NationStates Jolt Archive

VSIC
"Are you sure this is wise my liege? The Chazakans will never allow us to proceed with this."
"Let them try to stop, we must protect ourselves, and if we must invest in WMDs to do that than by Trilobitus (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=580186) we will. You know as well as I do that we have faced many threats that were a hair breath of a way from going nuclear and we had to rely on our defense satellites and could not respond in kind if it had gone nuclear"
"Correct sire but nukes?"
"Yes Nukes, now send the message."

(highest encryption, Alpha Transmission and Encoding)To: Arms dealers, terrorists and other scum erh honorable sellers,

The Chaz people have had a long and rich history against weapon of mass destruction but recent events in our short history of independence has shown us the error of these ways such events as the Mewsland Incident several months before our independence from the Grand Chazaka Empire. As such the Chazakain Kingdom is looking to purchase various nuclear, biological and chemical stocks for a reasonable price. For nuclear weapons we are seeking weapons ranging in size from tactical to full blown nation killers, we are leaving the B&C up to the sellers imagination. While we already have a fair number of launchers we are also seeking ICMBs and "scuds".

occ: My King's kind of gone off his rocker due to several failed/successful invasions and as such is seeking WMDs, I'd like no invasions/assassinations just yet but if you can pm a good reason...
*edit+2*
and one liners won't be acceptable, glares at 101st, and your response is now good so unglares.

Jerry Fraiser had received the letter from Chazakian.

"What should we do sir?", asked James, a secretary.

"Well, Chazakian could prove to be dangerous..." his voice trailed off as John Winters entered the room.

"What does the letter say?" asked John.

"Sir, the Chazakian goverment wants nuclear weapons sir," said Jerry.

"Well, tell them that we might have a deal but we wonder why," said John as he left the room to check on his other departments.

To: Chazakian
From: 101st Military Storefront

We would like to ask the use of the WMD. We will provide a supply of nuclear weapons for you for the cost over 1 billion USD, only if you sign a missile defense treaty. Please reply immediantly.

Signed
Jerry Fraiser
-Minister of Defense

OOC: Sorry I was rushed... Is this better?

"Should we?" Michael Shipyards asked.

"Well, we do offer the torpedoes. Chazakain has bought a lot from us," Jacob, his secretary, replied. "To be frank, Chazakain's advanced enough that, if it weren't for all the wars Chazakain's involved in, it could have had nukes already."

"And Chazaka," Michael retorted. "Which, mind you, has also been a fairly good customer of ours."

"Feel them out. Figure out why they're looking to the world at large, rather than running a secret program," Jacob suggested.

"Fair enough. Go call Jason."

To: HM the King of Chazakain
From: Jason Munitions, C. of DC
Re: NBC weapons request

While we are not unwilling to sell nuclear weapons, we are curious as to why you wish to acquire such weapons. What purposes would weapons of mass destruction serve for your military? Why do you feel the need for an independent strategic deterrent, and against whom?
More importantly, why buy someone else's nuclear weapons, rather than building your own?

To: Chazakain
From: SRCP SVR [Sluzhba Vneshney Razvedki, or Foreign Intelligence Agency]



We can arrange your procurement of the SS-23 "Oka" intermediate range missile system for a negotiable price. Nuclear warheads will have to shipped separately, however.

Jerry Fraiser had received the letter from Chazakian.

"What should we do sir?", asked James, a secretary.

"Well, Chazakian could prove to be dangerous..." his voice trailed off as John Winters entered the room.

"What does the letter say?" asked John.

"Sir, the Chazakian goverment wants nuclear weapons sir," said Jerry.

"Well, tell them that we might have a deal but we wonder why," said John as he left the room to check on his other departments.

To: Chazakian
From: 101st Military Storefront

We would like to ask the use of the WMD. We will provide a supply of nuclear weapons for you for the cost over 1 billion USD, only if you sign a missile defense treaty. Please reply immediately.

