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Celsan Motors Ltd., Astholm's main automotive manufacturer has started exports to NS nations, after exports to other nations started recently.

We can provide you with a list of our vehicles, and customise them to your nations' needs.

Our vehicles are based on a mix of European, Japanese and North American technologies, but have a style and class about them not found in some manufacturers.

Build quality and reliability is excellent, and our prices are great value.

We will post further on our cars in due course.

If you require any variations to our domestic-market specifications then please post here, and we will give you prices in your currency (provide conversions as appropriate).

So far our nation's vehicles are selling great - faster than we predicted.

The Balna Sulgin hatchback, sedan and wagon are the fastest-selling vehicles in our nation - and these are based on the equally fast-selling Celsan Falina hatchback, sedan, coupe and wagon that they are based upon.

Our second biggest-selling car is the Celsan Fulino mid-size car - available as a hatchback, sedan and wagon, it is the best-selling mid-size car around, and the 2.0-litre/134bhp petrol and 2.2-litre/136bhp TDCi turbodiesel models are the best-sellers.

To: Celsan Motors Ltd.
From: Jacques Tanks, C. of DC
Re: investment

We, Jacques Tanks, an arms manufacturer of some note from the Confederacy of Defense Corporations, would like to invest in you. Specifically, we propose an engine factory be built in Astholm, run by (and for) both of us. Jacques Tanks would invest 70% of the money needed for the land purchase and factory construction, and would pay for 35% of factory operations - i.e., we would run and pay for 35% of the factory itself. Any surplus capacity could be leased from us to you for up to 6 months at a time, in exchange for your paying the associated operating costs and a fee derived from the percentage of the factory you would be leasing from us.

To: Celsan Motors Ltd.
From: Jacques Tanks, C. of DC
Re: investment

We, Jacques Tanks, an arms manufacturer of some note from the Confederacy of Defense Corporations, would like to invest in you. Specifically, we propose an engine factory be built in Astholm, run by (and for) both of us. Jacques Tanks would invest 70% of the money needed for the land purchase and factory construction, and would pay for 35% of factory operations - i.e., we would run and pay for 35% of the factory itself. Any surplus capacity could be leased from us to you for up to 6 months at a time, in exchange for your paying the associated operating costs and a fee derived from the percentage of the factory you would be leasing from us.

We will build a new factory, and welcome your investment. However, we would also like to export automobiles to your nation too, in return for your investment.

Negotiations can commence now.

To: Celsan Motors
From: Jacques Tanks
Re: automobile export

I apologize for not explaining this point in advance. Formally speaking, the Confederacy is not a nation; it is an independent consortium of corporations that operate in a variety of rather isolationist countries along the Pacific Rim. We do not wish to risk our power and influence for a business we are mostly uninvolved in, and the Confederacy does include a few local automobile manufacturers - most notably Mitsubishi, which operates automobile factories and runs shipyards for Michael Shipyards in the Tokyo-Yokohama region, and maintains a testing ground in Hokkaido for our own use. Therefore, export to the nations the Confederacy operates in would probably not be permitted by the Confederacy Board, unfortunately.
On a more personal note, we should be able to arrange for you to be a preferred automobile supplier for our own corporate fleet. Dealerships for your automobiles would be established in our company districts in Singapore, Christchurch, and Manila, and would be a 'recommended' choice for employees at those locations, with all that implies. Based on how our own local brands have done, we would expect approximately 30000 automobile purchases and leases annually (23000 in Singapore, 5000 in Manila, 2000 in Christchurch).

OOC - where is your country? Where would our factory be?

Jacques Tanks,
we will supply your corporate fleet, and if you want a list of Celsan vehicles we will give it to you - the latest specifications.

Our country is in Europe, on the River Trent, and is a coastal country.

Here in Astholm our automobile industry has over 40+ brands and we can supply all automobiles internationally.

To: Celsan Motors
From: Jacques Tanks
Re: Corporate fleet

Please provide our human relations division with the details of your automobiles. Further, please provide our legal department with the site you would prefer for our jointly-owned factory.

OOC - TG me with both, though particularly with the latter.

To: Celsan Motors
From: Jacques Tanks
Re: Corporate fleet

Please provide our human relations division with the details of your automobiles. Further, please provide our legal department with the site you would prefer for our jointly-owned factory.

OOC - TG me with both, though particularly with the latter.

Jacques Tanks, here is the range of Celsan automobiles:
Celsan Swyft
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This is the supermini Celsan, which is a rebadged Suzuki Swift. Available as a three- and five-door hatchback and a two-door convertible. It gets 1.0-litre/3-cylinder and 1.3-litre/4-cylinder petrol (Suzuki's engines), plus 1.4-litre/4-cylinder diesel engines (our own). We personalise specifications/trim levels/prices to your market's needs. This is also marketed by General Motors and Suzuki too.
Celsan Falina
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This mid-size hatchback is built on the Opel Astra's platform, and is offered in three- and five-door hatchback, four-door sedan and five-door wagon bodystyles. Engines are 1.4, 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0-litre/4-cylinder petrol or 1.7, 1.9 and 2.0-litre/4-cylinder turbodiesel engines. We personalise specifications/trim levels/prices to your market's needs. This is not a rebadged car, but it shares the same platform.

If you require any further details or would like an extended list, please reply.

Thanks

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OOC - name the site for our factory, please. I'd like to record it so that I can list it where appropriate.

OOC - name the site for our factory, please. I'd like to record it so that I can list it where appropriate.

Eastington, nr. Glazden Brook, Glangarshire is the site we have proposed for your factory. Well situated, it is off the M503 motorway in the valley of the rivers Savern and the Thalmes Brook.

There is space on an industrial estate, off the M503 motorway at Junction 24.

Also, what is your opinion on our (partial) list of automobiles?

To: Celsan Motors
From: Jacques Tanks
Re: Eastington Engine Works

We think that your proposed site should be suitable for both our needs. We will hire an independent architectural company to design a factory, incorporating the design of facilities you use to build your engines into your 65% of the floor and that of our own facilities for our 35%. Naturally, industrial secrets will be preserved as well as possible.

We are launching new automobiles in the Pacific Rim market soon; your corporation's input is welcomed.

Mitsubishi also works with our nation too. However, what is the difference between your corporation's Mitsubishi vehicles and ours?

To: Celsan Motors
From: Jacques Tanks
Re: Eastington Engine Works

We think that your proposed site should be suitable for both our needs. We will hire an independent architectural company to design a factory, incorporating the design of facilities you use to build your engines into your 65% of the floor and that of our own facilities for our 35%. Naturally, industrial secrets will be preserved as well as possible.

Thank you for the reply.
What is your opinion regarding our partial list of automobiles?

We have recently acquired Kulzan-Talzam Motors, who sell Volkswagen, Audi and Skoda products. They will shortly be added to Celsan Motors portfolio.

OOC - We're on a different Pacific Rim from yours: NS =/= RL. Thus, there are multiple 'Mitsubishis' in existence, and ours hasn't worked with Celsan Motors.
As for your cars, Jacques Tanks will sell the Falina at local dealerships. We don't go for rebadged RL vehicles, as we 'have' Suzuki, Mitsubishi, etc. already selling cars.

OOC - We're on a different Pacific Rim from yours: NS =/= RL. Thus, there are multiple 'Mitsubishis' in existence, and ours hasn't worked with Celsan Motors.
As for your cars, Jacques Tanks will sell the Falina at local dealerships. We don't go for rebadged RL vehicles, as we 'have' Suzuki, Mitsubishi, etc. already selling cars.

The Pacific Rim that I implied was the NS one, not RL.

OOC - Out of Character
IC - In Character

The above jargon is explained for you.

OOC - We're on a different Pacific Rim from yours: NS =/= RL. Thus, there are multiple 'Mitsubishis' in existence, and ours hasn't worked with Celsan Motors.
As for your cars, Jacques Tanks will sell the Falina at local dealerships. We don't go for rebadged RL vehicles, as we 'have' Suzuki, Mitsubishi, etc. already selling cars.

The Pacific Rim that I implied was the NS one, not RL.
Negotiations on specifications of the Falina start now.

OOC - same Mitsubishi, then. Sorry for the mix-up. Also, we'll import the Celsan Swyft with Celsan's 1.4L V4 diesel, and would sell all types (hatchback and convertible). As for the Falina, we'll import with 1.4L V4 petrol, 2L V4 petrol, or 2L V4 turbodiesel, and will sell all types.
Sorry for the non-IC post here.

OOC - same Mitsubishi, then. Sorry for the mix-up. Also, we'll import the Celsan Swyft with Celsan's 1.4L V4 diesel, and would sell all types (hatchback and convertible). As for the Falina, we'll import with 1.4L V4 petrol, 2L V4 petrol, or 2L V4 turbodiesel, and will sell all types.
Sorry for the non-IC post here.

OK, I understand now. Sorry for going non-IC for a moment. I'm new to this. :D

Anyway, getting back to the discussion, the Swyft export has been approved, as has the Falina.

Are these the following Swyft models you would like?:

3-door hatchback
5-door hatchback
2-door convertible


only with the 1.4-litre diesel engine (note that the convertible is not available with the diesel engine).

Regarding the Falina, thank you for your interest in the Celsan Falina. The following versions are the ones you want??:

1.4 petrol
2.0 petrol (not turbocharged version)
2.0 diesel


Negotiations regarding specifications, engines and trim levels can begin. This is the first time we have actively traded with any company or nation, and we are new to it, but we'll get there eventually. :tongue:

We also have some information on other automobiles from Celsan should you require it.

Our nation is new to trading with others, and welcomes all the help it can get. :D :tongue:

Celsan Motors launched the Celsan EPL luxury sedan today, at a cost of £32,885.
Available with a GM-sourced 3.2-litre V6 engine, it is in between the BMW 3-Series and 5-Series for size.

A wagon (estate version in Europe) will follow shortly.

We'll take the Swyft hatchbacks with the diesel only. We'll also take those 3 Falina versions you listed, the Celsan EPL luxury sedan with 3.2L V6, and Celsan EPL luxury wagon (when released).

OOC - I'm really new to the auto trade. What do you mean by trim?
Also, see here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=540064); VLT's been in the auto trade for quite a while.

We'll take the Swyft hatchbacks with the diesel only. We'll also take those 3 Falina versions you listed, the Celsan EPL luxury sedan with 3.2L V6, and Celsan EPL luxury wagon (when released).

OOC - I'm really new to the auto trade. What do you mean by trim?
Also, see here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=540064); VLT's been in the auto trade for quite a while.

OOC - with regard to what trim levels are:
In any given market, the same car model may be available in multiple model ranges or trim levels (having the same body style, but different equipment packages.) It is common for any specific car model to carry additional badges or letterings to announce its trim level. For example, the Toyota Camry's trim levels: CE (Classic Edition), LE (Luxury Edition), SE (Sport/Special Edition), XLE (Extra Luxury Edition), and Sportivo (sports model)

Ask VLT if he wants to take part in this thread; he's more than welcome to participate here, in fact anyone is! :D

Celsan Motors have announced plans for building a new SUV based around the platform of the Opel Vectra.

It will be available with 4-cylinder and V6 petrol engines, plus two 4-cylinder diesel and one V6 diesel engines.

Prices and specifications have yet to be announced; but expect it to cost more than the current Celsan Halzfari, which is a rebadged Opel Frontera/Isuzu MU Wizard/Rodeo, which is still available now, despite the design dating back to 1991.

We'll take the Swyft hatchbacks with the diesel only. We'll also take those 3 Falina versions you listed, the Celsan EPL luxury sedan with 3.2L V6, and Celsan EPL luxury wagon (when released).


Thank you for that. With regard to trim levels, there are two ways to go about it:

Letters - e.g. L, LX, GL, GLX, S, SE
Names/words - e.g. Classic, Sport, Executive


However, ask VLT for more info on this, I'm sure he can help you in more detail with this than me!

Thanks,
Astholm Automotive Ministry

As regards the Celsan Falina, the following engines will not be available for your countries??:

1.6 petrol
1.8 petrol
1.7 diesel
1.7 turbodiesel
1.9 turbodiesel (GM and Fiat-sourced)
1.9 turbodiesel 130bhp - Peugeot engine


This is in the interests of record-keeping

Thanks,
Astholm Automotive Ministry

Celsan Motors have another announcement: we will give anyone who trades with us a 20% discount off all automobiles.

Astholm's motor vehicle spokesperson James Taylor has said he will explain about Astholm's automotive industry to anyone who wants it.

PS: OOC: Telegram me via the jennifergovernment nationstates site if I'm not here.

As regards the Celsan Falina, the following engines will not be available for your countries??:

1.6 petrol
1.8 petrol
1.7 diesel
1.7 turbodiesel
1.9 turbodiesel (GM and Fiat-sourced)
1.9 turbodiesel 130bhp - Peugeot engine


This is in the interests of record-keeping

Thanks,
Astholm Automotive Ministry

Upon reflection, we'll take the Falina with all of those engines as well. We'll also take your new SUV, when it comes out.
For all vehicles, all trim options will be available, and identified by letters.

Upon reflection, we'll take the Falina with all of those engines as well. We'll also take your new SUV, when it comes out.
For all vehicles, all trim options will be available, and identified by letters.

OK, all engines will be offered. We can negotiate trim level schemes, with the help of VLT and any other automotive experts here.

As for the new SUV, your nation(s) will be the first markets outside of Astholm to receive it, although we will sell it under the Chevrolet brand there as well.

Please give us information on your countries' trading conditions for automobiles and we will begin negotiations regarding distribution of automobiles there.

We'd sell the automobiles from local dealerships owned through subsidiaries by members of the Confederacy of Defense Corporations. We'd simply set up new dealerships for your cars, and would brand them as Celsan. We would also prefer that you brand the new SUV as Celsan.
The automobile trade within the Confederacy proper is fairly diverse; no company really dominates, largely thanks to the Confederacy. Employees of Confederacy members are strongly encouraged to buy from preferred dealers, which have special arrangements with individual member companies. For instance, Michael Shipyards employees buy from Mitsubishi, Proton or Nissan, because Michael Shipyards' preferred credit unions (the only ones that will accept Michael Shipyards employees' pay) will only provide loans for Mitsubishi, Proton or Nissan cars.

We'd sell the automobiles from local dealerships owned through subsidiaries by members of the Confederacy of Defense Corporations. We'd simply set up new dealerships for your cars, and would brand them as Celsan. We would also prefer that you brand the new SUV as Celsan.
The automobile trade within the Confederacy proper is fairly diverse; no company really dominates, largely thanks to the Confederacy. Employees of Confederacy members are strongly encouraged to buy from preferred dealers, which have special arrangements with individual member companies. For instance, Michael Shipyards employees buy from Mitsubishi, Proton or Nissan, because Michael Shipyards' preferred credit unions (the only ones that will accept Michael Shipyards employees' pay) will only provide loans for Mitsubishi, Proton or Nissan cars.

Celsan automobiles will be offered.

We also supply Chrysler and Dodge-badged versions of Mitsubishis which Celsan has marketed for some time here.

These are about £1,000 ($1,523.39) less than their Mitsubishi equivalent. The Dodge versions are about £800 ($1,218.71) less than the Mitsubishi model. Our nation has sold these successfully; the Chrysler Summit is a rebadged Mitsubishi Lancer, and sells equally as well as it; same for the Dodge Galanxa; a rebranded Mitsubishi Galant with Dodge badges and a more sporting edge.

The SUV will be offered under the Celsan name, but the Chevrolet version is also available for other markets too.

Celsan Motors have developed a sports sedan for your market. Details soon...

We strongly wish to sell all your products under Celsan brand.
Unfortunately, Mitsubishi would be highly unwilling to tolerate our offering rebranded Mitsubishis.

To: Celsan Motors
From: The Great People's Republic of Falkasia
Having seen the recent sales boom occuring within the specturm of your company's business, our great nation feels that it would be in both of our best interests to inquire about the possibility if purchasing stock from you. Furthermore, being one of the larger countries in the world and comprising roughly of over 1 billion people, there is obviously a sigificantly large consumer market, and we're alsways having difficulty catering to the needs of such a large population. Therefore, we wish to inquire about the possibility of constructing Celsan Factories and Dealerships on Falkasian soil. Finally, we would like to ask whether you'd be interested in possibly merging with the Universal Defense Corporation, one of the world's largest and most prosperous multi-product conglomerate companies. Please, tell us what you think.

Signed,
Vladimir Kazyenko
Prime Minister, Falkasia

To: Celsan Motors
From: The Great People's Republic of Falkasia
Having seen the recent sales boom occuring within the specturm of your company's business, our great nation feels that it would be in both of our best interests to inquire about the possibility if purchasing stock from you. Furthermore, being one of the larger countries in the world and comprising roughly of over 1 billion people, there is obviously a sigificantly large consumer market, and we're alsways having difficulty catering to the needs of such a large population. Therefore, we wish to inquire about the possibility of constructing Celsan Factories and Dealerships on Falkasian soil. Finally, we would like to ask whether you'd be interested in possibly merging with the Universal Defense Corporation, one of the world's largest and most prosperous multi-product conglomerate companies. Please, tell us what you think.

Signed,
Vladimir Kazyenko
Prime Minister, Falkasia

We thank you for your interest in our vehicles, and welcome the opportunity to build a new factory in Falkasia. However, we do not merge with any other business; but we work with them instead.

Thanks

Celsan Motors have invested £500,000 in a new research and development centre in Lawston, near Glabingston, Scotwick.

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