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The Four Heatons goes into Isolationism

The Four Heatons
16-02-2009, 16:03
Four Heatons News Service
Special Broadcast

This morning, under orders from the President with the unaminious support of congress following the wold hold fiasco, The Allied States of The Four Heatons shall go into a state of Isolation. We shall have no contact with the outside world, except through a new department of isolation trade, no citizins will be permeeted to leave during this period of isolation. Nobody will be permeted to enter the Allied States. All troops and navy, airforce assets have been recalled.

<Falcon Montian Command Centre>

"Madam President, here's our Isolation plane" General White said "We shall use much of our Defense budget to encircle the country in a permiter of bunkers, and other defenses"
"ALright, get on it immediatly"
Serbian_Soviet_Union
16-02-2009, 16:07
This is what happens when your nation decides to go aggressive and hostile towards another nation.
Salzland
16-02-2009, 16:09
OOC: There's no need for this, and there's no need for following Four Heatons across multiple threads to harass him.

I'm standing up for you, Heatons, so come on back. There's no reason for you to be driven off NationStates over this.
The Four Heatons
16-02-2009, 16:09
OOC: Actually It's due to the fact that the FH did not start the war, nor set of a nuclear device, yet was dogpiled, and it's an interesting way for my nation to go.
The Four Heatons
16-02-2009, 16:10
OOC: I still intend to stay on nationstates, but my Rps for a few weeks will be based on internal issues and developments,
Salzland
16-02-2009, 16:16
OOC: If that's what you want, then I can't stop you. Based on current IC actions, the Armed Republic would almost certainly come up with trade offers for your country, to ensure that you have access to the goods you would normally import from the world at large. In other words, since no country is totally self-sufficient, we'd make sure your people don't starve to death, or such.
The Four Heatons
16-02-2009, 16:18
OOC: That would be brillient, when your willing, you can post such a offer in thsi thread if you wish?
Imperial isa
16-02-2009, 16:22
OOC: There's no need for this, and there's no need for following Four Heatons across multiple threads to harass him.

ooc don't waste your breath with SSU they don't listen to anyone, but themself

TFH one thing you should have done ,was a link to the thread of the attack so others can read what happen
Salzland
16-02-2009, 16:22
To: The Four Heatons Foreign Ministry
From: Office of the Minister of Commerce, Salzland
CC: Nations of the World

Having noted the Four Heatons' decision to withdrawal from the broader international community, in the face of overwhelming political, economic and military pressure;

The Armed Republic of Salzland wishes to immediately propose a mutual Free Trade Agreement between the nations of Salzland and The Four Heatons. Said Agreement will take effect immediately, and will encompass all goods and services available on the world market, excluding export-restricted military hardware.

Should the Four Heatons require more goods than it has funds to purchase, a $500 Billion stipend will be allocated from the Salzland Foreign Assistance Program to cover essential imports such as food, fuel and medical technologies.

Signed,

Roger Edwards
Minister of Commerce
Salzland
16-02-2009, 16:23
ooc don't waste your breath with SSU they don't listen to anyone, but themself

TFH one thing you should have done ,was a link to the thread of the attack so others can read what happen

OOC: I realize that, which is why I'm basically allying myself with Four Heatons. If they won't respond to polite requests, they'll respond to a military larger than most of their countries.
The Four Heatons
16-02-2009, 16:25
Official Responce
From: THe Four Heatons, Department of Isolation Trade
To: Officer of Minister for Commerce, Salzland

The Department of Isolation Trade, thanks you for this offer. We gratefully accept and will commence immediatly. Again thank you

End Message
Serbian_Soviet_Union
16-02-2009, 16:27
The Four Heatons nation should be penalised and condemned for it's hostile violent behaviour it has taken upon the victimised state of the Wolf Hold.
Salzland
16-02-2009, 16:34
To: The Four Heatons Foreign Ministry
From: Office of the Minister of Defense, Salzland
CC: Nations of the World

Having noted the recent incidents involving your nation and The Wolf Hold;

We support your decision to unilateraly embrace a peaceful solution to said incidents, and recall your forces to your nation. Should any nation pursue acts of retribution upon your military or civil assets, it will be constituted as a direct attack upon the Armed Republic of Salzland, and responded to as such.

This is not to say that we condone wanton acts of aggression. Our actions in this instance are guided solely by The Four Heatons' willingness to enter a self-imposed state of isolation, until such time as they feel comfortable re-entering the international community.

