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IC: Parliament session was held today at 8.40pm on the 24.02.09 regarding nuclear warheads which the Federation of Serbian Soviet Union has in possession. It has been announced that nuclear warheads of 500,200 and 100MT nuclear warheads is to be safely dismantled and disposed due to the sizes of these warheads being too large and takes up too much space in the storage facilities of storing nuclear arms.

Federation of Serbian Soviet Union wishes to invite a nation to send in it's people to safely dispose of large nuclear arms and dismantle them and convert them to energy which can be used to power up the five nuclear powerplants which are inside the FSSU territory.

It has been decided that the nation will only be possessing smaller nuclear arms with 50MT being the largest ever built in FSSU with the exception of 100,200 and 500MT warheads.

OOC: Dude, you're too small to have any nukes at all, especially 100,200 and 500MTs. You have to have one-hundred million people to have any sort of effective nuclear program, or at least that's the generally accepted rule.

OOC: Dude, you're too small to have any nukes at all, especially 100,200 and 500MTs. You have to have one-hundred million people to have any sort of effective nuclear program, or at least that's the generally accepted rule.

OOC: It is only a recommendation. It is not a requirement. However we do possess such nuclear weapons however my nation wishes to dismantle them and dispose of them safely, however we will only be keeping the 50MT warheads only and in the next few weeks, we will resume our nuclear program and produce mainly kiloton nuclear weapons.

OOC: *facepalms* Dude, 500MT is an Extinction Level size for a nuke! Unless you plan on killing your own country once you use it, that is unless you have some sort of uber force field protecting your country.

I don't feel comfortable knowing that people are building 500 megaton nukes.

OOC:
*facepalms*

OOC: Do you even know what 'OOC' means. It means "Out Of Character" and is meant to express thoughts that aren't from your nation IC (In Character). Also, how many times are you going to try and fit the word "however" in to one post? You can't have a nuclear program, especially that powerful. The population thing isn't a "recomendation" it's a "requirement". Read the stickies!

OOC: Meow! everyone stop getting so bitchy, he's not harming anyone so just leave him alone, this is a place for role play not moaning

OOC: Meow! everyone stop getting so bitchy, he's not harming anyone so just leave him alone, this is a place for role play not moaning

OOC: Dude, we are trying to not have him Godmod if he does an RP, as I could see that if he's getting beaten he'd use his 500MT nuke. That would be GMing.

OOC: Dude, we are trying to not have him Godmod if he does an RP, as I could see that if he's getting beaten he'd use his 500MT nuke. That would be GMing.

OOC: The fact is i am not godmoding, if i was then all i would do is declare war on every nation, nuke every nation and claim world domination, now that would be godmoding but it's not going to happen. So lay off me everyone please.

OOC: The fact is i am not godmoding, if i was then all i would do is declare war on every nation, nuke every nation and claim world domination, now that would be godmoding but it's not going to happen. So lay off me everyone please.

OOC: If you want everyone to lay off, then completely disband your Nuclear weapons program. And, you are techincally GodModding with that Extinction Level-sized 500MT nuke, as no one else has one or would make one.

OOC: The fact is i am not godmoding, if i was then all i would do is declare war on every nation, nuke every nation and claim world domination, now that would be godmoding but it's not going to happen. So lay off me everyone please.

OOC: Actually, people would just ignore you, and possibly laugh at you.

Why, rather than continuing the saga in your quest to have nukes, don't you try entering someone elses RP and doind some meaningful RPing. II isn't all about having nukes and declaring war on other people you know.

((OOC: 500MT would offset the trajectory of Earth.))

OOC: I'm fairly certain it would also ignite every tree on the earth and instantly kill all human life as we know it.

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OCC: To get the thread back on track, I guess I'll be the first IC post. Before that though, I thought a few comments that others have brought should be addressed. While, 100MT, 200MT and 500MT nuclear weapons would be very impractical weapons of war to due their size and bulk, which in of itself sort of makes them impossible. However, the simple fact is while they certainly would be impractical weapons only useful for propaganda purposes, they are most certainly possible given the modern advances in nuclear weapons technology over the past few decades, if any nation had the political will to build them. Thankfully, most don’t and it’s good to see the nations of the world getting pissed, rightly so, at a nation a be it in OCC about possessing weapons of such extreme magnitude.

IC: With a long history of operating, maintaining, storing and disposing of nuclear material of all kinds, our nation offers it’s services in assisting you in disposing of these deadly weapons by recycling their nuclear material into more practically applications like power generation. Furthermore, we’re glad to see that another enlightened nation has seen the light of day when it comes to large MT nuclear weapons and their use. While, we can’t dictate to you on what your nation does. We can only strongly encourage you to further reduce your nuclear arsenal to nothing larger than a 1MT warhead, if that.

