NationStates Jolt Archive

IC THREAD: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=585167

As Leistung, I never really had the chance to RP an attack on my homeland and the subsequent defeat of my land forces. A powerful alliance as well as a web of informal IC agreements and a powerful navy and air force prevented any adversaries from gaining more than a harbor's worth of Lesitungi land, and to by honest, I doubt that will change any time soon.

Freidlichen, on the other hand, is a pacifist nation. The people are not allowed to own weaponry, and the population itself is only around eight million, with the reserves (there is no active military in Freidlichen, save for the Freidlicher Guard) only numbering 140,000. Moreover, it controls a large amount of foreign monetary assets (which would be promptly returned, but I just wanted to remind myself of that :D) in addition to huge gold reserves and vast natural wealth in the form of tracts of arable land, ore, large forests (think wood), huge amounts of fresh water, as well as, obviously, the territory and people themselves.

Ah, but enough with the foreshadowing--what I'm looking for is someone to invade Freidlichen, defeat my meager military (expect street fighting to the death in Altenberg, though), and proceed to occupy the country. Geographically, Freidlichen is basically Switzerland, so remnants of the military, the Guard, and patriotic civilians will flee to the mountains and wage a guerrilla war against the occupation force.

Meanwhile, the occupiers would be doing...Lord, I don't know, occupation stuff (use your imagination, but try to be evil :rolleyes:) while my men rally for a final "omgclichepatriotism" attack to free Altenberg. And now we come to the reason why I posted an interest thread rather than allow this to be an open RP--the occupier will have to be defeated. With heavy street fighting, civilians charging with bayonets and lamp stands, and assorted flag raising in assorted places, the capital would eventually be freed, and foreign nations would finally take notice and intervene a la American Revolution.

Of course, I'll need an occupation power or two (or three, if we're feeling bold), in addition to, say, two or three foreign nations to eventually step in and pressure said nation(s) to step down, either by force or by diplomacy. All the participants must be good writers. I cannot possibly stress this enough, and it's part of the reason I did this thread. If you're interested, reply here, along with an example or two of your writing, and please, for the love of God do not get angry at me if I give you a thumbs-down. It doesn't mean I don't like you, it doesn't mean you aren't a good writer, it just means that you missed that very fine line between what I'd like in the thread and what you have to offer.

-Freidlichen/Leistung

Huh. SA is, as a rule, very diplomatic and opposed to military action unless it is strictly necessary. However, we'd be willing to join in as a diplomatic and possibly military entity on the rebel's side later on, most likely -- I'll tweak it a little depending on the situation.

As for writing: My original intro thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=542761) -- obviously, I wouldn't do anything *quite* this long if I'm accepted ;) -- and I'm not sure if you can access this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=1189134), although if you can't, just search for all posts by me in International Incidents, to weed out the ones in the General forum, for more samples of my RP writing. Most of them being official messages because I don't actually *write* very much. :<

I'll do it

I have been longing for a thread like this in ages. I have just recently up-dated my military and I am very willing to partake as an invader. Being a dictorship helps with the evil side as well. One question is this seperate from the rest of II or will it have a knock on effect

Perfect, SA. You're definitely accepted.

I assume your nation was swallowed up into the Great NS Abyss by some technical error?

Or because of this
Wed, 18 Feb 2009

Off We Go Again

by Max Barry

Well! That didn't last long. We are on the move to a new host, and so will suffer a little downtime over the next few days.

The "Nation Restoration" feature has been temporarily turned off, so we can shift those two million archived nations across without bringing down the entire game. Once we're moved, you will once again be able to restore that old, deleted nation.

Thanks for your patience! (http://www.nationstates.net/page=news)

If you'd want a futuristic borg like entity invading, we'd be happy to tag along. We can be evil as needed and I doubt your people would like our cleansing...(and I already have a few ways to remove most of the FT/wankiness of our race)(and it'd be a lone sphere so being eventually defeated would happened if you got your acts together :) )

Examples: 1 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=581043) and 2 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583552&page=2)

what about me?

I'll do it

I have been longing for a thread like this in ages. I have just recently up-dated my military and I am very willing to partake as an invader. Being a dictorship helps with the evil side as well. One question is this seperate from the rest of II or will it have a knock on effect

Both of you need to read my OP more closely...

Perfect, SA. You're definitely accepted.

I assume your nation was swallowed up into the Great NS Abyss by some technical error?

Yeah, I let it die for more than a year, and when I came back my account had been deleted (hence the n/a posts and the new puppet) -- 'twas a great accounts purge that occurred sometime during my absence. Other people (Crimmond and Knootoss come to mind) suffered the same problem earlier as a result of a similar glitch.

Sorry about the mix-up,

The first RP i have ever joined, probably my best, my first post is number 85
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=582546&page=9


Ok here is a thread of one the invasions against me
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583899

right (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528357), examples (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=549634).

Sounds like a bad WW2 movie but ok im game.

Clouds were just beginning to pour out rain In the forests near the border of Freidlichen and with the rain came the German Zerabithean army which was getting ready to pore more than half a million (sorry if that looks wrong) troops into Freidlichen. Everywhere you looked men and supplies were getting ready for the attack, and the man leading them was general Leon Bopencap one of the best players in the game. Now only time will tell if anyone can defeat Zerabithea's top general.


Also when you retake your capital could we still fight? Since I think it would make things more interesting and maybe even start a NS world war(which would be totally awesome i might add).

WH, I'm sorry, but I'm not sure if your posts are quite detailed enough for our purposes. BC, everything on your end looks pretty good. If at all possible, though, would you mind using the Blackhelm Confederacy (as in the nation) rather than the Griffencrest Corporation?

And GZ, this is an interest thread...

Ok thanks for considering it, I can post in detail but have never had a sutible thread. However your RP i abide by your descision.

So while it doesn't say in your op, am I right in assuming this is mt and thats why your ignoring me?:(

Thanks, Wolf Hold. Seriously, I've seen people take rejection on these forums way to seriously, so it's nice to finally meet someone who can just shrug and move on.

EDIT: And whoops, yeah, sorry, it's MT. I didn't mean to ignore you.

By the way, if anyone would like to temporarily ally with Blackhelm to take me out and occupy me, that'd be perfectly alright. We still need two more people to eventually come to my defense as well.

That would be metagaming, actually.

Once I'm invaded, FBG will wire the full amount back to branch banks in Anghele.

I can come to your defense eventually, if you'd like. We're not really fond of people attacking neutral nations for no reason. I really don't want to search for actual representative examples of my writing when you should already know, though. Do I still have to?

Edit: I can saber rattle, at the very least!

I can come to your defense eventually, if you'd like. We're not really fond of people attacking neutral nations for no reason. I really don't want to search for actual representative examples of my writing when you should already know, though. Do I still have to?

Haha, no, don't worry about it, Santh. Welcome to the cliched party.

Yeah, you can put me in the defense party as well. *also, tag*

WH, I'm sorry, but I'm not sure if your posts are quite detailed enough for our purposes. BC, everything on your end looks pretty good. If at all possible, though, would you mind using the Blackhelm Confederacy (as in the nation) rather than the Griffencrest Corporation?

And GZ, this is an interest thread...

I know but since most of my war RP posts hear are from when i was not as good at it (I have been doing alot of off site RP's) I decided that i would just make a new one to show you.

Ah. I'm going to have to turn you down regardless, unfortunately. Thanks for your interest, though.

Hmm - well, at least my account will be safe in the branch banks I set up. Still, we'd probably be annoyed at the disruption, and would probably raise a small fuss. We'd also consider setting up some kind of mercenary force - at the very least, it would be worth it for field-testing our equipment and getting some practical combat experience for the Security Forces, plus we could get some stories that would sell well and could (ideally) win orders from the grateful restored government of Freidlichen.
In other words, I'll help out with the defense in the long run, and in a distanced way - the mercenaries would be hired by whoever decides to fight for you (if not just by Freidlichen itself), like, it would appear, any ordinary mercenary force. I don't want the Corporate Alliance breathing down my back - I've sold stuff to them, after all.