Signed
Jerry Fraiser
-Minister of Defense

OOC: Sorry I was rushed... Is this better?
occ Yes

To: Fraiser

We have received your offer and after reviewing our tentative offer is no thanks but if we can not find a better option....

"Should we?" Michael Shipyards asked.

"Well, we do offer the torpedoes. Chazakain has bought a lot from us," Jacob, his secretary, replied. "To be frank, Chazakain's advanced enough that, if it weren't for all the wars Chazakain's involved in, it could have had nukes already."

"And Chazaka," Michael retorted. "Which, mind you, has also been a fairly good customer of ours."

"Feel them out. Figure out why they're looking to the world at large, rather than running a secret program," Jacob suggested.

"Fair enough. Go call Jason."

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Originally Posted by encryption scheme C
To: HM the King of Chazakain
From: Jason Munitions, C. of DC
Re: NBC weapons request

While we are not unwilling to sell nuclear weapons, we are curious as to why you wish to acquire such weapons. What purposes would weapons of mass destruction serve for your military? Why do you feel the need for an independent strategic deterrent, and against whom?
More importantly, why buy someone else's nuclear weapons, rather than building your own?


To: Jason Munitions, C. of DC
Reply:Re NBC weapons request

We hope that NBCs would help serve as a further deterrent to certain war mongering elements of the international community, as to whom the list is quite long if you really wish to know we can fax you it. Competition if we built our own, then there would only be one source, one type, so if it failed, there is also the matter that we have little to no natural uranium or other fissionable materials in our country.

To: Chazakain
From: SRCP SVR [Sluzhba Vneshney Razvedki, or Foreign Intelligence Agency]



We can arrange your procurement of the SS-23 "Oka" intermediate range missile system for a negotiable price. Nuclear warheads will have to shipped separately, however.

To: SRCP SVR

We thank you for your offer, now how much and how many missiles would you be willing to sell?

Encryption Scheme-C1
To: HM the King, Chazakain
From: Jason Munitions
Re: NBC weapons

In designing a strategic deterrent, it is necessary to know what you'll need to deter. Please fax me the details.
As for your lack of fissionable materials, why not try the open market? If you are under blockade, then it would be nearly impossible to slip in nuclear weapons anyway.

To: Jason Munitions
Secured Fax, encryption number 67: Nations we wish to deter

-Greston
-The Northern Baltic
-Leistung
-Chernobyl-Pripyat
-Waldenburg 2
-Rithian(ignores common courtesy)
-Whiskeasy
-Stoklomolvi(has used nukes, has threatened to nuke almost everyone,etc)
-Heirosoloa
-Chernobl
-Parilisa
-Holy Paradise
-Myakoo
-Miroxia
-The United Workers Republic (The Northern Baltic)
-Greal
-Brittanican Adenia
-Telros
-Royal British States
-New Kereptica
-Lord Sumguy
-The Provincial Republic of The Grestonian Controlled Ryouese Islands
-Ustio North
-Denecaep
-Heirosoloa
-Eurasian Soclialist Republics
-HEGEMONY (Alliance)
-COMINTERN (Alliance)
-ANAN (Alliance)
-Chazaka
-Anagonia
-Fictions
-Lyras
-The Grand World Order
-The PeoplesFreedom
-Unkerlantum
-Akimonad
-Rykarian Territories
-East Congaree
-Buddah C
-Fighter4u
-Kargucastan
-Skibereen
-Razafas
-IFA (Alliance)
-PACT of IRON (Alliance)
-Mewsland
-Bohiva
-Korintar
-Bevue-Ville and various houses
ones we specially want to "deter" have the tag

Encryption Scheme-C1
To: HM the King, Chazakain
From: Jason Munitions
Re: NBC weapons

In designing a strategic deterrent, it is necessary to know what you'll need to deter. Please fax me the details.
As for your lack of fissionable materials, why not try the open market? If you are under blockade, then it would be nearly impossible to slip in nuclear weapons anyway.

