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To: Nations of the World

A colossal growth in our mining industry recently has proven very useful as we have founda substantial amount of uranium within our grounds. While we plan to use the uranium for power sources as well as some, but minimal military purposes we would like to open our doors for open uranium trade.

Deals can be made for 4 year trading contracts at $15/lb USD. Any nations that are looking to develop economic alliances will be able to benefit from these trading deals.

Sincerely yours,
Saoka - Ruler of Energiereichtum

To: Energiereichtum
From: Federation of Serbian Soviet Union

My nation would like to buy 49% of the shares of your nations Uranium mining industry at a total price of $2,700,000,000 billion universal dollars and we would like to invest 5,000,000,000 billion universal dollars in improving the uranium minning sector of your nation. We can discuss this further if your nation is willing to accept such a deal. With a total of 5 billion universal dollars worth of investments, we plan to modernise the uranium minning sector of your nation, build 5 storages to store uranium of each containing total of 500,000,000 tons of uranium, build two nuclear powerplants and a uranium factory of creating extract uranium, enriched uranium and depleeted uranium.

Signed,

Ministry of Trade Fillip Borovic
Ministry of Commerce Miodrag Popovic
Ministry of Uranium Minning sector Dalibor Velickovski

To: Nations of the World

A colossal growth in our mining industry recently has proven very useful as we have founda substantial amount of uranium within our grounds. While we plan to use the uranium for power sources as well as some, but minimal military purposes we would like to open our doors for open uranium trade.

Deals can be made for 4 year trading contracts at $15/lb USD. Any nations that are looking to develop economic alliances will be able to benefit from these trading deals.

Sincerely yours,
Saoka - Ruler of Energiereichtum

The ASoGM would like to prevent the proliferation of radioactive materials to potentially unstable nations. Therefore, we would like to negotiate an exclusivity contract with your nation.

The ASoGM would like to prevent the proliferation of radioactive materials to potentially unstable nations. Therefore, we would like to negotiate an exclusivity contract with your nation.

First sort out your black market mess. As the people in the black market in your country have possession of nuclear weapons which are going into the wrong hands of people.

OOC: My nation would like to buy 49% of the shares of your nations Uranium mining industry at a total price of $2,700,000,000 billion universal dollars and we would like to invest 5,000,000,000 billion universal dollars in improving the uranium minning sector of your nation. We can discuss this further if your nation is willing to accept such a deal. With a total of 5 billion universal dollars worth of investments, we plan to modernise the uranium minning sector of your nation, build 5 storages to store uranium of each containing total of 500,000,000 tons of uranium, build two nuclear powerplants and a uranium factory of creating extract uranium, enriched uranium and depleeted uranium.

Signed,

Ministry of Trade Fillip Borovic
Ministry of Commerce Miodrag Popovic
Ministry of Uranium Minning sector Dalibor Velickovski


ooc dear god you still have no idae what occ and ic are do you? :rolleyes:

First sort out your black market mess. As the people in the black market in your country have possession of nuclear weapons which are going into the wrong hands of people.

The ASoGM is insulted by your accusations, which the ASoGM suspects are baseless. What proof do you have that black market nuclear weapons are passing through the ASoGM?

With an offer made by ironfist disguised as Gun Manufacturers which wanted to sell a 50Kiloton Nuclear missile.

With an offer made by ironfist disguised as Gun Manufacturers which wanted to sell a 50Kiloton Nuclear missile.

Your only proof that there's a black market nuclear weapon in the ASoGM is a message from a criminal organization? Did you know that it is Iron Fist's modus operandi to sell what they do not own? Iron Fist likes to make their money offering expensive things to those that cannot retaliate, once they find out Iron Fist has duped them. And since they do not actually possess the illegal or contraband items, it is very difficult to prosecute them. The ASoGM feels that the FSSU was probably lucky they didn't lose millions buying the equivalent of a souped up Betamax player.

OOC: There is no evidents to claiming that Irons-Fist and the black market, criminal organisation in your nation do not have possession of such organisation therefore first crack down on these organisations, arrest them and get rid of all black markets organisation in your nation first before making such a huge deal which lots of uranium could get into the wrong hands of the people.