I admit I don't have much war RP experience, period. However, I can point you to some of my posts in this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578277) and to my involvement in this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=581073).

Fine by me, DC. Grab some champagne and join in the cliched patriotism.

Fine by me, DC. Grab some champagne and join in the cliched patriotism.

OOC: M.A.C | Defense can supply both the guns and the champagne for both sides :)

Santheres has better guns and better wine than you. :P

Edit: DC, we might hire some mercs to use as cannon fodder, if you don't mind the possibility.

Awesome. I'll set up the mercs once you get invaded, and they'll get organized in a couple weeks or so after the invasion begins. There will be some deniability, but Blackhelm will still probably realize what's going on.

Maybe you could throw in some sob stories, like what Kuwait did in 1990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurse_Nayirah)? It would be a nice little touch to throw in.

The mercs will probably be decent at small-unit operations, and rather good in urban environments, but large-scale operations will be clumsily handled. That'll be fun to figure out how to show...

Santheres, that would be fine by me, so long as we get to record our end. We'll mask it as an arms purchase, perhaps? Also, since you have an account with FBG, maybe the Freidlichers asked you (and other account holders) to help out?

DC, I have so many sob stories lined up it isn't even funny :D. I'm focusing on the lives of my citizens under the occupation and their daily hardships, as well as the hopelessness felt by the guerrillas and remnants of the military, so at times, this might seem a bit like a character RP.

I would be very happy to intervene in favor of Friedlichen and against Blackhelm. Very, very happy.

If you still need someone that is.

As for examples of writing, well I will dig a few up in a minute and edit the links in here.

No, no, don't worry about it. I know you can write, Manth. I'd be happy to let you in.

Hey what the hell? I had to give examples...not cool.

But anyway, I can use the BC army, but they are kinda benign, GC is the ones that cause problems. You wouldn't have the wanton rape and looting with the Confederate army.

I'll use either one though, if you prefer.

Hm. Well actually I was going more for the looting factor with an actual nation...maybe we could have Griffencrest sponsoring a buffer state who would do the invasion itself? There's tons of other "evil" nations who would love to get GC sponsorship for their own invasion; with benefits for the Corporation once the nation is under their control, of course

Now that I think about it though, aren't you under Allanean occupation? This is canton here, and it isn't a fluid-timed thread, so is that going to be kosher?

Hm. Well actually I was going more for the looting factor with an actual nation...maybe we could have Griffencrest sponsoring a buffer state who would do the invasion itself? There's tons of other "evil" nations who would love to get GC sponsorship for their own invasion; with benefits for the Corporation once the nation is under their control, of course

Now that I think about it though, aren't you under Allanean occupation? This is canton here, and it isn't a fluid-timed thread, so is that going to be kosher?

Not occupation, I can't sponsor piracy though.

But yea, that would be awesome, would it be ok if I RP'd some shitty neighbor of Friedlichen that Griffincrest convinces to conquer you?

Sure. Freidlichen's location isn't defined, so go with some murderous fascist/communist realm for dramatic effect :D.

alrightey! I'm kinda pumped for a nice, good ol'fashioned RP.

By the way, if anyone would like to temporarily ally with Blackhelm to take me out and occupy me, that'd be perfectly alright. We still need two more people to eventually come to my defense as well.

BC can get help from the CA

BC can get help from the CA

I was referring to a third person altogether, but yeah, I suppose. That would make GC's involvement public, though, so I doubt that would be all that viable.

Basically I'm just trying to relieve the situation where two people have to do all the posting.

EDIT: Freidlichen, not Leistung.

One more thing though, BC--is this puppet country going to be a radical state? Can I get some basic info so that I can make my first post?

let's make this puppet country an overly corrupt military dictatorship....Griffincrest trained and some Griffincrest equipment....dictator is making big money for this move....yes..yes I like this...

They will be using the Griffincrest Mercury, but also shitty Soviet tanks and the like, and will be mostly packing the G36E as a rifle.

Think I could get some stats on the NS-made equipment? Otherwise I'll just go with mostly Soviet/Chinese stuff plus the G36E, like you said. The equivalent of what a dictatorship today would have, I suppose.

All of the stuff that I use can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12639714&postcount=79)

So basically your army is their army (equipment-wise, anyways)? If so, all we need now is a name.

well, sort of, but instead of the Chariot they'll have shitty soviet tanks, instead of Spiculum, shitty soviet RPG, and a shitty Russian/Chinese airforce

and the name...hmmm....I'll leave that to you, doesn't matter at all for me

Alright. Breaking out the MiG-25's, I suppose?

Sounds good

How about Transmontaña? Think Franco's Spain or Salazar's Portugal, but more corrupt and more mountainous. Just a suggestion...

I like it

You're thinking a Spanish influence? I was thinking more along the lines of Zakarpat and a Russian influence, but I'm really quite open.

I'm thinking the Spanish one would make it more closly related to your Swiss like nation. Although a Soviet influence is cool too. In the end, it's all up to you when we get down to the details. Once you give me that, I can do big things.

Alright, then we'll go Spanish. No accent in the name, though--I don't want to be going to Wikipedia every time I want to spell it out...

haha alrightey, sounds good

Okay, Transmontana it is--I'll make the OP, but it'll be before the actual invasion commences, so I'll leave that to you.

wait wait! I like Zakrapat! Switch it, got a better idea with Zakrapat

Alright, but Zakrapat is a Russian word. Are you thinking Russian, or do you want it to be a Spanish nation with the Zakrapat name?

Russian people, sorry for the change.

Also, does it mean anything?

Erm, it does, but...I've honestly forgotten what it means :D. Anyways, post in the works.

yay!

And for anyone unaware, getting involved is as simple as issuing a statement once Zakrapat invades and sending mercenaries to fight on their side (I would prefer that Freidlichen fight this thing off on their own) either secretly or openly.

So, some of my people have the idea for mercs, with a plan lined up and all. It got rejected, due to corporate infighting and due to the fact that it was a distraction, but it exists. So, once you get invaded and send out your pleas for help (perhaps in the letter that says that you've transferred assets out of the country), we'll dust it off and modify as appropriate.

Also, meet Lee Jets, platoon leader and future mercenary. Oh, and the bank is a local credit union, not an FBG branch.

Wait, so what was the point behind the bank scene :p? To introduce a character, I suppose?

Also, Technonaut, I'm afraid I haven't agreed yet...I don't really think your writing quality is quite detailed enough for my tastes--nothing against you personally, but I'm going to have to turn your request down.

Yup. And to show off the character of how 'police' operations go in the Confederacy.

You might want to put a little OOC note at the top of that post--I literally scratched my head and said, "wha...?" when I read it. To someone who hasn't read this thread, it seems like you're beginning a completely new storyline :D

We would like to pillage your country. Someone please hire some Sortmarkers to do that. You can call it keeping order.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=585165

My only thread. However I have lurked and posted a little under other names.

Everything looks good from my end. You could either get BC (who is funding/supplying/egging on Zakrapat) to hire your men, or just come in as freelancers in a now ripe-for-the-taking nation. In fact, this all sounds pretty cool...maybe I ought to get a character RP going here too...ah, another time, perhaps.

Would I know any of your other names, do you think?

Eva Klaus is probably just providing a random sob story, but might end up signing up with the mercenary force I'll be assembling. They'd probably take her, despite her lack of military experience, for something.

Oh damn it, now it's too late for me to join. Previously I didn't, cause I was too busy Commie-hunting, but now that the IC thread is up...

Damn, should've applied sooner.

