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Dear Client,

The Jalanese government has finally decided to sell some of its weapons. Jalanese weapons are known for having a great accuracy but low rate of fire. most weapons available are likely to be semi - automatic weapons. our nation will provide some discounts listed below:

Nations with under 500 million population - 5%
Nations purchasing over 1 billion weapons - 10%
Nations from the same region - 10%

these discounts are accumulative.

Weapon Stocks
Sniper Rifles

PSG1
Price: $12000
Cartridge: 7.62x51mm NATO
Action: Roller-delayed blowback
Muzzle Velocity: 868 m/s (2,848 ft/s)
Effective Range: 100–600 m
Feed System: 5 or 20-round detachable box magazine
Sights: Hendsoldt 6x42 telescopic sight with illuminated reticle

SVD
Price: $5000
cartridge: 7.62x54mmR
action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
muzzle velocity: 830 m/s (2,723 ft/s)
effective range: Up to 800 m sight adjustments for point targets
maximum range: 1,300 m with scope 1,200 m with iron sights
feed system: 10-round detachable box magazine
sights: PSO-1 telescopic sight and iron sights with an adjustable rear notch sight

QBU-88
Price: $4500
cartridge: 5.8 x 42 mm (with non-standard loading)
action: Gas-operated, Rotating bolt
effective range: 800 m
Feed System: 10-round detachable box magazine
sights: 3-9x40, 6-24x44 telescopic sights

Assault Rifles

M4 carbine
Price: $2000
cartridge: 5.56x45mm NATO
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Rate of Fire: 700–950 round/min cyclic
Muzzle velocity: 2,900 ft/s (884 m/s)
feed System: 30 round box magazine or other STANAG Magazines.

AK-47
Price: $1500
cartridge: 7.62x39mm M43
Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Rate of Fire: 600 rounds/min
Muzzle Velocity: 715 m/s (2,346 ft/s)
Effective Range: 100–800 sight adjustments m
Feed System: 30-round detachable box magazine, also compatible with 40-round box or 75-round drum magazines from the RPK
Sights: Adjustable iron sights, 378 mm (14.9 in) sight radius

will be updated later

and do your own calculations when you buy weapons.

M.A.C Heavy Industries | Defense

We wish to enquire if your storefront is for sale,either entirely or by shares.

For the entire corporation we offer;

$4.370.540.980.100 [Trillion] Universal Standard Dollars.

Jalanese Arms would become an M.A.C Heavy Industries partner and subsidiary.

Along with this M.A.C agrees on paying all benefits and retirement packages to all employees.All weapons and future developments of the company will be sold in my storefront with the acknowledgments of the Technologies and vehicles creators and developers aswell.We will also give you a 45% royality on all current and future designs for up to thirty years (NS, see storefront) that the product is being sold on the market.

If you only have shares to sell,and not the entire corporation,please name your price.

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For any inquiries please contact us:

M.A.C Direct Line: 21-456-3450

M.A.C@DefenseNet.Agle

Thank you,

M.A.C Heavy Industries Defense Management.

from: Jala Soma
to: Anghele

This storefront is NOT for sale and we will NEVER even think about selling it!

are you threatening me?

OOC: dude seriously i just don't want to stop the topic already just live with it jeez!

OOC: First of all, welcome to the Nationstates forums. Second of all, there are several glaring issues about your storefront.

1) Try to avoid selling RL weaponry. Anyone can RP having said weapons so it is somewhat pointless to sell them! It also shows that you have put a great amount of time and thought into your storefront if it is primarily custom designs. I'll post a link to the NS Draftroom at the bottom of my post.

2) Check your pricing, you can buy an AK-47 for less then $200 if you know where to look. Even the M4's price rarely reaches above $1000 unless you are heavily modifying it. A price of $12,000 dollars for a PSG-1 is just ridiculous considering you can get much betters sniper rifles for a fraction of the cost.

3) If you must make an RL weapons storefront, then at least have a lot to sell. Five just doesn't cut it.

4) NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE will buy 1 Billion weapons! Even my nation, which has conscription and a massive population, has an army of only around 14 million strong (that's cumulative for all my military plus the logistical support and potential conscripts). Unless you are planning on giving every last citizen in your nation a firearm, then just don't even include that discount.

As promised, here is the link to the NS Draftroom:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx

OOC:dude give me a break alright i said it will get updated soon!

OOC:dude give me a break alright i said it will get updated soon!

OOC: What's with the hostility? It's generally considered rude when you lash out at the people who try help you. Even your IC posts are overly hostile and ludicrously short.

OOC: listen, i told you i was going to update it but you guys don't listen i got some weirdo threatening to invade my country then yes, it makes sense that i am acting like this!

OOC: listen, i told you i was going to update it but you guys don't listen i got some weirdo threatening to invade my country then yes, it makes sense that i am acting like this!

OOC: Anghele is an excellent business RPer, so it is somewhat understandable what his mood would be if he were turned down so brusquely.

ooc: well do you think I am enjoying this? i just want to keep it for myself and he starts threatening to invade my country?

I'm going to throw my opinion in here because i'm getting throughly annoyed.

First off, Anghele provoked him.

Secondly, yes you guys are offering "constructive criticism" but your being so pedantic that it's not hard to see why Jalanat feels as if he's not only being ganged up on but he's also being forced into a corner.

Lastly I'm going to vent my irritation here because i've been seeing this happen here ALOT. Every single time a new RPer comes into this area and actually presents themselves in a manner which isn't "Nukes For N00bs I Is Goonna nuke U all" and actually gives it a good go the first thing everyone does is hold up their work and go about lacerating it.

These people are new to this! Yes thare are "standards" but you don't throw them up against the wall and demand that they do "this that and this" immediatly or else face being ostracized. It doens't help either that their threads become filled with criticsm which is mostly negative (no i'm not directing this at you Volzgrad so you know before I loose it entirely somewhere along the next few lines) so possible RPers who show potential actually get marginalized and probably decide to never come back.

It's as if the NS forums is more like an exclusive club for the privileged, most of which think they are so good and righteous at what they do that they can shove their own styles and methods down the newcomers throats. No wonder Role Play around here is often conducted between groups who don't often interact with each other; most are to snobbish to consider role playing with an unknown quantity in the fear it might tarnish their reputation.

And no again i'm not directing this at anyone in particualr but I see this happening alot, too often unfortunatly and it's beginnign to irk me. Hell I don't know what half the people who read this will think of me or what I wrote, I may have even marginalized myself in the minds of those who are about to attack my post. But I feel this kind of thing has to be said, yes we need standards around here to have a good Role Play but you can't expect newcomers to get to grips with it immediatly, maybe it would be better if people hand held them in role play rather than fling criticism at them.

Sorry, needed to get that out my system.

OOC: Anghele is an excellent business RPer, so it is somewhat understandable what his mood would be if he were turned down so brusquely.



OOC: Thank you very much for the compliment ;) ,you have been granted a 50% discount in my storefront.

OOC: than you, that would clear this entire mess up Soviet

OOC: than you, that would clear this entire mess up Soviet

True, well, from my point of view anyway. I will make this clear however, your reply to Anghele's initial response was BAD, BUT that being said, Anghele should have taken into account that you are (let's be blunt) a newb, perhaps a more experienced role player such as him should have been somewhat more tolerant and patient however.

OOC:
Well said USU.

Jalanat: its a nice first attempt at a storfront, not too complex. it could use a little refinement but as you said its a WiP. Should you want or desire any assistance please feel to ask.

One thing I would say is that if you don't want Anghele posting in your forum and you don't wan tto Rp a war with him then you simply don't have to, the whole point of RP on NS is that it has to be mutually concensual.

Volzgrad: The prices aren't too far off the mark for low production runs (and more or less bang on the PSG-1 it is a ludircrously expensive rifle simply because no .30 cal semo auto rifle was even close to it at its time of introduction).

OOC: well i must admit it was rather short since i really did not have a "Super awesome" role playing story to put with it. i mean how could i expect someone immediately wants to buy it from me if i only just started the storefront.