To: Jason Munitions
Reply Re: NBC weapons
Why we are not currently under a blockade if we suddenly were openly buying large amounts of fissionable material the remnants of the Greater Chazaka Empire(Chazaka and Chazada) would most likely put us under one, due to their misguided honor, sense of righteousness and gneral desire to not have nukes/WMDs spread.

*edits*
oops, upgrades encryption

Encryption scheme-C2
To: HM the King, Chazakain
From: Jason Munitions
Re: NBC weapons

So, in other words, you fear Communists, Fascists, and at least a few democratic states? How did you get into this mess?
As your needs seem to be more for a strategic deterrent (given the nature and size of the states you feel compelled to deter), rather than a tactical one, we would recommend you look elsewhere. We have yet to design strategic nuclear weapons.

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To: HM the King of Chazakain
From: Ministry of Defense
Subj: Nuclear Weapons Proliferation

We find it very interesting that you would send such a list of "dangerous" nations over an open telephone line, though we find it even more so that we are number three on said list.

We take our national security very seriously. Do not trifle with us.

Cordially,
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Jan Tirpitz
Minister of Defense for the Federal Republic of Leistung

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To: HM the King, Chazakain

We have heard that you need nukes. Luckily, Bévue excels in nuke-making in addition to its normal plethora of talents. Our new A-1 Nuclear Warhead uses lots of uranium and stuff. We'll sell you one real cheap.

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Prince Jean-Auguste le Pourpre

"Jason, what the hell?" Michael screamed into the phone. "We could have an international incident on our hands!"

"Not my fault, dammit! I used one-time pads, for goodness sake; I didn't think he'd be so silly as to actually fax it to me on an open telephone line!" Jason shouted back.

"Which is why you said fax?"

"Dammit, I was tired! I'm sorry about it, but not my damn fault!"

"Okay, fine. At least the fallout won't hit us..."

"Interesting choice of words there, Mike," Jacob said.

"Shut up."

To: FR of Leistung
From: David Law, C. of DC
Re: Nuclear proliferation

Naturally, we were shocked by the sheer quantity and variety of 'dangerous' nations on the king of Chazakain's list. He must be mad! We gave him an excuse, for courtesy's sake, rather than telling him that we don't sell to madmen.

moderate encryption
To: Chazakainian Monarchy
From: Korintari Directory
Let it be noted we have noticed your desire for a nuclear arsenal, and we are prepared to use full force against any attempts to aquire one. Also we notice that you have listed some of your allies in the fax, we find in this the signs of a paranoid military-industrial complex. Any attempt to use nuclear weapons against us will certainly be responded to in kind by the Free Democracy of Korintar, due to your nation's utter disregard for human life.

open encryption
To: Defense Corporations
From: FDK
Any nation that tries to enter into a WMD deal with Chazakain will be dealt with most harshly. You have been warned.
OoC: sorry for double post.

VSIC
"Micheal!"
"Why the heck did you send the list on an unsecured line?""
"Erh I..."
"Wasn't thinking! You lucky we didn't send the bloody list of country's we were going to nuke first!"
"You're fired, now get out!
"NOW!"
Bloody idiot thought Jack of Blades, lucky restriction on the death penalty haven't been removed yet...

High Encryption
To: Jason Munitions

Long story and thank your for your interest in our proposals, we wished it had turned out better for both of us.

Signed
XXX

OOC: 'open encryption?'

encryption scheme-K
To: FDK
From: Ming Law, CoDC
Re: Threats

It's one thing to sell a nation a deterrent against real threats. It's another when a nation wants to buy a deterrent against a vast range of threats, real and imaginary. The former is not merely acceptable, it is right - after all, better to deter a war, and thus force accommodation, than to let a war break out. Has it not been said, "If you want peace, prepare for war?" Had Chazakain had a nuclear deterrent, might you not have considered negotiation more strongly, perhaps sought arbitration for the Prosperity incident, perhaps avoided your war with Chazakain completely?
The latter, however, is merely coddling the madness of a paranoiac, and is rightfully rejected by us. We entered into talks with a man we initially thought rational, in order to sell him a deterrent against future wars with likely enemies. We have since left talks, as we found out they were with a madman, seeing enemies wherever he looked.

