NationStates Jolt Archive


Caving in Kraveska

Blackhelm Confederacy
25-02-2009, 23:40
OOC: I want to point out, right here and now, that all threats made to Kraveska were in OOC, and there is absolutely no way that any of the following actions can be traced back to Griffincrest.

IC:

Claudius Griffincrest pondered over just what to do about the Kraveska situation for several hours, hearing and denying the many ideas on just how to go about with the nations destruction. Finally, Claudius had narrowed the invasion idea down to just two choices, both intended to avoid a naval conflict that would undoubtedly ensue when the world police came to aide the tiny nation. One choice, a massive orbital drop, something entirely untested by Griffincrest, and to his knowledge, anybody else. The other was a tactic that had worked for them before.

A few hours later, a Kubran national stood on line at Pime Taradox International Airport, Zukariaa. A bit further back, a Royal British national casually awaited his turn to pass through security, and just behind him, a pair of Sylvonian brothers. These men, all seemingly unconnected, were preparing to board a flight to Kraveska.

Within hours, the men had arrived, and made their way to three different hotels. As their plane landed, a large fishing ship far out to sea let out a small boat, which made its way towards the Kraveskan shore.

At the same time, at Khu International Airport in Sulaymaan, another group was preparing for their flight to Kraveska. A Stratorian man looked impatient as guards looked through his baggages. Ahead of him, already looking for his gate, an Alversian was asking a security guard for directions. Stepping out of a cab, a British Londinian grabbed his belongings and entered the airport. Finally, capping off the group, a 50 something year old Wanderjarian was sitting at a fast food stand in the airport food lounge, waiting for his flight.

These men too, would make their way to four different hotels around Kraveska. Once there, all they had to do was wait.
Kraveska
25-02-2009, 23:48
Listen up. We DO NOT want war. We did have the right to secede from your alliance, and if you make any hostile action toward us, it will not be beneficial to your cause.
Blackhelm Confederacy
25-02-2009, 23:57
War? No war here, i see no armies, no fleets, no aircraft....just play....mwahahahaha
Anghele
25-02-2009, 23:57
SECRET IC

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We offer our logistical support to the great nation of the Blackhelm Confederacy.

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Ralkovia
25-02-2009, 23:59
(Anghele you do realize that their is no war and that not even Kraveska knows whats going on)
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-02-2009, 00:00
Secret IC: Please hold up, nothing is happening yet. We appreciate your enthusiasm. Due to it, you shall be rewarded. Thank You.
Anghele
26-02-2009, 00:01
(Anghele you do realize that their is no war and that not even Kraveska knows whats going on)



OOC: Even so,we express our support.How do you know,that they aren´t hitmans?

By the way,that was a Secret IC message.
Zoingo
26-02-2009, 00:09
ooc: that doesn't mean that people can't reply ooc'ly.
Lynion
26-02-2009, 00:16
OOC: BC stop being a bully.
Zoingo
26-02-2009, 00:20
ooc: I don't think anything you say can change his mind Lynion.
Deserted Territories
26-02-2009, 00:26
OOC: please direct all "CA stop being a bully" comments to the Q&A
Lynion
26-02-2009, 00:47
OOC: Question: Why would I bother go there?
South Defese
26-02-2009, 00:52
ooc: I already have a naval task force near Kraveska's coastline. Its rather large, unwise to attempt an air assult since the 5 air craft carriars carry state-of-the-art planes and missle defences ect. ect.
Salzland
26-02-2009, 00:58
Listen up. We DO NOT want war. We did have the right to secede from your alliance, and if you make any hostile action toward us, it will not be beneficial to your cause.

OOC: Dude. Just. Ignore. Them. They can't do anything to you without your active participation in the thread, and if they follow you around to multiple threads pestering you, report them to the mods.

Problem solved.
Anghele
26-02-2009, 01:00
ooc: I already have a naval task force near Kraveska's coastline. Its rather large, unwise to attempt an air assult since the 5 air craft carriars carry state-of-the-art planes and missle defences ect. ect.


OOC: I would like to see your naval task force survive a bombing run of my bomber squadrons.

