NationStates Jolt Archive

Okay, After the arrival of several new NS Players who chose to build 500MT Nuclear Warheads and challenging a Fascist Nation ten times his size. I decided to revive an Thread which i personally attribute to my improvement of RP skills. This is the NationStates Trainers. I'll be copying and pasting the intro. (Credits to imported_viZion)

NST is for all players of NS. Newer and vets alike. What does matter is that if you're an older/experienced RPers here on NS - it doesn't matter PT/MT/PMT/FT/Fantasy, nor does it matter what kind of government or political/religious beliefs your nation holds, or its "evil" or "good" orientation - you're willing to help train younger/newer NSers on properly RPing, the do's and don'ts, grammer and spelling issues, and so forth. I'd much rather see a future rival or ally ICly and a friend OOCly than to just walk over a newbie now who makes the mistake of bad RPing and starting a war right away.

This is not only for military, but every aspect of the game. Character RPs and building, economy, military, nation building, diplomacy, and so forth.

Also, this is not limited to helping newer NS'ers, but can also help other older NSers as well improve.

For those of you willing to become an NS Trainer, please just post and let us know, and I'll add you. Also, people who want help on improving, please post here and I'll add your name to the below list.

Remember, this is a strictly OOC-based group whose goal is pure and simple: improving everyones RP and knowledge of do's and don'ts, etc here on NS to make RPing much more enjoyable.

That's the original post by ViZion himself. I don't take any credits for this. I'm just returning the favor for them and i'm sure many would be improved by this organization.

Official NationStates Trainers ("NST'er")
The Philippiniada (MT)
The Wolf Hold (MT)
Chronosia (FT)
The Beatus (MT)
Saint Claire Island (MT)
El Centro De Tierras (MT)
Alfegos (MT)
Taledonia (FT)
Telros (FT)
Greal (MT)
Somewhereistonia (MT) (PT) (PMT)
DaWoad (MT) (PT) (PMT)

Those requesting help from NST'ers:
The Soundgardens (MT)
The Great Qing (MT)
Void Templar (FT) (MT)
Nehrland
Miles Edgeworth
Masburel
Serbian Soviet Union
Saerlandia (MT) (FT)



Here a few key tips and terms
NS - NationStates
II - International Incidents (the forum you're in right now...)
NST'er - NationStates Trainer (obviously, as posted above)
RP - Roleplay
IC - In Character (meaning your RPing)
OOC - Out of Character (meaning you're posting as yourself, not RPing)
Secret IC - Secret IC post to a specific person, or just for reference
PT - Past Technology
MT - Modern Technology
PMT - Post Modern Technology
NFT - Near Future Technology
FT - Future Technology
Fantasy - Fantasy Technology
n00b - Crappy RPer, no matter how long the person's been RPing
Newbie - Different from n00b in that they're new, but not horrible
Godmod - Basically, cheating.
Open - Anyone can join the RP
Semi-Open - Ask for approval before joining
Closed - Unless specified by the creater of the RP, you can't join
Char RP - Character RP, meaning you're RPing as a specific character, not a nation, company, etc.
Sig - Signature
-Don't use the smilies while roleplaying.
-Using correct spelling and grammer is very important! And this will help you with that...
-Don't start a war right away... rather, start up things such as an embassy, an introduction thread, airport, building up your economy by starting companies, doing peaceful roleplays, and making allies, among other things.
-Ask for help if you need it when growing your nation... most of us are more than willing to help across NS - rather they're an official NST'er or not.
-Set it to allow you to see signatures (See further down on how to)
-Set it to auto subscribe to threads (See further down on how to)
-IC and OOC should NEVER be mixed
-Look at the stickies and ASK FOR HELP. :)

Nuclear Newbies (and n00bs)
Please note for all you new nations that it is generally said that you will need to wait til around 100 million people before you can begin to make serious progress in your nuclear department. Please do not simply say "I HAVE N00KS! I BOMB YOU!!!" as that gets you nowhere but ignored or laughed at. Or both. And, for good measure, many will proceed to stomp on you anyway, even after ignoring and laughing at you.

Once you DO obtain your first nuclear weapon, please go ahead and test it, but give some description, talking about where it's taking place, etc. Sometimes you'll get retaliation simply for testing it, but you WILL get retaliation if you go out and 'test' it on a population. It's suggested you do the forum since you likely wont have the military power and allies to cope with such a retaliation that would turn your country into a very large glass bowl.

