<Attention Jalanatian forces -The captain of a nearing battleship said- This is the missile battleship Ivan the Terrible, of the Birkanian Navy. Our UAVs have been shot to hell! We need you to relay target coordinates for us now!>>

A few assault and landing ships trailed the oncoming taskforce, which approached from the southeast.

Strator

08-03-2009, 05:29

But I have, and your planes were my target.

But you said you attacked them while they were in combat, even though they hadn't reached there yet, and they had a small guard of fighters, which is still larger than your five. Its also kind of hard to beleive

To Macgrubber: Understood, but that means hell for my planes :( fortunately for me its you and not Cuborg who has that insane air fleet as I still have all my air force bases in an able condition.

To Jalanat: I don't use F18s, and which coast did you come in from? Or did you just suddenly appear inland.

IC:

Against Macgruber:

The fleet used its RIMs to great effect against the tomahawks, only a few hitting land. The AA guns were now under extreme stress in wake of the enemy air fleet. The Air bases had begun sending fighters one after another to try and wrest the air superiority.

The Howitzers kept their steady supression fire. It had slowed the enemy advance enough for the Stratorian fleet to pull up close to the opposition. Cannon fire was soon filling the air, its rumble a constant companion, it's a good thing Stratorian soldiers use earmuffs and personal transmitters. It would be a feat on its own for the Macgrubber forces to pass on orders in the cacophony. The Stratorian fleet kept up their fire as well, leading to the arrival of the Pride of the Stratorian fleet.

The Stratorian super Dreadnoughts now reached the front. There were eight of them here, out of the twelve which Strator had. Their slow speed was due to their immense weight, the bulk of them covered in thick titanium, making them nigh impregnable. The gargantuan floating fortresses which they were was an intimidating sight. They carried zounds of guns, anti-air, anti-ship, anti-sub. There was on the other hand, no such thing as an anti dreadnought gun. Maneuvering for these behemoths was difficult, but they didn't need to do much of it seeing as they could shoot from any side. They plowed through enemy ships, the serrated bow of the ships locked the ships under as they were pulled into the depths. A good placed missile could potentially sink the super Dreadnoughts, but it would have to be large and accurate. The enemy bombers may also do these beasts damage, but to do so was perilous due to the numerous AA emplacements.

Five C130Js had fallen of the original ten, but they had now reach the airspace just above the enemy fleet, they descended, gaining airspeed as they did, to destroy them now would be difficult, and the would most likely still do damage. The Tu-160s on the other hand were almost eliminated by the enemy air fleet, but the vengeance which came with this was a force to be reckoned with. 60 modified F22As along with a decent amount of MIG 33s, around 50 and ten or so F15s. The force was around equal to the enemy air fleet, but had a 1 minute before they reached dog fighting range. In this time the battle may become irretrievable. The last Tu-160 managed to drop three MOABs in the midst of the enemy, it would only be seconds before it would be spotted and taken down though.

The Remnants of the F-15 Squadron turned on the Kraveska planes, to eliminate them from the fight was a priority as it made it less likely they would receive reinforcements. five on five guns a-blazing, the Stratorian jets then locked on and fired a volley of missiles, they pursued and kept up fire in case the missiles missed.

There were some reports of soldiers seeing planes flying in between the clouds which did not show up on the radar. The concept of Macgruber stealth jets being used against them hadn't be considered. This threat had to be dealt with, and several fighters drew back from the fray, to enter in pursuit of an unseen enemy.

Against Cuborg:

Despite the lack of two major airbases, Strator still had air superiority in the south, few Cuborgian fighters were present, and any sign of enemy air support was to be eliminated by the Stratorian force.

Cuborgian guns had turned to the shores, but this left the Stratorian fleet free from fire, it drew closer, its guns keeping the deep drum rhythm of war. The sea was broken, it writhed and wretched as shells pounded down into it. The uniform surface of the morning was now warped beyond belief. That anything could float in that was a miracle.

The lancers now had reached the flank of the enemy fleet, and let loose their bomb bays amongst the enemy as they flew over. Mk-65 Sea mines would soon litter the waves, wreaking havoc amongst enemy formations. The lancers would then come around bringing more the the mines.

The subs had waited this long, and now brought their torpedo's into the enemy, Cuborg which had sought to pincer Strator along with Macgruber was now pincered itself. The forces were hit from all sides.

Against Jalanat:

The Jalanat tanks and troops had some how got ashore, the means of which remained unknown, as was their exact location. The threat was responded to with all due care. The care which was due however, was very limited. Soldiers and tanks mobilized and made a blockhouse around Jalanat forces. The civilians had long left the area through the tunnels underneath the bomb shelters, the tanks now had full authorization to rain fire and brimstone upon the enemy, as did the fleet of B1s which flew in from nearby airbases. Attack choppers also came in, wielding heavy Gatling guns with armor piercing rounds.

Against Barkaine:

The majority of Strators navy had been committed to fighting Macgruber and Cuborg, but a large force could still be mustered against the new threat. This included two of the Stratorian super dreadnoughts which now fired a heavy load of missiles at the enemy fleet. The howtizers which hadn't been taken out by the assault also fired upon the enemy. A detechment of B1s broke off the force attacking Jalanat and they too brought their death from above. One of them carried MOABs, which would split the enemy lines. They were also led by a vanguard of F15s and F16s

OOC: This is really an orgy, and I appear to be the only one getting... :eek:

Kraveska

08-03-2009, 06:43

Whatever. I guess It is kind of dumb that I would hit planes with fighter escort. Are you going to acknowledge that part, or ignore it?. Will you at least acknowledge my attacks on your ground targets?
And lastly, I don't know if it makes a difference, but my planes are stealth as well.

Strator

08-03-2009, 09:49

OOC: I acknowledge the plane attacks. I didn't mention damages due to your attacks though because you already had. As to you second question, it doesn't matter that your planes are stealth because they have already engaged so they are no longer out of sight and are within range of my jets.

Jalanat

08-03-2009, 11:15

OOC: how am i supposed to know what sides of you country hits the coastline if you don't have a map anyways. and also it is very simple in wars to send armor via boats to the beaches so shut up about that. and i don't care if you use F-18 superhornets because you never said so untill now.

Jalanese forces were still pinned down in the small town awaiting help, they could not relay coordinates from their suppressed position, therefore they asked for infantry reinforcements giving the Jalanese forces time to relay the coordinate targets.

North Defese

08-03-2009, 11:34

North Defese Announcment
Chanceller Palpentine has issued a statement, declaring that "If Jalanat does not stop its invasion into Strator, we will commence our own invasion into Jalanat.. We will launch a force of 20 B-52 Stratofortress's and 15 F-35 Lightning II's to lay waste to his invading forces."

Encrypted Message to Strator
Huge funding into the air force has given us overwhelming amounts of firepower, point us to where you want us and we will let loose the gates of hell.

Strator

08-03-2009, 12:17

OOC: I do have I map which I posted on the ultimatum thread, and I thought I posted here, but I apparently have not, sorry about that old bean link is here (http://s690.photobucket.com/albums/vv263/Stratorns/?action=view&current=Stratormap.jpg)

IC:

To North Defence:

Your aid is greatly appreciated. We are currently being pincered by the Cuborg and Macgruber forces, should you hit them in the flanks, it would turn the tables to our favor. If you could commit naval support this effect would be even greater, but it is understandable if you cannot. Your help shall not be forgotten once we have triumphed over the hypocrites and cowards who hide behind their numbers.

In all sincerity,
Augustus Stratorius Rex III
Lord Archon of the dominion

North Defese

08-03-2009, 12:20

To: Augustus Stratorius Rex III
From: Chanceller Palpentine

Our forces will be directed only to Jalanat invading forces, once we even the tide for your nation our forces must return home to fight the battle in the mainland.

Strator

08-03-2009, 12:23

To North Defence:

Any aid is better than none, once the Jalanat forces are out of the way, I can take care of the other three more directly, and commit greater force to their destruction.

Augustus Stratorius Rex III
Lord Archon of the dominion

Alanea

08-03-2009, 12:31

Message to Strator from Alanean Purple Corp.

The Alanean government will offer the sending of aid to your nation. Please send a representative to the Saint Arthur's City Purple Corp. residence if interested.

Thank you. Purple Corp. Press.

North Defese

08-03-2009, 12:46

To: Augustus Stratorius Rex III
From: Chanceller Palpentine

I have launched 3 Tupolev Tu-160's to lay waste to the landing forces. Each bomber had an of 40,000 kg (88,200 lb) ordnance.

They each will be filled with 35,000 kg's of conventional bombs, and will be traveling at Mock 1.5 untill they are near the landing forces, they will then proceed to carpet bomb the Jalanat troops.
They will be escorted by 4 F-22 Raptor's.

Macgruber

08-03-2009, 16:20

The fleet used its RIMs to great effect against the tomahawks, only a few hitting land. The AA guns were now under extreme stress in wake of the enemy air fleet. The Air bases had begun sending fighters one after another to try and wrest the air superiority.

The Howitzers kept their steady supression fire. It had slowed the enemy advance enough for the Stratorian fleet to pull up close to the opposition. Cannon fire was soon filling the air, its rumble a constant companion, it's a good thing Stratorian soldiers use earmuffs and personal transmitters. It would be a feat on its own for the Macgrubber forces to pass on orders in the cacophony. The Stratorian fleet kept up their fire as well, leading to the arrival of the Pride of the Stratorian fleet.

The Stratorian super Dreadnoughts now reached the front. There were eight of them here, out of the twelve which Strator had. Their slow speed was due to their immense weight, the bulk of them covered in thick titanium, making them nigh impregnable. The gargantuan floating fortresses which they were was an intimidating sight. They carried zounds of guns, anti-air, anti-ship, anti-sub. There was on the other hand, no such thing as an anti dreadnought gun. Maneuvering for these behemoths was difficult, but they didn't need to do much of it seeing as they could shoot from any side. They plowed through enemy ships, the serrated bow of the ships locked the ships under as they were pulled into the depths. A good placed missile could potentially sink the super Dreadnoughts, but it would have to be large and accurate. The enemy bombers may also do these beasts damage, but to do so was perilous due to the numerous AA emplacements.

Five C130Js had fallen of the original ten, but they had now reach the airspace just above the enemy fleet, they descended, gaining airspeed as they did, to destroy them now would be difficult, and the would most likely still do damage. The Tu-160s on the other hand were almost eliminated by the enemy air fleet, but the vengeance which came with this was a force to be reckoned with. 60 modified F22As along with a decent amount of MIG 33s, around 50 and ten or so F15s. The force was around equal to the enemy air fleet, but had a 1 minute before they reached dog fighting range. In this time the battle may become irretrievable. The last Tu-160 managed to drop three MOABs in the midst of the enemy, it would only be seconds before it would be spotted and taken down though.

The Remnants of the F-15 Squadron turned on the Kraveska planes, to eliminate them from the fight was a priority as it made it less likely they would receive reinforcements. five on five guns a-blazing, the Stratorian jets then locked on and fired a volley of missiles, they pursued and kept up fire in case the missiles missed.

There were some reports of soldiers seeing planes flying in between the clouds which did not show up on the radar. The concept of Macgruber stealth jets being used against them hadn't be considered. This threat had to be dealt with, and several fighters drew back from the fray, to enter in pursuit of an unseen enemy.

OOC:Thank god the ships are now 180m apart. and Cuborg laughed when i asked if we could do a joint effort.

The MOABS land in the middle of the fleet and in a instant 6 large transports carrying 7000 people vaporized. The F-35s instantly pick up where they came from and moved to engage the Bombers and escorts, Some F-35s and F-22s stayed and readied for a large scale dogfight with enemy fighters.
Anti-Air destroyers who have a much larger fighting range target enemy fighters with Sea Wolf missile,RIM-2 Terrier and RIM-162 ESSM missiles at the enemy approaching fighters. The Fleets defenses spot the The Stratorian super Dreadnoughts and turn there main guns on them. Volleys of large shells are fired towards the Large Dreadnoughts. The Fleet saw the coast knowing they would soon land and turn the tide. Even thought there where loads of heavy armor in the transport, anti air vehicles where also among them. The Bombers reached the coast and began dropping there ordinances on the defenses the escort readied for enemy air. The B-2s that did not drop anything yet moved towards the approaching enemy fleet and began carpet bombing it.

Jalanat

08-03-2009, 17:29

OOC: uhm, yeah *sarcasm* thanks for giving me the time i need to get my men out of the country *sarcasm*

Birkaine

08-03-2009, 18:57

he majority of Strators navy had been committed to fighting Macgruber and Cuborg, but a large force could still be mustered against the new threat. This included two of the Stratorian super dreadnoughts which now fired a heavy load of missiles at the enemy fleet. The howtizers which hadn't been taken out by the assault also fired upon the enemy. A detechment of B1s broke off the force attacking Jalanat and they too brought their death from above. One of them carried MOABs, which would split the enemy lines. They were also led by a vanguard of F15s and F16s
OOC: The B-1 cannot carry a MOAB.

<<This is the BkNV Ivan the Terrible, we copy your coordinates. Beggining missile fire now on the designated points>>
The two siege battleships started sending volleys of massive RT-105 ballistic FAE rockets to the coordinates given by the Jalanatian soldiers, raining down onto the Stratorian armored columns that were trying to block the Jalanatian advance. The Birkanian vessels detected the approaching air and naval forces, and the entire fleet steered towards the enemy. Two Ticonderogas stayed with the siege battleships to provide anti-missile cover. One of the AEGIS destroyers started to fire upon the howitzers, as the Moskva deployed a compliment of anti-submarine helicopters.