Signed,

Ian Williams
Minister of Defense
Serbian_Soviet_Union
16-02-2009, 16:38
To prevent any future wars and conflicts, the Four Heatons nation should stay isolated permanently with limited trade routes to and from the nation of Four Heatons untill the government of Four Heatons is ready to pay repairations to the Wolf Hold nation.
Falkasia
16-02-2009, 16:40
To: The FSSU
From: The Glorious People's Republic of Falkasia
We believe that you are the one who should be penalized, following Four Heatons around and making wild and rambunkous acqusations that you yourself have no evidence to backup. The nations of Four Heatons was unluckily caught in a war, which thankfully was prevented peacefully; and now you're going about threantening him! Therefore, if you do not stop harassing this country, The Four Heatons, Falkasia will be forced to intervene with both military, economic, and political action.
Fatatatutti
16-02-2009, 16:41
To prevent any future wars and conflicts, the Four Heatons nation should stay isolated permanently with limited trade routes to and from the nation of Four Heatons untill the government of Four Heatons is ready to pay repairations to the Wolf Hold nation.
The same could be said for every nation that participated in the escalation of this utterly stupid war.
Serbian_Soviet_Union
16-02-2009, 16:43
The FSSU as of now will put this issue to rest and will not be making any contacts with the Four Heatons Government, all trade routes and contact between FSSU and Four Heatons will be cut.
The Four Heatons
16-02-2009, 16:43
OOC: For referrance, how long is it likely to take to fortify, by use of sandbags, pillboxs ect, would it be around 6nationstates months, or more?
Imperial isa
16-02-2009, 16:44
To SSU

how can you cut trade routes with Four Heatons when you never had any with them in the first place
Salzland
16-02-2009, 16:45
To: The FSSU
From: The Glorious People's Republic of Falkasia
We believe that you are the one who should be penalized, following Four Heatons around and making wild and rambunkous acqusations that you yourself have no evidence to backup. Therefore, if you do not stop harassing this country, The Four Heatons, Falkasia will be forced to intervene with both military, economic, and political action.

OOC: Easy, Falk. Trying to defuse the situation. Well, until my next post, anyway.

***

To: The FSSU
From: Office of the Minister for Foreign Relations, Salzland
CC: Nations of the World

To Whom It May Concern,

The Armed Republic wishes to ask that your nation stop aggravating a situation that has already been peacefully concluded. All sides have clearly suffered enough, and the Four Heatons may potentially suffer a great deal of economic hardship in the future, simply for electing to take the moral high road and submit to a peaceful settlement.

That being said, your suggestions for future Four Heatons trade and foreign policy interactions will be placed "Under Advisement." In the trash bin.

Signed,

J. Marcus Davis
Minister for Foreign Relations
Salzland
16-02-2009, 16:47
OOC: For referrance, how long is it likely to take to fortify, by use of sandbags, pillboxs ect, would it be around 6nationstates months, or more?

OOC: Depending on what would be fortified (Road, harbors, entire national borders) it could take anywhere from months to decades, and cost well into the tens (if not hundreds) of billions of dollars, if not more. If you want to do this, I would highly suggest that you not go through with it. It would bankrupt your country, and be an utterly pointless act.
Falkasia
16-02-2009, 16:47
OOC: Yea, sorry about that. I guess really with people like that, military threats are the only things that get through.
Imperial isa
16-02-2009, 16:47
OOC: For referrance, how long is it likely to take to fortify, by use of sandbags, pillboxs ect, would it be around 6nationstates months, or more?

ooc took years for the germans to build the Atlantic Wall, so long then six month,then again how big is you nation ?
Salzland
16-02-2009, 16:48
OOC: Yea, sorry about that. I guess really with people like that, military threats are the only things that get through.

OOC: It's cool, was more concerned with you stealing my thunder. :p
Serbian_Soviet_Union
16-02-2009, 16:49
I will put this into rest and will not be making any more comments directed or indirected to the Four Heatons nation and it's current government.
The Four Heatons
16-02-2009, 16:50
OOC: Well it's not going to be all concrete and such, but it's about the size of erm...france i think, most of my army is taking part, it's more a temporary mesaure before proper defense's that will take years to construct.
Salzland
16-02-2009, 16:53
OOC: Well it's not going to be all concrete and such, but it's about the size of erm...france i think, most of my army is taking part, it's more a temporary mesaure before proper defense's that will take years to construct.

