NationStates Jolt Archive

TO: The Dominion of Strator
CC: Clientele of the Dominion of Strator
FROM: Office of the Warmarshal of the Protectorate of Lyras

On the 17th of November, two years ago, the Lyran Protectorate issued the Dominion of Strator with a very clear, unequivocal warning. Our resolve remains unchanged. Our strength has only grown. Once more, one final time, we voice our call.

The Dominion of Strator is thusly and hereby REQUIRED to begin such legislative, judicial or administrative procedures as are necessary to bring about THE COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISSOLUTION of slavery as an institution, in all its forms, within one month of the issue of this statement.

To those states that look to the Dominion for satisfaction of the dishonourable avarice that calls for the unconscionable exploitation of those stripped forcibly of their freedom, we say this;

We desire not the death of the dishonourable, but that they should turn from their dishonour, and live. Do not mistake our graciousness and patience for hesitancy. We stand in defence of the weak undaunted, and are honourbound to act, or else cast the Protectorate to the mire of history as the worthless sham of itself that such cowardice would reveal it to be.

Failure to end such trade in human life will force the Protectorate to employ such measures as are needed, to bring about that resolution. We will not allow you to wallow in your mammonite contempt for sentience, and all that entails, nor permit by our inaction the spreading rot that your despicable lack of a conscience propogates. You will end slavery. Or Lyran guns will end it for you.

One month.

Leon Krell
Warmarshal of the Protectorate
Bredubar
Protectorate of Lyras

Message to the protectorate of Lyras:
From: Strator

In all humbleness, I request that this ultimatum is revoked. I feel such an ultimatum is unjust, the demands made unnecessary and I take personal offense in your imposing of them upon me.

The men and women who are sold as forced laborers are murderers, rapists, such persons found to be guilty in a Stratorian court of law for crimes which would otherwise be met with capital punishment.

I find capital punishment to be a detestable practice, one that by all means should be abolished. The wasting of a life, under any circumstances is a tragedy, as I am sure you would agree. What is more, should evidence be misinterpreted, or should someone bear false witness, and we were to find this out only after punishment has been dealt, there is no going back. No matter how good a forensics team is employed, there will always be a mistake made at some point, and the finality of the punishment becomes all too clear. What good does a person serve should they die, do they learn anything? No, I would say they do not, at least nothing which may be implemented into improving their own and other people's lives. Prison is also an undesirable practice, it takes up space and resources while prisoners are doing nothing in return for society, its only merit is that it provides a larger window to revoked a sentence.

forced labor is a viable alternative, it provides the large window in which new evidence can be found a sentence revoked and it means that criminals give back to society. Criminals can learn from the experience, so that when they are freed, as there is a maximum sentence of 50 years but it is generally less, they may become better and more productive members of society. Nobody has to die, conditions are not bad, at least no worse than in prison. All criminals upon being found guilty of a crime which warrants forced labor, they are given a choice of sentence, the death penalty still is an option for them.

Strator is fairly crowded and is unable to sustain an excessively large criminal population under a forced labor sentence. Rather than executing them, why not make them repay society in another way. All money made from the sale of forced laborers or "slaves" is given as reparations to the victim parties of their crimes and to bettering the society through the improvement of social equality and infrastructure.

These laws are supported by the people and government of Strator, and by myself. To impose your own morals and ethics upon us is unjust and in conflict of the sovereign rights of Strator. If you do not revoke this ultimatum, then my next request will be less humble, and less friendly.

In all sincerity,
Augustus Stratorius Rex III
Lord Archon of the dominion of Strator

From: Jala Soma
To: Lyras

i have to say that i must defend Strator on this case, his nation os not part of the World Assembly, therefore his country is free to sell slaves as his laws say so. please be careful before you accuse someone of a case so severe.

signed,
Jala Soma, president of the Federation of Jalanat

From: Jala Soma
To: Lyras

i have to say that i must defend Strator on this case, his nation os not part of the World Assembly, therefore his country is free to sell slaves as his laws say so. please be careful before you accuse someone of a case so severe.

signed,
Jala Soma, president of the Federation of Jalanat

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Official Communique

To: The Protectorate of Lyras
From: Dwight McArthur, Prime Minister Of Ustio North
CC: Jala Soma, President of the Federation of Jalanat, Lord Archon of the dominion of Strator
RE: 'Slave Traders'

Both myself and many fellow members of my nation - no, my fellow human beings - are disgusted that these industries are even allowed to be formed in the first place. The Protectorate of Lyras has the full support of the United Kingdom in this situation

Sincerely,

Dwight McArthur,
Prime Minister

OOC: I'm not sure how many times we have to say this, but over on NS, the WA has power. But you're not in NS now, you're in II, where the WA has jack shit. It has no power. Whether he's a member or not, doesn't mean he can sell slaves and expect to get away with it with no consequences.

OOC: well then you are just a jackass who won't even allow people to just play a friggen game!
sorry for the cursing i just had to get it out of me.

OOC: well then you are just a jackass who won't even allow people to just play a friggen game!
sorry for the cursing i just had to get it out of me.

OOC: I'll let that one fly, for now. But only because you're new

TO: The Dominion of Strator
FROM: The Department of Foreign Affairs of Kedoshim

It is disgusting that you are running an open slave trade industry. The fact that your slaves are rapists and killers may not have an effect on you, but it does on your clients. You state that you do not believe in wasting anothers life, yet you send killers and rapists to others. Cease now before a more serious ultimatum is laid out for you.


Sincerely,
Sergei Kuznetsov
Chairman of Foreign Affairs

The Colony of Ollieland joins Lyras and crookfur in their wholesale condemnation of the Stratorian practice of slavery. Stratorian membership, or lack thereof, of the World Assembly or any iother international organisation should not and will not act as a brake on our condemnation of such abuse of basic human rights. Ollieland stands with Lyra and adds it's own weight to their ultimatum to Strator to cease such barbarism.

Governor Connie Chung

Foreign Ministry of the Free Republic of Lamoni

To: Strator
CC: Lyras, International Community

Re: Slavery Ultimatum

It has always been the policy of the Free Republic of Lamoni to deplore the practice of forcing sentients into hard labor, while taking away their free will; also known as slavery.

Thus, we stand with our Lyran Battle-Brothers to support the Lyran ultimatum to Strator. If slavery and the slave trade have not been abolished within Strator in one month, then Lamonian troops will aid Lyran troops in forcibly ending this scourge upon the face of man.

One Month.

Signed,

Tanya Ley
Foreign Minister
Free Republic of Lamoni

THE ARMED REPUBLIC OF NACHMERE | Foreighn Affairs Department

Honorable Warmarshall Krell,

The tiny and young Armed Republic of Nachmere would like to sound it's support of your call for an end to slave trading.
While we obviously can not assist in military action (we are far too small a nation),
we will be happy to assist in any other way that will be possible.

If fighting dose start, we will send our Parliemntry Guards to assist with spcial operations and recce missions. They are a small unit, but they will fight to the last man if needed.

Dan Gonesh, Secretary of Foreighn Affairs,
on behalf of the people of Nachere.

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Official Greali Statement
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

To: The Protectorate of Lyras, the Dominion of Strator
Encryption Level: None
Subject: Slave Traders

Let it be know the Imperial Republic of Greal fully backs Lyran ultimatum to end slavery and the slave trade. If necessary, we intend to back it with force. We are disgusted that such barbarism exists in Strator.

Signed,

Martin Watson
President of Greal
Imperial Republic of Greal

TO: Augustus Stratorius Rex III, Lord Archon of the Dominion of Strator
CC: States and individuals concerned with the current slavery-related situation
FROM: Office of the Warmarshal of the Protectorate of Lyras

Archon

None on this earth do I call Lord, least of all those who make themselves less than men by their abhorent actions. You claim you act by right of sovereignty, in just accordance with your laws. This, we proclaim to all who hear, is a mockery of both concepts.

While sovereignty is the oft-abused shield by which nations commit the most heinous of barbarities, here, in your own words, do you reveal the sham that such a position truly is:

In Strator, all major offenses previously given a capital punishments (such as talking too loud, looking lost and murder) have been re-evaluated. It is now deemed more beneficial to society if these persons serve a rehabilitation sentence of hard labor for no pay.

Further, your ghastly resort to cruel and unusual punishment, over and above the crime that is slavery, is also revealed for all to see. Let your own words condemn you:


2) Compliance devices
Shackles X 100: US $ 150
Whips X 100: US $ 75
Cat of nine tails X 100: US $ 200
Assorted torture device pack: US $ 200

3) Slave food
Gruel X 500 servings: US $ 1000
Bread X 500 servings: US $ 1000
M.U.R.K (Mixed Unidentified Road Kill) X 500 servings: US $ 500

You decry common humanity, and deny the intrinsic value and worth of all mankind. We, and those who stand freely with us, will not permit this to continue.

Time is passing.

Leon Krell
Warmarshal of the Protectorate
Bredubar
Protectorate of Lyras

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Diplomatic Directorate - Official Communiqué

From: Dr. Michiko Flax, Director General, Diplomatic Directorate of the Unitary Technocracy of Etoile Arcture
To: Len Krell, Warmarshal, Protectorate of Lyras
Classification: Restricted, Eyes Only
Subject: Slavery and human trafficking by Strator

I write to you to express the broad support of the Unitary Technocracy towards the position taken by the Protectorate of Lyras against the henious crimes being committed by the Strator state against its citizens.

While it is not our policy to threaten or to use force to change the internal affairs of another nation, should the Protectorate of Lyras be attacked by Strator or any of its client states the Unitary Technocracy will offer its military support and aid the Protectorate of Lyras in this dispute.

We hope that other nations will also join this worthy cause to stamp out the scourge of slavery and human trafficking. The Unitary Technocracy has declared its own sanctions against Strator and trade embargo. Any vessels of Strator origin found in the open seas by our Maritime Forces will also be stopped and searched, and if found holding slaves the crews prosecuted according to international law.