Defense Corporations Enquirer
"In Defense of Deterrence" - editorial
In light of the leaked Chazakain fax of 'dangerous nations,' and the fact that Jason Munitions, a subsidiary of the Big Five, had sought to sell Chazakain nuclear weaponry prior to the fax being sent, many in the Confederacy have called for a pledge to agree to never sell nuclear weapons. We disagree.
Obviously, nuclear proliferation is a scary prospect. Who does not shudder to think of the possibility of a madman with a finger on a nuclear button? Nonetheless, nuclear war can and has been avoided. Indeed, the prospect of nuclear war, scary as it is, can act as a force for good.
What is the primary cause of war? We would argue that war is the product of one nation thinking it can more easily solve its disputes by force than by negotiation. A strong, well-thought-out deterrent, of any sort, can and will force nations into reconsidering negotiation, avoiding war entirely.
There are those who argue that a nuclear deterrent ought to be banned, that nuclear weapons themselves have some sort of moral taint. We question this logic entirely - if nuclear weapons are morally tainted, are not bombs in general? If you allow the latter, why not the former - it's a bigger bomb, with radioactivity attached. If anything, nuclear weapons are less morally tainted - they deny cities to all, rather than permitting the nation with greater strength to bomb out its rivals' cities and steal them by force.
Therefore, we are in favor of a properly designed deterrent, one that confronts one's truly likely enemies with too great a threat for them to consider war. Chazakain was not seeking such a deterrent; nonetheless, do not let the ravings of a paranoid king lead you to reject the usefulness of nuclear weapons in deterrence.

VSIC
Jack of blades walked down a hallway in the Chazkain Palace, I'll never get royalty he thought, why do they always make their castles so dark and damp, heck why do they even keep castles in this day in age. sighing he turned the corner.
"Ah just the man I wished to see."
"My regent in training, Athena. I see you received the news."
"Indeed, your plan is working quite well, at this rate we won't even have to kill him, the people may well revolt and depose of him themselves or maybe his luck could finally run out in one of those nice invasions..."
"I don't known Athena, this plan could very well be the ruin of us all."
"Ah have faith my dear Jack, soon Ares will be forced to abide to the wishes of his people and I'll become Reagent... with you at my side of course."
"There are so many risks my regent in training, the King has signed and sent out quite a few things in his lifetime, his spies are everywhere, if someone tracks one down and compares it to the signature at the orders of nukes..."
"Don't you worry Jack, everything has been taken care of, my dear father won't last for more than a fortnight I can guarantee it."
"My lady." With that Jack was on his way, still at unease. So many risks, to many risks he thought...

OOC: 'open encryption?'

encryption scheme-K
To: FDK
From: Ming Law, CoDC
Re: Threats

It's one thing to sell a nation a deterrent against real threats. It's another when a nation wants to buy a deterrent against a vast range of threats, real and imaginary. The former is not merely acceptable, it is right - after all, better to deter a war, and thus force accommodation, than to let a war break out. Has it not been said, "If you want peace, prepare for war?" Had Chazakain had a nuclear deterrent, might you not have considered negotiation more strongly, perhaps sought arbitration for the Prosperity incident, perhaps avoided your war with Chazakain completely?
The latter, however, is merely coddling the madness of a paranoiac, and is rightfully rejected by us. We entered into talks with a man we initially thought rational, in order to sell him a deterrent against future wars with likely enemies. We have since left talks, as we found out they were with a madman, seeing enemies wherever he looked.