How to See Signatures
-Click "User CP" near top left
-Click "Edit Options" on left side
-Under "Thread Display Options" (third section down), select "Show Signature" check box and then hit "Save Changes" at bottom of page.

How to Subscribe to Threads When You Post In It (So you can find thread easily later - EXTREMELY USEFUL!)
-Click "User CP" near top left
-Click "Edit Options" on left side
-Under "Messaging & Notification" (second section down), the second little area says "Default Thread Subscription Mode" - under there select the drop-down box and select "No Email Notification" and then hit "Save Changes" at bottom of page.

Note: Please specify your Tech's when applying.

(Disclaimer: The above post is made by ViZion. I do not take any credit from this nor claim it as my own.)

I would like to sign up. I am pretty new to all of this rping stuff.

Your in. :)

I'd like to think I am a decent RPer (although I proably arnt), I have only been on NS for a week and a bit, however I have quite a bit if experiance when it comes to RP, so I'm up for being a trainer (que laughing)

I'm still in.

Done, Wolf and Chronosia.

I'll help train, if you seriously need any extra trainers. (2+ years of RP experience -- and experience of how not to RP -- with another nation.) The problem with these threads is that there are always too many trainers and not enough trainees. And someone like me always comes in to complain about that. That's another problem.

I would be willing to help some new RPers. They are the life blood of these forums, and without them, it would dry up and die.

Saint Claire and Beatus, Welcome. :)

Like it's predecessor. The NST 2.0 will host several training RP's. Set in their respective technologies. Like a War RP or a Gathering RP. I would like volunteers nations on ALL technologies to be... Let's say the Senior Nation on that particular tech and will be Representative Hosts of NST.

And for future applicants, please specify your Tech Specialization.

I think you guys should be more aggressive with your recruiting of trainees, as threads like these have a likelihood of drifting off silently and no one seeing them. So, you know, tell people about it :D.

BTW, i'd like to be a back-up Trainer, speciality: MT / Land Warfare

It'll pick up steam eventually. Newbie Nations tendencies are to look for threads like these...

Welcome Centro. :D

I'll join up here as a trainer, should anybody require my assistance.

Nation Name: Alfegos
RP Era: Modern Technology
RP Types: Character, 'War'
Notes: Has an extreme allergy to 'x-style' threads or 'along the theme of x' threads, due to the blatant copying of the storyline of 'x'. Also has access to a rather large amount of military tactics/training knowledge, as well as being in the ACF.
Examples of RP'ing:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=579404


I'm willing to help anyone and everyone here - I'm already helping out Madurastan to a degree, so am not new to this.

I'd be willing to be a trainer! Oh, I'm FT, by the way.

Nice to see veterans signing up again...

Welcome Alfegos, :D

I'm MT by the way.

Noted, Beatus

Yo, I said I'd train someone, not that I need training. Have me in the wrong spot, bra.

Sorry, Noted. :)

Mostly MT here. Main areas of expertise include writing and RPing, keeping IC and OOC separate, realism and logic, etc.

If anyone here is good at it, I'd be willing to sign up as a trainee as well, in matters of military technology and tactics. Not having served in a military unit myself, nor having played Ace Combat or Wing Commander or whatever, I can't really delude myself into thinking I'm some kind of expert the way some people manage to.

I could help out with the training if you like. I'm MT/FT.

Welcome Void, :)

Saint Claire, Noted.

Just to notify you, I'm all MT. As I am an army cadet and soon to be officer cadet at RMA Sandhurst.

Noted, Wolf. And that's pretty cool. :D

I'll urge all of the NST'ers to recruit as many "strayed" nations and refer them to this thread. As Beatus said, they are the lifeblood of this forum. And training them is the this Generation's NS'ers duty to preserve this Forum from dying.

And why do you keep misspelling my name? First Chair, now Claire. I demand fair treatment. :mad: You could just write it down as Saevitian Archipelago. This one's only a puppet anyhow.

My bad... That's what you get for staying up all night (It's 6:00AM right now). My apologies, my good sire.

Hey. To be honest, I never played a war so I ... I would like some assistance in that.

That said, I would like to help out with the diplomatic and other aspects of this game. I feel that the game could use some assistance in developing the non-military aspects - the ones who IRL make up a lot of world issues. Internal affairs and politics, conducting a diplomatic conference, and humanitarian aid would be my specialties.