Everything looks good from my end. You could either get BC (who is funding/supplying/egging on Zakrapat) to hire your men, or just come in as freelancers in a now ripe-for-the-taking nation. In fact, this all sounds pretty cool...maybe I ought to get a character RP going here too...ah, another time, perhaps.

I will be doing mainly small unit posts that might have some character stuff, of course this does not mean anyone else has to. This would not be the nation as a whole going to war, instead it would be one or two strongmen and their personal forces. Either being hired to keep the local populace in line (by violent intimidation) or coming in by ourselves could work, but I would prefer the first if that is OK with you Blackhelm?

Oh damn it, now it's too late for me to join. Previously I didn't, cause I was too busy Commie-hunting, but now that the IC thread is up...

Damn, should've applied sooner.

EDIT: Wait, actually scratch what I just posted. It is too late :(

And Sortmark, that sounds fine. Perfect, in fact.

I have an embassy in Altenberg now (and am expected to have had it for anywhere between zero and six hundred years). Mostly for character RP purposes, because I like realism, so it will take a few weeks to mobilize everything during which SA proper won't be doing much.

Yeah, fine by me. I doubt Zakrapat (sp? I need to work on that name...) will be respecting diplomatic immunity laws either, so I recommend a subplot about either a siege (like you seem to be going towards) or a dash to the airport. It's obviously up to you, though.

Thinking I will wait some time before I start getting involved. Manth is not so nice a nation that it goes and puts out brushfire wars for no reason, so it will take connecting the dots leading back to Griffencrest to get us involved, and while that itself may not take too long there will still be all the logistical mess of an air bridge to sort out before any boots arrive on the ground.

Perhaps a preliminary post or two over the next few days.

Well, just for reference, I won't be getting involved until after the atrocities start (there will be atrocities, yes?). At that point, it'll probably be one or two Houses, with some DC mercs if they're still available, not the nation proper.

I'll launch the mercenary company in a bit, once I've broached the idea of more direct intervention to SCI (and gotten at least a lukewarm response).

Thinking I will wait some time before I start getting involved. Manth is not so nice a nation that it goes and puts out brushfire wars for no reason, so it will take connecting the dots leading back to Griffencrest to get us involved, and while that itself may not take too long there will still be all the logistical mess of an air bridge to sort out before any boots arrive on the ground.

Perhaps a preliminary post or two over the next few days.

Sure, sure, fine. I'd like to RP the resistance prior to retaking the capital as well, so that actually works out quite nicely.

Well, just for reference, I won't be getting involved until after the atrocities start (there will be atrocities, yes?). At that point, it'll probably be one or two Houses, with some DC mercs if they're still available, not the nation proper.

See above.

Ha. I did it to you again. :D

I'll launch the mercenary company in a bit, once I've broached the idea of more direct intervention to SCI (and gotten at least a lukewarm response).

Sure, but make sure you wait until the counterattack on the capital is about to begin.

I won't intervene immediately, but I will need to get things rolling on setting up the mercenaries - and on advertising in the expat community.

Oh, and this transfer request (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14564686#post14564686) for an auto purchase occurred the day after the war's start - it's just after the late-night meeting of the Board. Possible plot point, if you want to have difficulties processing it - or if you just want Herman Blau to ask for assistance for the war effort in his reply.

Actually, I realized that if I don't freeze everyone's accounts until the war is over, FBG is going to be ruined, and consequently, Freidlichen's only real international industry will be devastated forever.

I.e., bank freeze. Oopsy. It also serves as a real...motivator to get involved :D

And Sortmark, that sounds fine. Perfect, in fact.

OK that is what I will plan on.

I'll post an OOB here at some point, either this weekend or next weekend. More for my own sake than for the story itself, though it will help me get a good understanding of what I'm working with.

I will be doing mainly small unit posts that might have some character stuff, of course this does not mean anyone else has to. This would not be the nation as a whole going to war, instead it would be one or two strongmen and their personal forces. Either being hired to keep the local populace in line (by violent intimidation) or coming in by ourselves could work, but I would prefer the first if that is OK with you Blackhelm?

Yup, fine by me, Griffincrest is big in hiring foreign mercs/

All the participants [B]must be good writers. I cannot possibly stress this enough, and it's part of the reason I did this thread. If you're interested, reply here, along with an example or two of your writing, and please, for the love of God do not get angry at me if I give you a thumbs-down.
I really wish more threads required this.

I really wish more threads required this.

If I was an ass, I would have just put that in gigantic letters and skipped the rest of the paragraph :rolleyes:

Mind if the Tolvanic Royal Navy deploys a small task force to monitor the situation? I won't be deploying ground forces or getting involved directly though.

If I was an ass, I would have just put that in gigantic letters and skipped the rest of the paragraph :rolleyes:

So why didn't you?


:p

Great post, by the way.

Mind if the Tolvanic Royal Navy deploys a small task force to monitor the situation? I won't be deploying ground forces or getting involved directly though.

The countries involved are landlocked as far as I know (at least Freidlichen is).

Maps of both places would be helpful, if anyone has them.

Friedlichen is landlocked, by Zakrapat has a coastline. You mentioned Zakrapat waters, after all...

SCI - The thing is, we can't really go to war on our own; I need someone to hire (or at least 'sponsor') my troops. Perhaps someone in the Friedlichen government - either a guerrilla, a government official abroad at the outbreak of the war (perhaps visiting an FBG branch), or a government-in-exile - could contact and hire out my mercenary group once I formally announce it.

Neither has one, though Freidlichen has a general description in the factbook. Zakrawhatever was made up randomly.

Friedlichen is landlocked, by Zakrapat has a coastline. You mentioned Zakrapat waters, after all...
I assumed it did because Blackcrest mentioned landing ships there. I don't know how far it is from the coast to the Friedlichen border, or what the terrain is like, or anything though.

SCI - The thing is, we can't really go to war on our own; I need someone to hire (or at least 'sponsor') my troops. Perhaps someone in the Friedlichen government - either a guerrilla, a government official abroad at the outbreak of the war (perhaps visiting an FBG branch), or a government-in-exile - could contact and hire out my mercenary group once I formally announce it.
Actually, you could try to convince Sir Karajan to get one of his underlings to hire you. That would keep us from actually getting our hands dirty with a "police action" or "overseas combat exercise" or some other thinly-veiled diplomatic replacement for war for a little longer, give you at least some SARA/SAASF logistical support, and if anyone traces the mercs back to us our hands are clean because it was just some junior Crown Undersecretary acting without direct orders. :P

Ah, sneaky. To be fair about the mercs, I decided to have their announcement (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=585660) make them seem as un-mercenary as possible.

Sounds good. I like 'overseas combat exercise' the best of those excuses :P.

EDIT: I suppose David's staff is going to have to do a lot of reading up on politics in your country. Either that, or just propose it to Sir Karajan himself. Feel free to assume the latter occurred 'off-screen' if you just want to get things moving...

So why didn't you?

GTFO of here, Santh :p

Maps of both places would be helpful, if anyone has them.

Freidlichen is Switzerland, but I just don't have the heart to come out and say it. Altenberg is located where Zurich is, and there is a larger northern mountain range than the Swiss (Jura) one, but other than that, it's Switzerland.

As for Zakrapat, I have no idea. Ask BC, because all I did was come up with the name.

Friedlichen is landlocked, by Zakrapat has a coastline. You mentioned Zakrapat waters, after all...

^ This.

EDIT: Ah, and about the whole foreign intervention/mercenaries fighting for me thing, realize that the Crown Prince has committed suicide and the Prime Minister is in hiding somewhere (in the mountains, but you don't know that). There's no way to get in touch with anyone at the moment.

Hmm, Zakrapat is north of Zurich, since they pushed south through Altenberg. It's slavic-esque, with a population of 100 million. How about Slovenia, northwestern Croatia, eastern Austria, the Czech Republic and Bavaria? That gives some Slavs, justifying the names somewhat, while also somewhat fitting the rest of the geography of the nation.