<<The enemy has chosen their doom! -The captain of the fleet kept shouting fanatically- while our missiles rain death from above, our duty will be to crush their naval forces!>>
The Stonager led the formation, and the two fleets neared missile range quickly. The carriers and landing vessels separated and retreated away from the stratorians.

<<We have detected multiple aerial contacts approaching. -Said the captain of the lead Emissary-class AEGIS battleship, who was in charge of AA operations- prepare the radars and missiles! We will swap them out of the skies!>>
The air defence and anti-missile network of the ships came online

<<Attention all allied forces -The female captain of a Kirov cruiser said- Our Belkalandian comrades have accepted our offer to join the battle for this noble cause, and have sent ships to help us in the destruction of our enemmies! In just a few moments our brothers will join us, and we will form a line of iron so imposing that all Stratorian resistance will be crushed beneath its might! URA!>>

The battle cry resonated troughout the fleet, and another captain took the microphone, this time from a LaFayette-class frigate.

<<BkNV Irreprochable to all allied forces currently fighting in the Stratorian mainland: We have a new prioritary objective. The Belkalandian luftwaffe will need airbases to land on, so it's up to you to capture one. We will provide as much cover as we can>>

-1x Omen-class ballistic missile dreadnought "Stonager"
-1x Moskva-class helicopter carrier "Ferrograd"
-2x Emissary-class AEGIS Battleships "Harbinger" & "High Hammers"
-1x Modernized Bismarck-class missile battleship "Ivan the Terrible"
-4x Slava-class cruiser
-3x Ticonderoga-class AEGIS destroyer
-8x Kirov-class cruiser
-9x LaFayette-class frigate
-10x Winston-class cruiser
-5x Sovremenny-class destroyer

-2x Cardinal Vaccarella-class siege battleship
-2x Modernized Yamato-class battleship
-4x Ticonderoga-class AEGIS destroyer
-1x LaFayette-class frigate
-5x Sovremenny-class destroyer

-7x San Giorgio-class Amphibious Assault ships
-1x Ticonderoga-class AEGIS destroyer
-7x Fort Victoria-class AOE

-1x Triumvirate-class supercarrier "Hyperion"
-3x End All-class battleship
-4x Modernized King George IV battleship

-1x Farbanti-class stealth carrier
-2x Ford-class supercarrier
-2x Typhoon-class SSBN
-12x Winston-Class Cruiser
-4x Zumwalt-class DDG
-5x Virginia-class SSN
-20x F100 Alvaro de Bazán-Class FFG
-support ships

Cuborg

08-03-2009, 19:05

The landing craft were boxed in from all sides. Strator cannons were ripping the craft apart. The shore was going to be heavily defended. If they stopped moving, they'd die. If they kept moving, they'd die. The commander made the final decision to fly the white flag and pray for mercy.

General Al-Asad was just informed of his failed assault of the south. His men were surrendering, and they hadn't even gotten to shore yet. Maybe it wasn't too late to invade Strator... "Get me the Macgruber Air Force. We're getting into that country (Strator) if I have to send everything we got."

Macgruber's attack was doing infinitely better than the Cuborg assault. The general immediately sent 150 Su-30 dual role fighters and 250 Mi-35 'Hind' attack helicopters to the main point of attack.

Jalanat

08-03-2009, 19:08

OOC: ITS JALANESE why does everybody say Jalanatian. anyways my soldiers landed at the east coasline btw why me first, like i'm weak.

the Jalanese forces were not planning on retreating, they sent in even more soldiers. the 2nd 3rd anf 4th royal division were sent in and linked up with the soldiers in the town. the 3rd armored division also landed together with the soldiers. they took the small town due to the enemy armor being destroyed by the naval units helping us. and the soldiers went over to the farmlands.
the USS Shinsun and its fleet move up to the coastline. (thats a total of 13 ships) they were holding outside the killzone but would enter it whenever they are called for artillery barrage. shooting down the ships would be responded to by huge military actions as the USS Shinsun is still outside the killzone and hasn't acted in combat.

Nachmere

08-03-2009, 19:23

To Cuborg, Macgruber

The Nachmere Air Force has a Force of Fighter-Bombers and Interceptors that we can send to aid you. The insults by Strator to the pride of our nation are un-forgivable. Please let us know where we can land these aircraft for refuling and use as an operations base.

The force includes:
3 Squadrons of Mirage V (75 alltogather)
3 Squadrons of A-4 Skyhawks (75 alltogather)
1 Squadron of KC-135 Air-Refuel Aircraft (15 alltogather)

Cuborg

08-03-2009, 19:33

Birkaine

08-03-2009, 19:36

OOC: Edited the order of battle and a new country is joining us. See post above.
@Jalananantianalasia: Sry :P

Nachmere

08-03-2009, 19:40

To: Cuborg

While the A-4s can easily operate off an aircraft carrier, the Mirage V and KC-135 cant. Is there any land based alternative for those squadrons?

Belkaland

08-03-2009, 20:23

<<Farbanti-Class Carrier BNV Gallifre von Waldreich>><<This is the Bekalandian 3rd Fleet Flagship Waldreich to the Birkainian Flagship Stonager, we wish to join you in glorious battle. We're launching fighters to intercept the those bombers.>>

The Waldreich & its 2 fellow Belkalandian carriers starts launching Wyvern & Tomcat fighters to intercept the bombers and provide support for the allies.

ORBAT:
Navy:
-1x Farbanti-class stealth carrier
--25x X-02 Wyvern
--15x F-14D Super Tomcats

-2x Ford-class supercarrier
--58x X-02 Wyvern
--45x F-14D Super Tomcats
--24x F/A-18E Super Hornets

-2x Typhoon-class SSBN
-12x Winston-Class AEGIS Cruiser
-4x Zumwalt-class DDG
-5x Virginia-class SSN
-20x F100 Alvaro de Bazán-Class FFG
-support ships

Cuborg

08-03-2009, 22:29

To: Cuborg

While the A-4s can easily operate off an aircraft carrier, the Mirage V and KC-135 cant. Is there any land based alternative for those squadrons?

Send those squadrons to any Cuborg or Macgruber airbase.

North Defese

08-03-2009, 22:35

The B-52's slid through the astmosphere, its 15 F-35's surrounding them, radar ever vigilant for enemy forces.
The Strator coastline came up on radar, and the auto-pilot was kicked off while the bomb-bay doors were open.

In 10 minutes the entire coastline would be ablaze, and the Jalanat forces wiped out.
It was all going better then expected, and Palpentine was sure once the war was over, Strator would give him discounts on slaves, which would allow him to purchase more and make mining ore even cheaper.

Nachmere

08-03-2009, 22:38

Mirage V, somwhere near Cuborg airspace

"Cuborg Air-Control this is Eagle Leader. We are friendlies with premission to land"
"Roger that Eagle, I will give you co-ordinates for a Cuborg AFB in one minute"

15 minutes later the 175 aircraft were circling the Cuborg AFB and landing one by one.
Eagle leader, Lt. Col Jake Foxfield jumped out of his Mirage and looked for someone incharge.

ooc: i landed all hte aircraft at your AFB so i can use them in larger more orgenized groups.

Cuborg

08-03-2009, 22:46

Nachmere, the air assault is practically underway. Send your aircraft out at your nearest convenience.

OOC: I'm just waiting for Strator to get back to me with my surrendering landing party.

Nachmere

08-03-2009, 23:08

Air strip in Cuborg

There was no time to loose, as a Cuborg officer told LTC Foxfield and the other squadron leaders. The Cuborg ground crews rushed to refule the aircraft(as Nachmere Ground Crews were till on the way). The pilots had to help them because they were not use to such ancient aircraft. It took a while but two squadrons, one of A-4s and one of Mirage Vs were ready and took off to join the air battle.

ooc: cuborg you can use those aircraft for me during the fight, because its late here and i have to work tommarow. Ill be back in 12 houres... Try not to get all my pilots killed because thats about half of my existing air force:) The Mirage V is old but it can be deadly in close range fighting. The A-4s, well, i guess you know about them. They mostly do ground attack and tactical air support. My Mirages are updated with digital cockpits, FLIR and late 20th century EW systems(think of the ROSE upgrade). The A4s are up to A-4K standart.

Kraveska

09-03-2009, 02:05

OOC: I acknowledge the plane attacks.

Does that include your destroyed aircraft?

As to you second question, it doesn't matter that your planes are stealth because they have already engaged so they are no longer out of sight and are within range of my jets

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, I just asked anyways.

Belkaland

09-03-2009, 02:27

OOC: Birkaine, you can control my forces, this war is going too slow for my tastes.

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 02:32

<<Your efforts will be greatly appreciated, comrades! Glory to the first man to die!>> The captain said, with the course of his ships locked towards the Stratorian fleet.

A group of 10 F-14Ds and 15 Super Hornets took off hurriedly from the Belkalandian carrier. With the help from the radars of the Birkanian fleet, they started to head onto the North Defesian bomber formation, readying their missiles.

<<Blau 1 to all planes. We are going to intercept a formation of bombers en route to the Jalanese forces in the mainland. Don't let those bombers reach our allies, no matter the cost>>

North Defese

09-03-2009, 02:42

ooc: You cant tell me what I detected, and my radar is much more advanced then yours, my fighters would have detected you long before you were in missile range.
And you have not given any declaration of war, my forces only engaging the Jaldor invading force.

You know youve just commited a war crime right?

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 02:53

Ooc: Well, you attacked the enemy of my enemy. That doesn't need much explanation doesn't it? And if you haven't noticed, I am part of the invading force.

As for the radars, I don't know why yours should be better than mine. Especially since you're using aircraft-mounted radars while I am using ship-mounted broadband (and datalinked) systems plus the ones on the F-14s, known to be one of the best fighter-mounted radars ever made. Plus the radar of the F-35 is not such godly thing, especially as you have not deployed AWACS support to broaden the range.

As for your planes detecting mine, then ok. I'll edit

North Defese

09-03-2009, 03:09

ooc: North Defesian radar is very advanced, as is our airforce really. We currently have 50,000 aircraft mobilizing in the mainland. 25,000 of those are fighters :p

IC:

The F-35's immediatly went into evasive manuvers, while deploying counter-measers, only 1 one shot down, the bombers fared worse, 1 bombers was shot down, and another which was so damaged it had to retreat.

The F-25's counter attacked, locking onto the enemy with the LoS2 targeting system, which rendered counter-measures useless.
They each fired 2 AIM-120 AMRAAM's, which screamed across the open sky, closing in on the F-14's.

Macgruber

09-03-2009, 03:15

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 03:15

The two Tomcats exploded in midair, with their pilots barely managing to eject
<<Blau 2 and 7 are down! Blau formation, ignore the escorts and focus on those bombers!>> The leader of the F-14 formation said as they turned around to do another sweep <<Tiphon formation, cut them down!>> The F/A-18s engaged the escorting fighters.

<<The Belkalandians lost two, sir. Two enemy kills confirmed>> The radar operator of one of the AEGIS battleships said. <<Our carrier will be launching their aircraft soonly, but air supremacy is not secured>>

<<We will never secure air supremacy in these conditions. Order the Belkalandian to destroy those bombers at all costs, I don't care if the whole wing is lost.>>
The captain replied in an arrogant tone.

North Defese

09-03-2009, 03:17

ooc: He fired first, I cant retaliate, and have to let him slaughter my planes?

North Defese

09-03-2009, 03:19

The F-35's didnt let the small victory go to their heads, they immediately struck again, launching one AIM-9 Sidewinder at the Tomcats, immediatly after launching they prepared for a counterstrike.

Macgruber

09-03-2009, 03:21

OOC:You moved into the country to slaughter men on my side. That is a act of war.

One Destroyer in the fleet just received orders to target and destory the north defese fighters in the area. 6 Akash missiles where launched towards the enemy crafts.
Message to North Defese: Retreat Now and the survivors will live

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 03:21

The Tomcats quickly let off a trail of flares and chaff to distract the AIM-9s, and concentrated on the bombers, firing a volley of AIM-120D Phoenix missiles at them. The F/A-18s fired their own sidewinders at the F-35s.

North Defese

09-03-2009, 03:25

The bombers quickly fired off counter-measers, and amazingly only one bomber was damaged.

The F-35's had been hurt bad, and returned the punch two-fold. Firing off 3 AIM-120 AMRAAM's and firing the foward cannons for 2 seconds, before quickly releasing their fingurs in order to conserve ammo.

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 03:28

<<One target neutralized!>> One of the F-14s said. Instead of passing trough the formation like the rest of the airmen, the pilot of that fighter lined up with another bomber and let off a burst from his gun. Two Super Hornets were destroyed.
<<Tiphon 3 here, we're getting torn up! We need backup! All fighters, spread out in groups of two, try to single them out!>>
The Super Hornets started to maneuver to split up the enemy formation and single them out for a 2 vs.1 close combat.

North Defese

09-03-2009, 03:35

The F-35's didnt fall for the bait, they got into formation, and tailed a group that had split off, they fired their remainder AMRAAM missiles, then proceeded to fire a burst from their guns.