RE: threats
From: FDK
To: Ming Law
Your arguments are valid, as we would have arbitrated the dispute if it was found that Chazakain had a nuclear arsenal. It is merely that the people have grown a little paranoid (e.g. "Blue Scare") and have been looking for an excuse to involve themselves in this war, for obvious reasons. We are glad that you agree to reject "coddling the madness of a paranoiac" for that garners respect in the eyes of our government.- T'blis Oltavi, Director of International Affairs

*Sneaks into thread*
Yells "BUMP!"
and runs back out.

OOC: What about my offer?

*snip*

To: Bévue, encryption null

Fool Us Once Shame on You - Fool Us Twice Shame on Us.

Signed
XX

Easy Encryption
Ralkovia would be interested in supplying Chazakain with enough warhead to make Stoklomolvi's leaders head spin. These are all class A* nuclear weapons and have been built since the 1950's so upkeep will of course be your problem. We extend these weapons amidst are need to protect one of our own. Brother we shall be capable of sending over 1400 20 kiloton nuclear weapons. They have all passed the last inspection and are capable of shipment through ralkovian interests in chazakain.

Death guard will of course escort the weapons to the secure and final destination.
(I have a lot of old nukes accumulating and upkeeps a bitch. Also if tocrowkia found out I still had nukes in my hands I would be in bad position. So in the guise of acting like a friend to make a better relation I decided to kill both birds with one stone. Also Chazakain would you be interested in a little battle between the king and the death guard their to protect him and jack and athena and their supporters.)

Easy Encryption
Ralkovia would be interested in supplying Chazakain with enough warhead to make Stoklomolvi's leaders head spin. These are all class A* nuclear weapons and have been built since the 1950's so upkeep will of course be your problem. We extend these weapons amidst are need to protect one of our own. Brother we shall be capable of sending over 1400 20 kiloton nuclear weapons. They have all passed the last inspection and are capable of shipment through ralkovian interests in chazakain.

Death guard will of course escort the weapons to the secure and final destination.
(I have a lot of old nukes accumulating and upkeeps a bitch. Also if tocrowkia found out I still had nukes in my hands I would be in bad position. So in the guise of acting like a friend to make a better relation I decided to kill both birds with one stone. Also Chazakain would you be interested in a little battle between the king and the death guard their to protect him and jack and athena and their supporters.)

occ Yeah I'd be interested, since I was trying to think of a force that could take on the place guard and Athena/Jack could lead, originally I was just going to go the old civil war route, but since you already have death guards in Chazakain...

To: Ralovkia, High Encryption

We would be interested in your missiles. How much for the lot?

Stoklomolvi says,

"We received your message and we deny your attempted purchase, for we are most assuredly not terrorists or dishonourable scum."

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Imperial Communiqué
Βyzantinή Αytokratorίa
Byzantine Empire

While normally the plight of the NON-BELIEVER would be of no concern to his emminence the Emperor of Byzantiya, autokrator, kyrios, porphyrogennētos, despotēs, sebastokratōr, kaisar, sebastos, and Lord of Constantinople, this is not a normal situation.

The NON-BELIEVER cannot, now, nor can he ever, possess weapons of the magnitude you speak of, and we will exhaust every effort to ensure that they are not delivered.

The forces of Islam and Catholicism threaten our world every day, while we, the Orthodox pure, the last bastion of hope and the descendants of Rome herself right the wrongs made by the NON-BELIEVER. Why is it that the forces of Islam do not follow the One Holy and Apostolic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church? Is it because they are born with natural rights? Of course not. It is because they are born demons, devils sent by Satan himself, and just as we have purged our lands of NON-BELIEVERS, so too shall we defend our faith from them.

Stoklomolvi says,

"We received your message and we deny your attempted purchase, for we are most assuredly not terrorists or dishonourable scum."

"Then how did you get the message? since those two are the only ones we sent it too..."

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Imperial Communiqué
Βyzantinή Αytokratorίa
Byzantine Empire

While normally the plight of the NON-BELIEVER would be of no concern to his emminence the Emperor of Byzantiya, autokrator, kyrios, porphyrogennētos, despotēs, sebastokratōr, kaisar, sebastos , and Lord of Constantinople, this is not a normal situation.