Setting up a large series of fixed defensive positions, in this day and age, is an incredibly wasteful proposition. Such fortifications would tie down large numbers of your troops, while potential enemies would only have to overwhelm one small section of the line before breaking through into your rear areas and wreaking havoc.

There's a reason why the German blitzkrieg worked so well in World War II...
The Four Heatons
16-02-2009, 16:57
OOC: I mean for border control, perhaps, big defences are a waste, but I still want something to keep my people in and attempt to keep possible enemy spies ect out. So no big defenses, just small scale border control?
Salzland
16-02-2009, 17:02
OOC: If you want to keep your people in (depending on what type of nation yours is, specifically island, land-locked, peninsula, etcetera) then the most economical thing you can do would be to build a fence along land borders, with random patrols by Border Patrol personnel, and have your Coast Guard patrol any coastlines. Though this, again, would not be a wise decision.

Nations need foreign travel, whether it is businessmen going abroad to negotiate contracts for vital resources or new technologies, or tourists arriving in your nation bringing in hard currency. As for enemy spies, well, I would seriously welcome someone coming after your country. The phrase 'Turkey Shoot' comes to mind when I look at the nations currently hostile to yours.

My recommendation would be for you to adopt a stance of political isolationism, whereby your nation seeks to avoid involvement in foreign affairs whenever possible, for as long as you want. Let your people have the freedom to see the world, and have form whatever economic relations they want. Otherwise, you're going to turn your country into North Korea, and I doubt even my support will be able to keep you afloat for very long.
Ustio North
16-02-2009, 17:06
I will put this into rest and will not be making any more comments directed or indirected to the Four Heatons nation and it's current government.

OOC: FSSU, do the members of II a favour and read the stickies before posting anymore, and make sure you know the difference between OOC and IC posts.
The Four Heatons
16-02-2009, 17:11
OOC: In that case, I'll do waht you suggest,
Salzland
16-02-2009, 17:12
OOC: In that case, I'll do waht you suggest,

OOC: Groovy! Now that peace and common sense have broken out across the world, I'm going to finish my History project, so I don't fail out four weeks into the bloody class.
Ustio North
16-02-2009, 17:15
OOC: Groovy! Now that peace and common sense have broken out across the world, I'm going to finish my History project, so I don't fail out four weeks into the bloody class.

OOC: XD

"World Peace restored, and now for my homework!"
Pyshoria
16-02-2009, 17:59
OOC: As for me, I have a feeling that someone will start something before the four heatons gets back
Salzland
16-02-2009, 18:18
OOC: As for me, I have a feeling that someone will start something before the four heatons gets back

(OOC: Were such an individual/group to try such an action, it would prove to be an exceedingly bad idea.)
The Wolf Hold
16-02-2009, 18:22
(OOC- Well you have nothing to worry about from me, Ill be good from now on)
The Philippiniada
16-02-2009, 18:23
(OOC: Were such an individual/group to try such an action, it would prove to be an exceedingly bad idea.)

Agreed. :D. Salz, I'm bored. Care to do an RP?
The Wolf Hold
16-02-2009, 18:25
OOC- You think your bored, I was expecting a world war
Albundania
16-02-2009, 18:28
ooc- same here. *sigh*
The Philippiniada
16-02-2009, 18:34
OOC: LOL, Well. You can't always get what you want... tell you what. You want a War Training RP?
The Wolf Hold
16-02-2009, 18:36
OOC- Im game for anything
Gun Manufacturers
16-02-2009, 20:00
The ASoGM respects The Four Heatons decision, but reminds them that the ASoGM is willing to open trade negotiations if The Four Heatons wishes to pursue them.
The Grand World Order
16-02-2009, 20:40
Official Response of the Fascist Federation of the Grand World Order

The Federation will declare that should the isolationist sovereignty of the Four Heatons be violated, the Order will act fully and decisively to fight the aggressor, and if the aggressor is one of the nations that started the conflict, act to destroy the aggressor altogether. The Order would also like to remind the Wolf Hold that one hundred and thirty-four planes of the Federal Air Force were destroyed in a nuclear attack, and that the Order has a casus belli for straightforward invasion.

Furthermore, the Order would like to tell the Serbian Soviets (Or whatever the hell their names are) to shut their pompous mouths.

With love, the Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs.