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Post-Apocalyptic RP (OOC Interest, Sign Up)

Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 16:28
Well I'm back at school and I need something to keep myself entertained on the long nights when I'm locked in....

So, I was thinking maybe I should retry an idea I had a while ago, it worked until it died from lack of interest and OOC difficulties so I'm gonna put some ground rules down this way. Basically this is an idea similar to that of the book (Or Films), The Postman or The Stand, also I will make Fallout 3 references, but it is not as severe. But it is a nuclear war which destroys all major industrial, administrative and military hubs. This would be somewhere like 16 to 40 years after the bombs dropped. People have survived the nuclear winter and have forged small groups of survivalists. Settlements of a few hundred people each. They have basic weapons, and few of them. They are hungry and completely lacking in technology. The car is now useless due to the unkempt nature of roads, the complete lack of fuel and the EMP given off by the nuclear blasts. The EMP destroyed most electrical technology and almost all other technology was dropped and abandoned. Now the children of the new world have to forge their destinies but who knows how it will go.

I'm thinking decaying MT, if a Modern tech level at all, horses and carts for transport. No pre war military groups. Certainly militant groups but not pre-war groups. No mutants please. Keep it... realistic. This should be about post-apocalyptic survival rather than total war but if you need to dominate everyone to survive so be it. I don't want to ask for RP samples but I would prefer it if you weren't a beginner. Dedicated RPers only please.

IC thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14391651)

Suggestions, changes all welcome.

Current Interest
Whiskeasy
Isira
Kagetora
Ustio North
Bushdome

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3732/whiskeasy2tk21wi2.png
Isira
10-01-2009, 16:31
I'll join as Ehud Hassan. Yes, on these forums I'm quite new, but I've played hundreds of online nation simulations and several character simulations rather like this one, so really, I know how to roleplay and be realistic.
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 16:35
Well great! You look pretty professional so it seems good. This is just the interest thread. I might make a new Forum for this if there is enough interest. It is what I did last time, or Stok did anyway...
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 19:16
Bump
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 20:59
This seems interesting. I'll join.
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 21:13
Kay. Any suggestions or amendments?
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 21:23
Are we doing this as a colony rp or a character rp?
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 21:26
Well, both if you want. You can be a colony and have a character as well or just a character.
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 21:27
OK, are we using the real world map or an imaginary one?
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 21:30
Hmm, I don't know where we will do it. Last time we did El Paso and surrounding areas which was a good idea. However we could do somewhere else. We could go Oregon like the Postman or someone not in America at all.
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 21:32
Well I live in WA(shington state)...

and about tech, are we only allowed weapons that exist?
Ustio North
10-01-2009, 21:33
The car is now useless due to the unkempt nature of roads, the complete lack of fuel and the EMP given off by the nuclear blasts.

I'm thinking decaying MT, if a Modern tech level at all, horses and carts for transport.

Not to rain on your parade here, as I quite like the look of this sort of RP, but if this is MT, I doubt that we'd have to revert back to horses and carts. It could be possible for the survivors to have scavenged parts and made some sort of rudimentary transport, though I was thinking more along the lines of the cannabilised muscle car (http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Muscle_Car) from Half Life 2: Episode 2 rather than the VB-02 Vertibirds (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/VB-02_Vertibird) used by the Enclave in Fallout 3. And, since if we take into account the level of radiation in Fallout after 200 years, wouldn't radiation still be quite severe.

But sounds good, so I will join. Oh, also, where would this be set? I suppose you could say that it affected the entire NS world, cancelling out the need for nations borders and such.
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 21:35
Actually, if it a real nuclear war, the nuclear fallout and radiation would probably be mooted in 40-60 years. 20-40 probably still some pockets of extreme radiation left, but for the most part safe
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 21:39
Kagetora;14384899']Well I live in WA(shington state)...

and about tech, are we only allowed weapons that exist?

Well lets see what other people think. And no, you may have handmade weapons like on fallout but that is it.

Ustio, Well I'm trying to not have any cars. Or if you do, just one. Fuel would be gone for sure. And NS is too large of a world. Let's use RL. Stick to areas that would not have been bombed, mainly rural areas. I don't know where do you think we should go?
Bushdome
10-01-2009, 21:42
Im very interested in joining in with this rp
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 21:44
Just going on that one sentence introduction, I'm gonna have to ask do you think you are a sufficient enough RPer?
Bushdome
10-01-2009, 21:53
Yeah, ive RP'ed before on these forums, the RPs have been character based, ive RP on MMO's and i use to play alot of DnD :)
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 21:56
Can I see an RP sample please?
Ustio North
10-01-2009, 21:57
And NS is too large of a world. Let's use RL. Stick to areas that would not have been bombed, mainly rural areas. I don't know where do you think we should go?

Well, unless you plan to make it an offsite rp, don't bother mentioning RL places. The Mods will shut it down the instant they get wind of it, trust me, we had that problem with the Heroes RP.

As far as an NS rp is concerned, it doesn't have to be set in every NS nation involved, but in the NS world itself. It could be the ruins of Ustio, Whiskeasy or wherever, and references could be made to other nations that have been wiped out in the apocalypse. Obviously, it would be non-canon.

That's my suggestion.
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 21:59
I know all that, but thanks any way! The last one was offsite and I could make another site. It just helps because then there are ready made maps.
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 22:03
Well whatever we do, we'd need a backstory, and I'd be more than willing to say my nation was the main instigator of the war
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 22:06
Hmm, maybe we should do NS. Maybe me and you can have a nuclear war. And the survivors can live in whatever nation has the most detailed maps?
Bushdome
10-01-2009, 22:07
RP sample? what sort of thing you after? and i'm not being funny but why all of these rp checks on me?
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 22:08
OK, but are we to assume that only the nations that are part of the rp exist in our world?

That works. In offsite rps, I've done this plenty of times (of course, we also time-traveled in one of them to stop the war, but that's another story)
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 22:10
RP sample? what sort of thing you after? and i'm not being funny but why all of these rp checks on me?

He checks out find according to me. I see a lot of stuff about a spa (unusual) but I see enough other roleplays, the most notable of which (recently) was Baptism of Fire
Chazakain
10-01-2009, 22:11
RP sample? what sort of thing you after? and i'm not being funny but why all of these rp checks on me?

probably because of your name
*hides*
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 22:11
Sorry, lack of capital letters, and before this post very little punctuation. And by an RP sample I mean just a your best post or something like that. I know U.N and I did a check on Kagetora.
Ustio North
10-01-2009, 22:14
I know all that, but thanks any way! The last one was offsite and I could make another site. It just helps because then there are ready made maps.

Well, excuse me if I don't join, but I can't be bothered with offsite RPs these days. I'll join if it's on NS.

Besides, I have a map. Although detailed maps would be rather useless, as most roads would have been destroyed.
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 22:16
UN do you have a good map? If so we can do it in your nation after the nuclear holocaust. We could use mine but I don't know. Factbook with map (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=574429).
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 22:17
Can we see the map?
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 22:18
UN do you have a good map? If so we can do it in your nation after the nuclear holocaust. We could use mine but I don't know. Factbook with map (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=574429).

Is that forest or mountains in the south?
Bushdome
10-01-2009, 22:18
Kagetora;14385024']He checks out find according to me. I see a lot of stuff about a spa (unusual) but I see enough other roleplays, the most notable of which (recently) was Baptism of Fire

Kagetora has checked out my RP stuff, or do i still need to provide a sample?

Sorry about the lack of capital letters and punctuation, from this point in I will put in capital letters and what not where needed. So can i join?? :)
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 22:19
Meh, why not just keep it good and stay active
Bushdome
10-01-2009, 22:19
Thank you!
Ustio North
10-01-2009, 22:22
UN do you have a good map? If so we can do it in your nation after the nuclear holocaust. We could use mine but I don't know. Factbook with map (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=574429).

Well, since I'm rubbish with Paint and all those image editing programs, my map was based off a map of the UK, replaced with my cities and important areas. Whisk, your map is much more detailed than mine.
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 22:24
Are those mountains or a forest in the south?
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 22:24
Fine, we'll use Whiskeasy. I just think that this might be too big for a single thread.
EDIT
Mountains
[NS]Kagetora
10-01-2009, 22:27
Alright, Whiskeasy it is then.
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 22:42
Map:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1405/whiskeasy2tk2pw5.png
Whiskeasy
10-01-2009, 23:52
Bump
Fighter4u
11-01-2009, 00:09
Well I'm back at school and I need something to keep myself entertained on the long nights when I'm locked in....


*Cough,cough*


*Growls*
Whiskeasy
11-01-2009, 00:10
In my defense I wrote that up four days ago.
Whiskeasy
11-01-2009, 02:12
bump
Whiskeasy
11-01-2009, 11:22
Bump
Whiskeasy
11-01-2009, 17:41
Bump
101st paratroopers
11-01-2009, 17:43
I'll join.
Tanara
11-01-2009, 20:27
Might be interesting. I'd be playing a single character, maybe a pair rather than a group/ colony. Have you decided how far after the nuclear war this would be?

And while emp might have fried civilian electronics, it would not have gotten the vast majority of military equipemnt.
[NS]Kagetora
11-01-2009, 20:32
He said 14-40 years later I think
Whiskeasy
11-01-2009, 20:35
Umm, 101st I'm don't think you are a sufficient enough RPer for this. Sorry.

Tanara, that's fine. But if it wasn't fried by EMP we can assume that it would have been abandoned or nobody would know how to work it anymore. That is to say that it is Military computers and stuff. Yeah 14-40 years.
Kargucagstan
11-01-2009, 20:49
I'm interested, but I have a few questions. First of all, what kind of terrain are we going to be dealing with? In other words, was this a more "Hollywood" style apocalypse with nuclear winter and snow, lots of irradiated desert, etc? Or was this a more realistic apocalypse, with basically Chernobyl terrain? What was the countryside like on that map before the bombs fell? Is there an IC thread yet, and is this the OOC thread? What kind of information would you like our characters to have? I'd be doing like Tanara and just RPing one character, not a colony, but what are the other player's plans? What kind of techbase does the region have pre-war? That would effect what kind of weapons would be available. For example, if the country used American/NATO technology it might be hard to find an AK-47.

I've a few ideas for characters, if anyone is still trying to think of something to RP. In such a world as this there would likely be regular survivors, people who are just like today but a bit more toughened. Lots of ex-military people wandering around. There would be slavers, too, which I would certainly be interested in RPing. No doubt some ex-military types would stumble upon radiation suits and use them to loot irradiated cities. Some might even loot without the suits, if they're desperate enough.
Ustio North
11-01-2009, 21:06
Umm, 101st I'm don't think you are a sufficient enough RPer for this. Sorry.

Tanara, that's fine. But if it wasn't fried by EMP we can assume that it would have been abandoned or nobody would know how to work it anymore. That is to say that it is Military computers and stuff. Yeah 14-40 years.

True. The muscle car idea also got me thinking: most weapons would be cannibalised in order to keep them in working condition, so it may be interesting to see what sort of weapons emerge through makeshift repair jobs.

By the way, would it be alright if my characters entered from the shore (by row boat if neccessary), as if they came from another land? (After reading your factbook, this isn't that far-fetched. If Whiskeasy is somewhere near Portugal in RL, then that means that Ustio is only a few hundred miles north, as it would be situated in the general area of where the UK is).
Whiskeasy
11-01-2009, 21:26
I'm interested, but I have a few questions. First of all, what kind of terrain are we going to be dealing with? In other words, was this a more "Hollywood" style apocalypse with nuclear winter and snow, lots of irradiated desert, etc? Or was this a more realistic apocalypse, with basically Chernobyl terrain? What was the countryside like on that map before the bombs fell? Is there an IC thread yet, and is this the OOC thread? What kind of information would you like our characters to have? I'd be doing like Tanara and just RPing one character, not a colony, but what are the other player's plans? What kind of techbase does the region have pre-war? That would effect what kind of weapons would be available. For example, if the country used American/NATO technology it might be hard to find an AK-47.

I've a few ideas for characters, if anyone is still trying to think of something to RP. In such a world as this there would likely be regular survivors, people who are just like today but a bit more toughened. Lots of ex-military people wandering around. There would be slavers, too, which I would certainly be interested in RPing. No doubt some ex-military types would stumble upon radiation suits and use them to loot irradiated cities. Some might even loot without the suits, if they're desperate enough.

I'm going to be a small town in the countryside somewhere. Haven't decided where yet. It just means I can have all sorts of Characters.
Well my semi-made Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=574429) should help you with most of your questions. It will be realistic kind of climate like Chernobyl but probably colder. Like Scotland or Northern Ireland in deep winter. There is only an OOC Interest thread at the moment. I'm not sure if we can do all of this in one thread, it seems too large.

UN, yes that should be fine.

A concern at the moment is whether to do this of II or make a forum for it. Discuss.
[NS]Kagetora
11-01-2009, 21:59
Oh yeah, my plan was a raiding organization, preying on the weak survivor colonies.
Ustio North
11-01-2009, 22:09
Kagetora;14388471']Oh yeah, my plan was a raiding organization, preying on the weak survivor colonies.

You public menace!

I was planning on having a couple of characters who have been travelling what is left of the world, eventually leading them to what is left of Whiskeasy. I was probably most influenced by the opening sequence of Doctor Who: Last Of The Time Lords, which I watched last night.
[NS]Kagetora
11-01-2009, 22:10
Oh noes! I'm out to destroy the settlements.

All your base are belong to me!
Whiskeasy
11-01-2009, 23:08
Well, I'm a little town. But not really weak.
[NS]Kagetora
11-01-2009, 23:10
Refer to

All your base are belong to me!
Tanaara
11-01-2009, 23:11
I'd be playing a wanderer - and 14 to 40 years is quite a time spread. If this is 40 years later those with pre war knowledge and training are going to not real be viable as player characters ( Doctors, lawers, police,) If it is 14 years later a fully trained doctor etc is possible ( unless you have had centers of higher learning survive )
Charzak
11-01-2009, 23:11
can i still join
North Calaveras
11-01-2009, 23:24
Whiskeasy your remaking that one rp I was in?
Chazakain
11-01-2009, 23:48
Whiskeasy your remaking that one rp I was in?

sure sounds like it doesn't it?
Zainzibar Land
12-01-2009, 00:03
I'll join, will this be on or offsite
Kargucagstan
12-01-2009, 02:25
Well my semi-made Factbook should help you with most of your questions

Ah, okay, so a mix of American/NATO and NS tech, eh? Sure, that will work.

A concern at the moment is whether to do this of II or make a forum for it. Discuss.

Since this is set in a fictional area of the world, I don’t see a reason to further clog the interwebs with superfluous forums. NS RPs tend to be easier to keep active and full of people, and encourages new members to join. My vote is for on-forum.

Tanaara raises a good point. What time is this set in, exactly? When did the bombs drop? That would also affect the levels of radiation we have to deal with, since the half-life of some isotopes is only 30-40 years, so it would really be clearing up. Regardless, though, the nuclear fallout would be mostly concentrated in the tissue of plants and animals, as well as water molecules and especially the soil. So, farmers and those that drink a lot of water would likely have drastically shorter lives.

I’m definitely going to play a single slaver. Makes a living by enslaving survivors and selling them at the various small towns on the map. Since a unified currency system is unlikely in such a post-apocalyptic scenario, a bartering system would probably be used for payment and exchange among survivors.

Whiskeasy, when are you going to start the IC thread? The longer you wait the fewer people will stay interested, in my experience.
Mer des Ennuis
12-01-2009, 07:29
Okay, Kargucagstan asked me to join this (not directly, but he knows what I mean). Having read a lot of post-apocolyptic fiction over the summer, I feel ready for this. Depending on how much time has past, I'd like to have my lone character be the sole survivor of the crew of a nuclear submarine that had spent several years drifting aimlessly, looking for survivors.

Might I also suggest using a Cormac McCarthy "The Road" style apocalypse, where it isn't obvious what caused such wanton destruction, nor even necessary?
Catawaba
12-01-2009, 07:48
I've been a fan of post-apocalyptic fiction, well at least well done forms of it, for a long time. Read the Postman, after watching the movie, love the Dies the Fire series by S. M. Stirling, and World War Z, which rates as a survival fiction book in the guise of a zombie apocalypse because of its thoroughness.

I'd really like the opportunity to get in on an active Post-Apocalyptic RP. As for my character, I suppose I'd like to know a bit more about the situation before I create a character, so I can fit the character a bit closer to the situation.

If asked to give a general sketch, I think travelling sell-sword...bow...gun...whatever the availible and best form of technological weapon the character an employ....ooooh. If it's a longer period, say forty years? Could we RP a small group, a band? By forty years you have long enough to start seeing REAL cultural groups start to form.

I'm an anthropological archeologist major, the part about post-apocalyptic fiction that interests me when its done well is how new culture groups form and how old ones adapt to the drastic change.

Examples of RPing:

A bit of humor...and what earned my "Unofficial NS Terry Prachett Award for Most Humorous Existence" (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13417714&postcount=39)

My most lengthy post, and perhaps one of my favorites (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14243115&postcount=392)
And Part Duex to that long post above because I discovered exactly how many characters can be in a single post. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14243118&postcount=393)
[NS]Kagetora
12-01-2009, 07:51
@Catawaba: Yes we can do groups.

For that matter, I'm gonna do a raider group.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO ME!
Wandering Argonians
12-01-2009, 07:53
I've been playing the 'Fallout' series almost religiously since it came out way back when. I'd like to take a crack at this but would like some more info. What I've read so far hasn't told me much, considering you're still hammering out the timeline...
Catawaba
12-01-2009, 08:12
.....Kage...I feel more and more that my group might be very righteous...quite righteous and anti-raider for nothing more than to expunge them for your use of All Your Base lines...


Just kidding.
Kargucagstan
12-01-2009, 08:20
Ah, thank you Mer! Pleased that you could commit. Your character sounds pretty interesting, and would his last name be “Shin,” by any chance…?

Like has been stated, you can easily play a group. I believe several other members of the thread intend to. It would be quite fun if you did, in fact, roleplay as a righteous order or something. Would give my slaver something to run from.

This thread has already paid off for me, since it has led me to Wiki "The Postman" and "The Road," both of which have been described as the best book in the last 25 years, so I figure they might be worth reading.
Whiskeasy
12-01-2009, 12:21
Well, lets go for on Forum but I think this may be to big for too big for one thread. Maybe two will be needed. One for each side of the country maybe.

Screw it. Anyone who wants in, might as well join. Just try and stay active.

Lets say 40 years after the nuclear war. I will do a proper background and intro thread tonight (GMT) as I'm currently in the middle of doing exams. I will make timeline, edit the map and if people start telling me where they want their claims I can start on that.
Ustio North
12-01-2009, 12:22
This thread has already paid off for me, since it has led me to Wiki "The Postman" and "The Road," both of which have been described as the best book in the last 25 years, so I figure they might be worth reading.

Indeed. I've been looking up Children Of The Dust, a book I partially studied in school but never got a chance to read properly. I have also been playing Fallout 3 since the day it came out.

as I'm currently in the middle of doing exams.

Sucks, doesn't it?
Imperial isa
12-01-2009, 12:34
I have also been playing Fallout 3 since the day it came out.

what the highest level you got for your Characters ?
Ustio North
12-01-2009, 12:36
what the highest level you got for your Characters ?

Well, since i'm playing on PS3 I can only get to level 20, but i've played through it about seven times and some games I just don't bother completing, just wandering the ruins finding all the locations. But that's off-topic.

...

(Autumns' Coat FTW)
Imperial isa
12-01-2009, 13:12
Well, since i'm playing on PS3 I can only get to level 20, but i've played through it about seven times and some games I just don't bother completing, just wandering the ruins finding all the locations. But that's off-topic.

...

(Autumns' Coat FTW)

20 is the highest for all yet on one of the load screens, it show 21 on the bar

oh i too just wandering the ruins along with the dog, Star Paldin Cross and Fawkes at my back

oh Whiskeasy what small arms ammo does you nation use ,so we know what guns we can say we can find
Whiskeasy
12-01-2009, 13:55
Yes this exams really suck. I have five today.... ICT, Latin, Chemistry, Biology and English Language.

See the Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=574429). As well as that, you will find hunting rifles and shotguns. As well as old NATO and British weaponry. And I also play Fallout 3. Great game.
Imperial isa
12-01-2009, 14:14
Yes this exams really suck. I have five today.... ICT, Latin, Chemistry, Biology and English Language.

See the Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=574429). As well as that, you will find hunting rifles and shotguns. As well as old NATO and British weaponry. And I also play Fallout 3. Great game.

thanks if i join i don't have to worry about picking a weapon you can't find ammo for


as for Fallout 3 yes it's a great game,but i wise the Caravan Merchants were made so they don't die,i'am down to one and they have the most caps and repair skill it's hard to find him when i need him :(
Ustio North
12-01-2009, 14:31
Yes this exams really suck. I have five today.... ICT, Latin, Chemistry, Biology and English Language.

See the Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=574429). As well as that, you will find hunting rifles and shotguns. As well as old NATO and British weaponry. And I also play Fallout 3. Great game.

Ouch, that's a lot of exams in one day. I guess I should count myself lucky - I have three over the course of three days - A politics re-sit, sociology and this year's politics module.

As for weapons, mine would probably come from all over the place, since they're travellers, although it'll most likely be scavenged from old military installations and arms manufacturers, since there are no (legal) gun shops in Ustio.
Wandering Argonians
12-01-2009, 19:13
I'm a little confused here. Is this set in a specific nation or is the scope more broad?
Ustio North
12-01-2009, 19:35
I'm a little confused here. Is this set in a specific nation or is the scope more broad?

I think Whiskeasy said he was going to set it in his nation, though I asked him if my characters could have come from abroad, so I may have suggested that since it is Post-Apocalyptic, it could have affected all nations. My bad.