IC: Federation of Serbian Soviet Union officials are shocked to hear that the Gun Manfacturers Police, and the Army has not made any attempts to crackdown on such criminal organisations and black markets.

The proof is here,

15-02-2009, 05:33 #54
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Originally Posted by Serbian_Soviet_Union
Government of Federation of the Serbian Soviet Union will launch a Nuclear Program on the 14th, Feburary of 2009. 12.5 Billion Dinars from the Federal budget has been set aside from the Nuclear Program and the program is expected to finish on the 3rd of March.

Federation of the Serbian Soviet Union is planning on building 50 warheads consisting of 500 Megatons each.

Specifications of the first FSSU Nuclear bombs:

Name of the Nuclear Warhead -
Weight 80 tonnes
Length 20 meters
Diameter 10 meters
Blast yield 500 megatons


The warheads will not be used against WA members or should the FSSU threaten any nation with nuclear strikes, however these Nuclear warheads will be located in our countries for test use only and in the near future the country will export them to countries wishing to possess nuclear warheads.

Possession of nuclear warheads why the Federation of Serbian Soviet Union increases the security of our country and the region from aggressive nations and nations not members of WA.

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Amendments - Instead of the original planned 50 warheads consisting of 500 Megaton warheads. FSSU Nuclear Program will only build 5 of those 500MT Nuclear bombs.

20 Nuclear Warheads consisting of 50Megaton will be built with 15 Nuclear Warheads consisting of 100Megaton Warheads to be built with 10 Nuclear Warheads consisting of 200Megaton to be built.


Program began on the 15.02.09 and it is due to finish on 3rd of March. Productions will begin of the first 500Megaton nuclear bomb.


Prices:

500MT = 5 in production. not for sale (5 quantity in production)
200MT = $6,000,000,000 (6 Billion each) ( 10 quantity in production)
100MT = 3,900,000,000 (3.9 billion each) (15 quantity in production)
50MT = $2,000,000,000 (2billion) each (20 quantity in production)

500MT will not be for sale. 200MT will be on sale in the near future once an increase of quantity is approved. 50MT and 100MT will be on sale after passing it's first testing, evaluation and inspections.

**Begin 1024 bit encryption**
**Begin message**

TO: The FSSU
FROM: unknown
RE: Nuclear warheads

Hello there. We have an offer that you may want to consider. We currently have in our possession a 30 kiloton Peace of Hell nuclear warhead, that we would be willing to sell to you for $30 million USD, payable in negotiable bearer bonds. If you are interested, please send an encrypted reply to make arrangements. Keep in mind, this is not an offer from the ASoGM government, we are a private organization.

**End message**
**End encryption**

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583508&page=4

This is the evidents.

[OOC: Ignore cannon aimed. And fired. Direct hit on Serbian_Soviet_Union. Alls in a good day's work.]

OOC: There is no evidents to claiming that Irons-Fist and the black market, criminal organisation in your nation do not have possession of such organisation therefore first crack down on these organisations, arrest them and get rid of all black markets organisation in your nation first before making such a huge deal which lots of uranium could get into the wrong hands of the people.

IC: Federation of Serbian Soviet Union officials are shocked to hear that the Gun Manfacturers Police, and the Army has not made any attempts to crackdown on such criminal organisations and black markets.

The ASoGM police and military are bound by the laws and Constitution of the ASoGM. Iron Fist is targeted as much as possible, but it is extremely hard to get enough evidence against Iron Fist members to even go to trial, let alone get a conviction.

The Dominion of Sarrowquand would like to negotiate a trade deal and asks what sort of quantities we can expect to be able to purchase?

We would also like to reassure nations of the world that this uranium will be used only for our civilian nuclear program.

The ASoGM police and military are bound by the laws and Constitution of the ASoGM. Iron Fist is targeted as much as possible, but it is extremely hard to get enough evidence against Iron Fist members to even go to trial, let alone get a conviction.