If, in agreement with your nation, our government will follow up with a submitted offer on a cost estimate for the warheads disposal and/or conversion.

Sincerely, Chancellor Wolfgang Muller

OOC: I just realized something else that makes FSSU's posting so unsettling. It's the commas.

OOC: Serbia, flesh out your nation beyond that it wants nukes and I think I would be mostly fine with this OOC. I'd want to know at least the name of your current leader and what sort of government he leads, and that is at least beyond the bare bones of what they want to do (get nuclear weapons). After that come up with a history and culture, really for me I do not count a nations population or their GDP or something like that, in fact my NS profile reflects my nation in no way, instead I just focus on how their nation is like in character.

OCC: To get the thread back on track, I guess I'll be the first IC post. Before that though, I thought a few comments that others have brought should be addressed. While, 100MT, 200MT and 500MT nuclear weapons would be very impractical weapons of war to due their size and bulk, which in of itself sort of makes them impossible. However, the simple fact is while they certainly would be impractical weapons only useful for propaganda purposes, they are most certainly possible given the modern advances in nuclear weapons technology over the past few decades, if any nation had the political will to build them. Thankfully, most don’t and it’s good to see the nations of the world getting pissed, rightly so, at a nation a be it in OCC about possessing weapons of such extreme magnitude.

IC: With a long history of operating, maintaining, storing and disposing of nuclear material of all kinds, our nation offers it’s services in assisting you in disposing of these deadly weapons by recycling their nuclear material into more practically applications like power generation. Furthermore, we’re glad to see that another enlightened nation has seen the light of day when it comes to large MT nuclear weapons and their use. While, we can’t dictate to you on what your nation does. We can only strongly encourage you to further reduce your nuclear arsenal to nothing larger than a 1MT warhead, if that.

If, in agreement with your nation, our government will follow up with a submitted offer on a cost estimate for the warheads disposal and/or conversion.

Sincerely, Chancellor Wolfgang Muller

IC: We would like to dismantle all the 500MT and 200MT warheads and turn them into nuclear energy to provide energy to the five nuclear powerplants that my nation has.

The Federation of Serbian Soviet Union will however in the mean time keep the 100MT and the 50MT warheads, and in the near future, we will dismantle them after the Nuclear Program has resumed which my nation will only be building Kiloton warheads and MT warheads consisting of 1MT, 2MT, 5MT, 10MT and 20MT warheads as max, upon the completion of smaller nuclear warheads, FSSU will dismantle all the 100MT and the 50MT warheads.

The Federation of Serbian Soviet Union welcomes the assistence of your nation in assisting us with the dismantle of the 500MT and the 200MT warheads, we would like upon request to have your services extended in our nation with a further extension of dismantling the rest of the warheads in the near future which have been produced.

Updates

The Federation of Serbian Soviet Union officially dismantled all of it's 500MT and 200MT warheads and has now been converted into nuclear energy which will be providing our five powerplants of two years worth of nuclear energy.

The Nuclear Proliferation program has also been downgraded and downsized and the program has officially been postponed for an additional two months real time and the program will however be up for review and the decision will take place weather to cancle the project or to postpone it further.

OOC: There are a lot of uneducated people in this thread. A 500 MT nuke is technically possible to develop if it's a staged thermonuclear design, but is rather useless since there would be no practical way to deliver it in a timely fashion and would be hell to maintain.

And while it would cause a lot of damage, it can't do anything retarded like kill all life on earth instantly or change the Earth's orbit.

IC: We would like to dismantle all the 500MT and 200MT warheads and turn them into nuclear energy to provide energy to the five nuclear powerplants that my nation has.

The Federation of Serbian Soviet Union will however in the mean time keep the 100MT and the 50MT warheads, and in the near future, we will dismantle them after the Nuclear Program has resumed which my nation will only be building Kiloton warheads and MT warheads consisting of 1MT, 2MT, 5MT, 10MT and 20MT warheads as max, upon the completion of smaller nuclear warheads, FSSU will dismantle all the 100MT and the 50MT warheads.

The Federation of Serbian Soviet Union welcomes the assistence of your nation in assisting us with the dismantle of the 500MT and the 200MT warheads, we would like upon request to have your services extended in our nation with a further extension of dismantling the rest of the warheads in the near future which have been produced.

OCC: This post might be redundant as from the looks of things, you went ahead already and dismantled the warheads yourself.