The NON-BELIEVER cannot, now, nor can he ever, possess weapons of the magnitude you speak of, and we will exhaust every effort to ensure that they are not delivered.

"Hey Job get a look at this."
whistles "not in the much of a way of a speller eh?"
"erh, sure Job. Hey Trego get over here."
"pretty gusty for such a small nation and as their first response to boot."
"Indeed, what do you think should we send the image?"
"Yeah, do it I dare you."
http://tdistler.com/media/images/Motivational_Lunacy.jpg
(occ: wasn't what I was originally planning but it fits the thread :) )

weekend bump

In 2009
Wars was beginning.
Captain: What happen?
Mechanic: Somebody set up us the bump.
Operator: We get signal.
Captain: What!
Operator: Main screen turn on.
Captain: It's you !!
CATS: How are you sellers !!
CATS: All your bombs are belong to us.
CATS: You are on the way to selling to us.
Captain: What you say !!
CATS: You have no chance to survive make your time.
CATS: Ha ha ha ha ....
Operator: Captain !! *
Captain: Take off every 'BUYER'!!
Captain: You know what you doing.
Captain: Move 'BUYER'.
Captain: For great prices.

Encrypted

For absolutely no cost whatsoever. You will have to pay upkeep and maintenance though.

"Well what do you think general?"
"Its Its a Trap! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNLuq0lW50k)"
"Thank you general Ackbar, it is still a very juicy trap so let us spring it and hope we don't get burned to heavily.

Heavy Encrypted
To: Ralovkia agent(s)

We accept your offer, we now request the location to pick up your nukes.

Denecaep is offering the highly powerful WMD's
2 atom bombs
12 nuclear missles
300 cesium bombs
The price will be only 1,000,000 USD for all of these, as long as you will never direct them at Denecaep or its allies, and in a case of war, you will usually be more inclined to side with us. Basically, If you will ally with us, then we will give you these for an amazingly cheap price.

**Personally delivered by "Marketing Advisor" who got to Chazakain through corporate ties at the Merkonian embassy in Pheques**

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To: HM The King
From: Larry Bielson, Psychlum, Merkonia 9500 Commerce St., Accounting Dept.-Cube 433


We understand you are trying to bring warheads into your nation but that the smuggling poses a problem. In Merkonia we fund an international aide program that delivers healthcare to nations around the globe. We could, with a few Credits, influence a local embassy official to request aide assistance. All the warheads would be smuggled on one of our hospital ships disguised as supplies. When the boxes are flown into Pheques to be transported to the embassy your nation will inspect the boxes, no doubt, prior to departing the airfield. We could then intentionally put small arms in one of the crates marked specifically so that one of your officials could pick it out. You find the rifles and then confiscate the supplies. Leaving only a small marketing disaster for the relief project. After that you could request manual delivery and inspection of all supplies from that organization, taking what is needed from each load.

We do not want to know what the weapons are needed for, any details specifying use will be considered a breach of contract.

The only thing we want to see in the reply is a number per crate. We will contact after that.


BURN UPON COMPLETION

occ
The only thing we want to see in the reply is a number per crate. We will contact after that.
I'm assuming this means the number of nukes per quote.

VSIC
The embassy employee quickly delivered the note to his superiors who then passed it on until it reached the hands of Jack of blades. This could be the event that breaks the camels back he thought.

To: Whom it may concern
From: "The King"

We have reviewed your plan, and it suits our desires, we request roughly 1 nuclear weapon for the test run after that we can up it to 2 per.

I'm assuming this means the number of nukes per quote.

OOC: No, the amount of money per nuke.

A news story (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14436514&postcount=20) on this topic has appeared in the HOB new feed.

Encrypted
Large Rice Cargo ships will transport the nuclear weapons via the usual food shipments to Chazakain.