Of course, I feel that my general writing skills are decent - of course they can be better. The best way to do that I feel is to both practice that. Maybe we have our trainers and trainees kind of critique peoples posts. Of course reading books is the best way to learn to write better so maybe we start an "II Book Club"?

I do have some proposals for "scenarios" that we could do if people are interested.

Now, which of you mewling flesh-children need help in FT? TELL ME!

New Brittonia got the nail on the head. II needs less war (I should know), stuff like humanitarian Aid, Civil events, joint-nation conventions etc.

Welcome, Brittonia. :)

I feel the same way, This game isn't all about war. There are a lot of possible RP topics such as the ones you mentioned.

We can use your scenarios when we kickstart our Projects/Training RP's. Where we will have War and non-War Training RP's.

Hey. To be honest, I never played a war so I ... I would like some assistance in that.

That said, I would like to help out with the diplomatic and other aspects of this game. I feel that the game could use some assistance in developing the non-military aspects - the ones who IRL make up a lot of world issues. Internal affairs and politics, conducting a diplomatic conference, and humanitarian aid would be my specialties.

Of course, I feel that my general writing skills are decent - of course they can be better. The best way to do that I feel is to both practice that. Maybe we have our trainers and trainees kind of critique peoples posts. Of course reading books is the best way to learn to write better so maybe we start an "II Book Club"?

I do have some proposals for "scenarios" that we could do if people are interested.

If we do the book club, I think it would be best to read Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. This is one of the best books of all time IMO.

Edit: I also think we should have more of the war rps because it is hard to actually have the balls to start a real war RP.

Its nothing to do with balls, what happens is you get huge dogpiles of alliances and then it stops being fun and it becomes a slaughter

That's just life. See WWI for reference.

Its nothing to do with balls, what happens is you get huge dogpiles of alliances and then it stops being fun and it becomes a slaughter

No, no, wherever did you get that idea?
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I dunno. Huge dogpiles can be okay, as long as everyone remains in OOC communication throughout. For instance, I was once attacked by four or five nations, all of them larger and more militaristic than my own, with the support of several more who did not interfere directly. But because we talked about it OOCly and I was at least decently capable of defending myself, it was a fun RP. On the other hand, once I got enough people on my side to balance it out, OOC arguments started breaking out, people disappeared for months and slowed the RP down, and eventually the whole thing ended in ignores and retcons.

It didn't help that I was something of a dick at the time, though.

I know that, sadly II cant function in the same way as WWI. Not to mention said dogpiles happen when bigger countries (no names mentioned *glares at VT*try and take over smaller ones in the hope that they will give in easily. I think the NST will ost definatly stop such ocurences happening

I know that, sadly II cant function in the same way as WWI. Not to mention said dogpiles happen when bigger countries (no names mentioned *glares at VT*try and take over smaller ones in the hope that they will give in easily. I think the NST will ost definatly stop such ocurences happening

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If you'd like, you're welcome to invade me. I keep a plan for invasions in a folder somewhere on my computer, just gotta find it. Might be a good scenario for the training. ORBATs, invasion, occupation and revolution.

Hmm, dogpiling, countries building 500MT nukes, and getting invaded by a bunch of fascist scoundrels? Sounds like me.

I'll join as a trainee.

I might but it would be for training purposes only and would have no bearing on the NS world as a whole.

Hmm, dogpiling, countries building 500MT nukes, and getting invaded by a bunch of fascist scoundrels? Sounds like me.

I'll join as a trainee.

Hooray, I was mentioned! :D

Just to notify you, I'm all MT. As I am an army cadet and soon to be officer cadet at RMA Sandhurst.

Snap!

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If you'd like, you're welcome to invade me. I keep a plan for invasions in a folder somewhere on my computer, just gotta find it. Might be a good scenario for the training. ORBATs, invasion, occupation and revolution.

Exactly as i was planning, Void. :D

Hmm, dogpiling, countries building 500MT nukes, and getting invaded by a bunch of fascist scoundrels? Sounds like me.

I'll join as a trainee.

Welcome, Qing. Would you like us to intervene OOCly in your War against GWO and her puppets?

I couldn't care less about GWO. Don't worry about him, as I've studied his posts in the past and he's a bit godmoddy. His people never die, his tanks are virtually invincible, his defenses are superior to all, etc.

I've seen your post and i must say, I'm quite impressed. I think your a much better RP'er than i am. :D

I couldn't care less about GWO. Don't worry about him, as I've studied his posts in the past and he's a bit godmoddy. His people never die, his tanks are virtually invincible, his defenses are superior to all, etc.