/signed/ Michiko Flax

Official communiqué from the Birkanian goverment
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From: High General Viktor Yulianov - Leader of the Birkanian Nation
To: All parties involved
Classification: Not Classified. Not Encrypted.
Importance: Medium
Subject: Ultimatum

The Birkanian Confederacy cannot tolerate this insulting, inhuman type of commerce. We fully back up Lyras.

To: The Lyran Department of Foreign Affairs

From: East Congaree Executive Office


With East Congaree re-instituting slavery amongst rebel blacks after a massive uprising, we dissaprove of your decision to attempt to outlaw slavery in nations other than your own. God says that slavery is not wrong, so it isn't.


-Reginald Deere

To: Nations against slavery
From: Cerska CEO Ron Phillip
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Rest assured, that although we purchased 500 male 'slaves', they will be treated with the same values as regulare Cerska employees, and will be paid at minimum wage while they work in the Cerska Company mines.
We did not want to send out own workers, becuse the land is an old nuclear testing site, and is still irradiated.
Any "slave" that is still employed with Cerska by the end of 10 years will be given a set income for life, along with free healthcare.

Note: Death causes a termination in the employe contract, and the deceased worker is fired.

Regards,
Ron Phillips

To: Whom it may or may not concern
From: Ministry of Diplomacy
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The Afrikaan Diplomatic Ministry notes and approves the condemnation of all slave trading states. It is inhuman to sell an individual's soul. However, Emperor Kojemal and his staff would like to emphasize that "Lyran guns" should not be employed, but rather diplomatic sanctions.

Official Statement
Denomination of Foreign Diplomacy

As our friends and allies in Lamoni have committed to support the Lyran declaration, that declaration likewise meets with the full approval of the Greater Economic Union. Any military conflict involving Lamoni will be a conflict that likewise involves the Union.

That said, were Manthian allies not involved the Union would still fully support the declaration of Lyras. Slavery is an institution that in the modern era ought only to inspire disgust, and a government which not only allows people to be held in slavery within its borders but sells its own citizens into bondage for profit is shameful and despicable, and should be overthrown.

To: Nations purchasing slaves
From: Cerska CEO Ron Phillip

It has come to my attention that many of you are spending millions on disicpline and punishment on your slaves, aka "non-wage workers"
Cerska offers mercinary contracts that, if you accept, will mean you save money!
Cerska Corperation will provide you with Top of the line mercinaries in order to guard any institutions that have non-wage workers currently employed.
For a low low price of 500$ a month for every team of mercs you hire, you get 5 highly trained, lethal killing machines.
They are also good with kids.
Regards,
Ron Phillips

OOC: well then you are just a jackass who won't even allow people to just play a friggen game!
sorry for the cursing i just had to get it out of me.

OOC: Actually this turn of events is part of the game. Lyras is just playing the the character of his nation, and it is thus is allowing the game to go forth. If he were not to undertake this, the game would not be being played as fully as it could be. This is the very reason that my nation, despite not caring about slavery, is backing Lyras, because we are close and supporting allies.

IC:

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Open Declaration of the Dictorial Republic of Sumer

To all those concerned,

So rare is it an occurrence in this world where I, by the will of my people, am prescribed to bring about the might of the Dictorial Republic into an issue. As Lyras, a close ally of ours, indeed almost brothers and sisters, has decided to weigh in on a subject they feel strongly about, so too will we. The Lyran people have the full support of the Sumerian people. Our governments stand beside you, our forces with you. Whatever is needed we are willing to assist in this endeavor which we know is of strong consequence in the Lyran mind.

To those of you opposed to this instigation, especially those which it is directed in the state of Strator, we can not empathize with your plight. How you run your criminal system is up to you, however when you impose on basic rights for commercial gain you develop a problem. More so when those who understand those rights stand up to you, such as this ultimatum. I personally, and as the representative of my people, strongly encourage you to seek peaceful and diplomatic resolution to this issue. A violent end to this is not in the best interests of anyone involved, least of all your people. To the governments of Strator and all nations aligned thus, we can merely plead for you to see a quick, diplomatic and peaceful solution, for the sake of everyone, especially your people. For there will be no quarter, no mercy, no measure spared, if force were to become the means of solution. Your people will remember you not for your good things, but for the day a million tonnes of Sumerian armour bore upon them, and they will hate you for it.

- Head of State, Dictator of Sumer, Priestess of Inanna,
Ridingir Kisikil Dumumiapuabiak Dumuaninatumak Urukak Leshbarkingdu Kalamak Ninuru

Signed: Kisikil Ninatuma

The Ever Glorious Empire of the New Greater Nicksyllvania, the sacred fatherland of the peoples whom are descendent of the gods, normally ignores the petty ramblings of foreigners, but such bold statements can not be ignored by our lord, for it is an insult and a threat.

The right to property including slaves is the inalienable right held by all free men. This is fact, for not only it is written in all the holy texts of Nickism, but has been since the beginning of the earth as was created by Nick. Barbarians claiming otherwise is laughable, the same barbarians also threatening with force of arms is likewise laughable but is a grave insult as no sane people would dare face the militaristic might and physical, mental, and spiritual supremacy of the Nicksyllvanian people.

As such, by Imperial Decree, the Invincible Nicksyllvanian Empire, and the most Holy Temple of Nickism has thus decreed that Lyras and its people are hereby excommunicate from the mortal world.

Praised be the Emperor and our Holy Fatherland!

Marshal Stromsky, Supreme Kommissariat of the Imperial Ministry of External Threats

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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 5, Maximum Encryption
To: Coalition against slave-trading states
Subject: Slaves

Stoklomolvi absolutely supports this coalition against slavery, which is an unjust method used by capitalists to extort and extract wealth through the sufferings of other people. It is entirely inhumane and cannot be allowed to stand. Thus, we will purchase all slaves we can, so that we may free them and allow them to live as they please.

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Stoklomolvi Commissariat of State
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi

Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement

Stoklomolvi would like to purchase all slaves. State your prices.

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TO: (Open Telegram)
FROM: Vamperial Kingdom of Lynion, High King Vamp
RE: Slavery

Slavery is seen as an act of priacy and piracy is frowned upon by the kingdom and its colonies. The Vamperial Kingdom has combated against pirates and has vanquished the pirates from our region. We will vanquish the pirates and the slavers from the corners of the Earth as this practice should've being stopped centuries ago. Nevertheless, the Vamperial Kingdom and its colonies will do its part alongside Lyras. We will fight for what we believe in and die fighting for it.

"The Co-Prosperity Sphere of Auman stands by Stator's side in principle. A nation is free to do as it pleases within its own borders and it is not the right of any other to arrogantly impose its own system of values upon another. The nations that have gathered in support of this ultimatum, while with the most noble of intentions, are setting a dangerous precedent that may come back to harm them in the future. Who is to say that the nation of Lyras, for example, has some sort of policy within its own nation that I myself find personally deplorable? Should I then render some heavy handed ultimatum to their leadership for consideration? Should I not threaten invasion and subjugation when my demands are ultimately rejected? No, I shouldn't, as breaching the national sovereignty of an independent nation is not anyones right. The very concept disgusts me. And I believe it would be best for everyone involved to rethink this entire affair."

~Overlord Sheikh Navarrone.

OOC: expanded repost
IC:
Breif press release from the Crookfur Foreign Office

Whilst the Protectorate is undoutably in no need for international cheerleaders or direct assitance in this matter the Kingdom of Crookfur would like to offer it's full moral suport and offer any assitance that might be required should it be asked for.

We would also like to remind and slave trading nation that any vessel operating under thier colours in the North Atlantic is liabel to be boarded and searched. Should any eveidence of involvement of such vessels in the trafficing of Slaves, indentured workers or others held in unlawful bondage the vessel will be impounded and the crews will be liabel for prosecution.

OOC: I'll have you know, that is incorrect quoting, my text didn't have any bold letters :p

IC:

From Strator:

In the past I have been threatened, very much like this, big men with big guns, looking down their noses at myself and my people. I tolerated it, I buckled, although this was almost a crime against my nation. I have vowed to defend the nation of Strator, with all of my being. I have vowed to make my people strong, the same vow my father made, as did my fathers father, and his father before him. The Stratorii have been the guardians and leaders of Strator for three thousand years, and our nation has grown strong.

With that said, I shall not back down, I shall not buckle, I shall hold fast. The military of Strator is a mighty machine, men trained from birth, with only the best of the best being chosen. Like the Spartans, we have honed our young, separated the wheat from the chafe, leaving only the strongest elements of the gene pool. Every man, woman and child in Strator can fight. Those missing an arm shall use that which remains, and in such a manner, shall all the disabled, such is their commitment to their country. I may be a dictator, but I am well loved by the people, and they shall stand by me. Should you send in your armies, how shall you win? You will need to slaughter us all, from the old and crippled to the unborn in the womb, who shall by the villain then?

Even if this were not so, even if all that stood between me and you was my professional military, I would stand. I have faith in them as they do in me. They are the best of the best, an elite force as the likes of which has rarely been seen. So I say come at me, with all you've got, hopefully that includes some guts and spine, as you will need them. It is my field upon which the battles would be fought, a field known well by me and my countrymen, you will have to fight for every inch of land, and should you lose, expect no quarter. At the moment, with all your allies, the most you outnumber me at ten to one, with all other factors put in mind, the battle will not be to far from my favor.

This shall be a costly war if it comes to it, for all parties, but I am no coward, I am willing to die. But should I win, however unlikely, I shall bring my forces down upon you like lightning, expect no quarter, expect no mercy.

In all sincerity,
Augustus Stratorius Rex III
Lord Archon of the dominion of Strator

Official Response of the Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order

The Order has authorized the use of its reconnaissance and spy satellites by Lyras and other allies (With the exception of Stoklomolvi, for obvious reasons like them being at war with us).