I´m talking about a lot of fully loaded bombers.
South Defese
26-02-2009, 01:02
ooc: Im talking about a lot of missles.
Kraveska
26-02-2009, 01:06
To South Defese- Just so you know, there are several large islands off of the Kraveskan coast, so your ships can either be along those or along the mainland coast.
Techno-Soviet
26-02-2009, 01:07
ooc: I'm talking about a fleet of flying aircraft carriers.

:$
Anghele
26-02-2009, 01:09
ooc: Im talking about a lot of missles.



OOC:With a population number of only 125 million,I fail to see how can you really defend yourself against me.

You most certainly do not have enough missiles to deflect all of my bombers.

Exactly how are you going to stop 30 squadrons of B-2 Stealth bombers?

And 60 Squadrons of B-52 bombers?

25 of B1B Lancer Supersonic bombers?

How can you counter such a massive number of missiles and bombs dropped by them? I shall crush your fleet with my Air Force.

Not to mention,that if I wanted to,I would send my Navy,that would easily destroy you pitty vessels.
Third Spanish States
26-02-2009, 01:11
(OOC: Flying carriers = Epic Fail (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5443&view=findpost&p=3466479) )
Kraveska
26-02-2009, 01:12
Citizens of Kraveska are now being trained in bomb survival drills. Bomb shelters are being constructed in major cities.
Anghele
26-02-2009, 01:13
(OOC: Flying carriers = Epic Fail (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5443&view=findpost&p=3466479) )

OOC:Purchase in your storefront.
Techno-Soviet
26-02-2009, 01:15
OOC: I got them from Ustio North's storefront. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=556270) Ustio didn't go to NSD.

I happened to buy five of them. :$

And enough aircraft 5.5 gen. aircraft to fill them. :$

Specifically, your aircraft, because they were pretty. :$
South Defese
26-02-2009, 01:26
I can always call a summit meeting with North Defese, want to take a gander at his population?

On another note:
China has a population in the billions, and they still make crappy toys.
Gesford
26-02-2009, 01:33
This is for you, Kraveska:

OOC: Dude. Just. Ignore. Them. They can't do anything to you without your active participation in the thread, and if they follow you around to multiple threads pestering you, report them to the mods.

He's right. Take his advice. Problem solved.
Anghele
26-02-2009, 01:55
I can always call a summit meeting with North Defese, want to take a gander at his population?

On another note:
China has a population in the billions, and they still make crappy toys.

OOC:And I still can kick both your asses without a summit meeting.If I need one,I will summit the Alliance,then we shall see what the two Defese Nations can do about it.

Check my posts,or ask any frequent member on this forum,I purchase more arms than most nations even the ones bigger than me,I purchase arms of all kinds,even nuclear ones.Check my M.A.C Heavy Industries posts to view the quantities I´m talking about.I can assure you that everything I buy is of the upmost quality,not chinese made toys.
United Gordonopia
26-02-2009, 02:01
ooc: ya, he purchased about 20,000,000 of one of my assault rifles. And I've seen him buy a lot more then that.
Alversia
26-02-2009, 02:07
At the same time, at Khu International Airport in Sulaymaan, another group was preparing for their flight to Kraveska. A Stratorian man looked impatient as guards looked through his baggages. Ahead of him, already looking for his gate, an Alversian was asking a security guard for directions. Stepping out of a cab, a British Londinian grabbed his belongings and entered the airport. Finally, capping off the group, a 50 something year old Wanderjarian was sitting at a fast food stand in the airport food lounge, waiting for his flight.

These men too, would make their way to four different hotels around Kraveska. Once there, all they had to do was wait.

OOC: Look, I don't know what's going on this thread and, to be honest, I don't care. What I do care about is my Citizens being used as Covert operatives to wage war on a country which I bear no ill will against. I don't even mind the idea of it, it's the fact that you did it without asking for my permission or even telling me what you were doing.