I respect you, but my allies were provoked by you. That is the only reason I have declared war on you. I don't care about your land, I just want to have fun :D.

What would be a good idea is to maybe not RP just a military invasion, but an actual occupation - with a full fledged insurgency and all - of course using Iraq and Afghanistan as examples.

What would be a good idea is to maybe not RP just a military invasion, but an actual occupation - with a full fledged insurgency and all - of course using Iraq and Afghanistan as examples.

Yeah, thats what my plan was. Invasion with the assistance of the anti-monarchist rebels in my nation, occupation by one or more nations (I probably deserve to be on the recieving end of a dogpile after being in two of them :D) and eventual overthrow by the loyalists.

Yeah, thats what my plan was. Invasion with the assistance of the anti-monarchist rebels in my nation, occupation by one or more nations (I probably deserve to be on the recieving end of a dogpile after being in two of them :D) and eventual overthrow by the loyalists.

Well the good thing is that this can synthesize so many other components to NS RPing such as humanitarian aid (look up Sergio Vieria de Mello to see its consequences in a var zone), internal politics (Code Pink, the Democrats in 2006, and the surge debate), and diplomacy (look at how most of Western Europe felt after Bush invaded Iraq).

I think that - as these are training exercises - that these RPs should have as little effect on off-NSTO RPing as possible. I also think that say a scenario is a civil war/genocide in Nation X. Nation X should be made up for this training exercise. Also X's army, air force, police forces as well as insurgent groups A, B, C, and D should be trainer played for the most part.

I think that - as these are training exercises - that these RPs should have as little effect on off-NSTO RPing as possible. I also think that say a scenario is a civil war/genocide in Nation X. Nation X should be made up for this training exercise. Also X's army, air force, police forces as well as insurgent groups A, B, C, and D should be trainer played for the most part.


So Nation X would be a complelty seperate from any NS nation so their will be no knock on effect, with the trainers controling the Air Force, Army, Navy, Police, Civil services as well as trainers controling insurgents. Is that the gist of it?

So Nation X would be a complelty seperate from any NS nation so their will be no knock on effect, with the trainers controling the Air Force, Army, Navy, Police, Civil services as well as trainers controling insurgents. Is that the gist of it?

Well hopefully we would have only a few trainers doing so. But yes, we should have experienced people running the shop for these simulations and the whole thing should have no after effects on any NS RPing.

The object of which would be for an example RP for Newbies to look at and use as an example and base their own RPs and posts off. So these would be simulations, would we then have seperate ones in which Newbies could practise without fear of being annexed, dogpiled or just laughed at?

What would be a good idea is to maybe not RP just a military invasion, but an actual occupation - with a full fledged insurgency and all - of course using Iraq and Afghanistan as examples.

I've always tried to have this in mind with any of my past invasions. Unfortunately others in FT don't share the same ideas. What with all the psychotic A.I's running around with planet killers, interested in simply eradicating life instead of ruling it....It's hard to find those who want to expand their territory and indoctrinate the people instead of simply getting rid of them.

Hat's off to Chron, Sith, and the others who enjoy good 'ol fashioned imperialism.

The object of which would be for an example RP for Newbies to look at and use as an example and base their own RPs and posts off. So these would be simulations, would we then have seperate ones in which Newbies could practise without fear of being annexed, dogpiled or just laughed at?

No, the example RP would be the practice RP. No one would actually take the time to read an entire RP. This is why - with mentor guidance - we simulation, a scenario or whatever and have the new players learn as they go, and we critique them as they go along. Say you make a post and say "Newb A maybe make your characters' dialogue seem more life like."

And I think that we should have some sort of "book club". Reading is how you learn to write and how you write well. I say that get some people to read a book - hopefully something on Project Gutenberg - and we discuss that. Or we could actually try to read something but I think that won't turn out well.

Reading is how you learn to write and how you write well.

Kind of depends on what you're reading. ;)

Kind of depends on what you're reading. ;)

There was supposed to be a to in there.

Now typing is where I suck at. ANd I really should read more instead of hang around on forums all day.
lol

No, the example RP would be the practice RP. No one would actually take the time to read an entire RP. This is why - with mentor guidance - we simulation, a scenario or whatever and have the new players learn as they go, and we critique them as they go along. Say you make a post and say "Newb A maybe make your characters' dialogue seem more life like."
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That makes sense, so you offer advice or constructuve critisism along the way through out the RP. O I got the concept, its a mighty fine one, I wouldnt of thought it out that way, you should be commended.