Slavery is an uncivilized practice glorified by sexual deviants and sadists. Slavery shows the desperation of a nation's economy, and the laziness of its people. It is a sign that the government of the nation cannot correctly perform Capitalism, and would far be better suited for Communism (Where everyone's a slave). The Order supports the allies, but unfortunately cannot send its brave men and women to fight the barbarians. However, the Directorate of Reconnaissance and Intelligence's database will be at their disposal (With the exception of Stoklmolvi). By the way, the DRI would like to report that this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14556318&postcount=3) exposes some of Strator's words as complete fantasy. Quite literally, the nation is attempting to sell slaves for slaughter.

With love, the Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs.

Official Confederate Statement

While the Blackhelm Confederate government does agree with the views of the coalition which has massed against Strator, we are going to have to side with the statement given by Sheikh Navarrone. It is not your place to intervene in another nation to change a policy which is in no way effecting life within your own nations. Not only this, but far more people will have to suffer greatly due to the war which seems to be imminent. I will have to ask all parties involved to rethink their positions, and think if war is really the solution to this problem.

Signed,

Gaius Redpepper
Confederate Vice Chancellor

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To: The Lyras Protectorate
Subject: Slavery In Strator

President DeLéan empowered by We, The People of the Fortress State do hereby declare there full and unwavering support for the Lyras Protectorate in its persuit of the end of Slavery in Strator and; the civilised world. While The Fortress state will not be comiting Military force to this campaign as quite frankly we doubt you need our help. The people of Lyras should know that we stand with them, dispite any differences we may share or views we may disagree on, Animarnia, stands with you agains the blight on the human race slavery marks us with and that should they need support be it economically, Logistically through shared Intelegence or militarily that they need only ask thougth appropriate channels and we shall endevour to provide as much assistance as we are able.

President Molly DeLéan
President of the Fortress State

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To all nations attempting to argue for "sovereignty" or otherwise declaring an overstepping of bounds in the prevention of slavery and genocide -- and to those in support of Lyras.

No nation has the right to enslave, prostitute, sell as chattel, or slaughter other sentient human beings whom have offered their loyalties for protection from such actions. No nation has the right to commit effective genocide. No nation has the right to do as it pleases in all states and circumstances without fear of reprisal. Human rights are the issue at hand and no nation has the right to infringe upon the most basic liberties, certainly not upon liberty itself in its most pure form. Here, the line has been drawn for one hundred years and longer and here it will remain if not advance

To say this affects no nation but their own is false, as slavery disrupts local economies and when the ready supply of innocents has run low, they will seek them elsewhere. Even before that, agents from such a nation will seek the supposed exotic, the foreign citizens who were in the wrong time and the wrong place, anywhere in the world. This is a cancer and must be removed before it spreads.

This is no question of sovereignty. Those who believe it is would do well to better understand the term and apply it properly. A nation is not free to abuse and slaughter the humans within its own borders and it is the obligation of others to prevent and cure this blight. This is no question of independent national values, this is basic human decency.

Santheres offers its resources and services, and indeed as many of the Anagonian Confederacy as possible, to the destruction of slave states. There is no middle ground. There is no negotiation. It will stop, now through diplomacy, or later through blood.

Thank you for hearing us. Our support of Lyras and others in this matter will never waver.

Official Statement of the Revolutionary Commonwealth

Well well, here we are again; the Stratorian government is not without its' sense of protocol I see even if perhaps nothing more seemly. Lord Archon Augustus Stratorius Rex III, I believe it was during the reign of your predecessor that my own nation administered quite a large security zone along your eastern borderlands' coastline until the demands of our then-war with New Nicksyllvania required we turn it over to the Vetakans; who later withdrew for their own reasons upon thinking the situation largely contained. We gained this zone during the last time your nation's flaunting of its' "peculiar institutions" came to blows with the world at large, having given quite a few blows ourselves considering that the original plan was simply to support a planned rescue mission by a party that later decided to cut and run. I should know this well, because though my husband was General Secretary of the then-United Socialist States I as his deputy was present during the major planning for when our support operation suddenly had to be retooled, into our own landing and pacification operation itself with forces only barely adequate to the task even though they ultimately proved their quality in its' completion all the same. Two decades of mutual ignorance since the end of that middling fracas seems to have changed little here but the faces involved, so I sha'n't belabor opinions known and positions kept long since.

Our general line of policy in this matter shall be as stated by my good friend President DeLéan of the Fortress State; in whose company, indeed, I am presently as I compose this even. Considering the might in all respects already assembled by the Protectorate and Dictatorial Republic and various august Kingdoms alongside many others it is most glorious to see upon the side of advancing human dignity, as opposed to retarding it like so many seem inclined to lately such as in the case of the late and unlamented National Salvation Front regime in Soryanastan, the Revolutionary Commonwealth as yet sees best fit to stand prepared and ask that the coalition keep us appraised of its own needs. But if our might need be brought to the table, it shall be so brought; whether this becomes necessary is first a decision in Augustus S. Rex III's hands but perhaps foremost also of those who might deem to aid him moreover, even should his own senses fail him and prompt some among us to necessary action. Several among our nation's older adversaries have alas apparently decided to assist the Stratorian King in his policy of giving most vulgar offense to the community of nations at large; this may indeed be their 'sovereign right' in strictest theory, but the logical consequence of our own equally-sovereign rights thus is that our eyes remain upon them as but a matter of course and we must advise against putting more into treacherous gambles such as these than their own nations can perhaps safely afford. In the meantime I shall simply have to remain with my beloved friend and counterpart in power for the nation where I am so happily a guest for the present moment, and see whether or not either of us shall have to authorize actions more severe than these communiqués already sent.

In Hope and Resolution,
Christine L. Friedrich
By the Grace of Progress Stewardess of the Revolution for the Revolutionary Commonwealth of Wagdog and its' Dominions

In this open message to all who would take heed, I offer my counsel.

National sovereignty is a precious, precious thing. It is, in many ways, the founding principle of the interraction between nations in the modern world. Yet the acceptance of national sovereignty is not now, nor has it ever been, an absolute. National sovereignty, while remaining a very important, foundational and fundamental concept, does not, cannot and will not replace or overrule the concept of decency and conscionable action.

This does not mean that there is not dispute in regards to the execution of the concept of sovereignty. Indeed, Oppenheimer, one of the architects of contemporary international law, stated There exists perhaps no conception the meaning of which is more controversial than that of sovereignty. It is an indisputable fact that this conception, from the moment when it was introduced into political science until the present day, has never had a meaning which was universally agreed upon.
While I, writing as I do on behalf of Warmarshal Krell, can fully appreciate the positions and arguments raised by the esteemed Sheikh, and supported by the Blackhelm Confederacy, I urge both parties to consider their positions.

National sovereignty, both de jure and de facto, is not, nor ever has been, absolute, and, especially when such factors as the callous disregard for the social norms, international convention and even the foundational societal contracts that underpin civilisation itself, are considered.

Slavery, especially in the contemporary era, is completely anathema, and any state that argues that national sovereignty prevents just interference in such matters has taken a legalistic route to moral cowardice. As stated by Edmund Burke, all that it take for evil to prevail is that enough good men remain silent. As the Monseigneur of the South Boston Catholic Church once stated, the wickedness of evil men is to be feared, but there is another evil that we should fear most. And that, good friends, is the indifference of good men.

To those that argued that God did not condemn slavery, I argue thusly. Did God not command that we are to love our neighbours as ourselves? How can exploitation of them for commercial benefit, by flimsy legal pretext consitute love? It does not, and cannot.

The Lord Archon of Strator calls himself well loved, but no populace loves a dictator, self-confessed, who advocates the imposition of the death penalty for speaking too loudly. His 'merciful' commutation of such sentences to slavery will not raise him in their sight, only unmask the farce for what it is. An effort to use the law as a tool of dishonourable and unjust oppression and exploitation, for commercial gain. The government of the Lord Archon of Strator has sickened us. We are gratified that it has sickened others. Warmarshal Krell, stirred to anger by this horrific act of national oppression, has taken ill, and he is no longer a young man. For this reason I write now in his place.

Lyras will not be silent. Lyras will not be indifferent. Lyras will show by our actions our desire for a world were freedom is upheld, and dignity preserved.

The Warmarshal gave you one month. That statement stands unaltered, save by time's due passage.

We offer you, Lord Archon, an avenue to repudiate your practices, and return, unpunished, to the international stage. Rest assured, once the time that we, acting as agents for those within your own state who cannot act for themselves, have graciously given, grace coming not from us but from those in whose name we act, and who even now suffer unduly by your misguided hand, then the state of Strator will be all the worse for it.

We urge you, Lord Archon, act, for perhaps the first time, in genuine defence of the best interests of your citizens, state and people, and aye even yourself, and rescind these ghastly laws which are an affront to all of the international community, and that even now stand as the sword of Damocles above Strator.

In undaunted hope

For Warmarshal Leon Krell
Field Marshal George Wallins
Senior Officer
Diplomatic Command
Bredubar
Protectorate of Lyras

OCC: Map of Strator here http://s690.photobucket.com/albums/vv263/Stratorns/?action=view&current=Stratormap.jpg

IC:

To the protectorate of Lyras
From: Strator

How is it in defense of my citizens to be weak? Should I submit twice in my lifetime to the whims of other nations, I would rather die the worst of deaths. My people are proud, and would never forgive me if I should cower from a fight. They do not. We are a warrior people, borne into a harsh land, and yet we thrived. The stories say that the Kurpsegradi tribes were the descendants of the mountain bears. They are now my Stratorians, and we hold all due fierceness.

I am ready to die, I shall be amongst the defenders. And when we emerge from the rubble and ashes of our nation after this conflict be done, we shall bring the fight to you. Let us see what your people are made of...

In ALL sincerity,
Augustus Stratorius Rex III,
Lord Archon of the dominion of Strator

To:Augustus Stratorius Rex III, Lord Archon of the dominion of Strator


While your bravery is admirable, I can not see how your actions are in the best intrests of your people.