OOC: What evidents are needed to crackdown on Iron-Fist and these criminal/black market organisations?? There is a huge security threat due to criminal organisations potentially possessing weapons of mass destruction and selling them on the international black markets?

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll31/DemonLordRazgriz/AC%20flags/BelkanFlag.png
Principality of Belkaland
Grand Duke Razgriz H. Demon
SecDef Maj. Gen. George Hammond

To: Energiereichtum
Subject: Uranium Deposits purchase

The Principality of Belkaland is interested in aquiring exclusive rights to the huge deposits of uranium. We are in need of uranium to fuel Belkaland's many power generating nuclear reactors. At current rates, Belkaland's reactors will be out of fuel within 10 years and our entire stocks of uranium will be used up.

However, before there is any agreement, we would like to send in geologist to determine the precise amount of uranium within those deposits. It would not be in anyone's interest if the amount of uranium is less than what it seems.

Sincerly,
Razgriz H. Demon
George Hammond

The proof is here,

15-02-2009, 05:33 #54
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Originally Posted by Serbian_Soviet_Union
Government of Federation of the Serbian Soviet Union will launch a Nuclear Program on the 14th, Feburary of 2009. 12.5 Billion Dinars from the Federal budget has been set aside from the Nuclear Program and the program is expected to finish on the 3rd of March.

Federation of the Serbian Soviet Union is planning on building 50 warheads consisting of 500 Megatons each.

Specifications of the first FSSU Nuclear bombs:

Name of the Nuclear Warhead -
Weight 80 tonnes
Length 20 meters
Diameter 10 meters
Blast yield 500 megatons


The warheads will not be used against WA members or should the FSSU threaten any nation with nuclear strikes, however these Nuclear warheads will be located in our countries for test use only and in the near future the country will export them to countries wishing to possess nuclear warheads.

Possession of nuclear warheads why the Federation of Serbian Soviet Union increases the security of our country and the region from aggressive nations and nations not members of WA.

---------------------------------------------------------------
Amendments - Instead of the original planned 50 warheads consisting of 500 Megaton warheads. FSSU Nuclear Program will only build 5 of those 500MT Nuclear bombs.

20 Nuclear Warheads consisting of 50Megaton will be built with 15 Nuclear Warheads consisting of 100Megaton Warheads to be built with 10 Nuclear Warheads consisting of 200Megaton to be built.


Program began on the 15.02.09 and it is due to finish on 3rd of March. Productions will begin of the first 500Megaton nuclear bomb.


Prices:

500MT = 5 in production. not for sale (5 quantity in production)
200MT = $6,000,000,000 (6 Billion each) ( 10 quantity in production)
100MT = 3,900,000,000 (3.9 billion each) (15 quantity in production)
50MT = $2,000,000,000 (2billion) each (20 quantity in production)

500MT will not be for sale. 200MT will be on sale in the near future once an increase of quantity is approved. 50MT and 100MT will be on sale after passing it's first testing, evaluation and inspections.

**Begin 1024 bit encryption**
**Begin message**

TO: The FSSU
FROM: unknown
RE: Nuclear warheads

Hello there. We have an offer that you may want to consider. We currently have in our possession a 30 kiloton Peace of Hell nuclear warhead, that we would be willing to sell to you for $30 million USD, payable in negotiable bearer bonds. If you are interested, please send an encrypted reply to make arrangements. Keep in mind, this is not an offer from the ASoGM government, we are a private organization.

**End message**
**End encryption**

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=583508&page=4

Notice that there is no mention of the name Iron Fist in the message. In fact, there are no names mentioned at all. The only clue in this message is a mention of the ASoGM government, but that still doesn't prove that Iron Fist is involved, or that the message originated IN the ASoGM.

OOC: Which brings this to the matter that your nation does not have the adequate security to be making any deals regarding uranium and by ensuring that uranium does not fall into the wrong hands or hands to the unstable nations yet many criminal organisations and black market organisations in your nation possess many of these weapons of mass destructions or such, maybe they do not have possession of mass destructions but after my nation came close to being dooped, we have reasons to believe it.