That makes sense, so you offer advice or constructuve critisism along the way through out the RP. O I got the concept, its a mighty fine one, I wouldnt of thought it out that way, you should be commended.

It's not that big of a deal.

Maybe we should just start this off with a diplomatic conference. Of course, we need more trainees first...

I offer to become an FT trainer.

To be honest, I could probably use some training. I've been relatively inactive recently. Change me to trainee for now if you don't mind.

A diplomatic conference sounds good, I perosnally have been looking to join one, so it serves a dual purpose for me.

Oh I know its not a great big deal, I am just in a sucking up mood at the moment.

Maybe Mt trainer. I'm not sure I qualify for it yet. :$

Greetings, I have joined II and NS multiple times, while I have run many rp's I believe that I still have a lot to learn and I would be interested in joining.

I'll help out on the staff for the MT people.

A diplomatic conference sounds good, I perosnally have been looking to join one, so it serves a dual purpose for me.

Oh I know its not a great big deal, I am just in a sucking up mood at the moment.

Well I mean a diplomatic conference is easy to set up. I mean we all just go and talk about some basic topic, human rights or even better non-human sentient rights or something like that and you just roll. I mean, you do not have to go and do the background research that would be required for other simulations so this would be a good icebreaker for us all. Of course, we have.. three trainees? We need a lot more.

Also, I was thinking of doing a scenario - not for any training, just for fun - what if we rp our nations reacting to a genocide in a poor African nation, however as our nations not in their 2009 versions but their 1996 versions.

Just an idea.

I have a friend who has recently joined who I will direct here also you could put the link in your signatures or somthing like that.

I like the sound of that, you know what that scenario reminds me of, the UNOSOM mission to somalia in 1993, the background for one of the best war films in history Black Hawk Down. So yeah I would most definatly be interested in doing that paticular scenario.

I was going for a Rwanda where there is an actual intervention in there but that works too.

They never intervened in Rawanda, they let the Hutu population slaughter the Tutsi. The UN just pulled out all foreign nationals and then abandoned the so called 'safe zones' and let the massacre ensue. So yeah Rawanda proably would be a better basis, as long as we are allowed to intervene.

They never intervened in Rawanda, they let the Hutu population slaughter the Tutsi. The UN just pulled out all foreign nationals and then abandoned the so called 'safe zones' and let the massacre ensue. So yeah Rawanda proably would be a better basis, as long as we are allowed to intervene.

Of course yeah they would be allowed to come in - if you want your troops to do so. There would be no UN so this would be a coalition of the willing.

This probably would actually have an effect on your nations history, if you want to. I know how it will have an effect on my nation's history, though.

I'm sure I can weave it into my nations history, coaliton of the willing sounds so much better then the useless UN (but ill keep my opinions out of this) So yeah, if you set this up, gie me a shout and im in

Well the mid 90s was when New Brittonia really officially finalized its transition from Communist to democratic socialist. We have had democratic elections but due to inertia there has almost never been a non Communist or fusion government. Sometime around the early 90s, I am thinking, the Communist party, the Social Democracy party, the Labour, and the Workers' party all officially merged to form the modern CSWL (Communists, Socialists, Workers, and Labour party). In 2009 New Brittonia, the second largest party still is not a conservative party but the Greens.

Also our Governor-General is Retired General Victor Cecil so I wanted to make a back story for him ... which is now officially going to be heading the New Brittonian component in this mission.

I might want to chat it up with you on MSN or something to brainstorm, though.

Really, to get on topic, we need some more trainees stat.

Ok I have added you on MSN

Yeah, perhaps whenever we see a newbie we show them this thread and hope they decide to join on.

This genocide thing sounds good, not a full scale invasion, just intervention. That's what we need more of, small scale interventions, instead of nations just invading others left and right over trivial issues.

This genocide thing sounds good, not a full scale invasion, just intervention. That's what we need more of, small scale interventions, instead of nations just invading others left and right over trivial issues.

And it shall be noted and praised.

Welcome, Nehrland and Telros. :)

Noted, Void. :D

As for the Training War RP's. I have in mind that WE as trainers set off a good example by organizing Training War RP's. We will show how it works. The ORBAT, Proper RP'ing. OOC and IC seperation. and TRUE causes of war. Then the RP'ing itself. We can split our MT Teams to two. Invaders and Defenders. Just like the first NST Training War RP. Then we shall watch the fruits of our labor by letting the trainees organize a Training War RP of their own similar to ours and watch the fruits of our labor. :)

I find ORBATs archaic.

ORBAT OF THE GLORIOUS QING
- 1 million infantry
- a bunch of tanks and crap
- tech-wanky tech
- crappy planes
- ships?

And then casus belli are also outdated. Have you seen GWO attack with a legitimate casus belli except "I don't like you"?

And then casus belli are also outdated. Have you seen GWO attack with a legitimate casus belli except "I don't like you"?
Nnnnope.
I usually have a half-decent one, but I've been in a proverbial war desert recently. No hard feelin's? I didn't fire a shot after all. (That goes for you and Wolf's Hold :D)

Welcome, Nehrland and Telros. :)

Noted, Void. :D

As for the Training War RP's. I have in mind that WE as trainers set off a good example by organizing Training War RP's. We will show how it works. The ORBAT, Proper RP'ing. OOC and IC seperation. and TRUE causes of war. Then the RP'ing itself. We can split our MT Teams to two. Invaders and Defenders. Just like the first NST Training War RP. Then we shall watch the fruits of our labor by letting the trainees organize a Training War RP of their own similar to ours and watch the fruits of our labor. :)

Sounds good.

Oh, and if I may plug a rather useful tool? The Sunset Calculator? (http://sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php)
Theres a bunch of NS Calculators, but I personally find that to be sufficent for most things. Gives you a rundown of your nation, how much you spend on particular things, etc. thats good for RP'ing.

I'm not sure about my RP skills,ill let you judge them,but i think i could be helpfull asset in MT and character RP's if anybody needs help.

Welcome, Cukarica. :)

So, are there any objections/comments on my Training War RP?

I'll be in it. But how large will it be?

Like i said, it would be divided into two teams. So maybe 4 per team? and 8 in total.

I meant in restriction in the size of number. Like 1,000-10,000?

If you meant how much to commit. It's up to you, i guess. It'll be like an normal War RP.

I'm confused if its help for RP skills or NS skills but I'll sign up.

Both, my friend. Both. :)

I find ORBATs archaic.

lol. I've been in a war where the other guy told me how many bullets his troops were firing. As in, "16,000 4" shells, 7,000 8" shells, 450 36" shells, a bunch of other crap, and over 5 million bullets were unleashed upon the enemy positions!". He's improved since then, though.


And then casus belli are also outdated. Have you seen GWO attack with a legitimate casus belli except "I don't like you"?

Casus belli have been outdated for a long time. There have been wars that occurred because "we're trying to invade some other guy, and you're in the way". Still, usually people try to disguise them under a veneer of "We tried all kinds of diplomacy, but you refused to give up your communistic/fascist/democratic/undemocratic/evil/good/neutral/annoying ways! Oh, and we want land." Makes it look like there's a decent reason to go to war other than that you were really bored and the other guy called your leader a poopie head.

Can I sign up as a trainee please? I have a funny feeling I need it :D

Yeah, no need to say please though. :)
Welcome. :D

Looking forward to the RPs :D
Are we doing the diplomatic conference one first?

I think we have to decide on that matter as a whole.

I feel that, so we can teach people how to RP and maybe get some personalities for their leaders, we have a sort of "meeting", we talk about human (or non-human) rights and we roll with that.

I mean it would take less work to make a meeting than to make a scenerio, which is why we start off with that.

I agree with Brittionias suggestion

Aye, sounds good to me.
Also, this post was so not worthy of a new page. >.>

lol

So what would be a good topic. I am thinking of human rights, women's rights, and non-human sentient rights.

Anything else for an idea?

National rights, like territorial water claims, exclusive economic zones, and things like that, national airspace claims. I also agree that a conference should be first.

Well that is not terribly exciting though. I mean that would be requiring knowledge of mundane international law.

Well that is not terribly exciting though. I mean that would be requiring knowledge of mundane international law.

This is NS, what international law?

lol

So what would be a good topic. I am thinking of human rights, women's rights, and non-human sentient rights.

Anything else for an idea?

That sounds pretty solid. Maybe throw in a reference to a national disaster, debate action and then do an RP thread on that as a follow up? Better to get your feet wet in peace than war after all.

That sounds pretty solid. Maybe throw in a reference to a national disaster, debate action and then do an RP thread on that as a follow up? Better to get your feet wet in peace than war after all.