You are outnoumbered 10-1. You may win, but the death destruction brought upon you nation will be massive.

We urge you to consider weather slavery is the most important thing for your nation, of such importance that it is worth to loose many lives for?


Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere,
on behalf of the people of Nachmere.

The Nation of Cuborg will assist any nation aiming to destroy Strator's slave trade.

OOC: We urge you to consider using the spell check.

IC:

It is no longer in defense of Slavery which I fight, but for the honor of my people. It is now twelve to one in terms of military personnel, supposing that all those pledging military support to Lyras follow through with a decent portion of their army, this is not likely. They will probably only send small detachments, as they would be unwilling to leave their countries undefended to fight another nation's war. Lyras themselves cannot send their full military, but I can use every last man, woman and child, and they shall fight willingly. The odds are not against me as of yet, and even if they were I would not back down. Some may call me evil, but I am no coward.

To cuborg:

posted already two posts back.

OOC: I noticed that right after I posted >.<

Some may call me evil, but I am no coward.
You are indeed a coward and a fool, for sending the children of your nation to die for slavery.

Message to Strator:
Since everyman will fight, every man will die. Prepare for war.

The Macgruber army readies for another bloody war, Many branches of The Navy, Airforce and Ground force have been mobilized. The being invasion will come from the west.

We suggest all other nations to do the same.

OOC: what is your percentage armed forces, your nation is smaller than mine, mine is very militaristic, and you are attacking which means that only a percentage of your forces can be committed. It is suggestible you wait for the other nations involved to attack before you do so, because otherwise you will be overwhelmed. It isn't wise to be so quick to war.

Sea Road AFB, Nachmere

In the early light 30 OKW Long Haul Helicopters could be seen being loaded up with Land Rovers, Weapons, and Supplies. The men of the Nachmere Parliament Guard will now spend all their time near these helicopters. All leaves were cancelled.

Lemnos AFB (and bombing ranges), Lemnos Island, Lamoni

A group of twenty Ath-86 Nebula medium bombers were flying towards Lemnos, at all points of the compass. When the reached the (simulated) radar sensitivity range, the bombers all dove, and started flying at low level.

The target for this simulated mission was an "enemy" naval base, where it was suspected that enemy Fleet Ballistic Missile (FBM) submarines were housed. Targets for the Shadow cruise missiles that each bomber was carrying were scattered all over the base, and the base itself would be uninhabitable, if the simulated attack succeeded. It was no coincidence that the simulated target was as close as known allied intelligence on Strator would allow to being a Stratorian naval base. President Stinson and both the Congress and Chamber of Deputies had passed the resolution authorizing the use of military force against Strator in conjunction with the Protectorate of Lyras, and other allied nations in a closed door joint session of the Lamonian government. The media could speculate that this meeting was in some way related to Strator, but none of them even came close to guessing the truth behind the meeting.

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Lamonian Embassy, Lyras

A notification on the passage of Lamoni's official entry to the Allied cause against Strator was securely sent to the Lamonian ambassador in Lyras.

When the ambassador received the notice, he got on his phone, and placed a call to the Lyran government, requesting a meeting with Field Marshal George Wallins of the Lyran Diplomatic Command, in order to inform the Lyrans of the Lamonian intent to deploy military force in the Strator conflict.

The ambassador would then be the point of contact between the two governments for military purposes, until an improved joint communications network had been established between Lamoni, Lyras, and the other allied nations.

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Fedala Accord Chambers

Having cornered his Lyran opposite number, the Lamonian representative led him to his office. "I have been instructed to inform you that Lamoni will be sending military forces to help the Lyran Protectorate defeat the slaveholders in Strator. As a display of our gratitude to our Lyran allies, we will allow the Protectorate to establish a military base out of 25 square kilometers at the northern tip of Lemnos Island in the Free Republic, if the Protectorate so desires. We will allow a division of Lyran land forces, an aerial division, and resupply ships. Lamoni will also pay half of the costs for construction of this base.

Is this acceptable to our Lyran Battle-Brothers?"

To- Strator
From-Kraveska
Forced prisoner labor is fine, however in your last storefront you had several cloning and genetic altering devices, plus "compliance devices" such as whips, shackles, and the "torture pack". Quite frankly, we find you and your practices disgusting.

OOC: We classified that information. More information will be given to you as the incident unfolds. A Map will be used to help you understand whats happening where.

Macgruber planes went on full alert as they waited for the order to deploy to Strator. The naval fleet waited for the go ahead while waiting in international waters just outside of Macgruber's waters. The full out assault was expected to come from the west. It was expected that airforce and naval bases where going to be targeted first by long range missiles while army bases will be captured by ground forces. Cities would be softened up with mortar barrages since most of Strator citizens where considered pro-slavery fighters.

To: All concerned Nations and Parties
From: HRH Ta'el Tha'estral, DF, KotP, King of Tantranesi & Chief of the Royal House of Estral
Re: Slavery in the Dominion of Strator

Let it be known that the Kingdom of Tantranesi and the Royal House of Estral condemn the practice of forced servitude and the buying and selling of Human beings.

Although We feel that those people who are found guilty of murder, rape, etc, should be punished in a manner suitable to the crime, We believe that this punishment should not involve the use of Men and Women as cattle, to be owned by another person. This policy is in direct conflict with the Rights of Mankind.

We implore the Dominion of Strator to comply with the numerous requests to cease and desist this abominable practice.

Further, we are willing to exercise the use of force in order to end these deplorable practices.

We hope that it shall not come to that.
HRH Ta'el Tha'estral, DF, KoP, King of Tantranesi & Chief of the Royal House of Estral

To: All concerned Nations and Parties

The Alversian People's Republic feels that the use of slavery as a punishment is not acceptable and should not be condoned by the Government of Strator as a legitimate practise. The classification of men and women as objects, even Criminals, is a barbaric and unlawful practise in itself that ranks the Government no better than the people it attempts to punish. With this in mind, the Alversian People's Republic will join the Anti-Slavery Coalition against the Government of Strator.

Yours Sincerely

Sammi Owens

Prime Minister, Alversia
On Behalf of the Senate and People of Alversia

A secret massage was sent:
To: Lamonian Government
The Armed Republic of Nachmere wishes to fulfill its obligation to stand beside the Anti-Slavery alliance in actions as well as words. We are however quite far from the action, so we wish to deploy to your country. We are in mind to send 25 fighter-bombers and 30 Super-Heavy Helicopters. The Helicopters will carry 1200 Nachmere Parliamentary Guards and their equipment. This will include supplies, ammunition and 45 vehicles.
It is a small force in the scale of this possible armed conflict, but it is all we can afford. If we can muster more troops for long-range deployment we will send them.

Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere,
on behalf of the people of Nachmere.

To Nachmere
From Macgruber government

We are willing to supply your army if you wish to send more troops for this conflict. Weapons,Vehicles and transportation to Strator are available for no cost.

To: Macgruber Government
We do not require any weapons. What we do need is a way to get our troops to the conflict zone. If you can lend us enough transport aircraft for the job, we will send a light armored division(212 Medium Tanks, 212 APCs, 36 light weight artillery,350 support vehicles and around 8000 troops). The troops and lighter equippment we can send on our existing aircraft fleet, as well as civilian aircraft. We will need larger aircraft to carry the 35 ton tanks and the APCs. If you have planes that carry these AFVs, we will send this unit.
I do want to stress hat we should wait for the entire coalition to agree on military action and act in unison or our efforts will be divided and un-coordinated.

Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere,
on behalf of the people of Nachmere.

The Cuborg military will commit two million regulars and two million conscription troops to the conflict in Strator. The Cuborgian dictator is stubborn in his decision to not wait for the assistance/collaboration of other nations. The first attack must be by a competent and fearless army, to be sure that the war would be over before it began.

2:30 AM, Off The Coast Of Cuborg
The HSL Sasha and its sister ship, the HSL Kirill, were being armed at a off-shore naval facility. Only five of the customized super-destroyers were ever made: two were given to Cuborg, one to the United States, and two to China, then they shot the guys who made it. The HSL Kirill was acting as the escort for the Sasha, and it was armed accordingly: most of the missile silos had been converted into munitions containers for the massive batteries of anti-aircraft and anti-ship guns. The HSL Sasha was equipped with R-39 Rif ('Riff Raff') MIRV missiles, but at the cost of defense. Within mere hours the ships would enter Strator waters and engage the coastal defenses, allowing for the amphibious assault led personally by General Al-Asad to begin their liberation of the imprisoned people of Strator.

OOC: Strator, do you have information of your military equipment?

Warmarshall Krell,

I Warmarshall Black, will anwer the call of Lyras, may slavery be abolished, once and for all, be it either by force or politics.

Vornagar is at your service, again.

OOC: Jolt ate my post.

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Official Communiqué from the desk of Norheim II, par la grâce de Gens, roi de Yanitarie, de Kabavie, de Okhotsk, de Lieche, de Wittenshcau, et de Mattiasland, and from the desk of the Premier Ministre de les PRUY, Dr. Karl Gustav Henriksen.

Humans, justified by their unparalleled consciousness, are endowed with certain unalienable rights, such as the right to life, liberty, and equality, which may only be taken away at under the just laws of their country. Historically, forced labour has not been a punishment looked down upon by the international community. Indeed, in most countries, forced labour is present in some form or another, usually accompanied by a justice system that is willing and able to protect the innocent. The rogue state of Strator, perhaps as many closed societies, has sought to impose worse, slavery, upon citizens who break unjust laws, which have not even a semblance of justice behind them. By what stretch of the imagination can "looking lost" be considered a crime so heinous, that the perpetrators should have their basic human rights stripped of them, and made less than human, property, under the laws of their own country.