Yeah, also since I said, "our neighbors to the north" about a bazillion times :D.

Since we've called them Russians, said they're speaking Russian, and all sorts of Russian crap, maybe we ought to just say that Zakrapat is a Russian blobby thing to the north? I can do a quick sketch if anyone really needs it.

Saevitian politics are .... interesting. :P There's the Crown, which holds most of the power, but the (large) royal family is made up of people who in other circumstances would be leading armies against one another -- uncles, aunts, cousins, and siblings of the current King, as well as the various noble families, who are trying to curry favour with the King so that he'll decide to marry one of their daughters and tie them to the Crown themselves. Thus, most of the responsibilities are actually fulfilled by the Secretariat, which is a large bureaucracy consisting in nearly equal parts of the aforementioned nobles and the nouveau-riche (a few of whom were granted titles by the Crown for their services), who hate each other. Sir Karajan is, in addition to Crown Secretary for Foreign Affairs, the leader of a wealthy Noble House and Earl of one of the major municipalities. It wouldn't take much research to reveal that he has a cousin, Ibram Viktor Karajan, Viscount of Money Island and Assistant to the Senior Undersecretary of Defense, whom he strongly dislikes. Ibram, working for the SoD as he does, also isn't terribly fond of Gerard's diplomacy shtick and much prefers the militaristic attitudes of other NS nations, so he'd be fine with hiring you to intervene, and contracting part of the Secretariat of Defense to help in whatever logistical capacity necessary. Officially, he'll write them off as headed for Altenberg to extract the Saevitian Ambassador and his entourage.

Which is another plotline I should post for.

Also, thanks for the info. [Saevitian Archipelago is a large collection of islands of amorphous location. Take New Zealand, slam the North and South Islands together, then drop Hawaii and the rest of the Pacific islands in, and move them all to a little bit south of the Falklands. Taking that into account, I'll project a distance of ~3500 nautical miles, or about six days' moderate sail, between Frederickstown (the Venice of the South) and Venice (the Frederickstown of the North), approximately where the Saevitian ships will maintain their embargo-in-force.]

Hmm, Zakrapat is north of Zurich, since they pushed south through Altenberg. It's slavic-esque, with a population of 100 million. How about Slovenia, northwestern Croatia, eastern Austria, the Czech Republic and Bavaria? That gives some Slavs, justifying the names somewhat, while also somewhat fitting the rest of the geography of the nation.

Wow, that is really, really weird...I was going to put it in almost exact same place.

okay I posted Hirdsmen entering the country. DC, maybe our two bands of mercenaries can get a grudge match going later on?

Certainly. Hell, forget later on - we'll fight with some of your Hirdsmen first, I'm thinking.

SCI - what intel would you have on possible threats to the extraction force? How many people need to be extracted? That'll let me know what the initial force size would be.

I'll probably be going in by helicopter, with most of the flying being done over presumably-neutral Italian lands. It's 361km on a straight flight from Zurich to Venice, by the way, for those who are curious.

We might have tried this one without your logistical support, except you'll get there well before us. We're stuck out in the Pacific, so starting from the South Atlantic gets you there quicker. Obviously, we'll be able to ship the choppers to airports in the region by air freight, then hide them in warehouses, but we'll have to wait for your ships to arrive before we have ships to land on. Plus, it's easier for us if you're handling the logistics.

CoDC - It's about 23 people. The ambassador and his family (4), the marines (12), Saevitian members of the staff (7) -- there were some Friedlicher members as well, but they chose to flee the area when the invasion started. There's a helipad in the embassy, so you can land there to load people on. As for threats -- it's in the middle of Altenberg, which is occupied by tank divisions and the like. Air support/escorts are going to be a must. (The K-39Ns attached to the blockade force are essentially sixth generation air superiority fighters, which can be fixed up with AtG armament on external hardpoints at the cost of some stealth, obviously.)

As for the blockade force, it's probably some 400-500 nm from the Venice area now, so yes, definitely closer. (Why didn't they extract the Ambassador from there? ... I dunno. No way to get back to Saevitia for a while, most likely.) The ACL is in fact an Aircraft Carrier, Light, although currently with a near-full complement (48 aircraft out of a maximum of about 52), but you can land there for sure. Expect about 24 hours more before they arrive though.

We'll be relying mostly on your fighters, then - for now, at least. We don't have much assets in the area, and we can't really do much from Italy. I won't need much air-to-ground munitions, however; the choppers I'll be using, 10 CAH-4 (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5603&view=findpost&p=3481651) assault helicopters (three empty for pickup and the other seven carrying a 51-man platoon (six choppers carrying the three 15-man squads, while the other one carries the six-man heavy weapons section)), carry those sorts of munitions.

I'm tempted to try to bluff my way through, at least on the way in. There's a decent number of different mercenary companies involved, and we might be able to claim we've been hired to take over the embassy. On the other hand, it's possibly easier just to rely on flying nap-of-the-earth and hope our countermeasures get us through. There's probably 10 pilots experienced enough to fly the CAH-4s in nap-of-the-earth...

We'll launch the operation at night, as soon as your fighters are in range to get to Altenberg and back.

By the way, if everyone could wait until they actually contact my government in some way (likely by way of contact within Freidlichen), I would suggest not actually landing mercenaries or troops. Otherwise I'm going to take it as an invasion attempt.

EDIT: Also, important--would anyone mind if I jumped the story ahead, say, two weeks? No one will be landing any troops until they can get in contact with me, and the mountain redoubts where my military and government is in hiding (none of you guys know that, obviously) won't be in contact with anyone for some time. This would allow me to form the beginnings of a resistance group so that someone can contact my government and to give me somewhere for Alois to go.

Just curious - do your redoubts have any airbases? Or at least airstrips? Also, what part of the country are they - are they in the east, near the border with Italy, perchance? That would be ideal - closer to the Adriatic, close to Italian airports like Bolzano, and close to rail links from Venice. As a private military company, we could probably justify sending our equipment and professionals by rail or by air to those places, with proper bribes to secure approval.

Well, technically, none of my troops are landing on your soil - they'll be landing on the embassy's helipad, which is S.A. soil. :P

Seriously, though, that sounds fine. We've been hired for counter-invasion work, but we'd strongly desire to talk with Friedlichen first before putting any plans into action. Plus, we'll need time to get our assets together and in the Adriatic.

My little time jump won't be in the next post, but it will certainly be in the one after that, so everyone still has time to get their forces together and introduced before contact is established.

The redoubt itself is fairly small and it's just southeast of Zurich (Altenberg) on the map, so unfortunately no, it's not near the RL Italian border.

EDIT: Also, important--would anyone mind if I jumped the story ahead, say, two weeks? No one will be landing any troops until they can get in contact with me, and the mountain redoubts where my military and government is in hiding (none of you guys know that, obviously) won't be in contact with anyone for some time. This would allow me to form the beginnings of a resistance group so that someone can contact my government and to give me somewhere for Alois to go.

Well may I ask about how long do you want the occupation to last, roughly? Should we be intervening very quickly (within a few weeks) to drive Zakrapat out, or would you prefer more of an actual period of occupation and fighting in Freidlichen before as it were the cavalry arrives?

I have been generally thinking to go with the latter myself, but if you are looking for an immediate intervention that is fine too; we can just adjust the competence of Manthian military intelligence as appropriate.;)

Yeah, the latter is pretty much what I was thinking as well--I'm making it more difficult than it really should be to get a message to the Prime Minister so that I can kill a bit of time.

Most likely, I'm far too late to get in on this, but I would certainly enjoy it. I'm a very, VERY sporadic NSer, I play for bursts, leave for a bit, then refound. I was actually just about to make a purchase from one storefront or another, and I'd quite enjoy being on the "oh hey, neutral nation needs help, let's go do that" side.

My post history has the last RP I participated in (which is unfortunately dead) and I do hope you find it satisfactory.

E: Oh, by the way, ignore some of my earlier posts, I was going through a "I'm so damn WACKY!" phase which has thankfully passed. I'm far more serious now.

Okay I posted again. Please tell me if this is working okay or if I should be doing anything else, and also if I can improve the writing. And also Blackhelm, I have posted a bunch of people being rounded up to use for forced labor for fixing the damage to the roads and stuff from the invasion, so that Zakrapat can get started on exploiting the country more effectively, because I thought that would be something you would probably need, but tell me if it would be better to do something different.

I am planning probably one more post with this little town and also will describe general activities around the country in it.

I'll try to get up a pre-timeskip post later tonight. If I don't manage, just assume the ships have arrived and are holding position about 5 nm from Z. waters.

Okay I posted again. Please tell me if this is working okay or if I should be doing anything else, and also if I can improve the writing. And also Blackhelm, I have posted a bunch of people being rounded up to use for forced labor for fixing the damage to the roads and stuff from the invasion, so that Zakrapat can get started on exploiting the country more effectively, because I thought that would be something you would probably need, but tell me if it would be better to do something different.

I am planning probably one more post with this little town and also will describe general activities around the country in it.


This works, I like it.

Sortmark, the forced labor thing is brilliant. I mean, not Edison brilliant, but more...NS brilliant.

Good idea, in short.

Part I of the embassy extraction posted. It's kinda short, and I think I'll be adding to it. The point is, ten assault helicopters are flying in, nap of the earth, through Friedlichen to the capital.

Most likely, I'm far too late to get in on this, but I would certainly enjoy it. I'm a very, VERY sporadic NSer, I play for bursts, leave for a bit, then refound. I was actually just about to make a purchase from one storefront or another, and I'd quite enjoy being on the "oh hey, neutral nation needs help, let's go do that" side.

My post history has the last RP I participated in (which is unfortunately dead) and I do hope you find it satisfactory.

E: Oh, by the way, ignore some of my earlier posts, I was going through a "I'm so damn WACKY!" phase which has thankfully passed. I'm far more serious now.

If you could just link me to that, as I, in my eternal laziness, cannot possibly be bothered to click more than one link in a minute.

If you could just link me to that, as I, in my eternal laziness, cannot possibly be bothered to click more than one link in a minute.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=559460

There you go.

@Blackhelm Confederacy: How are the missile launchers concealed on the tankers? And what kind of MiGs?

Responding now, although I'll leave out anything about the embassy until DC shows up.

@Blackhelm Confederacy: How are the missile launchers concealed on the tankers? And what kind of MiGs?

Responding now, although I'll leave out anything about the embassy until DC shows up.

My New Round I'm Going to Force/Ask you to Review. (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5735) :')

Don't you guys find it a little off that Leis seems to have left the RP entirely and it's still being carried on, when it was supposed to be almost entirely Freidlichen v. BC?

Wouldn't give up on Leistung just yet. It's only been like three or four days, no?

Next part is up. The Stinger got spoofed by a DIRCM (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7378626.html). I was tempted to let it hit the ambassador's chopper, but I'll leave that sort of mess for later. I don't think the choppers will make it out, but we'll see...

I don't mean give up on Leis -- I mean, well, this was primarily his thread. Being away a day or two (or seven, actually) isn't much an issue -- it's how much the RP has carried on without regard to his being away.

Yes, there is a lake facing the embassy row, according to Leis's embassy exchange thread -- presumably the analogue to Lake Constance, if Altenberg = Zurich. And I'd be mighty impressed if somebody put SAM launchers in a lake. :P

Geez guys, way to open up a sideplot while I was away... :D

Is the airborne convoy my choppers? Because mine actually look a bit like Hinds - similar design aesthetic for a similar role. The coloring would be different from that of Zakrapati choppers, though; we don't really know what paint scheme they use, nor would it matter much at night.

I wrote that post days ago, before any of that stuff happened, and they were in fact thought of with SA's choppers in mind. If yours look like Hinds, then they aren't those.

Ah. Fair enough.

By the way, just to clarify, Halbi doesn't know who fired the first shots; he just blames the foreigners because they're easier to blame. When he finds out who shot first, he'll be livid.

Geez guys, way to open up a sideplot while I was away... :D

Speaking of sideplots are you going to do another reply in Auferstanden?

I am working on another post and it will be up soon.

Speaking of sideplots are you going to do another reply in Auferstanden?

I am working on another post and it will be up soon.

Yeah, I sort of just showed the men who were taken in my last post. Maybe I'll so some sort of "from the women's perspective" post tomorrow morning...

Anyways, I'm also going to delve into the story of a collaborator who gives up families in hiding to the Sortmarkers (or Zakrapatians) for forced labor. That, or I'll go into one of the Freidlicher collaborators who actually oversees the forced laborers, but I think I like the former better.

I put another post up with a short reply for Altenberg and then another scene in Auferstanden. Leistung I guess the new post has a bit less for you to reply to than the other recent scene in Auferstanden, sorry.

*clears throat*

So, yes or no? May I take part or not?

Yes, yes, of course. Many apologies and whatnot.

It may be coming a bit late, but I only just noticed this. And the Empire of New Chalcedon has a long tradition of sticking its fingers into many pies....usually being on the winning side. Primarily, intelligence aid would be provided - the Empire's Fifth Bureau is one of the more effective espionage/sabotage organisations out there. But some logistical aid would be provided as well, and possibly mercenaries hired by the Imperial government as a form of deniable direct assistance.

May I join as a nation that would provide assistance (of varying forms of directness) to the rebels?

Yes, yes, of course. Many apologies and whatnot.

Good, good. Thank you. I'll first get myself up to date on the thread and then see if I can't get involved.

It may be coming a bit late, but I only just noticed this. And the Empire of New Chalcedon has a long tradition of sticking its fingers into many pies....usually being on the winning side. Primarily, intelligence aid would be provided - the Empire's Fifth Bureau is one of the more effective espionage/sabotage organisations out there. But some logistical aid would be provided as well, and possibly mercenaries hired by the Imperial government as a form of deniable direct assistance.

May I join as a nation that would provide assistance (of varying forms of directness) to the rebels?

Yeah, I guess, but try to keep the deployment somewhat small (as I'm sure you were thinking anyways). For future readers, this is the last person that will be accepted into the RP. After now, it's closed for reasons of...well, because I just can't keep up with my own story :D

Thank you.

Now to find the IC thread again.....

New Chalcedon, Schanze 02 is probably the best kept secret of the Freidlicher government. It's basically a hidden Führerbunker for Freidlichen, so I'm not really sure if you'd be able to find it out of the blue...

EDIT: By the way, my government should be in contact with everyone soon.

Good, good. Thank you. I'll first get myself up to date on the thread and then see if I can't get involved.

Good to have another member on the crew. After all we always need more foreign cannon fodder to take hits for the brave Manthian soldier!

...i mean...

although you might want to reconsider sending troops by sea to a nation with no coastline :P I believe air transport is going to be the rule of the day when we all get our interventions up and running, which leads to logistics even more complicated than normal.

although you might want to reconsider sending troops by sea to a nation with no coastline :P I believe air transport is going to be the rule of the day when we all get our interventions up and running, which leads to logistics even more complicated than normal.

Hah, didn't quite realize that, thanks for the heads-up. Looks like the good old ST-25 Handles and ST-40 Edges will be getting a workout. Think C-series aircraft. :V

Contact my government, eh, and we'll see if we can't work out a plan. Perhaps you bring in the heavy hardware to form a foothold at first, and I bring the support that's compatible with whatever you use? Of course, once we're up and running, we'll have even shares of the load.

Good to have another member on the crew. After all we always need more foreign cannon fodder to take hits for the brave Manthian soldier!