I must agree,peace is much better for the start.Later a training war should be introduced with two teams lead by two trainers on each side and rest of Trainees(for MT) for FT surely should be applied the same principle.
Also it should be started as a small conflict with maxed manpower and equipment.
But to return to the point,who will create the diplomatic thread and who will be involved?
Also for a little more developed plot i think i just have the idea for a training war...check this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=584502) out and give me some opinions.

And not to be pushy but i must say that somehow *think of a global conspiracy* im not added on the trainers list :P

I must agree,peace is much better for the start.Later a training war should be introduced with two teams lead by two trainers on each side and rest of Trainees(for MT) for FT surely should be applied the same principle.
Also it should be started as a small conflict with maxed manpower and equipment.
But to return to the point,who will create the diplomatic thread and who will be involved?
Also for a little more developed plot i think i just have the idea for a training war...check this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=584502) out and give me some opinions.

Your thread looks good. I've no objections to that being the training thread. Maybe more nations involved, although we haven't really got many trainee nations do we? :/

And not to be pushy but i must say that somehow *think of a global conspiracy* im not added on the trainers list :P
ITSH A CONSHPIRASHY! THE GOVERNMENTSH OF THE WORLD ARE RESHPONSHIBLE! THERE ISH NO SHPOON!:D

6-Trainess 10-Trainers. I think we are overstaffed.

6-Trainess 10-Trainers. I think we are overstaffed.

I think Qing got a ban for admitting to trolling, so that would make 5 trainees to 10 trainers. :/
Not sure though.

I think Qing got a ban for admitting to trolling, so that would make 5 trainees to 10 trainers. :/
Not sure though.

He didnt obviously...as hes being a troll yet again.

Would it be OK if I signed up as a trainee in both MT and FT? I'm not sure which setting I actually want to RP in, so I thought it might be a good idea to get a taste of both.

Can I sign up for a trainer, I do MT but could probably help train in PMT and PT quite easily.

I suggest actually setting up a region for newbies, so they can participate in all the needed RP together, and so newbs out what works best. They could then have separate RP threads that won't annoy others so much. Then they could graduate and would know several others of similar size that they could work with.

I must agree,peace is much better for the start.Later a training war should be introduced with two teams lead by two trainers on each side and rest of Trainees(for MT) for FT surely should be applied the same principle.
Also it should be started as a small conflict with maxed manpower and equipment.
But to return to the point,who will create the diplomatic thread and who will be involved?
Also for a little more developed plot i think i just have the idea for a training war...check this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=584502) out and give me some opinions.

And not to be pushy but i must say that somehow *think of a global conspiracy* im not added on the trainers list :P

Well the storyline for that is weak so that won't be an actual NSTO sponsored training mission.

This thread id dying IMO, so we need to work on a thread ... stat. We need to brainstorm ideas, locations, and speaking topics for this meeting.

Would it be OK if I signed up as a trainee in both MT and FT? I'm not sure which setting I actually want to RP in, so I thought it might be a good idea to get a taste of both.

Please do so, I prefer MT but that's just me.

Genocide of a race or maltreatment of POWs by some made up nation/one of us sparks a human rights summit hosted by one of us? - Diplomacy, Character Development, MT

A multi-national anti-terrorism force is created and put into action after threats/bombing attacks, maybe even some terrorists getting their hands on a dirty bomb? - Character RP, Character Development, MT

Relics of an ancient race are discovered on a planet in a Neutral Zone, sparking a debate over who can claim ownership over them? - War (possibly), Diplomacy, descriptions, FT

Spies from one nation are caught in a number of nations and the response? - War (possibly), diplomacy, MT

Those are the only ones I can think of off the top o' me head.

Well, I wouldn't mind asking for help, I know I need to improve on my general military (esp navy) skills, I'm MT and prefer character RP, and I specialize in terrorist attacks xD

Eh, I dunno how this works, but meh, I'm asking for help anyweh

OK go for it. I am thinking that maybe each trainer "sponsors" a trainee, although the entire Trainers group will help the trainee learn, in their own special way.

I will join as a trainee.

Oh. Another possible RP, that I've been thinking of doing for a while.

Bank Hiest gone wrong, robbers forced to take hostages, RP as robbers, hostages or SWAT - Character, different perspectives, MT.

Please do so, I prefer MT but that's just me.

Great. Count me in, then.

Oh. Another possible RP, that I've been thinking of doing for a while.