Worse, the "Lord Archon" seeks to rally his people by fooling them into believing that this is not a war over slavery, but a war of honor. To this, the PRUY has only one thing to say. The people of Strator should make no mistake, this is a war over slavery, not honor. The only truly honorable thing to do should be to fight against the institution of slavery. How many of your countrymen have been sentenced to a life of forced labour? How many more should be sent away before you are next? Who, beyond the insanely and blindly loyal, should support such an institution, and label the practice honorable? It is not a mark of honor to die for the right to be made a slave, instead it is the mark of an blind idiot.

On this, the government of la Yanitarie will say no more. Let it be known that the PRUY is committed to aiding our Dienstadi brothers in Lyras in ridding the world of another slave trading state. Whether the people of Strator choose to do this peacefully, with out bloodshed, and indeed, with honor at the negotiation table, or whether they choose to fight to the last man as they say, is up to their leader.

However, it cannot be said that Yanitariens are the first to rush into war. We invite all parties to a summit in the city of Armance-sur-Nièvre, which both Norheim II, roi de Yanitarie, and Dr. Karl Gustav Hendriksen, Premier Ministre, will attend. We extend a personal invitation to Augustus Stratorius Rex III, Lord Archon of the Dominion of Strator, as well as to Warmarshal Leon Krell, of the Protectorate of Lyras. Allow us to solve this dispute with real honor. In order to maintain security, we ask that no armed guards be brought, or that all arms should be surrendered upon entering the Sumit, which will take place at the Château fort d'Armance.

Principality of Andermark
His Majesty, the Prince-Designate
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Coat_of_Arms_of_Norway.svg/262px-Coat_of_Arms_of_Norway.svg.pngThe Principality of Andermark finds acceptable the policy of Strator of forced labor as punishment for major criminal offenses committed. Furthermore, we find detestable the words and actions of the Lyran Protectorate and its allies, in their quest to impose their own cultural norms and standards on another civilization, of which they clearly have no understanding. As a society, Andermarkers embrace the concept of national sovereignty, and find your ultimatum to be little more than war-mongering and an exercise in Lyran egotism and big-headedness.

We are struck, also, by the resolution of the Lord Archon and the people of Strator, sticking to their moral convictions in the face of overwhelming odds and public persecution by such larger nations. The Stratorians have nothing less than the full respect and admiration of the Andermarkian people.

As such, we are prepared to support the Stratorians in the noble defense of their homeland. We are a small nation with a military sized accordingly, but the warrior ethos of the men and women that comprise Andermark’s Border Legion make up for that ten times over. As this communiqué is being received, two of the Freikorps’ quick-reaction units, the No. 4 Freijaeger Demi-Brigade and the No. 4 Freijaeger Demi-Brigade, are en route to Strator and, should our offer of military aid be accepted, will land at Stratorian airbases within eighteen hours. Additionally, the Royal Expeditionary Division, the major component of the Border Legion, will be prepared to deploy in case its use is deemed necessary.

Faithfully,
Frederick, Baron Leitdorf, Graf von Anderhaal and Prince-Designate of Andermark

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Secret Comminiqué from Frederik Norheim II, roi de Yanitarie to Frederick, Baron Leitdorf, Graf von Anderhaal and Prince-Designate of Andermark.

It is my belief that you have perhaps been mislead. While it may be true that in Strator, forced labour is a punishment for the worst of criminals, however, it is also true that there are several circumstances where slavery is also a punishment, such as, and this is a direct quote:

In Strator, all major offenses previously given a capital punishments (such as talking too loud, looking lost and murder) have been re-evaluated. It is now deemed more beneficial to society if these persons serve a rehabilitation sentence of hard labor for no pay.

By no stretch of the imagination is slavery (which differs from forced labour in that the accused may be sold and bought, which the government has done) an acceptable punishment for looking lost, or talking to loud. The sheer arbitrary nature of these laws indicates that they are simply means by which to arrest people and use them for slave labour. Can you, my fellow monarch, and free man, in good conscience support such abuses?

I invite you to come to the peace summit in la Yanitarie, and discuss with the international community a non-military solution to this issue. Perhaps, through diplomatic and economic means we can prompt Strator into dropping the dishonorable institution of slavery.

To: The nations of the world
From: Aimless Von Strangaild

Are we too to be villianized for sending our worst offenders to work without pay? Is it wrong to make mass murder's, rapists, and there ilk work off there debut to society? No. While I believe Strator's punishments amy be too harsh for some crimes I believe using criminal as slave labor helps reduce crime and teaches them a lesson. Rehab often does not work and putting them in cells for long periods of time just drains money. I believe if the crime is serious enough, then that person can be used as free labor. Not every nation that has slaves is taking innocent people. Some of the people you might be freeing are criminals who could be itching to be free again.

A secret massage was sent:
To: Lamonian Government
The Armed Republic of Nachmere wishes to fulfill its obligation to stand beside the Anti-Slavery alliance in actions as well as words. We are however quite far from the action, so we wish to deploy to your country. We are in mind to send 25 fighter-bombers and 30 Super-Heavy Helicopters. The Helicopters will carry 1200 Nachmere Parliamentary Guards and their equipment. This will include supplies, ammunition and 45 vehicles.
It is a small force in the scale of this possible armed conflict, but it is all we can afford. If we can muster more troops for long-range deployment we will send them.

Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere,
on behalf of the people of Nachmere.

Foreign Ministry of the Free Republic of Lamoni

To: Nachmere

-[ENCRYPTED]-

The Free Republic is willing to send as many C-10 Minotaur transport aircraft (OOC: http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=3887 ) as are required to transport your forces to Lemnos island, in the Lamonian west. From there, your troops will be welcome to train with Lamonian forces (OOC: feel like an RP for that?) until the allied decision is made to attack Strator.

All of this will be done at no cost to Nachmere, if you agree.

Signed,

Tanya Ley
Foreign Minister
Free Republic of Lamoni

A recent article in the New Corinth Intelligencer

Ever since news of Strator’s resumption of bonded servitude and human trafficking emerged last week the issue has slowly risen up the political ladder as well as raised the political temperature here in Etoile Arcture.

Human rights abuses are a hot topic issue and the Council of Deputies, responding to a number of anti-slavery protests that have been held across the country, passed a non-binding resolution Wednesday condemning the Stratorian government and their client states. This was quickly followed on Thursday by authorisation to the General Secretariat to conduct stop and boarding operations in the Pacific Ocean of any shipping, Stratorian flagged or otherwise, suspected in the trade of human beings.

The Diplomatic Directorate has so far issued two strongly worded statements to Strator and has signalled the Technocracy’s broad support of the Protectorate of Lyras’ unilateral declaration to Strator. The effect of the Lyran proclomation has been far ranging beyond Etoile Arcture with the growing chorus of dissaproval having become the nucleus of an anti-slavery coalition of nations. While the General Secretariat hasn’t the authority to act unilaterally in this matter, having stopped short of calling for military action itself, the latest electronic referenda and opinion polls show a 67-72% majority favouring Etoile Arcture taking a tougher stance.

Sources have informed us that over the weekend high level discussions were held between the General Secretariat and officials from the Principality of Damirez following a request from the Delian League for additional sealift assets. This has been widely interpreted as indications of some advance plannin and preparations for military action, and will only add to the pressure being felt by Strator from a number of states threatening to mobilise against them. Spokespeople from both the Diplomatic Directorate and Defence Directorate officials have so far refused to comment, but according to our sources the Rapid Reaction Forces have already been placed on a twenty-four hour alert in case of a deployment to Strator.

To pave the way for such action we would expect a vote to provide authorisation to the General Secretariat to take military action to be held by the Council of Deputies as soon as Monday evening or Tuesday. With increasingly belicous statements coming from the Stratorian government and more nations pledging support to Lyras the crisis looks no closer to amicable resolution. Hopes of avoiding war now wrest on a last ditch diplomatic push from the government of Yanitaria that has offered to broker negotiations with Strator, and the Technocracy has signalled its willingness to take part in such a conference should it be held. The ball is now most firmly in Strator's court.

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Diplomatic Directorate - Official Communiqué

From: Dr. Michiko Flax, Director General, Diplomatic Directorate of the Unitary Technocracy of Etoile Arcture
To: Dr. Karl Gustav Hendriksen, Premier Ministre, Yanitaria
Classification: Restricted, eyes only
Subject: Strator

I write to you to commend the Yantarian government for offering its good offices as an honest broker and host for negotiations concerning the Strator slavery issue. The Unitary Technocracy would be pleased to attend any negotiations, on the sole (and neccessary condition) of Strator’s attendence at said talks. I will not attempt to hide or disguise my pessimism in this regard, vis-a-vis, Strator’s attendence, and my overall pessimism concerning the probabily of war if your attempts fail.

Nonetheless, it is our hope your government will be successful in bringing together the two sides of this argument and reaching an ammicable solution that can both end human trafficking by Strator and avoid conflict. The Technocracy will assist in whatever way it can while the there is still a chance for a peaceful resolution.

/signed/ Dr. Michiko Flax

[Encrypted]-
To: Lamonia
We accept your offer with gratitude. If you have enough transport aircraft for the job, we will send a light armored division(212 Medium Tanks, 212 APCs, 36 light weight artillery,350 support vehicles and around 8000 troops). The troops and lighter equippment we can send on our existing aircraft fleet, as well as civilian aircraft. We will need larger aircraft to carry the 35 ton tanks and the APCs. If you have planes that carry these AFVs, we will send this unit.

We will be happy if these forces can train with you, as the scope of the confrontation will not allow one division to act alone.

Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere,
on behalf of the people of Nachmere.


OOC:
1. this is the same unit that I eas meaning to send to macgruber. i will send it to the first to ansawer, simply because time is of the essence.
2. yes, i will RP it, we can start a thread if you have the aircraft.

The ships Sasha and Kirill were moving steadily towards Strator-controlled waters, armed to the teeth. They would pave the way for the ground assault, and provide support for said attack. Allegedly, Strator would be at a summit with some of Cuborg's allies against slavery, but until then, the planned attack would take place.