SIC: While, were sadden to hear you won't be disposing of your other large MT warheads, we fully understand your position and can only hope in the future you see the folly of owning nuclear warheads of such size. Until, such time were prepared to offer your nation our services for a small fee in disposing of these weapons by converting their various components for civilian use. Depending on the number of warheads, complete disposal may take some time. If in agreement with your government, we require $5 million per 500MT warhead and $2 million per 200MT warhead. Which, can be paid in installments of your desired size of your choosing if so desired. As part of the agreement, we will break down the weapons into all their individual components [all the metals, wiring and electric chips that the warhead is composed of] for shipment back to your nation with the uranium/plutonium being placed into rods for use in your civilian reactors. As, I'm sure secrecy and security are as vitally important for you as they are for us, everything agreed to will be covered under a non-disclosure agreement and all information protected with the latest security devices. In closing, if and when you should decide to expand your disposal program, we would be more then happy to again assist your nation.

Sincerely, Chancellor Muller

OCC2: If, you don't want anyone to know how many of those warheads you built, you can send me a telegram if you want. As stated in the IC, you have my word that I will not inform anyone on the specifics of our deal, ever. I don't think you'll get a better deal then that anywhere else.

OCC: This post might be redundant as from the looks of things, you went ahead already and dismantled the warheads yourself.

SIC: While, were sadden to hear you won't be disposing of your other large MT warheads, we fully understand your position and can only hope in the future you see the folly of owning nuclear warheads of such size. Until, such time were prepared to offer your nation our services for a small fee in disposing of these weapons by converting their various components for civilian use. Depending on the number of warheads, complete disposal may take some time. If in agreement with your government, we require $5 million per 500MT warhead and $2 million per 200MT warhead. Which, can be paid in installments of your desired size of your choosing if so desired. As part of the agreement, we will break down the weapons into all their individual components [all the metals, wiring and electric chips that the warhead is composed of] for shipment back to your nation with the uranium/plutonium being placed into rods for use in your civilian reactors. As, I'm sure secrecy and security are as vitally important for you as they are for us, everything agreed to will be covered under a non-disclosure agreement and all information protected with the latest security devices. In closing, if and when you should decide to expand your disposal program, we would be more then happy to again assist your nation.

Sincerely, Chancellor Muller

OCC2: If, you don't want anyone to know how many of those warheads you built, you can send me a telegram if you want. As stated in the IC, you have my word that I will not inform anyone on the specifics of our deal, ever. I don't think you'll get a better deal then that anywhere else.

SIC: We have built five quantities of 500MT, 10 Quantities of 200MT and 15 quantities of 100MT warheads, altogether we would like to chip these warheads immediately for properly dismantling them and disposing them and converting them for civilian use, we have a remaining of twenty of 50MT warheads, however i would like an advice from your high officials, what your nation thinks, if keeping the twenty of 50MT warheads or should they also be disposed off safely for civilian use in our nuclear reactors by producing electricity and energy?

I just sent you a telegram regarding a problem i have which a certain nation threatened my nation out of nowhere. Just to control some of my nations sovereignty even if i withdrawn from producing any more nuclear weapons.

ooc: You contradict yourself... Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14564138&postcount=379)

OOc: If you took the time to read my name, and his name, you will then know that i am not "New Soviet Union". and you will be able to establish that my nickname is Serbian Soviet Union. Please read next time before accusing me of contradicting myself.

SIC: We have built five quantities of 500MT, 10 Quantities of 200MT and 15 quantities of 100MT warheads, altogether we would like to chip these warheads immediately for properly dismantling them and disposing them and converting them for civilian use, we have a remaining of twenty of 50MT warheads, however i would like an advice from your high officials, what your nation thinks, if keeping the twenty of 50MT warheads or should they also be disposed off safely for civilian use in our nuclear reactors by producing electricity and energy?

SIC: Were ready to receive your shipment at your earliest convenience and depending on their arrival and current condition we estimate we should be able to have all currently listed warheads above completely disassembled into their various components and shipped back to your nation within two years. As stated in our last message, we request $5 million per 500MT warhead, $2 million per 200MT warhead and $1 million per 100MT warhead. Again, we our open to a wide range of payment plans, including the exchange of trade goods [food, materials, etc...]. We have already made our position perfectly clear concerning the manufacture of large MT warheads, however seeing as you specifically requested our advice here is it again. While, our government feels maintaining a nuclear arsenal is important both as a deterrence and as a sign of a Great Power, the cost to manufacture and maintain large megaton nuclear warheads is in our opinion not worth the expense for weapons that in all likelihood would never be used and if they were would only lead to massive destruction and international condemnation. The use of large warheads also presents problems when it comes to using them as practical weapons of war, which is while our government decided long ago to limit it's nuclear arsenal to no larger then 300-500kT warheads. However, we can not in good conscience tell you or your people what to do, should you choose to either manufacture or use large MT warheads is entirely up to you.