Meanwhile
A F-35 managed to get right behind the hornet while it was firing at the bomber, while it was distracted, he launched his AMRAAM missile and unleashed a burst of hot lead.

The bomber unfortunatly was hit on the right wing, and it began smoking. It wasnt out of action yet, but it was crippled.
The remaining bombers attempted to increase speed to Mach 1, and deliver their payload. They wouldent make it back alive, so they might as well complete the mission.
For the Chanceller.

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 03:37

OOC: I assume that by mock you mean mach. And a B-51 can't even reach mach 1.

<<Ok, change of plans people!>> The flight lead said as his wingman turned into a fireball <<get back in the formation and leave those fighters! We're taking down the bombers too!>> He said, and the fighters picked up a bomber each, then fired off their AAMRAAMs

<<Another aircraft neutralized, five losses so far>> The radar operator said.

North Defese

09-03-2009, 03:42

2 F-35's targeted what they belived to be the leader of the group, and opened fire with an AIM-9 Sidewinder's, and a short burst of lead.

The remaining F-35's fell back to the bombers to lick their wounds, and prepare for another assault.

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 03:46

The Super Hornet let off flares and separated from the main group, who had fired their missiles at the bombers and were speeding up for a strafing run.

North Defese

09-03-2009, 03:58

ooc: Please respond to me shooting at your flight leader.
And when are you going to run out of missiles?
And how many did you even fire?
How many do you HAVE?

IC:
The bombers deployed their last countermeasures, evading the missiles.
The F-35's managed to get behind the enemy fighters and lock on while they engaged the bombers, they let loose with their last AMRAAM missile along with their last 2 Stingers. They then let loose a 7 second volley from their guns, severly depleting their ammo supply.

ooc: This will at least severely damage your fighting force, please dont evade every single bullet flying at you, your pilots arent Keon Reece.

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 04:07

OOC:
-A tomcat can carry 6 missiles each, and super hornets can cary 4 each. 10 tomcats and 15 superhornets. Total is 120 missiles.
-The initial formation was 25 aircraft, of which 2 Tomcats and 6 Hornets have been shot down, so that leaves 17 aircraft; 8 tomcats and 9 F-18s
-I just said what happened to the flight lead. He popped flares and broke formation.
-Everytime you fire my planes die.

Four more super hornets were shot down, and the rest scattered around

<<This is pathetic!>> The captain of the aegis battleship said
<<We're on missile range!>> The radar operator said. The captain gave the order for the ship to engage the enemy bombers, and 4 S-300 missiles were launched from the ship.

Nachmere

09-03-2009, 04:17

ooc: no one used my planes? They were free to use...:)

ic:

Comming into the fight the 25 Mirage V were divided to fours. LTC Foxfield was leading a 5 planne formation.
"Eagle formation this is leader, the enemy is buisy fighting off our friends. Eagle 1,2,3 go for the fighters. Eagle 4,5,6 go for the bombers."

North Defese

09-03-2009, 04:21

The bombers, when seeing the missile warning blop up on the radar, decided to turn tail and run.
Which is what they did.
The missiles from the ship dropped 2 bombers, while the others banked hard and gained altitude as fast as they could.

The remaining fighter jets now had to depend totally on their cannons, and broke formation to engage the fighters individually, unleashing hot lead on the F-18s.

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 04:25

<<The missiles are effective! Two kills confirmed, the rest are running away!>> The radar operator said to the captain
<<Fire more! Show no mercy!>> He replied. Two more S-300PMUs were launched upon the bombers.

<<This is Blau 2 to all Nachmerian aircraft, the bombers are retreating and the fighters are out of ammunition. The Blau and Tiphon formations will retreat. Clean up this mess>>
The superhornets and super tomcats ignited their afterburners to get out of gun range, although one of them was hit and crippled. Now the task had been relegated to the navy, which now was fully assembling the birkanian and belkalandian reinforcements.

North Defese

09-03-2009, 04:31

The remaining bombers managed to call in for reinforcments, now, at the ND shore, 50 F-35 Lightning II's, and 35 F-15 Eagle's launched from the airfield, got into formation, and streaked across the sky at moch 1.
They would arrive in 15 minutes.

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 04:35

<<This is the BkNV Harbinger to all Jalanese ground forces. The bombers have been taken care of, you are free to continue with your operations>>

The leader of the birkanian fleet grabbed the microphone again
<<All ships, adopt defensive formation for anti-aircraft and anti-missile duties. Nachmerian forces, bring as much air support as you can!>>
The siege battleships were currently reloading their large missiles, so the stratorian forces started to advance once more.

North Defese

09-03-2009, 04:41

Kraveska

09-03-2009, 04:51

The Kraveskan jets swerved and released flares to escape the Stratorian missiles, but two of them weren't lucky. Those two were hit, and they spiraled to the ground and exploded. The remaining three flew in low over the Macgruber fleet, hoping that the ships would use anti-aircraft guns on their pursuers.

Also,Macgruber, the first batch of Kraveskan troops is nearly here, so do you want me to land them on the beach, or what?

North Defese

09-03-2009, 16:54

ooc: Ummm im launvhing the missiles at Birkaine not you...

North Defese

09-03-2009, 17:21

ooc: wait wait wait, how did your jets suddenly appear out of nowere, did they teleport or what?
The dogfight is with Birkain....wth??

Nachmere

09-03-2009, 17:33

ooc:
Today, 0317:
Comming into the fight the 25 Mirage V were divided to fours. LTC Foxfield was leading a 5 planne formation.
"Eagle formation this is leader, the enemy is buisy fighting off our friends. Eagle 1,2,3 go for the fighters. Eagle 4,5,6 go for the bombers."
today, 0325:
<<This is Blau 2 to all Nachmerian aircraft, the bombers are retreating and the fighters are out of ammunition. The Blau and Tiphon formations will retreat. Clean up this mess>>

You want more warning that i am about to engage than that? I mean if you still think its unfair i will delete it but i think it was clear...
And where the hell is strator why am i fighting ND?:)

Jalanat

09-03-2009, 19:20

Jalanese forces secured the small town. (or rather tiny village) the armor that landed used bottleneck formations at the routes going into the town. the other soldiers were stationed in the buildings and some Machine gun nests were quickly set up. the beachhead was now a key landing site to all Jalanese forces. the 17th armored division lands on the beachheads near the town and move to an apple orchard closeby.

Nachmere

09-03-2009, 19:33

ooc: would you guys wait for strator before you invade by land, not really fair...

Jalanat

09-03-2009, 19:37

OOC: dude i DID wait, he carpet bombed my position but i was helped by the navy of some guys

Nachmere

09-03-2009, 19:52

ooc: ok.

North Defese

09-03-2009, 21:26

ooc: Fine, I launch the missiles at you again.

Nachmere

09-03-2009, 21:51

ooc:oh god... this is getting absurd. FINE. Lets start over.

All 25 Mirage Vs immidietly launched the Countermeasures and started evasive manouvers. This was not much help due to the sheer volume of missile fire. 11 Mirages were hit by the missiles. 2 were damaged and turned to flee. 3 pilots ejected from their aircraft and their white paracutes opened. The 6 other pilots were not that lucky. They died in their cockpits.

"Eagle formation this is Eagle Leader. Fire missiles and close up on them for guns! Good hunting!"
The Mirages Launched 2 missiles each at the F15s and opened their after burners to reach gun range.

"Eagle leader this is Grinder leader, hand on were comming to help"
2 minutes flight away from the fight the second squadron of Mirages was fast approaching.

Birkaine

09-03-2009, 22:09

The aircraft detected the small group of enemy fighters, they were flying away from them to, what they guessed, re-arm and repair.
Taking advantage of the element of suprise, all 35 F-15 launched 3 sidewinders at the enemy aircraft, which had a torrent of 105 missiles screaming through the air.
They then broke formation, and scattered. Once the enemy planes were out of action, they were to target the nearby naval force.

The swarm of missiles burned trough the formation, obliterating most fighters. Few survived, 5 F-14s and an F-18, which were trailing smoke.

<<Onwards, comrades! They have nothing left for us to fear!>>
The flagship steered towards the fallen pilots of the belkalandian formation to rescue them and continue operations, and so did the rest of the fleet. In the Birkanian supercarrier Hyperion, a few UCAVs were preparing for launch. Birkanian radars kept scanning for any sign of anti-ship missiles, and one of the Kirov opened fire upon the large formation of North Defesian JSFs, launching two S-400s long-range SAMs. The rest of the fleet readied their own surface-to-air missiles.

<<This is the Vaccarella-class BkNV Upor to Jalanese forces in the mainland. We have reloaded our rockets and we'll be waiting your call for support fire.>>

Kraveska

09-03-2009, 22:39

North Defese

10-03-2009, 00:00

3 F-25's were shot out of the sky, along with 1 F-15.
The 47 F-25's got into position while the Auto Targeting System distrubted a target to each plane, then when they all had a lock on, they let loose with a volley of 2 AMMRAMs each.

Birkaine

10-03-2009, 01:36

The Kraveskan transport ships had finally arrived, and moved up to the beach. The Macgruber ships that had been sent to retrieve the Kraveskan soldiers opened fire at the beach with their cannons while soldiers on the ship fired their weapons, creating a wall of bullets that flew at the enemy. The three remaining Kraveskan fighters pulled up, and went back into the clouds. Their pursuers were occupied with the anti aircraft fire from the allied fleet.
OOC: There's no way an infantry weapon can have the same range as a naval gun

IC:
The Birkanian ships got to the crash sites, and managed to rescue about a dozen Belkalandian pilots, while heading towards the next crash site. The charred wingtip of one of the North Defesian B-52s was brought on-deck by the crew of the Harbinger, and exposed as a war trophy in the superstructure. The Kirov, known as the BkNV Marche au Supplice launched two more SAMs at the Defesian fighters.
<<This will be our only warning!>> The captain of the Marche au Supplice said in a non-encrypted radio transmission that reached the North Defesian fighters <<In the name of the glorious Birkanian Navy we order The North Defesian armed forces to retreat from this war, or face our crushing might!>> Her tone was of zealous patriotism.

The Kirov-class cruiser didn't wait for an answer, and continued launching a third SAM.

Kraveska

10-03-2009, 01:59

OOC: There's no way an infantry weapon can have the same range as a naval gun

Where in my post did I say that?

The ship is very close to shore, and some of the infantry weapons have enough range to reach the enemy. How does me saying that my soldiers fired their weapons and the ship fired its weapons imply in any way that I think they have the same range?

Birkaine

10-03-2009, 02:03

OOC: Well, it must be firing at point blank (in a naval context) then if infantry weapons work aganist the shore... nice way of commiting suicide, since even infantry ATGMs and snipers are now able to fire at that ship, which is probably beached...

Kraveska

10-03-2009, 03:49

T'isnt beached. My people are firing long range weapons at the shore, while the ship they're on is pummeling the shore with cannons. Besides that, there are a bunch of other ships and airplanes AND soldiers going around shooting stuff, so the enemy forces, which are probably nearly destroyed by now, probably aren't going to notice two ships. I have more than that, but they are staying back until the battle is over, because they aren't armed.

Nachmere

10-03-2009, 09:02

ooc: did you fire Amraams at my planes?

Kraveska

10-03-2009, 13:24

I'm pulling back all my ships now, including those two next to the shore. I'm going to wait until the shore has been taken, so I can move my troops inland.

Strator

10-03-2009, 14:30

Jalanese forces secured the small town. (or rather tiny village)

OOC: TINY VILLAGE!?!? there ain't no tiny villages in Strator!

To everyone who is wondering where the hell I was: sorry that I couldn't post for a while, but I had a lot of things to do. I am now wondering what the hell I should RP as I no longer know whats going on.

Enough time has passed for my reinforcements from central and northern Strator to have arrived I believe, so now this is about to get a little bit more confusing.

IC:

Against Macgruber:

A much larger group of aircraft had now arrived at the fronts from the north, amongst this were close to a hundred raptors, thirty F35s and seventy F16s. The previous gap in Stratorian air support was now more than filled. This force also had a large number of B1 lancers carrying numerous quickstrike Mk-82 bombs. The surviving aircraft from the initial attacks withdrew to refuel and change pilots, losses amongst them had been heavy, but now they would be repaid. The fresh fighters engaged any enemy aircraft in sight, while the bombers set about bringing explosive hail upon the Macgruber fleet.

Whilst the majority of the enemy fleet pointed their guns towards the Stratorian super dreadnoughts, the naval reinforcements flowed in around them. The Stratorian vessels threw fire at the enemy from every direction now, the line of retreat was soon to be blocked off and the morale of the enemy would surely drop. five of the Stratorian super dreadnoughts were now sunk. Their size was impractical and made them a large target, but no doubt they had brought down many with them. The unconventional serrated bow wreaked havoc among enemy formations, they tore and ripped through ships at full ramming speed. The intimidating form of them alone was worth their cost to the Strator treasuries.

Tanks had now line the whole coast, their guns ready for any who would wish to step foot on Stratorian soil uninvited. Machine guns and Gatling cannons were set up behind the front lines, they spelled the death of any infantry who challenged them.

Against Cuborg:

A message was sent to all Cuborgian forces nearby Strator.