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Official Communique

To: The Protectorate of Lyras
From: Dwight McArthur, Prime Minister Of Ustio North
CC: Jala Soma, President of the Federation of Jalanat, Lord Archon of the dominion of Strator
RE: 'Slave Traders'

Both myself and many fellow members of my nation - no, my fellow human beings - are disgusted that these industries are even allowed to be formed in the first place. The Protectorate of Lyras has the full support of the United Kingdom in this situation

Sincerely,

Dwight McArthur,
Prime Minister

OOC: I'm not sure how many times we have to say this, but over on NS, the WA has power. But you're not in NS now, you're in II, where the WA has jack shit. It has no power. Whether he's a member or not, doesn't mean he can sell slaves and expect to get away with it with no consequences.

OOC: Before I throw myself into this situation, isn't the "II" a part of "NS"?

To: Macgruber Government
We do not require any weapons. What we do need is a way to get our troops to the conflict zone. If you can lend us enough transport aircraft for the job, we will send a light armored division(212 Medium Tanks, 212 APCs, 36 light weight artillery,350 support vehicles and around 8000 troops). The troops and lighter equippment we can send on our existing aircraft fleet, as well as civilian aircraft. We will need larger aircraft to carry the 35 ton tanks and the APCs. If you have planes that carry these AFVs, we will send this unit.
I do want to stress hat we should wait for the entire coalition to agree on military action and act in unison or our efforts will be divided and un-coordinated.

Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere,
on behalf of the people of Nachmere.

Encrypted Message To Nachmere:
We will be sending large transport planes to your country. Unfortunately we are not waiting for help. A massive attack on Strator's western coast is almost underway. Over 1.7 million soldiers will be used in this assault, we are using the points captured to resupply the soldiers before they move towards the capital. Maybe after we capture parts of the western coast you could easily slip in.


-Silos around Macgruber-
"Ok men, you have orders to lock on to the Strator's satellites and destroy them."
Almost every satellite belonging to Strator's government, civilians or military was targeted by RIM-161 and SC-19 Anti-Satellite Missiles. This was to Aid the Macgruber army in the plans to abolish slavery. Because the Macgruber government was considerably smaller, they would have to work fast in disabling the country's communications and space weapons (The government wasn't sure if Strator had any.) To have a better chance of Making into Strator they would have to target the one thing that would literally put them in the dark....

To:Macgruber

Do not send us the transports, use tem for your own uses, you will need them. The Parliament Guard is on their way to you and will assist you as much as they can. We will send the armored division to Lamoni and it will join the fight in an orgenized manner.

Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere,
on behalf of the people of Nachmere.

Sea Roads AFB, Nachmere-

"OK people lets move it!" a First Sgt. Built like an ox roared at his men. Everyone was putting their personal gear on the Helicopters. They already checked and rechecked thier weapons and gear. "Load up!" The First Sgt. shouted over the sound of the helicopter engine starting. 29 similar scenes were going on around them. The fighters and air-refule aircraft were already taking off on a runway about half a mile away. Two minutes later the first helo took off heavily,

To all nations concerned here;

As a neutral power I, General Abdul Bair Hassan ben Naggoroth, am amazed at the hypocrisy displayed by nations and leaders on both sides of this conflict.

There are those who claim they wish to end slave trading, yet speak not about nations that already have slaves. These are leaders who find slavery acceptable, except when it affects their own citizens; they are fine with the plight of the oppressed as long as they do not have to hear about it. Yet these leaders use justifications of morality as excuses -- hypocrisy, for it is morality they do not believe, and only subscribe to because they would lose support if they did not.

There are those who wish to end both slave trading and slavery, and eradicate it immediately, within a rapid timeframe. When a nation has become economically dependent on slavery, and when slavery is a part of its national traditions, this will ruin its economy, and wear down its national identity. But the economic collapse that can result, which will doubtless lead to the unemployment and suffering of millions more, is not their concern. They value the suffering of the slaves higher than the suffering of the citizens if the slaves are freed; they put a higher price on one human life than on another -- hypocrisy, for they are guilty of exactly the same immorality they claim to stand against.

There are those who claim the issue is a matter of national sovereignty. These are the closest to right. Even so, however, "national sovereignty" is what? A buzzword, nothing more. A convenient excuse to explain why one cannot or will not intervene, to conceal one's true intentions and beliefs -- especially if they are in support of unpopular policies -- or to avoid exposing a weak position and underfunded army that is not powerful enough to effect change in the world.

Finally, to those blathering about the World Assembly: It is not moral rectitude that determines one's place in the world, but force of arms. The strongest make the rules. There are peaceful solutions to the slavery problem, but the Protectorate of Lyras has chosen not to take them, because it has the advantage in force. Were the offending nation not Strator but Automagfreek, or Questers, or Doomingsland, the world would be silent.

Abdul Bair Hassan ben Naggoroth
Supreme Commander of the Amadji Transitional Government

Foreign Ministry of the Free Republic of Lamoni

To: Ray Ginger, President, Nachmere, Honored Allies

-[ENCRYPTED]-

We have more than enough C-10 Minotaur transport aircraft to transport a unit of that size. Please let us know where you would like our C-10 Minotaur aircraft to land in Nachmere in order to receive the cargo; and your aircraft can land at Lemnos AFB, where they will be met with their equipment. Joint exercises can begin as soon as you are ready after your forces have reached Lamonian soil.

We have even reserved room for your forces aboard Lamonian Merchant shipping for the journey to the fight in Strator, once the time is upon the alliance to strike.

Please let us know if this is acceptable.

Signed,

Tanya Ley
Foreign Minister
Free Republic of Lamoni

The Emperor had just finished filtering through his morning mail when a young Guardsman from the Diplomatic Corps. entered the chambers with a fresh stack of global briefs, situation reports, and other files. The Emperor gestured to the man to place the files on the desk. After several minutes of the "same-ole", he came across one file that was marked as a slightly higher priority than the rest. After looking through the cover pages and checking the signatures of the previous viewers, the Emperor shook his head and let out a slight sigh. "When will it end", he muttered to himself. He took his pen and began to formulate a response, which was rare in itself, to the current situation.

TO: The Nations of The World
FROM: Emperor Mwto'ar Uganda-Sambizie
RE: Nation of Strator

Ultimatums you say? It amazes me how one can justify the invasion of a sovereign nation. Am I to believe you to be the new global police force? All of you are willing to invade a nation to get "your" point across?. In my eyes, you are no better than those you judge. Oh, the cries of liberation, justice, equality, save the slaves-From who? So instead of letting the nation practice it own sovereignty, political addendum, laws and practices, you would invade to enforce yours? Do you plan on some sort of re-education? Long term goals in mind? Or are you just going to blow the crap out of everything so you can bolster you already over inflated egos and claim victory through oppression-Sounds like Slavery. I will make this short and to the point, We have many things in common with the young nation of Strator. If it's ultimatums you offer, then I have one as well. As long as you are on the rampage of invading nations of free mind and soverignty, I encourage you to bring your words and ultimatums to the Empire. It seems out of all of you, one is to be commended. And that is the Nation of Lyras. At least Lyras had the courage to stand up first and didn't come skating in on coat tails like the rest of you. Take it for what it's worth, and if you’re so intent on ending this practice, perhaps you should start with someone with a little more experience? My dogs await your arrival!

Emperor Mwto'ar Uganda-Sambizie

Cuborg's missile defense network detected Macgruber's launch against the Strator satellites. Now was the time to strike.

"This is General Al-Asad, come on in Sasha."
"This is Sasha, in position to attack."
"Macgruber has made the first move, fire all munitions at the targets, out."

The commander aboard the HSL Sasha contacted the Kirill. "Releasing munitions, expect attack." The Sasha locked on to the coastal defense along the south of Strator: major cities, airfields, navel bases, etc. The missile silos slide open silently, and a bright flash went off. Two Topol missiles were fired into the sky, and within the hour, the twelve warheads between them would hopefully destroy their targets.

OCC:
To have a better chance of Making into Strator they would have to target the one thing that would literally put them in the dark....

Strator doesn't have a space program, all connections are optical fibers.

Allegedly, Strator would be at a summit with some of Cuborg's allies against slavery, but until then, the planned attack would take place.

I never stated I was sending anybody to the summit. Mostly because I didn't see it, but I can still boycott it. Ill go look at it before I post anything there or here IC.

We of the Kahomatan Monarchy believe it to be the right of every nation to govern itself. The government of Strator has the right to choose how to punish its nation's criminals.

Kahomata will join in the defense of Strator if it comes to war...

OC: Battle Ships, Cruisers, Destroyers, Coast Guards, Border Patrols as such will be patrolling the Federations water and patrol the international waters outside the FSSU by 50 kilometers from the FSSU waters, any cargo ships comming from the nation of Strator will be boarded for inspections, any slaves found will be confiscated and the slaves will be settled in FSSU, granted citizenship, a proper life in the nation, any cargo ships, any goods comming from the nation of Strator will be denied entry inside the FSSU borders.

ooc an still SSU don't get what ic and occ are

Long Haul Helcopter, on route to Macgruber-

"Hawk leader, this is Uplink, over" The headset in Ltc Bowens helmet sounded. He was leading the 30 Long Haul helicopters loaded with the Nachmere Parliament Guards heading to Macgruber. Uplink was the callsign for Nachmere Land Forces HQ.
"Uplink this is Hawk leader, go ahead, over"
"Hawk leader, change your course to Lamony. I repeat, change your course to Lamoni, over"
"This is Hawk leader, Hawk formation dose not have the fuel to reach Lamoni, over"
"Hawk leader this is Uplink, refule aircraft will meet you onrout. divert course now, out"

[encrypted]

To Lamoni

We are pleased to hear you can host our troops. Our Parliament Guards are on the way as this massage is being transmitted. The armored division is waiting in Roads AFB.

Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere,
on behalf of the people of Nachmere.

To Macgruber

By advice of my military experts, Im sending all my forces to Lamoni. I advise you to reconsider your actions untill the coalition is fully onbaord with military action.

Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere,
on behalf of the people of Nachmere.

ooc: Lamoni, are we rping my forces in your country?

OOC: I love how Lyras gave Strator one month, and everyone jumped the gun and started attacking. What am I, the only one respecting the one-month credit?

OOC: Only, like, five people are attacking.

The nation of Kraveska is declaring war on Strator for their use of genetic engineering on prisoners, and their use of torture devices as "compliance devices".

[encrypted]

To Lamoni

We are pleased to hear you can host our troops. Our Parliament Guards are on the way as this massage is being transmitted. The armored division is waiting in Roads AFB.

Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere,
on behalf of the people of Nachmere.

Foreign Ministry of the Free Republic of Lamoni

To: Ray Ginger, President of The Armed Republic of Nachmere, Honored Allies

We are sending 250 C-10 Minotaur transport aircraft to Roads AFB in order to transport your armored division to Lemnos AFB in Lamoni. Each C-10 is rated to carry three LY4A2 or M-21A1 MBT, so we feel that the force that we are sending will comfortably be able to move your force, as well as troops. Rations will also be provided for your soldiers during the flight; so please let us know if your soldiers have any special needs in that area.

Signed,

Tanya Ley
Foreign Minister
Free Republic of Lamoni

(OOC: Nachmere, check your TGs)

OOC: I love how Lyras gave Strator one month, and everyone jumped the gun and started attacking. What am I, the only one respecting the one-month credit?

OOC: Not the only one, no. And i'm even working WITH Lyras on putting together the attack.

ooc: i hoped macgruber would wait but he dident hence my troops are not going there.

OOC: I love how Lyras gave Strator one month, and everyone jumped the gun and started attacking. What am I, the only one respecting the one-month credit?

There hasn't been any attack which I have acknowledged, the only direct military action was against my non-existent satellites. Macgrubber probably should have asked if I had any before doing that.

Can I join in on this big attack on Strators western coast?

There hasn't been any attack which I have acknowledged, the only direct military action was against my non-existent satellites. Macgrubber probably should have asked if I had any before doing that.

OCC: Well i guessed you did have a space program based on your countries size fortunately you don't, and that will be a great help.


Can I join in on this big attack on Strators western coast?

Encrypted
Of course your army can, you just have to pledge a lot of troops if you want to make a difference. You will need to send fighters to help me gain air superiority and of course armed ships. What can your army spare? We will be sending you the plan once we get a estimate from you.

ooc: Cerska Corperation, which bought many slaves, has them working in the Eastern Mountain Mines.

Its a private business, but no reaction to ND allowing this?

ooc: Cerska Corperation, which bought many slaves, has them working in the Eastern Mountain Mines.

Its a private business, but no reaction to ND allowing this?

ooc:
What, you want the coalition to attack everything at once? either way, just out of curiosity, what would you do if you were issued an ultimatum to stop this?

OOC: Macgruber and I have had... dealings with North Defese. He's a little hard to play with. And Strator, are you going to acknowledge the bombing against the South?

As the WA does have power in NS, only members of the WA are required to follow WA legislation. Membership is optional.

OOC: Macgruber and I have had... dealings with North Defese. He's a little hard to play with. And Strator, are you going to acknowledge the bombing against the South?

Tends to go nuclear after declaring war over small things.

No, I threaten to, theres a difference.

And I was new ok??
Cant get better without learning from mistakes.

OCC: Well i guessed you did have a space program based on your countries size fortunately you don't, and that will be a great help.



Encrypted
Of course your army can, you just have to pledge a lot of troops if you want to make a difference. You will need to send fighters to help me gain air superiority and of course armed ships. What can your army spare? We will be sending you the plan once we get a estimate from you.


Well, I actually have no Navy at the current moment, but I can send fighter jets and troops.



I can probably spare about 1 million troops for now, and I may increase that number when the situation calls for it.


Also, I can spare 50 helicopters

Well, I actually have no Navy at the current moment, but I can send fighter jets and troops.



I can probably spare about 1 million troops for now, and I may increase that number when the situation calls for it.


Also, I can spare 50 helicopters

Encrypted:
That's great, i Was wondering how you will transport theses men to Strator? You would like to accompany the 1.7 million troops on there invasion of the west coast. I have tanks, light transport vehicles,weapons and small transport helicopters at your disposal, because i don't think 50 helicopters is enough support of 1 million troops if your interested. I hope friendly relations between our two countries will be forged during this incident.

No, I threaten to, theres a difference.

And I was new ok??
Cant get better without learning from mistakes.

Right you can't get better without learning from your mistakes, so are you going to be joining this thread on one of our sides?

ooc: Im going to represent Cerska in this thread.
Cerska corperation bought about one thousand slaves and 1,500 shackles.
The slaves are being worked to death in the Eastern Mountains in North Defese, very close to the border of South Defese.

Id like a response to this before I can really RP anything, since the ND 'goverment' didnt buy anything.

Encrypted:
That's great, i Was wondering how you will transport theses men to Strator? You would like to accompany the 1.7 million troops on there invasion of the west coast. I have tanks, light transport vehicles,weapons and small transport helicopters at your disposal, because i don't think 50 helicopters is enough support of 1 million troops if your interested. I hope friendly relations between our two countries will be forged during this incident.



Well, actually, I was hoping you would pick them up, on a ship or something, it doesn't matter. The 50 helicopters are there for attack operations. I got them in a telegram from somebody supporting my nation when I nearly went to war, along with other weapons, but he didn't actually say what most of his weapons were. Anyway, he gave me 100 helicopters, and I'm assuming that they are attack helicopters.

OOC: WHere is all the fighting going to happen, a separate thread?

OOC: WHere is all the fighting going to happen, a separate thread?

OOC: Most likely, yes.

OOC: Macgruber and I have had... dealings with North Defese. He's a little hard to play with. And Strator, are you going to acknowledge the bombing against the South?

If you would be a bit more specific about what happened on your part, then I can, you stated that there were two topols, I don't know of any topols which have six warheads, as you later referred to your twelve warheads. Also, this may be wrong, but I thought HSL were choppers?

Ill make a new thread as I actually missed that post as this one is so clustered with things irrelevant for me to read.

Well, actually, I was hoping you would pick them up, on a ship or something, it doesn't matter. The 50 helicopters are there for attack operations. I got them in a telegram from somebody supporting my nation when I nearly went to war, along with other weapons, but he didn't actually say what most of his weapons were. Anyway, he gave me 100 helicopters, and I'm assuming that they are attack helicopters.

I don't know how many i can pick up seeing that i already am using almost my entire navy and civilian vessels as well. I could send 10 super hercules that hold 92 passengers or 64 airborne troops each, 12 C-17 Globemaster III that hold 102 troops each an also 2 LHD Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships that hold 2000 men each and they have helipads on the top. you can set them to ferry your men across, trip at a time and maybe you can find more transports to help with that.

War thread now made ===> Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=585695)

TO: Emperor Mwto'ar Uganda-Sambizie
FROM: Diplomatic Command, Protectorate of Lyras

Imperator

I pen these words to you in the hope to clear up some misconstrusions that your last communication appears to have highlighted. Given the perspective your words reveal, I can understand your concerns, and in your place would share them. By your sufference I would address each of the points you raise, one at a time, and hopefully illustrate to you the rationale behind the Lyran issue of the proclamation that has now been so widely circulated.

We have no desire to besmirch Stratorian sovereignty by imposing upon it that which constitutes Lyran law. Lyran culture, in its own right, has many an idiosyncracy, and we are not blind to the hypocrisy that imposition of order by Lyran oppression would be, particularly given the clarion call in equality's name that we released. Sovereignty is a serious thing, and acting in breach of it is not something undertaken lightly. However, all too often 'sovereignty' is an excuse to claim the right to do whatever a government desires, and damned be whatever is right and proper and just, even in the eyes of those who look to it for protection from the worst of human nature.

No society which enslaves its own people for such trivial crimes as 'speaking too loudly' and 'looking lost' can claim to be acting in accordance with the will of its people, or with their interests at heart or in mind. We will not stand idly by, nor would conscience allow us to.

Re-education, we would hold, should for the most part be un-necessary. Strator is more than capable of running itself, for the most part. But the practice of enslaving its citizenry is not, cannot, be what stems from the will of a free people. No one supports laws that can have the state snatch away loved ones for barely imagined slights against laws that make a mockery of the concept, only to be sold overseas for the most menial or dangerous of tasks.

It is the intent of the Protectorate to remove that heirachy which so heinously tramples the rights of its own citizens, and allow those selfsame citizens to, free (perhaps for the first time) from oppression, advocate a state and government which gives due concern to the rights and priviledges that citizenship conveys. The Lyran presence will be present only until such time as such a condition can be arrived upon, and the flagrant disregard for basic fundamentals of human rights has ceased. We are not interested in their natural resources, nor their markets, nor their land, nor their people, save in the fact of that selfsame people's inherent dignity and worth as human beings, nor anything else that they hold as theirs.

We cannot vouch for the intent of all who rise to arms behind us. But we can assure you of our honourable intent, and our commitment to ensure the safety and freedom of every man of every race and creed, such as we are able. Here, we are able, and here we are willing. We can further assure each and every person that reads these words that while the lambda banner flies in Strator, honour shall be upheld, and no man or unit or army or state shall be held exempt from the requirements to maintain good and decent conduct.

I am always more than happy to take questions, should you wish to pose them.

With sincere regards, and in genuine hope

Field Marshal George Wallins
Director
Diplomatic Command
Bredubar
Protectorate of Lyras




OOC to everyone else: Sorry about the delay. More coming. This is now the diplomacy thread. War will be elsewhere. Link added shortly.

ooc: strator already has a link to the war thread...

OOC: Aye.. noted. My kids are impinging upon my time, and I missed that... but have since found it :P.