So kindly please edit that post to make it someone other than an Alversian. What's wrong with choosing an NPC nation or one that doesn't exist anymore?
Leistung
26-02-2009, 04:03
OOC: Anghele tends to buy up everything in sight with absolutely no monetary backing, as if the government can print money to cover the purchases without runaway inflation. At this point, Anghele is paying such ridiculous interest on all the debt he has run up that he is in no position to be threatening anyone.
Allanea
26-02-2009, 04:08
(OOC: Flying carriers = Epic Fail (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5443&view=findpost&p=3466479) )

OOC: Nobody cares.
Allanea
26-02-2009, 04:15
OOC: Also, Griffincrest, what happened to your invasion of me? Is it still on?
Imperial isa
26-02-2009, 04:30
OOC: Anghele tends to buy up everything in sight with absolutely no monetary backing, as if the government can print money to cover the purchases without runaway inflation. At this point, Anghele is paying such ridiculous interest on all the debt he has run up that he is in no position to be threatening anyone.

ooc don't think i've seen a day go by with out seeing Anghele buying something
Techno-Soviet
26-02-2009, 04:52
ooc don't think i've seen a day go by with out seeing Anghele buying something

OOC: More like a million of something. =\
Allanea
26-02-2009, 04:55
[size=1]OOC: Anghele tends to buy up everything in sight with absolutely no monetary backing, as if the government can print money to cover the purchases without runaway inflation.


OOC: His Defense, L&O, and 'Government Waste' come into 15 trillion, and his profits from the storefront he has far exceed that.
Salzland
26-02-2009, 05:00
OOC: More like a million of something. =\

OOC: Oh, I've teased Anghele about that a few times, but in the end it's only play money on the internet. Nobody really cares.
Hurtful Thoughts
26-02-2009, 08:33
OOC: I want to point out, right here and now, that all threats made to Kraveska were in OOC, and there is absolutely no way that any of the following actions can be traced back to Griffincrest.
OOC: yeah, well, you're forgetting 3 important things:
1- You kinda have a reputation for this stuff, and I've had some insider know-how.
The other was a tactic that had worked for them before.
2- I tend to blame everything on your terrorists anyways. See Parthia, yeah, I'm blaming him on you too...
3- I'm a dick. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=496788) And you don't place red-herrings well enough.
Making my spy one of your heads of security wasn't your best move for '06*

Hey-oh!

*The intell he gathered is old and outdated as hell though, but for a time, it was recent enough to catch the previous attempt and record the method/style/tactics used.
I just didn't do anything then because, well, it was Greston...

IC in advance, someone wake me when something actually happens and the OOC BSery dies:
A pleab @ CHIA gets suspicious that something screwy may be going-on in Kraveska, the massive craters were a hint.

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OOC post-script:
Anghele, not sure if you already know this, but...
These (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14551617#post14551617) purchases (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14551580#post14551580) are made after starting hostilities with Kraveska, and it would be very poor form to use them anytime soon in this RP.
Similarily, this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14551237&postcount=610) purchase is best kept 'frozen' for now.

The reasoning is outlined is one of their replies (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14551558&postcount=40)

Otherwise, I'd just insta-field my recently sketched F-7 "uber-fighter" from NSD to replace my aging F-4s (purchased from the CA during more 'friendly' times)... Course, there's also the F-5Ms from V10...

Edit #3: yes, this is glorified tag'N'troll.
Anghele
26-02-2009, 08:56
OOC: Anghele tends to buy up everything in sight with absolutely no monetary backing, as if the government can print money to cover the purchases without runaway inflation. At this point, Anghele is paying such ridiculous interest on all the debt he has run up that he is in no position to be threatening anyone.

OOC: If I were you,I would take another look on HOW I make my purchases.

You will notice that I always arrange payment plans to avoid debt buildup.
Anghele
26-02-2009, 08:58
OOC: yeah, well, you're forgetting 3 important things:
1- You kinda have a reputation for this stuff, and I've had some insider know-how.

2- I tend to blame everything on your terrorists anyways. See Parthia, yeah, I'm blaming him on you too...
3- I'm a dick. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=496788) And you don't place red-herrings well enough.
Making my spy one of your heads of security wasn't your best move for '06*

Hey-oh!

*The intell he gathered is old and outdated as hell though, but for a time, it was recent enough to catch the previous attempt and record the method/style/tactics used.
I just didn't do anything then because, well, it was Greston...

IC in advance, someone wake me when something actually happens and the OOC BSery dies:
A pleab @ CHIA gets suspicious that something screwy may be going-on in Kraveska, the massive craters were a hint.