OOC: What evidents are needed to crackdown on Iron-Fist and these criminal/black market organisations?? There is a huge security threat due to criminal organisations potentially possessing weapons of mass destruction and selling them on the international black markets?

Physical evidence, eyewitness testimony, and other types of evidence that one of these nations is committing a crime is necessary. The ASoGM police and military have to follow ASoGM laws and the ASoGM Constitution, and so far have no evidence that any black market operation is in possession of a weapon of mass destruction in the ASoGM.

ooc: come on SSU it was clearly an entrapment operation to implicate your government in actions befiting a rogue state get over it and stop cluttering this thread.

OOC: Which brings this to the matter that your nation does not have the adequate security to be making any deals regarding uranium and by ensuring that uranium does not fall into the wrong hands or hands to the unstable nations yet many criminal organisations and black market organisations in your nation possess many of these weapons of mass destructions or such, maybe they do not have possession of mass destructions but after my nation came close to being dooped, we have reasons to believe it.

Lay out any tangible proof that a criminal or black market organization in the ASoGM has weapons of mass destruction, or the ASoGM will have no choice but to consider your claims baseless.

ooc: come on SSU it was clearly an entrapment operation to implicate your government in actions befiting a rogue state get over it and stop cluttering this thread.

OOC: I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. :wink:

Vojvodina-Nihon does not need your massive uranium deposits, as it has recently discovered massive deposits of handwavium (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536997), a much more valuable and useful mineral with a wider variety of possible uses.

OOC: This is a very serious matter and due to the high level of security risk, and the complications and consequences behind this, i strongly recommend Energiereichtum to not sign any contracts with the nation of Gun Manufacturers regarding trade or the uranium minning sector.

ooc ssu put a sock in it

IC:

To: Energiereichtum and Belkaland

We would like to suggest a trade conference in Energiereichtum where we could discuss trade arrangements to benefit each of our nations. We also suggest that the cost of the Belkaland extended uranium survey be paid for by those states that enter into a contract with Energiereichtum.

From Talon Dren (Grey 546,001) head of the bureau of energy.

ooc: To Gun manufacturers. Indeed pure speculation :)

OOC: This is a very serious matter and due to the high level of security risk, and the complications and consequences behind this, i strongly recommend Energiereichtum to not sign any contracts with the nation of Gun Manufacturers regarding trade or the uranium minning sector.

OOC: Still don't have the hang of that OOC/IC thing, do you.

IC: The ASoGM denies the baseless accusations of the FSSU, and would like to remind everyone that they pushed multiple nations to the brink of war with their aggressive posturing and desire for nuclear weapons, despite not having proved themselves a stable power. The FSSU, after all, is the nation that made multiple "500 megaton" nuclear devices. If those weapons are functional, their only use would be to destroy the FSSU in the event of an invasion. Can an unstable nation that intends to sacrifice its entire population be trusted to determine who is fit to purchase nuclear materials?

OOC: Still don't have the hang of that OOC/IC thing, do you.

IC: The ASoGM denies the baseless accusations of the FSSU, and would like to remind everyone that they pushed multiple nations to the brink of war with their aggressive posturing and desire for nuclear weapons, despite not having proved themselves a stable power. The FSSU, after all, is the nation that made multiple "500 megaton" nuclear devices. If those weapons are functional, their only use would be to destroy the FSSU in the event of an invasion. Can an unstable nation that intends to sacrifice its entire population be trusted to determine who is fit to purchase nuclear materials?

Nice try but that campaign is pretty old i must say?? The Nuclear Program has already been put on hold for three weeks, once the nation reaches it's desired population, the nuclear program will resume, 500,200,100MT bombs have been scrapped, discontinued and securely sealed never to see the lights. Once the resumption of the Nuclear Program, we will be building only Kiloton Nuclear weapons, and Megatons consisting upto 20MT at max.