One final note, should you choose to in the future disposal of your 50MT warheads through us, we would request the sum of $500,000 per 50MT warhead that was disposed of.

Sincerely, Chancellor Muller

SIC: Were ready to receive your shipment at your earliest convenience and depending on their arrival and current condition we estimate we should be able to have all currently listed warheads above completely disassembled into their various components and shipped back to your nation within two years. As stated in our last message, we request $5 million per 500MT warhead, $2 million per 200MT warhead and $1 million per 100MT warhead. Again, we our open to a wide range of payment plans, including the exchange of trade goods [food, materials, etc...]. We have already made our position perfectly clear concerning the manufacture of large MT warheads, however seeing as you specifically requested our advice here is it again. While, our government feels maintaining a nuclear arsenal is important both as a deterrence and as a sign of a Great Power, the cost to manufacture and maintain large megaton nuclear warheads is in our opinion not worth the expense for weapons that in all likelihood would never be used and if they were would only lead to massive destruction and international condemnation. The use of large warheads also presents problems when it comes to using them as practical weapons of war, which is while our government decided long ago to limit it's nuclear arsenal to no larger then 300-500kT warheads. However, we can not in good conscience tell you or your people what to do, should you choose to either manufacture or use large MT warheads is entirely up to you.

One final note, should you choose to in the future disposal of your 50MT warheads through us, we would request the sum of $500,000 per 50MT warhead that was disposed of.

Sincerely, Chancellor Muller

SIC: After taking your advice into consideration, the government of the Federation of Serbian Soviet Union decided that we will indeed ship our 50MT warheads to have them converted for civilian use and convert them into energy to use for our nuclear powerplants to provide energy to the entire nation of FSSU. We will be shipping all of our nuclear arsenals to a total of 50 warheads which are divided by this, we have five quantities of 500MT, 10 of 200MT, 15 of 100MT and 20 of 50MT which we would like to ship to your nation for disposable and dismantling them and to convert them into civilian use.

IC: The warheads are now being packed and safely packaged and stored and the cargo ships are preparing for the transfer of these warheads to be sent to the United Earthlings, the cargo transfer ship will leave in 2 hours and expected to arrive in 2 NS days. Two patrol ships and a battle ship will be following the cargo transfer ship to guard the ship from any outsiders and pirates there might be in the international borders, however, the two patrol ships and the battle ship will not enter into the United Earthlings waters, they will be waiting 10km away from the United Earthlings waters, to ensure the safety of transfer of these warheads to United Earthlings. The Cargo Transfer ship will enter the waters of United Earthlings upon approval on arrival.

SIC: All preparations are underway and nearing completion in preparing for the arrival of your shipment. Once, the shipment arrivals at the designation drop-off point of Bremerhaven Naval Base, from there the shipment will be flown to our Veracruz National Laboratory of Nuclear Engineering or VNLNE for short, which is located just outside the city of Veracruz. Once there, our highly trained and very experience specialists will begin the task of dismantling the various warheads into their various individual components for shipment back to your nation.

In closing, should your small fleet wish to continue to escort the cargo ship(s) for the rest of their short journey, they are permitted to enter our territorial waters. Once inside our territorial waters, a small fleet of Royal Commonwealth frigates will join or take over escort of your cargo ships to make sure they arrive safely at Bremerhaven Naval Base.

IC: After a very long sail, the transfer cargo ships with the nuclear weapons have arrived at the border of the United Earthlings waters, along with the transfer cargo ship, two patrol ships and a battle ship has escoted the transfer cargo ship all the way to the border of United Earthlings, the cargo ship is now awaiting for approval to enter the waters into the United Earthling and to park at the seaport for delivery.

OCC: Forgive me, but I don't feel like really taking the time to write up an IC reply for such a simple statement.

As I said in my last post, your granted permission to enter my territorial waters should you want to (the warships anyway as the Cargo ships would of been cleared a head of time and wouldn't of needed to wait for permission). You can dock your warships at Bremerhaven Naval Base and your fleet is welcome to stay as long as they want. Not very often does my Naval Bases get foreign visitors so it should be a really nice treat for my people and yours I'm sure.

This is not possible your population is much to small.

This is not possible your population is much to small.

OOC: If you read the stickies, you will know that 100+ million is the minimum requirement for building nuclear weapons and now we would like to dispose of them into civilian use, converting them into energy to supply to our nuclear powerplants.

OOC: If you read the stickies, you will know that 100+ million is the minimum requirement for building nuclear weapons and now we would like to dispose of them into civilian use, converting them into energy to supply to our nuclear powerplants.

Were glad you disposing of them, but you simply cannot build such a large warhead with you little population, you can build small ones.