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Anghele, not sure if you already know this, but...
These (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14551617#post14551617) purchases (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14551580#post14551580) are made after starting hostilities with Kraveska, and it would be very poor form to use them in this RP.

OOC: I wouldn´t use that equipment,unless there was a full scale war waged against me.For the time being,I´m not doing any harm.
Hurtful Thoughts
26-02-2009, 09:22
OOC: If I were you,I would take another look on HOW I make my purchases.

You will notice that I always arrange payment plans to avoid debt buildup.

OOC: I wouldn´t use that equipment,unless there was a full scale war waged against me.For the time being,I´m not doing any harm.
OOC: K, but after reviewing your purchases, and relative size, how on earth do you plan to effectively use all this stuff? Or do you have 80% of it locked in warehouses awaiting a population-boom? (http://englishrussia.com/?p=1910)
Kraveska
26-02-2009, 14:13
A pleab @ CHIA gets suspicious that something screwy may be going-on in Kraveska, the massive craters were a hint.



What do you mean? There are no craters in my country. Or was that a hypothetical statement?
Allanea
26-02-2009, 14:32
Blackhelm may be interested. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=584860)
Hurtful Thoughts
26-02-2009, 16:09
What do you mean? There are no craters in my country. Or was that a hypothetical statement?

Fairly hypothetical.
OOCly I'm assuming that in the end Blackcrest would blow something up, that or commando-raid something/one, kill it, then blow it up on live TV, and decided to save myself the time/effort of timing a post properly and did the IC in advance.

The fact that every CA member is apparently informed of these shindigs in advance helps. Usually the bigger tip-off is when a new member who hasn't learned to tell the dif tween Griffy-O and Blackfederacy decides to castle-swamp "the new threat" with their uber-1337-fleet of "over 9000" ships.

And the correct verb for the title is "spelunking".
Gesford
26-02-2009, 17:22
OOC: Yeah, I'm not buying the "secret IC so let me just fuck your country to shit" bullshit. It is very public that Kraveska left the CA, and its very well known what you do to members that attempt to leave the CA.
Anghele
26-02-2009, 19:44
OOC: K, but after reviewing your purchases, and relative size, how on earth do you plan to effectively use all this stuff? Or do you have 80% of it locked in warehouses awaiting a population-boom? (http://englishrussia.com/?p=1910)

OOC : You got it.Although I have to pay some quite heavy costs from maintenance.
Leistung
26-02-2009, 22:12
OOC : You got it.Although I have to pay some quite heavy costs from maintenance.

OOC: Regardless of your payment plan, the fact remains that when buying everything in sight, you will incur debts. While this normally wouldn't be all that big of a deal, let's remember that your nation has other concerns than just buying up oil and uranium.

The storefront argument, by the way, is a poor one. Despite the fact that you may make, let's say, one trillion dollars, in your storefront, the government only takes a portion of that in taxes. The rest goes towards actually improving the company, paying wages, etc. I co-run a multinational naval production corporation which sells upwards of a trillion dollars worth of merchandise yearly, but that doesn't mean that I can buy up small nations on a daily basis.
Blackhelm Confederacy
26-02-2009, 22:57
OOC: Can we stop with the OOC?

IC:

Seeing as how Kraveskan authorities did not intercept the small boat, it made its way to shore, where the two man crew hopped out and began unloading crates onto the dark, empty beach.

All eight of the men had recieved a color, either black or gold, the colors of Griffincrest, and a time and place to meet on the beach. They would now find out what these things were all for. All of the men from the Zukariaan flight were gold, and the other flight black. The men from the boats explained the rest. The black team was going to target the oil refineries of Kraveska, the gold would strike the banks. Hopefully, with such a small nation, these teams could do some real economic damage.

The two men on the boats handed out assault rifles, bombs, body armor, and other pieces of equipment to the eight men, and then set out for the final part of their mission. They had to find a cargo ship, any cargo ship at all in Kraveskan waters, and set to work lining it with explosives.
Gesford
26-02-2009, 23:18
OOC: You really think anyone cares? Go play with yourself some more.
Alversia
26-02-2009, 23:35
OOC: If you still have an Alversian in this Terrorist Cell then I demand to RP him