"Your landing craft may retreat unharmed, but not before any weaponry contained on them is thrown into the sea. All cannon bearing craft must retreat first, and only after they are outside of Stratorian waters, and we have accepted this as so, may the transport vessel proceed. Any troops on the transports must remain so. If any of these terms are broken, Stratorian forces will return to full fire upon the transports"

OOC: is it that you are entirely out of the fight, or are your transports just requesting a safe retreat?

I shall refrain from responding to Jalanat as I have no idea what the hell is happening on that front

Macgruber

10-03-2009, 14:48

The MOABS land in the middle of the fleet and in a instant 6 large transports carrying 7000 people vaporized. The F-35s instantly pick up where they came from and moved to engage the Bombers and escorts, Some F-35s and F-22s stayed and readied for a large scale dogfight with enemy fighters.
Anti-Air destroyers who have a much larger fighting range target enemy fighters with Sea Wolf missile,RIM-2 Terrier and RIM-162 ESSM missiles at the enemy approaching fighters. The Fleets defenses spot the The Stratorian super Dreadnoughts and turn there main guns on them. Volleys of large shells are fired towards the Large Dreadnoughts. The Fleet saw the coast knowing they would soon land and turn the tide. Even thought there where loads of heavy armor in the transport, anti air vehicles where also among them. The Bombers reached the coast and began dropping there ordinances on the defenses the escort readied for enemy air. The B-2s that did not drop anything yet moved towards the approaching enemy fleet and began carpet bombing it.

OOC: I should have been more clear. First i thought the dreadnoughts where alone anyway i didn't mean to say that they all targeted the Dreadnoughts and allowed the rest to encircle us. Remember the carpet bombing to and the dozens of bombers attacking the coast and engaging air targets

The Air guarded bombers moved out, 60 A-10s, 45 B-52s and 3 B-2s stealth bombers (Only they weren't showing on radar.) But there guard was the most frighten, 115 F-35s and 20 F-22s flow with the group and readied to engage all threats to the Bombers

Strator

10-03-2009, 14:55

OOC: oh, okay, dammit, now I've killed too many of my super dreadnoughts... they have serrated edges! that's always cool! I knew you were still firing at my air force, and using your bombers though. I haven't really gone into detail on the damage to my coastline or anything, but I do recognize that it is extensive.

Macgruber

10-03-2009, 15:07

OOC: There is no denying the dreadnoughts with serrated edges arn't cool, because they are very cool.

Most of the Destroyers target the incoming bombers with there AA weapons, The Ships us being surrounded to thin out the enemy ships so there easier to destroy. the rows of guns around the fleet open fire at the long line of attacking ships. The transports are almost ready to break off from there escorts, but now the coast is very heavily guarded and will require a clear landing zone. 3 B-52s spin around and move over the coast and drop there carpet bombs over a large stretch of land along the coast where the transports will land. The aircraft over the fleet suffered minor casualties and began to engage bombers over Fighters. Some Fighters did engage the attacking raptors but bombers where high priority for now.

Cuborg

10-03-2009, 21:48

OOC: The landing party is begging for mercy, but our nation remains hostile. Although, they will remember your mercy.

The men, without hesitation, tossed their weapons into the sea. The Kirill began to move backwards, back into international waters.

General Al-Asad sat with his advisers. "SHIT! This attack was a disaster! What the hell are we going to do now?" Adviser Lee spoke up. "We still have units in the Western attack. With the Macgruber air force, as I recall." "Well, you better recall real quick before we lose this war because you CAN'T RECALL where we are!" Al-Asad shouted.

Nachmere

10-03-2009, 22:30

ooc: cuborg still have 25 Mirages and 75 A-4s in an airbase at your country. we can use them to support another landing...

Macgruber

10-03-2009, 22:38

Nachmere

10-03-2009, 22:43

To: Macgruber

75 A-4s and 25 Mirage Vs are on their way. ETA around 35 minutes. Their on the joint air-support channel and their call sign is "Republic". Ask of them what you need.

NAF Command.

Kraveska

10-03-2009, 22:51

To- Macgruber

Well, is the coast secured? Because if it is, my ships are farther away from the coast, waiting for the shore to be secured. When and if it is, I can start moving my soldiers in.

Nachmere

10-03-2009, 22:54

ooc: although i did warn you that Startor will spank our asses if we dont wait for the rest of the coalition...

Birkaine

10-03-2009, 23:04

TO All Anti Slave Nations:
Its everything or nothing now. I'm not paving a road with billion dollar ships and countless men if i'm not even getting much support. I need lots of air,naval now and soon lots of ground support.

With the North Defesian aerial threat seemingly taken care of, the Birkanian vessels captured the fallen B-52s pilots and took them as prisoniers of war.

<<The enemy on our area has been taken care of! We are currently en route to your position. They will not stand a chance!>>
The captain of the Stonager said over the radio to the Macgruberian allies. Parts of North Defesian fallen aircraft now adorned several Emissaries and Kirovs.
<<Jalenese forces, this is the BkNV Cardinal Vaccarella. We are required on another are of the front. You're on your own now>>
The siege battleships and their escorts started slowly heading towards the main Birkanian force, which in turn was heading at full speed to fight alongside Macgruber and provide heavy support for any other landing attempt.

North Defese

10-03-2009, 23:48

ooc: i still have the 100ish jets in the air, REPLY TO THEM LAUNCHING OVER 100 MISSILES AT YOUR SQUADREN!!!!

Birkaine

11-03-2009, 00:05

ooc: i still have the 100ish jets in the air, REPLY TO THEM LAUNCHING OVER 100 MISSILES AT YOUR SQUADREN!!!!
OOC: Would you mind paying attention to my posts? Missiles hit the formation and only 5 of my planes survived, and the pilots had to eject anyways. My fleet rescued the pilots.

The swarm of missiles burned trough the formation, obliterating most fighters. Few survived, 5 F-14s and an F-18, which were trailing smoke.

The Birkanian ships got to the crash sites, and managed to rescue about a dozen Belkalandian pilots, while heading towards the next crash site. The charred wingtip of one of the North Defesian B-52s was brought on-deck by the crew of the Harbinger, and exposed as a war trophy in the superstructure. The Kirov, known as the BkNV Marche au Supplice launched two more SAMs at the Defesian fighters.

Cuborg

11-03-2009, 01:38

The Cuborg airforce takes off from Forts Dale, Greggory, and Evans. The Su-30 and Hinds were en route to the western front, to support the Macgruber assault.

Lynion

11-03-2009, 01:53

TO All Anti Slave Nations:
Its everything or nothing now. I'm not paving a road with billion dollar ships and countless men if i'm not even getting much support. I need lots of air,naval now and soon lots of ground support.

ENCRYPTION: Heavy
TO: Macgruber Government
FROM: Vamperial Kingdom of Lynion, High King Vamp
RE: Support

Support and reinforcements are on there way. It has being taking some time since we'll be transporting a force to be reckon with. However, there has being trouble with communications between myself and other coalition members but if we're forced to, we'll dispatch our own forces.

OOC: To be honest, I don't know what's happening with the other Coalition Forces.

Kraveska

11-03-2009, 03:09

Also, my 50 helicopters are here, I'm just waiting for a less dangerous area to use them.

North Defese

11-03-2009, 03:38

The fighters once against got into formation, and fired off a 3 second volley from the guns, unleashing a wall of hot metal at the enemy.

Birkaine

11-03-2009, 03:43

The remaining pilots ejected before they could be hit, and the fleet fired another round of 5 S-300PMUs to the enemy formation.

North Defese

11-03-2009, 03:51

The jets scattered, launching countermeasures, and only 3 were hit.
With the enemy planes now in ruins, they turned their attention to the ships, 23 fighters managing to launch 2 stingers at the leading ships, 46 missiles screamed through the air while the other planes tried to get into position to continue the attack.

ooc: Describe your naval force please? So I know what to attack and not just use all my missiles on cruisers and destroyers if you have like 12 carriers.

Birkaine

11-03-2009, 04:05

Quoted from page 4:
-1x Omen-class ballistic missile dreadnought "Stonager"
-1x Moskva-class helicopter carrier "Ferrograd"
-2x Emissary-class AEGIS Battleships "Harbinger" & "High Hammers"
-1x Modernized Bismarck-class missile battleship "Ivan the Terrible"
-4x Slava-class cruiser
-3x Ticonderoga-class AEGIS destroyer
-8x Kirov-class cruiser
-9x LaFayette-class frigate
-10x Winston-class cruiser
-5x Sovremenny-class destroyer

-2x Cardinal Vaccarella-class siege battleship
-2x Modernized Yamato-class battleship
-4x Ticonderoga-class AEGIS destroyer
-1x LaFayette-class frigate
-5x Sovremenny-class destroyer

-1x Triumvirate-class supercarrier "Hyperion"
-3x End All-class battleship
-4x Modernized King George IV battleship

-1x Farbanti-class stealth carrier
-2x Ford-class supercarrier
-2x Typhoon-class SSBN
-12x Winston-Class Cruiser
-4x Zumwalt-class DDG
-5x Virginia-class SSN
-20x F100 Alvaro de Bazán-Class FFG
-support ships

OOC: Also, Stingers cannot track ships, nor they can be carried in fighter aircraft. I'll ignore that one then.

North Defese

11-03-2009, 04:13

ooc: Scuse me? XCUSE ME?
Wait, your right.

IC:
With the enemy air threat eliminated, the fighters gained alititude, and turned around to head back home. Revenge was given, their job was done. They raised speed to moch-1, and tore through the astmosphere.

Birkaine

11-03-2009, 04:22

<<Our enemmies' will has been shattered, comrades!>>
The Birkanians sounded triumphant. Now with the Defesian aircrafts gone, there was nothing between the sizeable fleet and Stratorian forces. A few Sea Darts took off from the Emissaries, and started doing patrols around the ships along with E-2s launched from the Hyperion.

<<This is the captain Haguro Ishimura, of the BkNV Harbinger to Kraveskian forces. The enemy is fleeing, you are free to begin operations>>

North Defese

11-03-2009, 04:23

ooc: Your men are so arrogant Birkaine, are they French?
Their entire air thing was just wiped out by a good 70+ planes, they LOST, now they are saying we are shattered.
Lawl, they are so French.

Birkaine

11-03-2009, 04:26

OOC: The captain of the Stonager is a zealous patriot. 25 aircraft wiped out by 75 isn't impressive, your planes ran away from my AA fire and the planes I controlled were Belkalandian in the first place. Birkanian naval forces haven't taken one loss yet, apart from a group of sailors onboard a Yamato which was hit by several Stratorian howitzer rounds.

North Defese

11-03-2009, 04:28

Oh, in that case give me the number of jets you have, so I can wipe them out too :p

Birkaine

11-03-2009, 04:33

Total aircraft of all types:
4 supercarriers with 80 each = 320 aircraft. (Both Birkanian and Belkalandian)
Emissaries carry 8 Sea Darts and 8 X-46s, and there's two of those ships.
The Moskva carries 14 ASW helicopters.

Before you start eliminating them, I only have 5 Sea Darts and 1 E-2 currently in the air and within the area of my own AA defences. The rest is still inside the carriers.

North Defese

11-03-2009, 04:35

Cool, I can attack them while they sit on the carriers, destroying the ones on the runway, grounding the rest. Just to taunt your troops.
Give me a minute will I inspect the jets Specs, to see if I can launch anything at the ones on the ground.

Birkaine

11-03-2009, 04:37

I'd like to see you even trying to get past the AA network. There's like 8 Aegises in there and 2 specialized anti-aircraft battleships. The supercarriers are in the middle of all that.

North Defese

11-03-2009, 04:40

ooc: KAMAKAZI!
50,000 fighter/bombers, i think I can handle the loss of 75.
Since more are being farted out of factories as we speak.

Birkaine

11-03-2009, 04:45

OOC: I can promise you thousands of losses. Each AEGIS radar can track an engage up to 150 aircrafts at once.

Then again, it will be climatic.

For now, I gotta go.

Kraveska

11-03-2009, 04:48

Alright, I'll start moving my guys in as soon as the North Defese air forces have been neutralized.

North Defese

11-03-2009, 04:50

wtf is this with me being neutralized? I slaughtered the enemy jets, im pulling back becuse going after any other targets would be suicide, and besides the fighters are almost out of fuel.

Kraveska

11-03-2009, 05:10

To-Birkaine

Can you leave a few fighters or a ship or something to help me guard the coast? I would be much obliged.

Strator

11-03-2009, 12:01

OOC: To Macgruber: you've pretty much raped my coast already, it isn't the coast which is defended anymore, its the land a decent while behind it, like a kilometer or so.

IC:

Against Cuborg:

Augustus Stratorius Rex III smiled upon hearing of the compliance of Cuborg to his instructions. They had now left their transports completely undefended, he could wipe them out and then deal with the remainder of the Cuborg forces as they came back in vengeance. But he shall not. He would make sure that Cuborg shall forever remember this moment of clemency. The message had now been sent to the transports, they may leave. For a man governed greatly by instinct and violent rage, this decision was hard for him, but in a rare moment of pure sanity, he had come to it. The message he had had sent contained a warning with it:

"Should a Cuborg force fall to Strator again, this caritas shall not be reciprocated"

Against Macgruber:

The enormous air fleet which had come to support the fronts set upon the Macgruber bombers. The B-1s readied to lay waste in the midst of the enemy fleet. With the current lack of enemy air support, the bombers had freedom to drop bomb after bomb. The radars had detected a large air force coming in to support Macgruber, but the Stratorian fighters were more than enough to counter these as there were more than two hundred of them.

