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Official Message from the Demented Schooling Corporation

As we all know, the world is a dangerous place. Terrorist activities in Questers, a civil war in Reichskamphen, and other instances where students get attacked, taken hostage, and so forth require a new brand of security. We decided that there is no longer a time and place for allowing underqualified outside companies to provide security to the six and a half million schools that our corporation owns world-wide. As such, we are now creating a separate Security Force for the Corporation. We will hire guards and other personnel to protect our schools everywhere.

In total, eight million Allanean nationals and ten million nationals of the other countries where DSC operates schools will be hired to form the Demented Security Forces.

They will be responsible for the provision of armed guards for schools, armed and operating in compliance with local law (i.e. no guns where they are no legal, obviously), and provision of quick-response police teams where this is legal to deal with terrorist activity or school shootings. Other services (campus police in colleges) may be provided, too.

For these reasons, the Corporation is now putting out a contract for the following equipment:

1.A submachinegun – a light, portable weapon for our school guards. We envision a light weapon to be carried openly, perhaps the size of a Steyr TMP. A carbine can also be considered for this role, if it is sufficiently compact.
2.A pistol, to be carried in conjunction with the submachinegun as a backup, or in countries where the latter is illegal.
3.An assault rifle, to be used by our quick-response teams.
4.An SUV-type vehicle for use by school security and tac-teams

Additionally, we would like someone to design and provide a uniform for our school guards. It must remain tactically functional on one hand, but on the other hand, it must not look too aggressive or too paramilitary (no camouflage patterns).

We will consider all applications for contracts. Cost, reliability, and ergonomics will all be factors.

That is all .And remember:

There is no schooling like Demented Schooling.

MILITARY ARMAMENTS COMPANY | HEAVY INDUSTRIES

ANGHELE M.O.D CERTIFIED DEFENSE CONTRACTOR

ISO 9001:2008 Compliant Manufacturer | Special Ocupation Tax II Payer (S.O.T)
NFTA - Class III/XI Certified Dealer
NFR - Certified Firearms And Destructive Devices Manufacturer
IATA - Registered Small Arms And Explosives Importer / Exporter
M.O.D Form 5C - Certified Ministry Of Defense Contractor



M.A.C Heavy Industries | Defense wishes to present our line of small arms to enter your trials.

We manufacture everykind of weapon,from,knives,pistols,submachine guns assault rifles to heavy machine guns and grenade launchers.


M.A.C- 56 5.56x45NATO Series Assault Rifles

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Basically,the M.A.C-56 is an improved,lightened and refined SIG SG-550 series rifle manufactured under license in Anghele. The M.A.C-56 uses the same gas operated system,with gas piston removably attached to the bolt carrier,and with rotating bolt with two massive lugs. The recoil spring is located around the gas piston rod,above the barrel,and the bolt carrier attached to the gas piston rod by the mean of removable charging handle.The gas port has gas regulator with two different open and one closed position (latter for firing rifle grenades).

The receiver of all M.A.C-5X series guns is made from stamped steel which makes it very resistant and has two major parts, upper and lower,which are connected by pushpins. The barrel is screwed into the upper receiver.Corrosion issues with the Sig 55X line of rifles have been addressed in the M.A.C-56 and all metal parts are now coated with a super corosion resistant Maritime Finish.The trigger unit has a safety/fire selector switch on the left side of the receiver, with 3 settings: safe, semi-auto, full-auto.If desired, additional module could be installed in the trigger mechanism to allow 2/3-rounds burst mode. Rear sights are drum-type or carrying handle integrated red-dot sights (like those found on Heckler-Koch rifles).On certain current production models rear sight is replaced with full-length Picatinny style rail with folding back-up reat sight.

The M.A.C-56 has muzzle compensator/flash hider of NATO-standard diameter, so it is possible to launch rifle grenades from the muzzle and fit a sound suppressor.

The M.A.C-56 can be fitted with detachable folding bipods under the handguard, and is issued with side-folding, skeletonized polymer buttstock. Every rifle of M.A.C-56 family can be fitted with proprietary, quick detachable scope mount, although current production rifles are usually fitted with one or more picatinny rails. Export versions can be equipped with commercial telescope sights, ACOG or "red dot" sights, depending on customer preferences.The M.A.C-56 also can be fitted with bayonet. Standard magazine capacity M.A.C-56 rifles is 30 rounds.

Standard magazines are made of polymer can be clamped together for ease of carry,using the magazine studs on the side of the magazine walls.Further variants such as a Kurz (compact) model a mid-size battle rifle in 7.62 and a sniper rifle are being developed as well as a machine gun and 30/40mm grenade launching module.

Specifications:

M.A.C-56|A STD M.A.C-56U|ASD

-Caliber: 5.56x45mm | 5.56x45mm

-Magazine Capacity: 20 or 30 Rounds [100 Rounds Drums Available On Request]

-Rate Of Fire:760 Rounds/Min | 780 Rounds/Min

-Length: 998 / 772 mm | 833 / 607 mm(924 / 698 mm)
(Stock Open / Folded)


M.A.C-56U|ASD Equipped with 3.5x Optical Sight [Available Without Sound Supressor/Moderator Call For Pricing] : 1800€

M.A.C-56|A STD [Can Be Equipped With The "U" Version Optical Sight At An Additional Cost] :1100€

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M.A.C Type-147|U

A further improvement to the Avtomat Kalashnikova |AK-47 line of combat assault rifles manufactured by M.A.C Heavy Industries while retaining the low-cost per unit/high reliability ratio.

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-Caliber: 7.62x39Russian

-Rate Of Fire: 630 Rounds Per Minute

-Muzzle Velocity: 720 m/s

-Action: Gas-Operated, Rotating Bolt With Locking Lugs

-Firing Modes: 0-1/A-B-3/F-20 Trigger Group

-Sights: Red-Dot/Optical Type

-Ammunition Feed System: 30-Round Detachable Box Magazine (Also Compatible With 40-Round Box Or 75-Round Drum Magazines From The RPK)

-Weight: 3.8 kg With Empty Magazine

-Length:

- 870 mm With Polymer Stock Extended

- 645 mm With Polymer Stock Folded

-Barrel Length: 418 mm

Features:

-Folding Sharpshooter Stock

-Hensoldt Optical 3.5x Red-Dot Sight

-Muzzle Brake/Quick Attach Sound Suppressor

-Plastic Furniture To Avoid Melting At High Rates Of Fire

-Fluted Match Barrel

-Precision Two-Stage Trigger

Users:

-Anghele Armed Forces And Anghele Law Enforcement Units

-In Civilian Use In Anghele

-Far Echo Islands Armed Forces/Government And Law Enforcement Units

-In Civilian Use In Far Echo Islands

Number Of Units Sold:

-540.000x Units

Price:USD 300$ Per Unit

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Type-147|U RPK

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The RPK is a gas operated, magazine fed, air cooled, selective fire weapon.The basic action,with a long-stroke gas piston located above the reinforced barrel and a rotating bolt, is similar to that of the Kalashnikov assault rifle.

The trigger unit and safety is also the same, therefore the RPK fires from a closed bolt in both semi-automatic and automatic modes.The barrel can be replaced in the field with a special tool included in the machine gun´s tool kit.RPK machine guns are fitted with integral folding bipods made from steel stampings.

The shoulder stock is adjustable in height and length.

Specifications:

-Caliber: 7,62x39 mm

-Weight: 4,8 kg empty

-Length: 1040 mm

-Length of barrel: 590 mm

-Feeding box magazine: Drum of 75 rounds,40 rounds box magazine

-Rate of fire: 900 rounds per minute

Price Per Unit: 450$ USD

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M.A.C Heavy Industries Sthelios .50BMG Long Distance Sniper Rifle

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Caliber: 12.7x99mm / .50BMG
Operation: Gas operated, semiautomatic
Barrel: 792 mm
Weight: 13.9 kg empty
Length: 1369 mm
Feed Mechanism: 5 rounds detachable box magazine

The Sthelios fifty caliber (12.7mm) sniper / antimateriel rifle is the latest development of M.A.C Heavy Industries.The Sthelios goal is to provide combat operators with highly accurate and rapid aimed fire at extended ranges.To achieve such goal, the Sthelios is built around gas operated, semiautomatic action, with single rear locking/tilting bolt. The two-part receiver is machined from high grade steel, the barrel is free-floated and fitted with effective muzzle brake. Easily detachable buttstock is fitted with recoil-reducing buttpad, as well as with folding rear grip, which also serves as a rear support leg. Top of the receiver is equipped with full length Picatinny type rail which can accept any compatible scope mount.The Sthelios can be brought down to basic sub-assemblies within three minutes for maintenance or compact transportation or storage. Rifle is fed using single stack detachable box magazines, which hold five rounds of ammunition.

Price: $8900USD

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Asgarn 12.7x99mm Heavy Machine Gun

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The Asgarn .50 BMG heavy machine gun is belt-fed, air-cooled machine weapon capable of semi-automatic and automatic fire. The Asgarn fires from a closed bolt at all times, and uses a short-recoil operated action with a vertically sliding locking block, which rises up to lock the bolt to the barrel extension, and drops down on recoil to unlock the bolt from the barrel. It also has a bolt accelerator, made in the form of a lever located at the bottom of the receiver. Upon recoil, once the barrel is unlocked from the bolt, it strikes the accelerator, so the kinetic energy of the recoiling barrel is quickly transmitted to the bolt, improving the reliability of the weapon.
It features a semi-direct gas-impingement system which by turning the gas plug from 1 to 6 increases and decreases the rate of fire of the machine gun by taking exiting gas from the barrel while firing and chanelling it to the bolt through reinforced gas tube,the gas plug system is also suitable (as seen on FN FAL´s) to increase reliability in extremely cold weather.

Barrels are screwed into the barrel extension and are not quick-detachable on standard Asgarn weapons; furthermore, once the barrel is installed in the weapon, the headspace must be adjusted prior to firing, or the weapon may fail to fire or produce a serious jam.The rear part of the barrel is enclosed in a short, tubular, barrel jacket with cooling slots,while the front part is fluted. The back of the receiver houses a heavily reinforced bolt buffer, and a special system of two additional buffers are used to soften the movement of the heavy barrel. On infantry guns, the cocking handle is installed on the right side of the weapon, but slots are made on both sides of the receiver for tank installations which may require a left-side cocking handle.

Asgarn machine guns use a disintegrating linked steel belt, with the feed switchable from one side to the other through the re-installation of certain parts in the feed unit. The belt feed is of the two stage type – every cartridge is first withdrawn from the belt toward the rear by the pivoting extractor lever, attached to the bolt. Once the cartridge is clear of the belt, it is lowered into a T-slot cut into the bolt face, and pushed forward into the barrel. Spent cartridge cases are forced down the T-slot and out of the weapon through an opening at the bottom of the receiver by the following cartridges, or by the pivoting belt extractor lever (for the last cartridge case). A rotary switch is used to select the track for left or right side feed.

Since the gun fires from a closed bolt, it has a separate firing pin, powered by its own spring, and hosted inside the bolt along with the sear and cocking lever. Upon the recoil stroke of the bolt, the cocking lever pulls the firing pin back until it is engaged by the sear. Once the bolt is fully in battery (locked closed), a pull on the trigger raises the trigger bar so it acts on the sear and releases the firing pin. The standard firing controls consist of a push-type thumb trigger and sear release buttons located between the dual spade grips. Alternatively, an electric solenoid trigger can be installed for mounted vehicle applications.

The Asgarn has an unusual method of providing semi-automatic fire – it has a bolt latch, which locks the bolt to the bolt buffer in the open position after each shot. Therefore, if gun is fired in semi-automatic mode (single shots), for each shot the operator must first release the bolt forward by pressing the bolt latch release, located next to the thumb trigger (as the gun fires from a closed bolt). After the bolt is released and the gun is loaded, the operator may push the trigger to fire a single bullet. If the automatic mode is desired, the bolt latch must be turned off and locked by turning its lock to the left. In this position it will not engage the bolt and the gun will fire continuously as long as the trigger is pressed. Asgarn heavy machine guns feature, among other items, an additional manual safety located next to the trigger.