...i mean...

although you might want to reconsider sending troops by sea to a nation with no coastline :P I believe air transport is going to be the rule of the day when we all get our interventions up and running, which leads to logistics even more complicated than normal.

Unless we want to go the long way around - land along Zakrapat's Adriatic coast, then drive through the country until we reach Friedlichen. A bit impractical, to say the least... :P

But yeah, looks like someone will have to seize some airports.

I at least don't. The Adriatic coast is bad terrain to try an amphibious assault into and also since it's Zakrapat's only coastline and a short one at that, any such attack would be easy to predict and defend against. And besides, I don't want to have to occupy Zakrapat after the war (Balkan partisan lulz) and so would rather avoid actually going through and conquering it. I do have a basic plan for what I would want to do once I do intervene, but that is far enough ahead that it's more useful to sit back and watch developments. Leistung wants the country occupied for a fair amount of time, after all, and it's quite possible that by the time Manthian troops are on the ground the situation will be rather different from now.

I do have a minor question; I don't quite understand what the role of Italy is? DC are you RPing as located in Italy, or is it a NPC-nation being slightly RPed or what?

Perhaps I am losing reading comprehension in my old age...

I never said it was practical. More seriously, though, what is the endgame? Kick Zakrapat out of Friedlichen? End Griffencrest's ties to Zakrapat, somehow? Regime change - like Serbia in 1999, or like Iraq in 2003?

Italy is an NPC nation being very slightly RPed by me; the CoDC is based out in the Pacific. I was hoping to be able to use Italy as a staging ground, but that seems unlikely. It does have the potential for some interesting border tensions, but I strongly don't want to have Italy end up at war - it wouldn't be fair. Plus, it makes for entertaining conflict - the Confederates want to spark a war that the Italians won't fight, even as Zakrapat gets rather annoyed.

Italy, here, by the way, is a different Italy from that of RL - to wit, it didn't get involved in either world war (see Benedetto Mori's note, in which he refers to Italy's staunch neutrality since the Risorgimiento). Presumably it got the South Tyrol along with Venetia in the Austro-Prussian War.

For me, the ultimate goal would be to kick Zakrapat out of Friedlichen and end Griffencrest influence in Zakrapat. It seems to me that both goals would be well served if we could destroy the Zakrapat army in Freidlichen. The Griffencrest-friendly faction which is currently in control might be rather discredited by a humiliating defeat.

I'd be willing to stick some forces on the border to help with security after the war, ala South Korea currently, but no Manthian troops will be committed to any long term occupation of Zakrapat.

Threatening to shell/bomb Zakrapat should at least destroy morale. I would do that when I get involved, but Santheres is practically allergic to killing civilians and destroying homes.

Edit: Well, actually doing it would destroy morale. Threatening may cause a little dissension and make Zakrapatian troops concerned.

I will probably regret it later, but I'm interested in having a PDA hired by the possibly inevitable Stabilisation Force.

I am not clear, however, as to how a thoroughly disarmed populace is to effectively resist an occupying force.

I would do that when I get involved, but Santheres is practically allergic to killing civilians and destroying homes.

Pfff.

Anyways, yeah, my next post deals with a radio broadcast from the Prime Minster, leading to the Zakrapatians homing in on the signal (expected), and alerting foreign nations that there is in fact a government out there.

EDIT: Kaprany, unfortunately I closed a thread a page or so back. Sorry about that D:

Yeah, I sort of just showed the men who were taken in my last post. Maybe I'll so some sort of "from the women's perspective" post tomorrow morning...

Anyways, I'm also going to delve into the story of a collaborator who gives up families in hiding to the Sortmarkers (or Zakrapatians) for forced labor. That, or I'll go into one of the Freidlicher collaborators who actually oversees the forced laborers, but I think I like the former better.

I was just curious. Hirdsmen only need loot and women to be happy, the plot is extra :D

No need to apologize, I'll find other distractions.

Threatening to shell/bomb Zakrapat should at least destroy morale. I would do that when I get involved, but Santheres is practically allergic to killing civilians and destroying homes.

SA, despite maintaining a "nice" public face, has nothing against bombing cities and killing civilians in the interests of a strategic advantage, so long as it can find some way to defend it or at least keep the world media from finding out. Hence, its bombings, genocide campaigns, et cetera, are especially thorough on the rare occasions it does them. :P If denizens of the SA start to realize that the government's killed civilians, even civilians from another country far away who they never would have met, there could be internal dissatisfaction which the government can't solve just by holding a new election or having someone resign. As this is (OOCly) an interesting concept for a future RP, Zakrapatian civilians may well be out of luck this time. *nod*

Officially, Saevitia will be conducting joint combat exercises with elements of the Zakrapatian military, and will endeavour to convince Zakrapatian officials to back them up on this. If they refuse, Saevitia will make the offer to Italy. (Both offers will also contain extremely subtle -- but not that subtle -- veiled threats. :P) Our main role will most likely be naval/aerial support, as the ground forces are not large or powerful enough to act independently in liberation missions, and deploying them on such an "exercise" would send up red flags at home.

That would require most of his airgroup - 8 ex-Malaysian F-18s, 24 F-7Ns, and 12 A-4ARs brought out of mothballs. Not really something he wanted to do - especially since he had to cover that damn landing ship.

"What was I thinking?" Ken asked aloud. "I've got barely a battalion of naval infantry, without even any tanks! Plus, Friedlichen's inland anyway. Well, at least the troops are sufficiently lightly-equipped to be airliftable - if we could get the Italians to cooperate."

Once Stabistan gets mixed up in the inevitable clusterfuck to come, they'd gladly help airlift things in. After all, they have a fleet of Strat-lift cargo planes ready to go, so as soon as they get their OWN troops and such into Freidlichen or Zakrapat, they'd probably be more than willing to assist.

The airlift division of the Stabistani Air Force and Army Air Force is quite the hodgepodge, they have everything from modified Antonovs to C-27J variants and Airbuses. It's hell for mechanics and supply, but it DOES allow them a great versatility, and one of they first things they do with planes they buy (at least transports) is swap out the engines for something. For example, the ST-25 is a modified C-160 with counter-rotating props but it has the Stabistani AJ-462 turboprop engine which is standard on all planes its size. Same thing goes for jet turbines, they're standard for all planes of a certain size/carrying capacity.

So yeah, they loves them some transports, but they love their interceptors and CAS aircraft equally. They especially love their SAH-92 Harpoons. You'll be seeing those delightfully eeeeebul choppers soon enough.

Military logistics people will probably do a better job than corporate logistics people, so I'll probably end up taking you up on the offer, rather than just using my air freight corporation, UAF.

I also intend to show off why some of my ships are rather underpriced for their size. I'm redoing most of my ships, anyway...

Perhaps the Freidlicher insurgents could be encouraged to focus on capturing a few airfields, or building scratch ones out in the countryside? The eventual bottleneck will be in runways, not in aircraft, if we are going to have four or five countries sending in troops and materiel by air.

How are we contacting the insurgents, by the way? I really want to start broadcasting radio propaganda to urge resistance to the invaders of Friedlichen, so it would be nice to figure out what, precisely, to broadcast. We'd broadcast from international airspace, using my PC-15s. Ideally, we'd frustrate the Zakrapatis enough to get them to attack the planes - giving us justification to intervene more directly, by, say, retaliating against the airbases from which the attack came.

I don't know about the insurgents in particular, yet, but it should be simple enough to broadcast propaganda over the country in general and I'm sure such broadcasts would make their way to the resistance one way or another.

Any more secret messages for the insurgents (plans, requests, etc) would have to be through other means, but that's should take care of itself eventually.

True, I'm more interested in what to say. I do have a number of FBG employees (along with, presumably, other emigres working abroad, teaching German and doing other such things) in-country, so I can come up with suitable language from them.