My nation, the Government of FSSU have been concentrating on improving the economy, trade, politics and relations with other states, since the halt of the nuclear program, the economy has reached a high level of GDP growth, and an economy the size of a powerhouse, imports and exports exceeds over 60 billion universal dollars, FSSU has also been concentrating on it's Millitary, arming itself in the ground and airforce sectors of the army, navy will be the last. Army is being organised as we speak.

I am afraid my nation is what you call a stable nation. :)

Nice try but that campaign is pretty old i must say?? The Nuclear Program has already been put on hold for three weeks, once the nation reaches it's desired population, the nuclear program will resume, 500,200,100MT bombs have been scrapped, discontinued and securely sealed never to see the lights. Once the resumption of the Nuclear Program, we will be building only Kiloton Nuclear weapons, and Megatons consisting upto 20MT at max.

My nation, the Government of FSSU have been concentrating on improving the economy, trade, politics and relations with other states, since the halt of the nuclear program, the economy has reached a high level of GDP growth, and an economy the size of a powerhouse, imports and exports exceeds over 60 billion universal dollars, FSSU has also been concentrating on it's Millitary, arming itself in the ground and airforce sectors of the army, navy will be the last. Army is being organised as we speak.

I am afraid my nation is what you call a stable nation. :)

Economically stable is not the same as militarily stable. Many time over the life of the ASoGM, have we seen nations of your size desire nuclear weapons. Those nations usually have an aggressive attitude, and many wars have been started because of it. Your nation barely avoided a war, which would have been caused by your proliferation of nuclear weapons and your attitude towards other foreign powers. That is why the ASoGM considers the FSSU an unstable nation.

Vojvodina-Nihon would be pleased to offer the FSSU a chance to purchase some 100-500 MT nuclear weapons. You can come and pick them up anytime for a fee of only a few hundred billion handwavium datachips. We are located on the fourth planet of the yellow star Santorini, in the Perseus Arm of the Milky Way.

[OOC:] That's an easy way to deal with such a situation. :P

Economically stable is not the same as militarily stable. Many time over the life of the ASoGM, have we seen nations of your size desire nuclear weapons. Those nations usually have an aggressive attitude, and many wars have been started because of it. Your nation barely avoided a war, which would have been caused by your proliferation of nuclear weapons and your attitude towards other foreign powers. That is why the ASoGM considers the FSSU an unstable nation.

That is sterotyping and generalising small and medium size nations. Most small and medium size nations are not aggessive and some do not have desire to purchase or possess or make nuclear weapons. However, small and medium size nations are sometimes or usually will get bullied by larger nations because of the fact that larger nations are stronger then smaller or medium size nations, those nations who are large usually have desire to world police, chuck out ridiculous treaties and ultimatums which benefits the large nation which intend on limiting the sovereignty rights of another nation or taking away that sovereign rights to smaller or medium size nations.

And also my nation has not been involved in any wars or has it threatened another nation of war or invading other nations or has my nation threatened any other nation of launching nukes.

*bump*

That is sterotyping and generalising small and medium size nations. Most small and medium size nations are not aggessive and some do not have desire to purchase or possess or make nuclear weapons. However, small and medium size nations are sometimes or usually will get bullied by larger nations because of the fact that larger nations are stronger then smaller or medium size nations, those nations who are large usually have desire to world police, chuck out ridiculous treaties and ultimatums which benefits the large nation which intend on limiting the sovereignty rights of another nation or taking away that sovereign rights to smaller or medium size nations.

And also my nation has not been involved in any wars or has it threatened another nation of war or invading other nations or has my nation threatened any other nation of launching nukes.

Your nation is an exception.

Your nation is an exception.

OOC: What is that suppose to mean?

OOC: What is that suppose to mean?

OOC: Your nation is aggressive and does have a desire to purchase, produce, store, test, manufacture, sell and use nuclear weapons. Also, you STILL lack the population to create nuclear weapons. Your only 26 million people, which is about 76 million below the recommended guideline for producing nuclear weapons of your own.

OOC: If so then why were you so eager to test out a 50MT warhead which you requested and in return your nation would aid the program?

OOC: No response hehe.

OOC: No response hehe.

OOC: No, just the mighty I.G.N.O.R.E. cannon at work.