Bank Hiest gone wrong, robbers forced to take hostages, RP as robbers, hostages or SWAT - Character, different perspectives, MT.

Your forgetting the bank owner, who would be outside, yelling at SWAT!

Your forgetting the bank owner, who would be outside, yelling at SWAT!

OOC: Well, in my bank hiest plan, I'd just take the manager hostage fir-
Uh....
Bad phrasing....
:D

I think a good idea for the Warfare training, would be to have it as being like war games, like a large military training exercise.

Not too large now, its easier to train people to first get more detailed when dealing with smaller numbers over several hundred thousand or million.

Not too large now, its easier to train people to first get more detailed when dealing with smaller numbers over several hundred thousand or million.

I meant large as in the number of nations participating in the operation, not in the number of troops.

Oh, yea, then I'm up for that, lol.

I will join as a trainee.

Glad to see that you have applied as a trainee.Welcome aboard!

Well, this might just take off after all, with MODS referring people here, and all.

Thanks.

I think I'm ok when it comes to general RP it's just war and stuff I think I need help with

I'll sign up as a trainer in MT/PMT/PT stuff in II

Is anyone actually updating this all?

Just finished updating. Sorry I wasn't that active. Exams week is ongoing.

Welcome to all that signed up.

Good lord, how did it take me this long to find this thread?

Anyway, I would be more than glad to sign up as a trainer, MT and only very slightly PMT.

I am an avid reader/writer/speaker, hence my ever-present ire at the widespread misuse of and failure at grammar, spelling, and indeed the entire English language. I would be willing to coach/train/advise newbs in several areas:

General Writing Skills(grammar, spelling, etc.).

Literary style, particularly with regards to speeches, prose, descriptions, etc.

Negotiations. I can get people to work together, to understand each other, to smooth out differences, etc.

Vague military doctrine. Not much, only the very little I pick up from reading books and having been an USAF cadet for two years.


Things I will not do, just because I have no idea how to do them:

Give advice regarding designs and technology.

Give advice about any language other than English and very limited German.

Tell you how to run your country, do your writing for you, etc.

That's a basic overview of how I see myself as a trainer.

And yet again im not listed as a MT trainer.You broke my hart *runs away and cries in a corner* :(

And yet again im not listed as a MT trainer.You broke my hart *runs away and cries in a corner* :(

*pats on back, pickpockets a frag mine onto you and runs like hell* :D

*pats on back, pickpockets a frag mine onto you and runs like hell* :D

I have frag mine resistance +10 :gundge: xD

And yet again im not listed as a MT trainer.You broke my hart *runs away and cries in a corner* :(



I have frag mine resistance +10 :gundge: xD

*Takes out Fat-Man*
How about 'Nuke-to-the-face Resistance'?

Hmm im not that resistant to nukes ;) and im gonna stop spam-like posting now :D

So anyone knows who will be involved in the diplomatic thread as it seems we need to organise before we make the thread.

Everyone, I'd say. Create it, close it except for NST members and then post the link here.

Hey,

I`m completely new to NationStates RP - yet I`ve been RPing for around 5-6 years now, and I`ve been playing NationStates or around a month or so. I`d generally need some.. Uhm.. "Guidance" in NationStates RP, any advice would be good advice! And I guess I would be modern tech? >_>

I supose Phil should do that as im not listed as a trainer,yet again lol.
But i realy need to stop complaining about it :P


EDIT:

And Abi Crusans welcome aboard.

Also it would be very helpfull for you to read these threads (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543994) as they have proved themselves very helpfull to newcomers.Also read some of the other threads created by other members to get a view of things.
Welcome to Nation States,im glad to see a new face here

Thanks, Cukarica,

I have had a general look over the theads here, to get my grips with it all, and all that jazz. I think I sort of have some basic form of understanding of how it all works out..

I was an NST before, might as well be one again.

Won't have to edit my siggy. :P

Good Trailers,its very good to see a veteran interested.
I supose youre in. :)

What's the status on this thing?

Helpfull bump for interested people

@Gesford this "thing" is still working,only minor inactivity as Phil is kinda busy at the moment.

Is this dead? It seemed like a good idea to me...

Not dead, simply a little sleepy right now!

There, I'm back. What a week. Sorry i wasn't that active this past week. RL Commitments are killing me. But now, I'm back.

Welcome to all that signed up.

Bumpity.

I might as well continue my membership to the second thread. For FT, old boy.

I would like to sign up as a trainee