As for secret messages, the hawk crows at midnight; embed them into the radio broadcasts, BBC-style. Makes everyone into a possible agent of the Resistance. Also, parachute in spies. Do subversion, SOE-style. Set Europe/Friedlichen Ablaze! ;)

Oh I assure you I will be parachuting in far more than spies :D

Defense Corporations, I fear that the Hirdsman who shot that helicopter down is... poetically inclined. But take heart and bear through the present suffering: the defeat of your helicopters may be immortalized in epic verse!

Awesome. Russians can get poetic, including descendants of White Russians - especially when drunk. Any chance Eirik might slip the 'prisoners' some alcohol?

Poor Ivan - he's going to have to translate everything from their conversations - once they get more complex, anyhow. There's enough names and similar words that Kim could probably piece together Ivan's family history from the context. Maybe we'll have to teach Eirik some English? ;)

Awesome. Russians can get poetic, including descendants of White Russians - especially when drunk. Any chance Eirik might slip the 'prisoners' some alcohol?

No chance. On the other hand he might give them some openly and dare Zakrapat soldiers to say anything. By right of war these are his prisoners (according to him).

Poor Ivan - he's going to have to translate everything from their conversations - once they get more complex, anyhow. There's enough names and similar words that Kim could probably piece together Ivan's family history from the context. Maybe we'll have to teach Eirik some English? ;)

What when his English is so good already?

(yes).

Haha. Damn - I should've had Lee's chopper get shot down. Now the prisoners are going to get better-characterized than the guy I set up at the beginning! Oh well; there'll be time for him later.

There's probably going to be some interesting disputes between the Zakrapatis, the Griffencrest people, and your Hird.

If the Vikings taught us anything it's that you shouldn't let minor details like being on the same side get in the way of a good fight.

There's probably going to be some interesting disputes between the Zakrapatis, the Griffencrest people, and your Hird.

I look forward to this.

Perhaps the Freidlicher insurgents could be encouraged to focus on capturing a few airfields, or building scratch ones out in the countryside? The eventual bottleneck will be in runways, not in aircraft, if we are going to have four or five countries sending in troops and materiel by air.

How are we contacting the insurgents, by the way? I really want to start broadcasting radio propaganda to urge resistance to the invaders of Friedlichen, so it would be nice to figure out what, precisely, to broadcast. We'd broadcast from international airspace, using my PC-15s. Ideally, we'd frustrate the Zakrapatis enough to get them to attack the planes - giving us justification to intervene more directly, by, say, retaliating against the airbases from which the attack came.

Yeah, the way to contact the government now would be to home in on the radio broadcast and somehow get spies inside the resistance network to eventually reach the Prime Minister.

Well, we've got the radio frequency, and are already broadcasting (based on suggestions from Friedlichers abroad). Someone else can do the actual insertion.

I'm not exactly sure what the Friedlichen Freedom Fund actually does, yet. Perhaps it's what's paying for GPI's eventual intervention in Friedlichen (separately from the Saevitians)? Perhaps it's something else.

Bump for Freidlichen - we have a fight in Auferstanden that's been frozen since page 4, isn't it time to move it a little?

Every resistance movement needs its martyrs after all, you're depriving the Freidlichers of theirs! How are word-of-mouth stories about how Hans spat in Varg's face while the Hirdsman crushed his throat, or how Alois remained defiant even after Adolph nailed him to a door by the ears going to spread across Freidlichen and inspire resistance if Alois, Varg, Hans and all the others remain frozen in an eternal moment on page 4?

Meanwhile, what's going on with the stuff at sea?

Meanwhile, what's going on with the stuff at sea?

Waiting on SCI/Saevitia for that.

Aye, I was in the UK for a few days, but I'm back now! Yay!




....Aren't you going to celebrate? Confetti, streamers, presents?




Darn. I'm going to go drown my sorrows in brownies now. Mmm, brownies.

Hmmm. To keep things straight, I'm going to set down the orbat for this particular anti-piracy squadron (and encourage others to do likewise if they haven't already, or link to posts if they have).

1x Athens Class ACL -- Chennai
-------- 12x K-39N/42 Gryphon [ASF]
-------- 12x K-35 Sealion [strike fighter]
-------- 12x Ri-19 Pavua [UCAV]
-------- 3x Ri-7 Firefly-N [AEW/ELINT]
1x Barrett Class CMN -- Saarti
1x Kelgan Class CML -- Redstone
2x Phaethon Class DS -- Lai, Morsava
-------- 4x V-79 Delian [ASW helicopter]
2x Viktor Class EM -- Faenixi, Isaak Martola
1x Graeme Class RCG -- Venaísa
1x Cloud Class QC -- Mano Varaínn's Spirit
1x Veldarain Class PDMH -- Icthys Three
2x Kiel Class STK -- Novik, Sareva

12 ships and 43 aircraft
total marine complement: 281 enlisted, 35 officers
(it would normally be 270/34, but the squad from the embassy is there too)

As much to remind myself as anyone else.

[classification:
A - Aircraft Carrier
B - Battleship
C - Cruiser
D - Destroyer
E - Destroyer Escort
F - Littoral Combat Ship
G - Corvette
L - Landing Ship
P - Patrol Boat
Q - Hospital Ship
R - Resupply/Logistical Ship
S - Submarine]

1xAC-12 class -- Shokaku
---8 F-18, 24 F-7N, 12 A-4AR, 2 C-62NA, 4 SH-4
3xDDH-30 class -- Independence, Perseverance, Forbearance
---10 SH-4 each
4xNakhoda Ragam class corvette -- Nakhoda Ragam, Jerambak, Gunung Ledang, Bendhara Sakam
---1 S-70B each
1xHS-12 class corvette -- Corregidor
---2 SH-4
1xEndurance class LPD -- Endeavour
---2 CH-4, 2 landing craft; Fourth Battalion, Second Regiment, Second Brigade
4xAS-709 subs -- Opalfish, Koheru, Hapuku, Fleshfish
5xSS-13 supply ships -- Confederacy Maru, Mitsubishi Maru, Chrysanthemum Maru, Tokyo Maru
---3 CH-46E each

Fourth Battalion:
I-III Companies (each landing in its own landing craft)
8 officers & staff, 2 CV-2313 & 2 drivers
A-C platoons - three 8-man squads (6 riflemen, 1 LMG gunner, 1 squad marksman), a 5-man heavy weapons section (1 LMG gunner, one 2-man MANPADS team, one 2-man man-portable ATGM team), and 1 platoon leader
Infantry
IV-V Companies (landed by landing craft once the infantry are landed)
6 NJ2046-AT vehicles, each with 2 crew; AT
VI Company (amphibious)
3 Bronco MTC mortar carriers, each with 4 crew; artillery
VII Company (landed with IV & V companies)
3 HIMARS MRLs, each with 3 crew; artillery
VIII Company (heliborne)
2 CH-4, 8 crew; logistics/medevac

Hmmm. To keep things straight, I'm going to set down the orbat for this particular anti-piracy squadron (and encourage others to do likewise if they haven't already, or link to posts if they have).

Good idea, and in my initial post regarding my fleet I buggered up the ship organization and left one out (The Doloire). *facepalms at self*

1x Brenigrad-class carrier - Arit
--------12x FC-51 Bardiche [Fighter-bomber]
-------- 18x FS-29 Falchion [Multirole interceptor/fighter]
-------- 10x SH-42 Seaknife [Multirole helicopter]
--- 3x Albatross ASW planes

1x Broadsword MSB - Broadsword
2x Typiev Gate-class CGNs -- Colichemarde, Crossguard
1x Oirev-class CG - Doloire
3x Watcher-class DDGs --- Scythe, Sickle, Spear
2x Hielaman-class support ships-- Harpe, Hilt
2x SS-47 Attack subs -- Ulu, Palstave

12 ships and 49 aircraft (All but the Arit, subs, and Destroyers have their own Seaknife)
3,859 men in total, not including the around a platoon and a half of Marines and pilots. Jeeb.