I don't know how many i can pick up seeing that i already am using almost my entire navy and civilian vessels as well. I could send 10 super hercules that hold 92 passengers or 64 airborne troops each, 12 C-17 Globemaster III that hold 102 troops each an also 2 LHD Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ships that hold 2000 men each and they have helipads on the top. you can set them to ferry your men across, trip at a time and maybe you can find more transports to help with that.


Alright, I guess I'll use those, and borrow some cargo ships or something to get all of my men there.

ooc: strator already has a link to the war thread...

ooc: Not to be rude but that thread does not seem to be shaping up as a shining example of good roleplay so far (obviously not Strator's fault). Some minor newb actions is one thing but the first page is already mostly spam.

Perhaps Lyras when you are ready you could just create a new thread? Threads on NS that start poorly rarely seem to end well, is all.

Some minor newb actions is one thing but the first page is already mostly spam

partly my fault but i saw it was going to hell anyhow:)

OOC: War thread is already spammed, which kinda sucks. It appears that the peace conference won't be happening. I probably would have boycotted it due to the lack of neutrality of the host.

Leocardia declares its international support in Lyras

The United Worker's Republic of Leocardia declares its international support for Lyras in this brink-of-conflict situation. Aggressively urging, the Leocardian military will steer clear for any defensive support given and/or requested by our Lyran allies. We will fight alongside with the Lyrans no matter what, and we will never retreat until we victor. All administrative regions inside Leocardia will be ordered to dispatch 30% of their military except for the Kika Mana Defensive Branch. Immediately, the Republican government has wired $600 billion to the Lyran government in defensive military aid, with only one last message: "We'll be back soon."

The Armed Republic of Nachmere is frustrated by the slow pace of this coalition. As we speak, Startor is combating several nations with goals similar to our goals. These nations acted prematurely but if we do not help them soon, we are loosing a valuable oppertunity.

To Nachmere:

Why doesn't the armed republic of Nachmere come and join them, the odds are still against me. Or are your people just cowards and hypocrites. You have good reason to be afraid though, I shall crush my assailants and bring death to their lands. I find you to be cowards, who shy from battle until victory is an absolute certainty. At least these other nations who have set themselves upon me have attacked with only 3 to 1 odds in favor of them. The nations of this coalition are not warmongers and problem stirrers such as you, they hold back most likely because they have honor. This you lack.

In all sincerity,
Augustus Stratorius Rex III
Lord Archon of the dominion

To: "Lord Archon" Stratorius

To go to war without regard to consequences is the act of fools, not brave men. As I write our forces are training for the mission of invading your country and ending your ridicules notion of a “loved dictator”. You may sit and wait, and be completely sure, we are coming!

I have offered you my advice again and again, that slavery is not worth the death and destruction being brought upon your people. The trouble you face now will be multiplied a dozen times when the major members of this coalition advance to meet you in the field of combat. You are a powerful ruler, but you are not a good leader to your people, you are leading them to the abyss.

We in Nachmere had a man, who called himself a king and thought he knew better than his own people. We hung him. I can assure you that if my forces are the first to reach you, in the damp cold bunker you will hide in, they will deal with you in the same manner.

Ray Ginger, President of the Armed Republic of Nachmere,
On Behalf of the people of Nachmere.

OOC: Can everyone just stop for a moment? Everyone can see Strator is about to get masscared by a couple dozen of nations. May I suggest we keep this conflict strictly closed to FA & Allies (optional) vs Strator & Allies (optional)?

ooc: i joined this from page one and my nation is small i cant see what huge diffrence i make...

To Nachmere:

Ah yes, I fear you indeed, you who speak for the many nations greater than yourself. You speak without the backing of the coalition. and even if they do back you up, let them come. You speak as if you know my people, but clearly you do not. Even if they do not agree with a concept, to retreat, to give in or to surrender is not an option. We are a proud race, and we have right to be. Come at me if you will. Should fate see fit, I shall be the one who hangs you Mr.Ginger.

In all sincerity,
Augustus Stratorius Rex III
Lord Archon of the dominion

OOC:

To Lynion: I wouldn't say massacred, I am just barely out numbered in terms of nation size, but they can't commit their full military, which is likely a smaller percentage than mine anyway. I would say the battle involves equal forces. But I'm not gonna admit the IC lest I tempt the other nations to attack me :-P

To: "Lord Archon" Stratorius

I do not speak for the coalition, I simply warn you of what will happen. My nation is small, but it will grow. If by some miracle your pathetic excuse for a moral system will prevail in this conflict, I assure you when my nation has the resources to fight you alone, we will. As for now, we lack the offensive capabilities to engage you by our selves. I will not throw my entire nation into a fight it cannot win unless its in defence of our soil.

You threaten to bring the fight to us. You may try. We will fight you on every slope of every mountain. Each man and woman from 16-65 in my country is trained as a marksman and issued a rifle to their homes. And considering the freedoms they were given by their current form of government, I doubt they would welcome you to their homes. A rifle shall await you behind every blade of grass.

Ray Ginger, President of the Armed Republic of Nachmere,
On Behalf of the people of Nachmere.

ooc: its really hard for me to RP this ugly argument...

OOC: I love how Lyras gave Strator one month, and everyone jumped the gun and started attacking. What am I, the only one respecting the one-month credit?

OOC: Don't lump me in with them. Some members of II, such as Lamoni, Lyras, and ourselves still care about making a good RP above ham-handed wang waving.

The Armed Republic of Nachmere is frustrated by the slow pace of this coalition. As we speak, Startor is combating several nations with goals similar to our goals. These nations acted prematurely but if we do not help them soon, we are loosing a valuable oppertunity.

Official Communication to the Government of Nachmere
Denomination of Foreign Diplomacy

We cannot reply on behalf of Lyras, Sumer, Lamoni, or indeed any other government besides our own; but as for the Greater Economic Union's part perhaps we can answer your question. First there is the matter of the one-month period of grace which was given by Lyras; since a large (though not entire) part of Manth's interest in this conflict is to support our allies in Lamoni, and since they are abiding by the one-month period of grace, the Union will do so as well.

Second and on a more practical level, an amphibious assault involving hundreds of divisions and millions of troops is not something that should be rushed. Logistics for the campaign are being coordinated as we write among half a dozen nations and will involve tens of thousands of ships; the men are not yet ready and those ships are not yet in position, and they cannot simply be willed into place. In addition to troops, stockpiles of fuel, munitions, food, and every sort of materiel necessary for an invasion must be built up and prepared for shipping if the attack is to succeed, and we have not even mentioned the requirement for careful reconnaissance and intelligence-gathering to determine the correct locations to strike. Rushing such a complex operation will simply result in the same type of chaos and disorganization that we have already observed crippling the early attacks on Strator. To put it quite simply if we attempted a long-range amphibious operation in the same sort of rushed disorganization that these small nations have, we would be throwing away any advantage we might have, in superior numbers, training, equipment or otherwise, and virtually dooming ourselves to failure.

Third, the Union is willing to send its soldiers into danger to end the Stratorian slave trade; this is not the same as being willing to sacrifice the lives of our men to feed the impetuous glory-seeking of small and belligerent nations. Those governments which have rushed half-prepared to war did so out of arrogance and pride, as is clear from their communications; they are making a mess out of it, as is clear from our intelligence reports and the observations of our fleets. The Union would not be greatly thrilled to support such behavior even would such support cause only the most minor disruptions to our plans. Seeing as in fact the disruptions would be major and probably disasterous, we would much prefer to let those governments reap the fruits of arrogance than to waste Manthian lives and botch our own operations in a rush to rescue them from the situation they so ardently desired for themselves.

In other words, our soldiers are being sent to fight for freedom, not for pride.

To: New Manath

Your position is completely understood, and as a minor member of this coalition we accpet it. We did however send a small air support group to assist in the current fighting.

Our forces are currently training with yours and Lamonis to conduct a more effective assualt on Strator. But we could not ignore the men fighting there right now and look away from the fact that we can afford to help.

Ray Ginger, President of the Armed Republic of Nachmere,
On Behalf of the people of Nachmere.

*BUMP* so I can know whats going on

Peace summit thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14642024#post14642024

Official Tribal Chiefdom of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

"Advancing Respect and Honour"

To: <Open Communication>
From: “Rising Tiger” Chieftain of the White Phoenix Tribe, Chieftain of Tribal Vetaka, Supreme Commanding Admiral in Chief of the Vetakan Defence Forces

Subject: Third Stratortian Slave Crisis

Greetings,

The People of Vetaka firstly in the incarnation of the Dominion, secondly in the incarnation of the Free Dominion and now in their incarnation as the Tribal Chiefdom have always vehemently, valiantly and honourably opposed Slavery in all its forms. It is an opposition that has twice brought Vetaka to the brink of conflict with the Stratorian Nation. It is an opposition that has led Vetaka to mount military action both conventionally and unconventionally to oppose the vile and despicable activity. It is an opposition that has led Vetaka to lead the foundation of the Theeb Accords and Strando Protocol international documents that go some way to legally define slavery and structure its subsequent opposition.

The Vetakan Opposition to Slavery will continue to guide and influence our Foreign Policy for years to come, it is due to domestic troubles namely dealing with the after effects of the Lansing Virus that Vetaka has not committed military forces to the international communities operations in countering Strator. It is due to these domestic troubles that Vetaka has not sent diplomatic representation to the Armance Peace Summit within the honoured nation of Yanitaria. However it should be noted that the opinions of honoured Christine Friedrich and Molly DeLéan of Wagdog and Animarina respectively represent the opinions of myself and Vetaka as such any outcome of the Summit agreed by them will be agreed by Vetaka by proxy.

It is my hope that the International Community will do what is required to fight the practice of Slavery in our absence. It is my hope that what is required will be done and finally the dream of a slave free world will be realised.

I bow to no man but I bow to you

Rising Tiger

Chieftain of the White Phoenix Tribe
Chieftain of the Tribal Chiefdom of Vetaka
Supreme Commanding Admiral in Chief of the Vetakan Defence Forces