Kraveska

11-03-2009, 13:18

The two Macgruber transports pulled up to the shore, with the more vulnerable cargo ships, which were also carrying soldiers, behind them. Kraveskan soldiers swarmed onto the beach, immediately occupying the Stratorian defenses. They raised the flagsof the allied nations above the positions, so they wouldn't be mistaken for SStratorian soldiers.

Strator

11-03-2009, 13:44

OOC: I reserve my right to ignore that post

Strator

11-03-2009, 14:50

Against Birkaine:

A large Stratorian fleet had now come in sight of the Birkainian forces. The Stratorian vessels which had already engaged in combat were starting to wear thin, the arrival of their comrades greatly boosted the survivor morale and allowed them to fight anew. Birkaine would soon be engaged on all sides, with the initial force having come from the west, and reinforcements arriving from the north and from the south, and also the North Defense air fleet which had mounted several attacks from the east.Nearby air force bases also let loose several squadrons of F16s and F22s to provide support for the North Defense air fleet.

One of the Stratorian super dreadnoughts had sunk, but the other was still going.Although the Stratorian Jormundgand class super dreadnought was slow, and only capable of cruising at 15 knots, its engines had been built so that it was able to manage a bursts of up to 30 to 40 knots of pure ramming speed. This was an unconventional method of marine warfare in modern times, and as such modern sea vessels are quite vulnerable to such an attack coming from an enormous machine such as the Jormundgand.Seeing the advantage that the North Defensian air support conferred, the captain of the super dreadnought had decided to ensure that this remains intact. The Captain ordered a full burst of ramming speed into the nearest Birkainian supercarrier, should the charge prove successful, the sharp serrated bow would tear down through the hull, and give a nice point blank shot for the Jormungand's bow cannons.

The Coast cannons still fired their deadly salvo as all this went on, they were unrelenting, and although many amongst them had been destroyed, those which still stood kept up the volleys. The Birkainian fleet was now caught between a rock and a hard place.

Jalanat

11-03-2009, 16:07

OOC: okay i missed out more than half of the pages, if someone could be so kind to tell what happened to my military in Stratoria?

Nachmere

11-03-2009, 16:58

ooc: this is a mess.

The Nachmere aircraft are ordered to return to Nachmere.

Birkaine

11-03-2009, 22:06

<<Enormous radar contact, it's heading right towards us!>>
<<New coordinates, change course at full speed!>>
The officers onboard the supercarrier started to steer the vessel as fast as they could. While the dreadnought was actually going faster, the supercarrier maneuvered deep inside the fleet. The four Yamato battleships started to fire their guns at the approaching super dreadnought, while the Birkanians' own dreadnought started launching salvoes of P-283 Moskit missiles at the massive ship. Ticonderogas and Sovremennys started firing Tomahawk cruise missiles, and live-feed datalinks from the Birkanian ships gave the missiles the ability to maneuver troughout their course. The missiles were fired and flew onwards and backwards of the launcher ships, and and did a wide turn to come in from port and starboard sides of the enemy ship. This was while the Moskits were fired to take the super dreadnought head-on, and now it was the Stratorian vessel who found itself attacked from all sides.

The submarines escorting the fleet started to turn towards the Stratorian vessel too, and started to load up their torpedo tubes, in case the tremendous bombardment didn't have any effect. The smaller ships were ordered to focus their gun fire on the Stratorian SuperDreadnought's radar and antennae masts, but keeping the missiles ready to intercept any enemy ships that tried to take advantage of this. All the Kirovs, Winstons and Slavas were still looking for smaller enemy ships and aircraft.

<<All our lives we've been waiting for this, comrades! Stand together and fight!>>
The loudspeakers of the Stonager continued to blare. The fleet as a whole was trying to get away from the coast while they did the elaborate maneuver aganist the super dreadnought, and one of the Alvaro de Balzan-class frigates got hit in the stern by a coastal gun and started lagging behind.

Kraveska

11-03-2009, 22:55

OOC: I reserve my right to ignore that post

Why? you are no longer on the beach, so we have taken the beach positions. Why should you ignore that?

Birkaine

11-03-2009, 22:58

OOC: Probably because you can't just say you took a chunk of his beach. All the effects of military actions must be said by the victim. i.e. you attack me with anti ship missiles. You can't say you sunk a ship, no matter if it was a defenseless fishing sloop. Only me, the one fired upon, can admit losses.

Kraveska

11-03-2009, 22:59

Then how am I supposed to say that I moved my men onto the beach?

Imperial isa

11-03-2009, 23:04

ooc for the love of it Kraveska use Out of character when you not posting In Character

Macgruber

11-03-2009, 23:21

Bomb after bomb rained from the sky destroying destroyers and battleships as the fighters above engaged in a deadly dog fight. dozens and dozens of anti air missiles speed towards the sky, the destroyers targeted the bombers over the fighters for the most part. The landing party was deployed towards the coast. Dozens of Landing Craft, Air Cushioned and other Landing Craft Utility where speeding towards the shore bearing the Macgruber flag. years of training came down to what happens when they land. Helicopters flew over top, CH-47 Chinooks,UH-60 Black Hawks,AH-64 Apaches and Mil Mi-24s where some of the few flying over the landing party.

Kraveska

11-03-2009, 23:26

Macgruber is moving onto the coast, why can't I?

Imperial isa

11-03-2009, 23:36

ooc wow Kraveska what part of my post don't you get ?

Cuborg

11-03-2009, 23:39

The first squadron of Cuborg planes moved up towards the point of the Macgruber attack. The squadron leader remarked about how easy it would be to screw over the Macgruber troops, much like the Germans did to the Russians during World War II. The commander was quickly reminded by his wing mates that Germany turning on Russia was what probably made the Nazis lose the war. The commander stopped talking just as the first planes made it into range of the AA guns.

Kraveska

11-03-2009, 23:45

Cuborg

11-03-2009, 23:51

North Defese

12-03-2009, 00:11

ooc: None of the nations comment about North Defese launching an air raid then leaving without any given reason?

Birkaine

12-03-2009, 03:28

I thought Cuborg was on our side. This is just more proof of how messy this thread is.
Can we get one thing strait? The beach we were attacking was clear, or so Birkaine told me, so my men moved onto the beach. Why is that a problem?
OOC: Use 'OOC' before all statements that are not in-character.
Also, I said I cleared the skies from North Defesian planes, not the beaches. My coastal bombardment was supporting Jalanat, not you. Now, I can't support anybody as I'm in a naval engagement.

Kraveska

12-03-2009, 03:36

ooc: (hey, my first ooc post! YAY!) You said it was safe to begin operations. Oh well, I guess I'll just wait.

Birkaine

12-03-2009, 03:37

OOC: I was referring to the helicopters you said you brought. Now they can fly around without being visciously hunted down by North Defesian JSFs, at least for now.

Kraveska

12-03-2009, 03:39

ooc: But they may be hit by coastal anti-aircraft weapons. I could just bombard the coast with these two battleships Macgruber lent me, but I may need support.

Birkaine

12-03-2009, 03:42

OOC: can't do a thing. I'm under attack by ND aircraft and stratorian vessels.

Kraveska

12-03-2009, 03:43

ooc: Oh really? How many planes?

Birkaine

12-03-2009, 03:46

OOC: read previous pages.

Strator

12-03-2009, 09:43

Why? you are no longer on the beach, so we have taken the beach positions. Why should you ignore that?

OOC: No, I ignore it because you RPed Macgruber's transports mainly. Although that you didn't exactly give any stage in between being amongst the fleet and being on the beach is also a reason.

and to Birkaine, there are also a lot of Stratorian planes in the area, but it appears ND has left so these are all you'll have to deal with in terms of air support.

Kraveska

12-03-2009, 13:20

Yeah, Macgruber lent me two transports to carry my troops with.

Birkaine

13-03-2009, 04:15

<<Empty the tubes! Sink them now!>>
The order, given by the commander of a Belkalandian Typhoon-class Submarine, resonated troughout the ship until it got to the torpedo officer, and two 53cm torpedoes were fired from the submarine, which had gotten in an interception course with the stratorian super dreadnought. The current headings of both ships meant that the torpedoes were going to hit the stern of the enemy ship, destroying the propellers and the rudders with enough luck.

Miles away, a Birkanian submarine detachment was beggining to make preparations for a long cruise towards the battlefield. Their forces included 3 Oscar II-class SSBNs and 12 Victor III-class SSNs. The ships began to submerge slowly in a very loose formation to reduce noise, and activated their passive sonars.

OOC: @ Kraveska: You still jumped from being in deep sea to landing troops. You have to say what happens in between.

@Strator: It's probably not for me to say, but making a ship as large as your SDN jump face-first into a rather large armada might not be the smartest thing to do :P

Strator

13-03-2009, 10:39

@Strator: It's probably not for me to say, but making a ship as large as your SDN jump face-first into a rather large armada might not be the smartest thing to do :P

OOC: Thats the point of it though, its a beast machine covered in thick plating, its not expected to survive but it dominates the battlefield and demoralizes enemies. While this wouldn't work so nicely in RL, there is a little bit more lenience in NS towards unconventional warfare. When I can be full well bothered, I am planning on drawing up specs on the Jormundgand, but with the crap load of coursework I got, I don't see that happening any time soon. I might post in response to yours and Macgrubers attacks later tonight, but I can't right now.

Strator

14-03-2009, 07:59

Against Birkaine:

OOC: While they are still destroyable, in fact more so, the Jormundgand runs on water jets (mostly because I bothered drawing up the designs (http://s690.photobucket.com/albums/vv263/Stratorns/?action=view&current=JormundgandSideview.jpg)but couldn't make a nice looking propeller on corel draw)

IC:

The rear of the Jormundgand shuddered as one of the torpedo's made impact, the primary water jet was damaged beyond repair, although the steering jets remained intact, although all they were capable of was three knots. The beast had become a sitting duck. There was a hole in the hull of the ship as well, but it was nowhere near large enough to sink it. The captain knew his ship was doomed, and decided to bring death to his assailants, although he was to keep constant fire on the enemy ships. Depth charges started to roll off the rear railing as the super dreadnought turned towards the direction from which the shots came. The ship barely made clearance before the charges went off, but there was nothing of importance on the rear of the ship anymore, so it didn't matter. The barrels of death kept rolling off, hopefully one would come near enough to destroy the Jormundgand's bane.

Against Macgruber:

The tanks fired away into the distance, they couldn't see the landing crafts, but they knew roughly where they were. The blockhouse readied for the coming battle. The Stratorian fleet paid little heed to the transports, leaving the deed to the Stratorian aircraft, which swooped down and fired volleys of Armour piercing rounds and missiles upon the helicopters.

Lyras

14-03-2009, 12:05

The month had yet to expire. Strator still had time, according to the ultimatum delivered by Warmarshal Krell. In a very real sense, the Protectorate's hands, for the next two weeks, were tied. And there were yet diplomatic avenues to exhaust. But that did not stop Lyran satellites from scrutinising every move that took place over Strator's western coast.

That data was fed back to Aerospace Command's satellite control centres in Bredubar, Castlegate and Eastcudgel, and thence to the planning and doctrine analysis teams tasked to determine contingencies for Lyran deployments.

Notes were taken. Strategies and tactics recorded.

If and when Lyras moved, it would do so with reasonable knowledge of what to expect. Chief amongst the observations was the fact that with less than half of 1% of the force Lyras was preparing to bring to bear upon Strator, the states of Cuborg, Berkaine, Macgruber and Kraveska had managed to force their way onto the Stratorian beaches, despite the suppression and/or withdrawal of Jalanat and Nachmere, and in the face of stiff opposition by North Defese and Strator.

Also of note was the devastation wrought upon the Stratorian coastal defences. It was exceedingly improbable, given the extent of the destruction discernable by satellite, that they would be combat ready within two weeks. Another piece of data that slid into the analysts' calculations...

Preliminary targetting parameters were adjusted. Should war begin, the most up to date information would lead to the most up to date targetting, and thusly the most combat effective use of force.

Diplomacy would be conducted, when it commenced, in good faith. But, in the interim, one of the largest armadas in history weighed anchor from a hundred ports, and pointed their bows toward Kurpsegrad.

Macgruber

14-03-2009, 14:00

the men exited the crafts,some disappointed there where no men to shoot, some where relived. APCs,Tanks,Self propelled artillery and anti-air truck where some of the many diffrent vehicles quickly unloaded on the beach. The Self propelled artillery took aim at where the upcoming blockade was through satellites. The AA fired at the enemy fighters over head and the tanks and men headed for cover. the easiest way to get through the blockade was to soften it up first or risk heavy casualties. Tank rounds came flying towards the group. most landed at a area above the beachhead, few even made it onto the beach. The helicopters took many causalities but pushed forward. the fighters used this as a chance to launch a massive missile volley at them. The fleet kept trying to fight off the Strator navy, they moved as close as they could to the beach to provide long range fire support if needed while protecting the group if they can defeat the enemy fleet.

OOC: So whats my surroundings. Coastal defenses (And what are they.) small towns?

Lynion

14-03-2009, 14:40

Vamperial Kingdom Terrorities
Unilax, Somewhere North of Union
1012 Hours

Vamperial Headmaster Sherman and Vamperial Knight Tai quietly walked through the ruins of a burning combat jeep as they came in sight of what they came for. They eventually came face to face with one of oldest fortress in Vamperial Terrority which was home to ruthless outcasts. Sherman looked around for a moment before the main door was opened. They were watched with curious eyes, the gun batteries gunners ventured towards the courtyard as Sherman and Tai were halted by a group of ex-military officers.

"I've come with an offer," started Sherman as Tai kept one of his hands on his pistol. "I've being ordered to give you this,"

Sherman threw a bag at the feet of the leader of the outcasts. The officer bent down as the other two covered him with MP5 Automatic Rifles. He carefully opened it and the leather bag came apart as the stench of the head of a fallen man could be seen. Outcasts sometimes knew what it meant especially since it was the officer that exiled them decades ago.

"What's the conflict?" he asked Sherman.

"Strator has given birth back to slavery and piracy...," stated Sherman.

"This is a Vamperial Conflict!" snapped back the man as Sherman glanced at him.

"If we don't put this down, they'll find you and enslave every single last one of you. Is that something you really want?" replied Sherman as he looked around at the men. "Unite with us and we can bring down the slavers and you'll have your honour," stated Sherman as he prayed he would rally the outcasts quickly.

"You'll have the Union and Lynx Outcasts," replied the officer. "What about the raiders and the mercenaries?"

"They've already answered the call to arms," replied Sherman. "We've already have an armada that'll sail to Strator under the guidence of Werewolf and Vampire. Our allies have answered the call and whem diplomacy fails, we will smash every single last one of them. The united armada's will stretch as far as the eye can see,"

The Vamperial Kingdom had already answered the call to arms. Alongside them were many key Raider's, Mercenaries and Outcasts that answered the call of duty to bring back honour to their fallen brothers and sisters. Union and Lynx had already dispatch warships and transport ships to Lynion where a the largest armada ever to be mustered in Vamperial History was about to be sent should diplomacy fails.

Birkaine

14-03-2009, 20:53

Against Birkaine:
The rear of the Jormundgand shuddered as one of the torpedo's made impact, the primary water jet was damaged beyond repair, although the steering jets remained intact, although all they were capable of was three knots. The beast had become a sitting duck. There was a hole in the hull of the ship as well, but it was nowhere near large enough to sink it. The captain knew his ship was doomed, and decided to bring death to his assailants, although he was to keep constant fire on the enemy ships. Depth charges started to roll off the rear railing as the super dreadnought turned towards the direction from which the shots came. The ship barely made clearance before the charges went off, but there was nothing of importance on the rear of the ship anymore, so it didn't matter. The barrels of death kept rolling off, hopefully one would come near enough to destroy the Jormundgand's bane.

<<We've been hit! Mayday! Mayday!>>
The captain said in desperation. The depth charges exploded next to the leading Belkalandian Typhoon submarine, and its hull ruptured. Water started to come in at a frightening pace despite the best efforts of damage control. The middle section of the submarine flooded, and electrical short circuits caused several fires to appear inside the ship. With a loud, deep screech, the hull finally gave up and broke in half, and the few doomed survivors were sent to the abyss. Another submarine of the Ohio-class was caught in the blast, but the damage was light and only a few leaks appeared, which were sealed quickly. The rest of the submarines backed off.

<<U-115 is sinking!>> The sonar operator of one of the Birkanian Kirovs said. The sonar was overloaded with the ammount of noise coming from both the depth charges detonating and the submarine sinking. The transmission quickly arrived to the flagship of the Birkanian fleet.

<<They have achieved glory on the battlefield, and it will not be in vain! Avenge them, comrades! Not one step back!>> The captain of the Stonager kept shouting like a preacher. All battleships continued shelling the battered super dreadnought, and the Stonager let off another volley of anti-ship Moskit missiles and torpedoes, and the rest of the Belkalandian submarines launched their own Type 53 torpedoes at the Stratorian vessel.

A few miles away, the Birkanian submarines turned on their active sonars. The ammounts of noise coming from the battle would probably hide the pings of the sonar from ASW, and it allowed them to locate the enemy and friendly ships.
<<This is K-413, we're approaching the enemy vessels. All ships, keep noise levels to a minimum. Dive as low as you can.>>
While the submarines were arriving, eight Nimrod anti-ship aircraft were being readied on Birkanian airbases for a long cruise.

Cuborg

14-03-2009, 21:49

The Cuborg planes flew over the beach, launching flares and chaff. Several didn't quite make it, but the squadrons made in to range of the Strator airforce, which was in the middle of a large dogfight with the Macgruber Air Force. "All units, engage the enemy planes." The Su-30s engaged the Strator aircraft.

The Hinds, that were trailing behind the planes, were closing in on the beach. They would cover the Macgruber soliders on the ground.

Strator

15-03-2009, 05:17

If and when Lyras moved, it would do so with reasonable knowledge of what to expect. Chief amongst the observations was the fact that with less than half of 1% of the force Lyras was preparing to bring to bear upon Strator, the states of Cuborg, Berkaine, Macgruber and Kraveska had managed to force their way onto the Stratorian beaches, despite the suppression and/or withdrawal of Jalanat and Nachmere, and in the face of stiff opposition by North Defese and Strator.

OOC: grrrr, this was my first war RP, so I pretty much just matched whatever was thrown at me in terms of numbers. I didn't expect to win these wars anyway so it doesn't really bother me.

To Macgruber:

Coastal forts, which are not in the best of condition due to your bombings, behind which is about a 1 km gap of completely flat deforested land. Behind this is a long line of tanks, machine gun emplacements and infantry, including snipers. There are a few AA emplacements although not quite so many as within the coastal forts.They are all on an artificial hill which runs all the way along the lines behind the coast and they have a short concrete wall with sand bags in front of them. Its generally a pretty sturdy second line of defense. Behind this there are cities but generally a decent distance back.

Lynion

15-03-2009, 05:28

OOC: Hey, you're doing really good for the first war RP you've done.

Birkaine

15-03-2009, 05:33

OOC: I agree

The Birkanian submarines arrived to the battlefield, and readied their torpedo tubes. On the Belkalandian side, the U-405, the Ohio-class submarine that had been hit by the depth charges and survived, was having troubles. Despite that the hull breaches had been sealed, the submarine became noisy and slow. It started to head out of the battle at full speed.

Strator

15-03-2009, 06:42

OOC: Thanks, but I was complaining about the fact that the numbers we all RPed were too small for our nations' capability, and now Lyras is going to RP his military numbers to his nation's full capability, and I can't match that.

Birkaine

15-03-2009, 06:55

OOC: Well, that really depends on what his full capacity is, really.

Lynion

15-03-2009, 09:58

OOC: Lyras full capacity? I'm glad I'm not on the recieving side when he rocks up with his army.

Holy Marsh

15-03-2009, 17:29

OOC: Just one of his Orders is 30+ million.

Birkaine

15-03-2009, 18:13

OOC: To whoever brings an army that has more ships than china's population: Thank you for ruining this RP.

Nachmere

15-03-2009, 19:38

ooc: i did not withdraw. there was total mayhem and I was sending my very small and poorly armed air-force to be slaughtered by strator. I made a decision to keep my air force out of it. like i siad IC, my troops will partake in the fighting, on my own terms.

Macgruber

15-03-2009, 20:09

OOC:May i ask what your standard rifle/tank/sniper rifle is? hows the air battle going above for you? hows your fleet outside?

Some soldiers went into the coastal defenses to take a break before the upcoming battle. The soldiers cleaned the rooms of the dead and dropped them into the ocean. explosions could be heard from the battle raging to the west and the battle above. A temporary command center was established in one of the surviving bunkers. orders where given to dig several trenches around the beach and construct several above and below ground bunkers. The transports began heading back with a escort but many ships stayed to continue the battle with the Strator navy and airforce.

Message to Anti slave trading states:
From Macgruber head of defense:
The Strator beach is secured. There is still a battle going on with the navy and airforce but that is suspected to end soon. By the time that your transports arrive it will be safe to land.

Strator

16-03-2009, 08:06

OOC: What I mean though, is that given our nation sizes and defense budgets, all significant, we should have been using much greater sized forces. I will demonstrate in terms of aircraft: Strator has 9 times the defense budget and is 7 times the population of the US, I should have been deploying aircraft in the thousands, the US has more than 5000 fighters and bombers, I should have, conservatively, 35,000. We really downscaled our forces from what they should be. Lyras is now calling me on this as he is going to use all 100,000 aircraft his nation can theoretically support, while I am only using less than 1000 at the moment. I am not really complaining, I am just a little ticked at myself for getting myself in to this situation.

To Macgruber: I haven't made specs for some of my ideas for Stratorian tanks, so I'll say that for now I use the T-90. In terms of rifle I use the standard M16, and the snipers are using the M110. and in regards to your message to the anti slave nations, not that I would see it ICly, I was fairly sure you were outnumbered and outgunned, at least in air support.

To Birkaine: I also just realized that you are RPing for two nations, while I disagree with it, I guess its fine, but can you tell me their difference in deployment, as I now have no idea where they are and who I am attacking.

I'll make an IC response later tonight most likely.

Macgruber

16-03-2009, 16:49

To Macgruber: I haven't made specs for some of my ideas for Stratorian tanks, so I'll say that for now I use the T-90. In terms of rifle I use the standard M16, and the snipers are using the M110. and in regards to your message to the anti slave nations, not that I would see it ICly, I was fairly sure you were outnumbered and outgunned, at least in air support.

OOC: You probably do have more aircraft in the sky now. Not by a lot, well at least not yet. By the amount of AA missiles we have going into the air and on these ships or on the beach we probably would gain air superiority. the ground troops are probably outgunned because there against a entire country. The our navy probably isn't outgunned yet because there was enough support for the transports. Now when you mobilize more of your army, we are screwed unless we get some more support.

The Generals are pleased on how the attack is going, since they could break through there first defense more men have been ordered for immediate deployment.

Dozens of transport planes with supplies (ammo,rations,water, medical supplies, fuel, building supplies and more men) take off from bases along the Macgruber coast. Fleets of ships take off from ports all over Macgruber. Transport choppers carrying everything from Artillery to Long range missiles speed towards the beach held by Macgruber. Thousands of fighters take to the sky to defend the second wave.

At the beach several trenches are completed along the border of the beach. Sand bags are piled in front of the trench and a 1.5 meter pile of dirt behind it. troops inside ready to repel a counter attack. A second trench is currently being dug behind the first one. Makeshift barracks and tents are set up in and in front of the coastal defenses.

Birkaine

16-03-2009, 21:47

To Birkaine: I also just realized that you are RPing for two nations, while I disagree with it, I guess its fine, but can you tell me their difference in deployment, as I now have no idea where they are and who I am attacking.

OOC: Belkaland allowed me to use his forces, which IC means that he just sent reinforcements to my fleet. They are mostly ships, which are now within my own formation, so don't worry about being attacked from several sides.

Strator

18-03-2009, 11:13

OOC: Damnit, I made a reeeeeeeeally long post which took me ages and then my computer crashed before I could post it... grrr....

Strator

18-03-2009, 15:12

OOC: I am now going to correct my original understatement of my forces ICly.

IC:

The time had come, the enemy were locked deep in combat, Macgruber was already on Stratorian shores, and locked between the tank line and the Stratorian navy. The Lord Archon gave the order which had been awaited anxiously.

All Stratorian naval vessels on the western coast pulled out into a position behind the Macgruber fleet, cutting off the line of retreat. Their guns focused on the more prominent AA capable ships. The re-enforcements which had been flooding in now meant that the Stratorian fleet engaging with Macgruber now had more than four hundred battleships alone, with all other ships counted, they numbered at over seven hundred. All these guns pelted the enemy with shells in a seemingly endless wave. The barrage was just a precursor to something greater, all steps in a plan. A mini fleet of submarines went out as a line to detect and monitor, and possibly take out any Macgruber re-enforcements en route.

The Tank line also gave fire, but to the ground rather than to the sea. Anything which moved was to be blasted apart by the line of tank guns. The snipers were not at their best at more than a kilometer, but as soon as the landing party moved closer, they would be ripped apart by their semi-automatic fire. Their only task was to keep the enemy at a distance, the enemy fleet would soon be annihilated and the infantry would lose heart and likely surrender. The enemy helicopters had long been engaged by the Stratorian fighters, who fired waves of missiles and peppered their prey with decent spray of gun fire.

The reason for all this pinning of the enemy was to keep them in place to be easy pickings for the swarm which came from central Strator. Four thousand fighter planes of assorted makes and models flying vanguard to an equally large swarm of three thousand five hundred bombers. The sky was dotted with flying "V"s for miles, and even behind these was a decently impressive fleet of two hundred air to air fuel refill vessels. They now were within 200 kilometers of the coast which at the speed they were flying at meant they would be in combat in less than five minutes.

A similar deployment also flew to the east, but they would not need so much of a defensive preparation. The remaining Jormundgand was on its last legs, but it was capable of one last burst of speed from its broken water jets which would put it amongst the enemy fleet. The battle was far from the coast, the ships nuclear reactor could create a EMP blast before it sank.

Nonetheless, there was significant targeting of AA batteries aboard the Birkainian ships.

Jalanat

18-03-2009, 16:05

OOC: hey guys i'm back, what happened during my absence?

Strator

18-03-2009, 16:08

OOC: well I didn't RP attacking you because I thought ND got you out of the fight.