Also, I based the numbers off of real ships, trimmed down a bit. Stabistan looooooves cutting down on crew size and increasing the amount of things that can be made simpler via computers, but of course they shield the hell out of everything to keep EMP from ruining their shit. CGNs, CG, DDGs, the upcoming new British carrier QE class, the 1980s-era Iowa, etc. etc.

E: MSB stands for modernized strike battleship.

E2: And that's my current deployed force for this particular engagement, once things get hairy, the air force will decide to say hello, followed by the Marines, and Army once we have a foothold in the area to land them, be it airfields or ports, etc etc

I (Test Pilot) Wing, Bolzano
50 F-21 air superiority fighters
5 F-21T (spares)
1 A400M operated by UAF (logistics)
3 C-15F tankers (fuel)

II (Support) Wing, Venice
12 PC-15 (PsyOps)
12 C-15F (tankers)
24 C-15 (cargo)
6 C-15A (AEW&C)
3 C-15ABM (airborne battlefield management - coordinates ground combat operations)
12 F-7 (interceptors)

III (Fighter) Wing:
72 F-21
8 F-21T
3 C-15F
1 A400M
2 C-15A

IV (Strike) Wing:
24 FA-21
24 EF-21
5 F-21T
15 AC-15 gunships
9 AC-62 gunships
3 C-5B (operated by UAF)
3 C-15C (operated by UAF)
2 C-15A
4 C-15F

I'm going to try to finish this up, so if all parties interested in the resistance could make contact with resistance leaders in Zwickau (presumable spies would have informed you of this) who will then pass on plans to the Prime Minister and remains of the military, that'd be great. I'm going to be trying to retake Altenberg within an IC week or so.

That'll be quick, but yeah. Can do...

Since everybody else is doing it:

CVBG Tripolitania:
1 Ark Royal class CVN (Tripolitania)
2 Admiral class CRSG (strike cruiser)
2 Town class CRG (air defense cruiser)
7 Type 38 DDG
2 Cartagena class SSN
2 AOR (it's a long trip)

4 more similar CVBGs are on the way currently, but from one to a few days out.

Some notes on GPI's role in the engagement: my task force is probably best-suited for ASW work. It's got 3 ASW destroyers, 36 ASW helicopters, and four submarines. Still, if it had been managed better, it might've acquitted itself better in the exercise. I intentionally played it as a bit too aggressive, a bit too willing to risk assets unnecessarily (from the AEW planes to the Opalfish's run to the corvettes to the attempted air strike). After all, to Lau et al, it was only an exercise...

this is an edit.

I have posted. Since we are wrapping up, I will fluid time the Hird's actions ahead by a month or two in the next post (I think Auferstanden is still way behind time), and give a general description of what has been happening over that time.

Bump here so as not to clutter the IC thread...

Yeah, sorry about the delays...I've been on vacation, but I should be able to throw something up there soon. Unless we've all lost interest, of course.

SCI, Friedlichen, New Manth, Stabistan - TG.
I'm definitely still interested, just not exactly sure how to proceed. I may do another post from the emigre community in the CoDC.

The noble, fiercely bearded Russo-Scandinavian warriors are always first to answer the call to arms!

Image (even complete with beards! All you have to do is pretend it's Norwegian and Russian slogans instead of Spanish ones written on the truck):

http://pro.corbis.com/images/AAJZ001060.jpg?size=67&uid=%7B932D6EC3-A17D-4449-8116-D19A07FAF110%7D

So I did as I said and made a big, very general post to fluid time ahead to the present time, with the occupation starting to feel insurgent pressure and the local do-gooders about to get their act together. Because it's large in scope I made a number of assumptions and took some liberties. If there is anything someone would like me to change please mention it.

Still going to continue Eirik's and Auferstanden's past stories via fluid time if the rest of you want to. I like the small scale stuff more (this post is only to play catch up) and so I'll be going back to that scale in any case from now on.

My next post should answer everything about how to proceed insurgency-wise. I have a series of ridiculous tests right now, and I'm sorry about not posting.

Apologies for the delay in responding to the TG.

Been a tad busy lately and plus I just forgot to check this thread.

Oh, and can we in the exercise detect the actual weapons fire that's happening between the Manthians and the freighters?

To Saevitia: If we can't and instead continue the exercise, I need to know how far we are from each other. I know the range of the Broadsword's main guns but I'm not sure if you're within it.

The actual weapons fire depends on how close you are. I assume you could detect the helos and such moving around, including the one that disappeared into the water.

I suppose it's also likely you could detect the big explosion from the helicopter that was shot down and crashed on deck.

IC post comes sometime in the next few days. It's that time of semester....

Any 'dead' ships could easily communicate with my 'dead' ships and find out; we're patched into the Manthian communications grid, so we know what the Tripolitania knows.

True enough. So you can also hear the helicopter pilots going all "oshit" and such.

Post up, though its a bit rushed.

Gonna be prty busy for the next week or so, expect posting delays.

It is the end of the semester and all, and I have way too much work that I let build up, as usual.

baaaaack...

BC remember those torpedoes headed towards the non-boarded tankers. Any chance that your mercs will surrender when they realize that if they 'win' against the boarding party (by killing all the Naval Infantry) they are effectively removing any motivation not to torpedo their ships as well?

Anyway posting happening shortly

I'm basically waiting on Sortmark for the conclusion of part of the storyline, and BC for the effects of the unofficial military blockade. Just as a heads-up.

Speak of the devil and he shall appear.

A post for Auferstanden is up for now. Larger post next time - I appreciate the special considerations shown to any Hirdsmen in rebel captivity.

Defense Corporations, about your OOC question, Eirik will eventually write a letter asking for a prisoner price to be paid for returning them. I will post about that and other things within the next day or two.

Stabistan, since when has mining international waters ever been illegal? It's certainly legal IRL as long as you are in a state of conflict. What you're legally required to do is to simply announce the mining in order to give neutral shipping the chance to avoid the area.

You aren't allowed to mine shipping lanes in peacetime, but as BC put it,

OOC: New Manth, you just caused a war my friend.

During wartime naval mines have quite often been placed in the other guy's waters (in harbor mouths and the like), let alone in international waters.

During wartime naval mines have quite often been placed in the other guy's waters (in harbor mouths and the like), let alone in international waters.

Looks like my memory has failed me again, that all melted together into what I thought.

Yea, but mining the main entry to the Mediterranean? Think of the massive economic backlash that will cause.

A post for Auferstanden is up for now. Larger post next time - I appreciate the special considerations shown to any Hirdsmen in rebel captivity.

The Hirdsmen are the ultimate bad-ass villains :D

Yea, but mining the main entry to the Mediterranean? Think of the massive economic backlash that will cause.

*Shrugs*

Not my problem :D

Defense Corporations, about your OOC question, Eirik will eventually write a letter asking for a prisoner price to be paid for returning them. I will post about that and other things within the next day or two.

This is done now. Since I am having Eirik leaving, we can either assume that a ransom is eventually paid and you can get your people back, or we can do a whirlwind tour of Sortmarker Kiev (maybe in a new thread?)

BC, I am not sure whether you wanted to interrogate them more or anything, if so, you can probably assume that there was plenty of time to do everything fluid timed before Eirik leaves.

Hi,

So I'm kinda waiting on anyone who had their fleets there to reply before I do anything. Freidlichen, I will be sending in the cavalry though. Figure I will give it a few more days and then just assume any discussing/planning that was to be done was done and you all can come in whenever they get the time to post, if you like?

BC btw I really would like to wrap up the last tanker though... waiting on a post from you. Or could we just assume it and whatever is left of the crew eventually gets captured with however many casualties?

Bump again. Otherwise will go on ahead on Monday or such