Standard sights consist of a Hensoldt Optical Sight with 7.5x augmentation. Optionally,folding blade front and frame-type rear sights can be mounted. In this case the rear sight is mounted on the receiver, the front sight is located at the front of the receiver and protected by an arc-shaped sight protector. Additionally, various types of other telescopic and night sights can be installed using appropriate mountings.

Model Shown With A Fully Adjustable Precision Stock For Long-Range Interdiction.

Also Available With Spade Grips.

Variants:

-Anti-Aircraft Mounted Version

-Truck/Tank Mounted

-Tripod Mounted (On M3 Tripod)

-Helicopter/Transport Craft Deck Gun

General Specifications :

-Caliber: .50BMG (12,7x99mm)

-Weight:

Machinegun Only :29 Kg

Mounted On M3 Tripod :46 Kg

-Length: 1790 mm

-Length of barrel: 1280 mm

-Feeding Mechanism: Linked Belts

-Rate Of Fire: Gas-Plug Adjustable Rate Of Fire 450-650-950 Rounds Per Minute

Price: $2700 USD

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The M.A.C-56|SP

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-Caliber: 7.62mm NATO (.308WIN)

-Action: Gas operated,select-fire

-Barrel lenght: 680 mm

-Weight: 7,13 kg loaded with scope

-Length: 1195 mm

-Magazine: 5,10 or 20 rounds detachable box magazines (100 rounds drums available)

The M.A.C-56|SP is the 7.62NATO (Sniper) accurized variant of the famous M.A.C-56 assault rifle, manufactured by M.A.C Heavy Industries.

The M.A.C-56|SP is a good medium military marksman/sharpshooter rifle or police/antiterror rifle,capable of quick and accurate follow-up shots in either Semi-automatic or Fully Automatic operation (2/3rd burst available).

Price: $12.900USD

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M.A.C Defense SF-9/P

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The SF-9/P is a new PDW development of M.A.C Defense.

The SF-9/P PDW follows the current trend for modularity of design, with intent of providing a compact personal defense weapon of about pistol size but of greater effectiveness for military personnel which is normally not issued with rifle of any kind.It has already been adopted by the Anghele Army,Navy,Air Force and Law Enforcement,and is in use with some Special Forces units abroad.

The SF-9/P is delayed blowback operated weapon that fires in single shots 2 or 3 rounds bursts and in fully automatic mode. It is made mostly from rust and heat resistant metal alloy and impact resistant polymers,with metal alloy upper receiver and a polymer lower receiver. Barrel and bolt can be replaced to change the caliber from standard Armor Piercing 9x19 +P+ to .40 S&W and .357 SIG Armor Piercing Rounds.The change will also require use of different magazines, which, in turn, may require replacement of the grip. The removable grip and the magazine body are made from polymer for easy check of remaining ammunition supply.

The SF-9/P features ambidextrous controls, including safety, fire mode selector, bolt catch release and magazine release. It is fitted with a telescopic buttstock. Sights are installed using integral Picatinny rail on the top of receiver, with standard being either open sights or red dot. Additional Picatinny rail is provided at the bottom of the gun housing, in front of the trigger guard.

Each unit comes with two magazines and cleaning kit.

The Gemtech sound suppressor shown is optional.

-Caliber : 9x19mm Luger / Parabellum, .40 S&W , .357 SIG

-Weight :1.4 Kg

-Length (Stock Closed/Open) : 350 / 500 mm

-Barrel Length :180 mm

-Rate Of Fire : 1100-1300 Rounds Per Minute

-Magazine Capacity : 30 Rounds

-Effective Range :100 Meters


Price : $ 410 USD


M.A.C Military Ordnance .45 ACP Models:

-Fullsize | Suppressed (SD) Model

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Price: $370 USD [SD] Price: $490 USD

-Compact | Suppressed (SD) Model

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Price: $290 USD|[SD] Price: $ 340 USD

-Machine Pistol

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Price: $ 400 USD

-Compensated / Sport Open

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Price: $ 590 USD

-Special Edition Colt Gold Model (With Presentation Case)

Serially Numbered Limited Edition Pistols

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Price: $5500 USD


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For any inquiries please contact us:

Link To Storefront: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=570831&highlight=heavy+industries

M.A.C Direct Line: 21-456-3450

M.A.C@DefenseNet.Agle

Thank you,

M.A.C Heavy Industries Defense Management

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The Chazaka Defense Works wishes to offer the following for consideration.

for your desired pistol we offer theC-1 Pistol (http://z13.invisionfree.com/Chazakain_Storefront/index.php?showtopic=22)
for the armored vehicle we offer the "Statesrights" Armored limo (http://z13.invisionfree.com/Chazakain_Storefront/index.php?showtopic=36&st=0&#last)

about this

Additionally, we would like someone to design and provide a uniform for our school guards. It must remain tactically functional on one hand, but on the other hand, it must not look too aggressive or too paramilitary (no camouflage patterns).

Do you plan on having a certain color/motto for your private army, would you want a one color uniform or multicolored, would this just be for the upper body or would you wish us to design a lower body part too(ie would you like pants with that)?

We hope we can provide something that you can use.
Sincerely
CEO Nyx

To: Demented Schooling Corporation
From: Mondo Advertising, C. of DC
Re: Security Force

For the SMG/carbine and the assault rifle, we recommend Smith Armory (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14335963&postcount=4)'s R-25C carbine and R-25 assault rifle, both chambered with the 6.8x43mm Remington SPC. We also have a specially-designed SWAT package, meant to equip specially-formed police units involved in hostage situations, featuring 5 R-25C carbines for the tactical team, an R-25H semiautomatic rifle for the spotter, and an R-25S sharpshooter rifle for the sharpshooter.

For the security vehicle, we recommend the UV-2313, manufactured by Jacques Tanks (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14335970&postcount=6). It is a bit larger than an SUV - roughly light-truck sized. It has modest armor, and is designed to deal with mines and machine guns.

Also, please examine our full catalog (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=577616) with your needs in mind.

LAIX ARMS

To: Demented Schooling Corporation

In response to your request for weapons for a school security force, LAIX ARMS would like to display our products, that we feel would fill the intended roles that you have laid out.

SMG: SMGY-16 http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5010

Pistol: SiG-P220 (.45 ACP) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sig_P220 (700 standard dollars)

Assault Rifle: LAAR-5 http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=4979

SUV: M-22 Wasp http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=4170

We hope that these weapons and vehicles are chosen to fit your needs. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Signed,

John Bobanov
CEO
LAIX ARMS

Brettonian Military Industries is always pleased to extend a favorably-priced contractual hand to our good friends in the Allanean private sector. We understand that these are trying times, and security is of the utmost concern throughout the world. As one of the top-selling arms manufacturers worldwide, we believe that the merits of The Technology of Peace™ - effectiveness, efficiency, and economy - can speak for themselves.

Our Pistol, Automatic, Model 1989 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13131771&postcount=140) will handily satiate your needs for both a handgun and submachine gun. Robust and compact, the PA-89 offers excellent accuracy and capacity in the semiautomatic mode, and by flipping down the integrated stock, controllability and comfort in the automatic mode. Though only slightly larger and heavier than any number of modern high-capacity handguns, the PA-89 can functionally fulfill any number of roles of a lightweight submachine gun, including the ability to be easily concealed, maneuvered in tight spaces, and carried throughout the day without undue strain. The potent, reliable, and proven 7.62x25 cartridge, available worldwide, offers an essentially flat trajectory and the ability to defeat light body armor while maintaining a low recoil force and adding to the ease of accurate fire. It is standard issue in most branches of the Brettonian Armed Forces and has served both the Army and Air Service well throughout numerous conflicts.

The Rifle, Automatic, Model 1987, Modernized (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13261452&postcount=151) is the standard infantry weapon of the Brettonian Army. Our customers have reported that, among Kalashnikov-derivatives, the RA-87 offers the "most bang for your buck" and goes the extra mile with modern conveniences and features while still avoiding the numerous and documented perils of plastic "fish-guns" and direct gas impingement abominations. The current RA-87M showcases our revolutionary synchronized recoil-canceling BARS - Balanced Automatic Recoil System - that makes use of a simple but effective opposing gas piston that eliminates three-quarters of felt recoil, minimizing vibration and muzzle climb while enabling extremely accurate automatic fire. Modern schools of infantry combat have demonstrably proven the necessity of putting multiple shots on target in a rapid fashion as the key element in halting the threat of an enemy combatant, especially one wearing body armor. Our BARS-equipped RA-87M enables a tried-and-true rifle design to maintain relevancy in today's combat situations. Impact-resistant polymer furniture, a standard folding stock, ergonomic grips and modular accessory mounts round out the available features, and - perhaps most important of all - the RA-87M is backwards-compatible with virtually any Kalashnikov accessory or magazine. Standard chambering is in 7.62x39mm - it is easy to offer a rifle in a new-age proprietary cartridge that can destroy an aircraft carrier from ten miles away, but significantly less so to provide for units in the field that may suffer from disrupted supplies and the resultant multi-thousand-dollar clubs they are now armed with. We have found that the soft-tipped .30-caliber bullet is and remains the quickest way to neutralize an enemy combatant via rifle, but if your contracts would be constrained to the use of non-expansive ammunition, alternatives chamberings are available in most modern intermediate calibers (e.g. 5.45x39, 5.56x45, etc.).

Please see our full-length publications for additional information and pricing. As always, volume pricing is available for large orders, and, as usual, we would be pleased to reduce or eliminate applicable transaction fees for our trusted customers of many years. Please contact with any further questions or clarifications - we are here to help you!

Official Response from the Demented Schooling Corporation

Dear Sir!

This is perfect! You immediately win Contract 3. If it is possible for you to produce the rifles in a short-barreled, folding stock version (a sort of imitation of the AKS-74U, except in this 7.62x39mm caliber you speak of), you will also win Contract 1.

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To: Demented Schooling Corporation

In response to your recent request for an SUV for security use, we would like to offer the ZMW Royale (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=565624). The Royale is available in a number of configurations, including a stretched V8 model capable of carrying seven armed men at speeds as high as 240 km/h. The Royale is available with armoring against high-caliber handguns and below and over 7,400 Royales have already been exported to security agencies worldwide.

The Royale is a luxury vehicle with a price tag to match, but we feel that this is reflective of Demented Schooling's status as the Rolls Royce of education.

Please contact us with any questions you may have..

From: Hans Schmidt, Sales Division, VLT Automotive Group N.V.
To: Demented Schooling Corporation
Subject: RE: Requirement

Dear Sir/Madam,

For your SUV requirement, we would like to submit the VLT L9 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13239785&postcount=14) and VLT L10 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13239787&postcount=15) as possible suitors. Bth automobiles are used extensively by Van Luxemburger law enforcement agencies, amongst others, as well as several private corporations as security vehicles. A combined fleet with models of both types would even further enhance the capabilities of your security teams, with the L9 offering limited terrain capabilities and the L10 offering even more space than the L9, making them ideal to transport armed response teams.

These vehicles are cost-efficient and relatively fast, making them ideal intervention or patrol vehicles for a private corporation, in which cost-efficiency is of course important. Both the L9 and L10 are succesful models, and are reliable machines, coming from the VLT factories, a place where we are proud of the quality we deliver.

Signed,

Hans Schmidt,
Sales Division
VLT Automotive Group N.V.
Esch-sur-Alzette, Van Luxemburg


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VLT Automotive. Won fir die Welt

Van Luxembourg wins Contract 4.

OOC:You asked for something the size of a TMP for the sub machine gun role.No way a Krinkov can be that small without reliability and funciton issues.

My SF-9/P fits better,since it´s and improved MAC 11.

OOC: I said that I would also accept a carbine.