Jalanat

18-03-2009, 16:23

OOC: ok i got it. i'm just trying to look through some posts now to shed full light on the current situation.

Birkaine

19-03-2009, 02:33

The missiles onboard a Kirov were hit by the artillery coming from the Jordmungrad, making them detonate and shearing the ship in half. A smaller Lafayette frigate came near to it to rescue the sailors onboard the sinking vessel, thus the Stratorians neutralized two vessels.

Torpedoes came from most ships, now that the Jordmungrad was in range. Most of the smaller vessels suspended their missile fire and started dropping torpedoes onto the water, although the battleships kept pounding at the Jordmungrad, along with the Omen launching several Moskit missiles. Submarines emptied and reloaded their tubes liberally, sending volleys of supercavitating Shkval underwater rockets onto the dying ship.

OOC: Don't bother. First, a nuclear reactor cannot cause an EMP as far as I know. They're not nukes and you cannot make a nuke with a reactor, unlike in movies. Secondly, the reactor's shielding and the ship's own bulkhead would probably absorb the EMP, and third, all current ships are shielded aganist EMP, and so are the few original vessels in my arsenal.

Strator

19-03-2009, 10:08

OOC: You can't make a nuke with a reactor, but you can make it overload, which still causes a decent amount of damage, but what I meant was that the ship had an on board EMP generator which required all the ships power to be diverted to it, although I did kind of make that really ambiguous in my post. And I thought that ships were actually really susceptible to EMP, so hmmmmm, drats... I knew that cars weren't due to the effect of rubber tires. I'll do it anyway, seeing as the Jormundgand is gonna go down now, it would at least ruin all your communication between ships. Stratorian vessels still have semaphore :-)

IC:

There was no blast, no light, but the Jormundgand had let out a roar before it sank. As soon as the EMP went off, all explosive items were set off by the crew simultaneously. With the thickness of the hull, very little would turn into shrapnel, but they prayed nonetheless that their blast would cause some damage. It likely would not, the admiral knew that, but he had given his permission for the captain to go ahead with his last deed to the nation.

Imperial isa

19-03-2009, 10:16

knew that cars weren't due to the effect of rubber tires.
ooc no they won't stop EMPs

Strator

19-03-2009, 12:46

OOC: oh, thanks... now I'm completely wrong, hurrah

Imperial isa

19-03-2009, 12:52

ooc well i can recall is modern cars are full of things, that can get fubar by emps if they not shielded,older cars i can't recall anything about

Macgruber

19-03-2009, 16:24

The Macgruber soldiers where under heavy fire. the command on the island had to act fast, the self propelled artillery fired on the line of tanks. 2 b-52s where ordered to drop there remaining ordinance on the line so they could charge. the trench opening fire with M40 rifles, Barrett M82,McMillan Tac-50. Long range anti tank rockets are launched to try and destroy the enemy tanks. The vehicles and men prepared to charge, facing over (OOC Strator insert number here.) Strator soldiers.
The large Macgruber fleet first outnumbered Strator was now heavily outnumber and since there line of retreat was cut off they had no choice but to fight. Thousands of enemy fighters appeared on radar. Hope had left every man and women on board the many ships. But there will to fight did not leave, the unarmed empty transport ships increased there speed and began to try and ram the enemy ships. The battleships refused to back down and despite heavy casualties and there impending they held strong returning fire with everything in there arsenal.

The second wave that Macgruber sent to Strator received the news of what happened. The thousands of fighters knew they would soon face a challenge as the would the Submarines and Battleships heading to Strator.

Macgruber authorized X-51 Hypersonic Cruise Missiles to be fired at the Strator navy and the blockade so the second wave could stroll in. At a missile base by the capital in Macgruber, 30 X-51 are fired at Strator there targets the navy and the blockade.

OOC: The specs on the X-51 Missile: X-51 Hypersonic Cruise Missiles Travels as fast as 3600 MPH, the warheads are filled with scored tungsten rods with twice the strength of steel. Just above the target, the warheads detonate, showering the area with thousands of rods-each one up to 12 times as destructive as a .50-caliber bullet. Anything within 3000 sq. ft. of this whirling, metallic storm is obliterated.

Yanitaria

19-03-2009, 17:18

OOC: Just to make it clear, and I cannot speak for the other, mainly Fedalan, combatants, but I do not recognize MacGruber's or Cuborgs attack as IC canon, since, in my humble opinion, it makes for a sloppy story, and doesn't follow the OOC planning that Lyras had originally intended, which allows for a much more dynamic set of RP conditions, and more possibilities. I personally would not blame Stator for ignoring the attacks, or at the very least politely ask that MacGruber and Cuborg coordinate more fully with the Lyran-lead opposition, instead of going cavalier and attacking on their own.

I personally think this thread ought to be retconned, and that MacGruber and Cuborg at least pretend to show a united front with the section of the international community that opposes slavery in Strator.

Cuborg

19-03-2009, 20:13

The Hinds took heavy AA fire, losing many, but they eventually made it within range of the line of tanks. S-8B rockets were released from the rocket pods of the gunships. The airplanes above were locked in an intense dogfight with the Strator F-22s and F-35s. The Cuborg pilots were fighting a losing battle, and knew it. The order was given for all aircraft to retreat back to base.

Message to Macgruber Field Command:
Hold your position. Take cover and await reinforcements. Within the hour, you will have support. Hold tight.

OOC: We would gladly act as Lyras intended, but we felt that would have taken too slow, and the only way to end the slave conflict is to immediately invade Strator, without giving them a chance to prepare themselves.

Birkaine

19-03-2009, 22:36

OOC: No, I mean naval vessels are shielded aganist EMP. Pretty much everything made for the military is.

<<Join me comrades, as I gaze upon the face of victory!>> The captain said, extasciated. The enormous shockwave hit the fleet, and damaged the missile launchers of a couple destroyers. <<Size will not protect them!>>

While the Jordmungrad went under, with a loud creaking in the hull, the fleet started to get back onto its normal formation. The carrier had been saved and a super dreadnought was sunk; this boosted the morale of the Birkanian crewmembers and was a perfect oportunity for the preachers and commissars onboard all ship to start shouting their ferocious speeches, rising the adrenaline of the sailors to toxic levels. The one to claim the vessel as its own kill had been the flagship Omen, now scoring two dreadnoughts destroyed. The fleet continued its course, and was now en route to engage the remaining ships of the Stratorian taskforce sent to destroy them.

Macgruber

20-03-2009, 01:07

After receiving the word from Cuborg, Macgruber ordered all approaching transports and fighters to return to port.

Yanitaria

20-03-2009, 01:29

Cuborg

20-03-2009, 01:59

Yanitaria

20-03-2009, 02:03

OOC: We disagree with your decision to wait for an attack. If we waited any longer, Strator would have prepared themselves for our attack, and the enslaved population would be likely be move around/executed.

OOC: Either way, it would probably take you a month to mount a sizable enough invasion force. Besides, so what? It'd make for a better RP, which is more important than winning, which is why I have no problem with Strator just ignoring you, and having a much better RP for it.

Besides, if you had bothered to attempt anything other than a bilateral attack, you'd realize that we have a very good reason for not attacking right off the bat, and instead at least trying to solve the issue diplomatically.

New Manth

20-03-2009, 02:36

OOC: We disagree with your decision to wait for an attack. If we waited any longer, Strator would have prepared themselves for our attack, and the enslaved population would be likely be move around/executed.

ooc: So it is possible to
1. make all the preparations and stockpile all the materiel for a cross-ocean amphibious invasion involving thousands of ships, tens of thousands of aircraft, hundreds of thousands of vehicles and millions of men,
2. defeat your enemy's navy to the extent that it can no longer interfere in the massive supply lines for such a force nor attack it on the beachheads
3. do the same to the enemy airforce,
4. conduct detailed reconnaisance to determine the best places to land and the disposition of enemy forces, so that you aren't landing into the most heavily defended areas and getting slaughtered before you make it a half mile inland,
5. destroy enemy defense infrastructure (probably from the air or with long-range missile strikes) to such an extent that they cannot simply shift around their superior land force to crush isolated landing areas,
6. actually land these hundreds of thousands of vehicles and millions of men on the enemy coast in the face of resistance from an opposing land force that heavily outnumbers you, and no matter what you do in (5.) will probably manage to bring at least some of this force to bear,
7. ship the millions of tons of necessary supplies and materiel for a subsequent land campaign to the enemy coast, unload them somehow (so far without the help of things like "port facilities," I note), and get them to your troops so you can start the land battle with troops who aren't out of ammunition, fuel and food,

in under an IC month?

I would perhaps differ from Yanitaria only in my view that the proper result of such a campaign as this should be the utter and one-sided slaughter of the invading ground forces, and see no reason why Strator should be asked to retcon away such a situation. Although it is up to you all.

Cuborg

20-03-2009, 05:00

...solve the issue diplomatically...
OOC: Cuborg and Macgruber have no interest in diplomatic resolutions.

...in under an IC month?
OOC: We are only making our initial assault. Should we succeed, supply lines and the like will be established.

Imperial isa

20-03-2009, 05:15

OOC: We are only making our initial assault. Should we succeed, supply lines and the like will be established.

ooc wow lack of foresight

Cuborg

20-03-2009, 05:24

...lack of foresight.
OOC: The Cuborg military doesn't think, they just do things. Not the best tactic, but it's won conflicts before.

Yanitaria

20-03-2009, 07:26

OOC: The Cuborg military doesn't think, they just do things. Not the best tactic, but it's won conflicts before.

OOC: This is exactly why I don't think anyone will blame Strator for ignoring the attacks.

Strator

20-03-2009, 11:03

The one to claim the vessel as its own kill had been the flagship Omen, now scoring two dreadnoughts destroyed. The fleet continued its course, and was now en route to engage the remaining ships of the Stratorian taskforce sent to destroy them.

It blew itself up if you read my post, and I can understand the ships being shielded, but unless you have wires insulated in three inches of rubber going from boat to boat, there is absolutely no way for your communications to be able to cross the disturbance.

After receiving the word from Cuborg, Macgruber ordered all approaching transports and fighters to return to port.

Is this a full exit from the war? If so, I cannot see this as being wise at all considering your troops will be massacred as they leave unless they surrender.

To Yanitaria: Provided the answer on Macgruber's part to the above question is 'yes', then should you still be willing to host, Strator would accept an invitation to the diplomatic summit.

Jalanat

20-03-2009, 15:14

Jalanese forces retreat from Strator. they still remain around the waters but ground war had been suspended, all infantry was picked up by helicopter and dropped off at the USS Shinsun. a big aircraft carrier with experimental guns. the prototype of a railgun mounted on the USS Shinsun capable of shooting projectiles of 7 pounds weight at 7 times the speed of sound.

Birkaine

20-03-2009, 17:02

It blew itself up if you read my post, and I can understand the ships being shielded, but unless you have wires insulated in three inches of rubber going from boat to boat, there is absolutely no way for your communications to be able to cross the disturbance.
OOC:
And just as the RN claimed the Bismarck, scuttled by its own crew, I claimed your ship.

Fiber optics. Hell, that's why nobody uses e-bombs aganist military targets anymore. The russians had plans for an EMP anti-AWACS missile in the cold war, but the US armed forces were quick to shield their stuff aganist EMP, and now everybody does. Everything, from the tiniest radio to the largest aircraft or vessel is entirely made of things tested aganist EMP in facilities such as this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/USS_Estocin_FFG-15_moored_near_EMPRESS_I.jpg) and this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/E-4_advanced_airborne_command_post_EMP_sim.jpg).

An EMP would interrupt comms too briefly to be relevant, really.

Strator

21-03-2009, 03:23

Birkaine

21-03-2009, 03:33

OOC: I ain't packing up

<<Our allies have fallen to cowardice, comrades!>> The captain shouted bitterly <<It is in our hands, brothers! Destroy the enemmies of Birkaine!>> The super dreadnought started to increase its speed, and all submarines joined the fleet as it went towards the north. Now what was once a landing operation seemed more like a suicidal charge, with the amphibious landing craft of the Birkanians now long gone.

Strator

21-03-2009, 03:52

A message is sent to all enemy fleets fleeing Strator.

"We have given you long enough, declare official surrender from the war, or we shall recommence fire upon you. You are all surrounded, unless we allow you, you will never leave these waters alive. The conditions of the surrender are as follows, should you not be able to send a message to us, compliance to these terms shall be taken as such. All weaponry must be disabled, infantry weaponry is to be dropped into the sea or should they be ashore, on to the ground. All vehicles must stop from moving, and their cannons must be pivoted to point a far skyward as possible. Upon completion of these terms, we will send a second message stating your freedom to leave Stratorian waters."

The Cuborgian aircraft would not be able to be caught so easily, but Augustus would have loved such an opportunity. Should the surrender demands be met, it would be the second time he has put his enemies in a state of humiliation and weakness, it would be an experience he would quite love to have.

Against Birkaine:

OOC: Aren't you involved in another war right now as well? Not that I am trying to push you out (although my forces are), I just don't think that's wise.

IC:

The forces of Strator leaped like a panther to its prey. Communications were down for just seconds, but this advantage would be seized as best as it could be.Still the ship guns fired, cannon round after cannon round tore through the air and soon would do so to ship armor.

The massive air fleet came down upon the enemy, thousands of bombers would drop tens of thousands of bombs. The fighters were to engage in dogfights with anything which flew and was not Stratorian. Never before had a sea been so broken, and while the bombs spelled death for ships, it was the shock waves which would really cause the damage, they would be enough to rip up anything just beneath the surface.

Birkaine

21-03-2009, 04:02

OOC: I'm less involved into the other war.

<<The moment we've been waiting for! You will live and die for the nation of Birkaine, gentlemen! Stand together and fight with an ironclad will!>> The admiral shouted from the Stonager. All the ships tightened their formation, and a Slava was the first to be destroyed by shelling. The King George V, Yamato and Bismarck-class battleships responded to the shelling by emtpying their broadsides onto the Stratorian armada. All remaining Slavas started to launch their large anti-ship missiles at the enemy vessels, as the Ticonderogas and AEGIS battleships started to fire upon the enemy bombers.

Submarines started to launch torpedoes onto the enemy vessels too.

Strator

21-03-2009, 04:22

OOC: You seem to have ignored the fact that you just got bombed by 3500 bombers...

IC:

Many bombers fell under the AA fire of the enemy fleet, but many more were able to drop more of their payload on to them. The fighters seemed to meet no competition and so turned and fired their missile loads at all AA guns firing.Should the other enemies of Strator surrender, a second, and maybe a third wave of such numbers of aircraft would join in on the utter annihilation of Birkaine. The tightening of their formation must have been the worst move any nation has made in modern warfare, it was now impossible for Stratorian bombers to miss the enemy fleet, any single bomb might deal damage to two or three ships should they be dropped skillfully. Missile silos on land now fired a volley of 18 BrahMos hypersonic missiles, they would make impact before the enemy would have time to spread out.

Birkaine

21-03-2009, 05:42

The fighters seemed to meet no competition and so turned and fired their missile loads at all AA guns firing.
OOC: A2A missiles can't be fired at ships, none of my ships has AA guns (if you count out CIWS which don't even track aircraft), nor can anti-ship missiles target specific parts of a vessel; so I'll ignore this part. Nor can blast-based weapons take down ships while I'm at it, so I doubt a bomb would take out 3 ships.

Tor 9K330 missiles started being launched to intercept the bombs mid-air as the ships covered each other in a tight formation. The CIWSs from all ships were blazing, spitting out a storm of lead onto the oncoming bombs and missiles, and Ticonderoga cruisers fired thirty RIM-162 missiles at the oncoming BrahMos, followed by five Tors from Kirov cruisers. All ships turned their jamming suites on, so that GPS-guided bombs and cruise missiles would become dumb ammunition, and most of the ships switched to antiaircraft and antimissile duties. Some bombs got trough and destroyed three Winston cruisers, and crippled a LaFayette. The Stonager started to deploy one of its ICBM launchers, while the whole fleet set course to get out of Strator's waters.

<<We will fight to the last man and missile, gentlemen! Not one step back!>> A single R-36N was launched by the Stonager, followed by eight conventional Tridents from the submerged Ohio submarines, whish paused from their torpedoing of enemy ships to launch those missiles. The Typhoon-class subs started to launch ten RPK-2 cruise missiles onto the estimated launch sites of the BrahMos <<We shall prevail!>> The captain finally shouted furiously. If his ships weren't busy fighting with Strator, he would have probably ordered his own ships to fire upon the retreating allies.

The entire fleet was waiting for the enemy fighters to run out of fuel, then they would have to return to base. They bagan to do elaborate evasive maneuvers.

Belkaland

21-03-2009, 06:42

~500 Miles away~

A large fleet of fully equipped Farbanti-class Stealth Aircraft Carriers purchased by the Principality of Belkaland from the Glorious Republic of Neo-Erusea makes its way towards Belkaland. On board, Captain Allen Steele was on the Bridge of the lead Carrier when the Comms unit started picking up a signal <<We will fig..... to t.. ast man and missile, gentle.... No...one step back!>> <<We s..ll prevail!>>. Capt. Allen asked <<Lt., what was that?>> <<Unknown sir, but it's on a freqince regularly used by the Birkainian Navy. Sir, if I remember correctly, the Kaiserlich Marine currently has a joint mission with the Birkainian Navy in this region. Something to do with stopping the slave trade.>> Replied the Lt. <<Hmmm... It doesn't sound like they're doing too good. Helmsmen, change our course to 47º starboard. Let's get into radio range.>> Ordered Captain Steele.

Lyras

21-03-2009, 07:04

The Lyran satellite observation of the combatant naval and ground forces continued. Contingencies were made. Adjustments to assumptions factored in to battle plans. Orders relayed.

What was perhaps most remarkable to the observing Lyrans was the near-point blank ranges at which the conflict being fought, and the ad hoc implementation of reconaissance and target acquisition, and an almost complete disregard for the finer points of strategic manoeuver and concentration of force, coupled with palpable absence of requisite temporal and informational overmatch.

It was almost painful.

But the pain most Lyrans felt was far more visceral. Lyran satellite observation, detailed as it was, was informing the personnel manning the satellite ground stations of each and every explosion, sunk ship or distress signal.

Casualties on both sides were astronomical. Duty-bound though Lyras was to honour the pledge of their Warmarshal, Lyran hearts went out to the fighting soldiers and sailors that were giving their lives.

Strator

21-03-2009, 09:02

so I doubt a bomb would take out 3 ships.

So.... 30,000 bombs have destroyed three ships

none of my ships has AA guns

No AA?:

Ticonderogas and AEGIS battleships started to fire upon the enemy bombers.

A2A missiles can't be fired at ships,...nor can anti-ship missiles target specific parts of a vessel; so I'll ignore this part.

What makes you think that, fire it full on manual and it just goes straight. If the fighters go close, as they would be able to due to your lack of AA guns, yes they can.

Nor can blast-based weapons take down ships while I'm at it

really now...? how does that work?

Imperial isa

21-03-2009, 09:28

ooc bull CIWS can track planes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIWS

as for AA that been replace by SAMs ,CIWS and quick firing naval guns

Strator

21-03-2009, 09:50

OOC: AA gun just means something that is able to shoot planes.

Anti-aircraft warfare, or air defense, is any method of engaging hostile military aircraft in defense of ground objectives, ground or naval forces or denial of passage through a specific airspace region, area or anti-aircraft combat zone. It is also used in denying entry into national air space to unauthorized aircraft.

Yanitaria

21-03-2009, 11:11

OOC: I knew it would break the comms between ships briefly, but I was going to mount a fully co-ordinated attack whilst this happened, causing chaos within your ranks, if you are packing up and going like the rest of them I guess I won't. Awwww, I'm gonna be awfully since all you guys are leaving :p

To all retreating: If you want to leave without being shot at, you need to officially surrender.

OOC: Your demands are unreasonable. Either retcon the entire thing, or let them leave with out doing things like throwing thousands of dollars of equipment into the ocean, which you couldn't reliably verify anyways.

I strongly suggest retconning. As Lyras is trying to point out, the tactics used here are terrible, to put it lightly.

Strator

21-03-2009, 12:02

OOC:

To Yanitaria: Be as frank as you wish, I don't have any knowledge of modern military tactics and very little of modern military equipment. I do however am more savy in pre-gunpowder warfare, and as such I may have a predisposition to use such tactics, which are entirely obsolete in this day and age. I do not however wish to just pretend none of this happened, that just doesn't seem right to me.

To Imperial Isa: whaaaa? I really don't get what you mean by that last post

Imperial isa

21-03-2009, 12:12

OOC: AA gun just means something that is able to shoot planes.

ooc i make it Clear WRONG that not what it mean that the Title of guns that are used in Anti-aircraft warfare Role like these titles SAMs ,CIWS which are now said in place of AA gun when listing ships weapons

Strator

21-03-2009, 12:18

OOC: I know that, but all those come under a classification of AA guns...
and this thread is now way too filled up with way too much OOC.

Imperial isa

21-03-2009, 12:25

ooc you do,but what of those who don't know or know what they doing as they'er first war?

this thread a mess to start with ,sorry but it would be better war with Lyras and others who know what they are doing and Can help you lean more knowledge of modern military tactics and of modern military equipment

Strator

21-03-2009, 12:34

OOC: btw, I guess If Birkaine is alright with a retcon, then we can do so.

Imperial isa

21-03-2009, 12:48

ooc it your thread up to youAll ships turned their jamming suites on, so that GPS-guided bombs and cruise missiles would become dumb ammunition
are you jamming infrared , radar and GPS ?

all so how do you not know if the Anti-ship cruise missiles don't have Automatic target recognition as back up?

i say more then three ships would have been hit

Strator

21-03-2009, 13:17

OOC: I just sent a fleet of more than 3500 bombers, each capable of dropping ten or so bombs (which all did so long as they were not hit by AA), I can't see how only three ships are affected, especially since he put them in tight formation.

Imperial isa

21-03-2009, 13:22

ooc so you did a modern day copy of WW2 attack on a fleet with dumb bomb ?
so they jamming for nothing ?

Birkaine

21-03-2009, 20:23

OOC answers to all:
No AA, I wouldn't waste the CIWSs on aircraft, since I'm having thirty thousand bombs coming my way and the attacking aircraft are out of CIWS range in the first place. Ticos and aegis are missile ships, if you haven't noticed.

Also, that's a nice suicide you got there with fighters, seeing my ships are cluttered with SAMs as you might know. I would like to wonder how radar or infrared-guided missiles would even detonate aganist a ship if it's just a dumb rocket.

Blast-based weapons don't do crap to heavily armored targets such as tanks OR ships, that's why R-bombs and ATGMs were invented, or if you wanna go more onto the past, armor-piercing bunker buster bombs such as the Fritz-X.

I jammed GPS, since I didn't know they were dumb bombs. Smart weapons require an UAV or ground-based datalink to update their coordinates to track moving targets such as ships, so jamming the signals between the coordinate updater and the munition itself would make it miss. I was jamming the bombs, not the missiles, since the BrahMos has inertial guidance anyways. The anti-ship missiles had missiles fired on them.
Now, I wonder how 3500 bombers all carpet-bombed a relatively small and moving target such as a fleet in one bombing run. Even WWII bombers had to do several passes to drop such an ammount of ordinance precisely, or else most of the bombs would be wasted ahead and behind the target. With each AEGIS being able to track 150-200 targets and engage all at once (plus relaying the targets onto pretty much the whole fleet, so two missiles or CIWS are never engaged agannist a single target), the non-maneuvering dumb bombs needing to surpass three defensive layers (long-range SAMs, short range anti-munitions SAMs, and CIWSs), each designed to engage fast-moving, sea-skimming, high-supersonic targets (in real life), and assuming that some of the bombs inevitably failed because you dropped all of them at once instead of doing several precise bombing runs, because they were dumb ammunition and because a ship must be hit directly to be damaged (carpet bombing wasn't precisely effective in WWII aganist ships anyways); I say I have more than enough AA and AM to protect my ships, and three sunk/one disabled is a reasonable number.

That, plus I bet you're bombing from high altitude, unless you want your bombers to be shredded by CIWSs, MANPADs and small missiles such as the Mistral. That would make the accuracy of your bombs wonderful.

I'm willing to retcon.

Yanitaria

21-03-2009, 21:31

I'm willing to retcon.

OOC: Good to hear.

@Strator: I'll give you some pointers if we get to another war, but I would rather solve this diplomatically. I'll get the thread started tonight.

The Emmerian Unions

21-03-2009, 21:42

OOC: I just sent a fleet of more than 3500 bombers, each capable of dropping ten or so bombs...

<<OOC: So, how big are those bombers Strator? They must be small to carry only 10 bombs. As stated with the Wikipedia numbers I have provided here.

B-17 Flying fortress:

Bombs: **Short range missions (<400 mi): 8,000 lb (3,600 kg)
Long range missions (≈800 mi): 4,500 lb (2,000 kg)
Overload : 17,600 lb (7,800 kg)>>

A modern B-1B Lancer:

Bombs:
84× Mk-82 AIR inflatable retarder general purpose bombs
81× Mk-82 low drag general purpose bombs
84× Mk-62 Quickstrike sea mines
24× Mk-65 naval mines
30× CBU-87/89/CBU-97 Cluster Bomb Units (CBU)
30× CBU-103/104/105 Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser
24× GBU-31 JDAM GPS guided bombs
15× GBU-38 JDAM GPS guided bombs (Mk-82 general purpose warhead)
24× Mk-84 general purpose bombs
12× AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon
96× or 144× GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb GPS guided bombs (not fielded on B-1 yet)
24× AGM-158 JASSM
24× B61 thermonuclear variable-yield gravity bombs
24x B83 nuclear bomb

A B-52 Stratofortress:

Bombs: Approximately 70,000 pounds (31,500 kg) mixed ordnance -- bombs, mines, missiles, in various configurations

And a B-2 Spirit:

2 internal bays for 50,000 lb (22,700 kg) of ordnance.
80× 500 lb class bombs (Mk-82) mounted on Bomb Rack Assembly (BRA)
36× 750 lb CBU class bombs on BRA
16× 2000 lb class weapons (Mk-84, JDAM-84, JDAM-102) mounted on Rotary Launcher Assembly (RLA)
16× B61 or B83 nuclear weapons on RLA

So as you can see even WWII bombers and current Modern bombers carry far more bombs then those bombers of yours.>>

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