Whisk, I suppose you could say, as it is non-canon, that it is what could have been the outcome of the Stoko-GWO war?
Wandering Argonians
12-01-2009, 19:49
So in terms of old NATO equipment we can expect to find FAL's, G3A3's, and the like? I'm guessing we'd get ammunition and the weapons themselves from old National Guard-type armories. I'm also guessing hunting rifles and shotguns are going to be of the standard variety and nothing special in terms of who made the things. (Remington, Mossberg, Browning, Blaser, etc.)

In terms of old British weaponry, how old? SMLE Enfield old or the more recent L85A4-type stuff?

Is your military's SIG in 9x19mm, .40 S&W, or .357 SIG? Are gun laws fairly loose or restrictive?
Wandering Argonians
12-01-2009, 19:55
I think Whiskeasy said he was going to set it in his nation, though I asked him if my characters could have come from abroad, so I may have suggested that since it is Post-Apocalyptic, it could have affected all nations.

Whisk, I suppose you could say, as it is non-canon, that it is what could have been the outcome of the Stoko-GWO war?

Alrighty then. Working up a character idea, needed a place of origin. If he comes from abroad starting equipment choices could be more diverse. I'd have to eventually switch to something different after he ran out of ammo.
Mer des Ennuis
12-01-2009, 20:14
I'm more concerned about...

- How much time has past since world wide apocalypse?
- What gun culture/laws were before the apocalypse
- Actual cause of apocalypse, and what the terrain is now like (i.e. radioactive?)
Wandering Argonians
12-01-2009, 20:33
Right now I think we're looking at forty years after a nuclear holocaust, which means radiation would be an issue. Isn't my show so it might not.

Still waiting on a response for the gun laws, though. Terrain would probably be similar to the original terrain, but barren and dead. Wouldn't be much wildlife left either, come to think of it.

The current character group I've got worked up is a few guys, former Argonian National Army Special Forces A-Team members who have struck out on their own after nuclear war destroyed the homeland. They'd be working with salvaged gear and weaponry, however. At most four personnel, maybe as few as two. Low-key just-passing-through sort of guys with no lofty goals of wasteland domination, just looking to get by.

I picked this demographic because they'd all know each other well, are well-trained to survive without direct support, and would know a lot about land navigation and foreign equipment (radios, weapons, vehicles, etc). They have no ties to the actual Argonian National Army or any military organization at all for that matter. A simple group of well-trained friends looking to stay alive for as long as possible.
Whiskeasy
12-01-2009, 21:28
Well number of things. Yes good idea about GWO-Stok war UN I will do that. By "Old" I mean British weapons currently in service. Gun laws were quite tight, hard to get pistols and automatic weapons. However in the country and small towns most people have some form of shot gun or Rifle. But you have to remember the size of the army it was nearly 10,000,000 men so there were plenty of weapons including the surplus. The areas around the nuked towns (Sea map) are pretty desolate and radioactive but everywhere else is coming back. After 40 years the majority of the radiation would have disappeared from around the countryside. (Look at Hiroshima for an example of how fast it disappears) Wildlife would be in massive abundance towards the south and would get less and less as you got closer to the radioactive areas.
Whiskeasy
12-01-2009, 21:50
Intro up.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14391651
Ustio North
12-01-2009, 21:52
Well number of things. Yes good idea about GWO-Stok war UN I will do that. By "Old" I mean British weapons currently in service. Gun laws were quite tight, hard to get pistols and automatic weapons. However in the country and small towns most people have some form of shot gun or Rifle. But you have to remember the size of the army it was nearly 10,000,000 men so there were plenty of weapons including the surplus. The areas around the nuked towns (Sea map) are pretty desolate and radioactive but everywhere else is coming back. After 40 years the majority of the radiation would have disappeared from around the countryside. (Look at Hiroshima for an example of how fast it disappears) Wildlife would be in massive abundance towards the south and would get less and less as you got closer to the radioactive areas.

Yes, although it would depend on how many nuclear attacks a city had endured. Keeping in mind that, compared with modern standards, the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs used a tiny portion of radioactive material. That, coupled with the fact that multiple missiles/bombs may have hit a single area, may mean that the radiation has a tendency to linger longer than if a single BigBoy had hit the area.
Whiskeasy
12-01-2009, 21:57
Yeah a true but I think for the sake of the RP I kinda want just a normal area. I want a rebuilding of the world kind of thing, Just with limited tools. Also start your claiming if you want a settlement. Mine will be up soon.
Catawaba
12-01-2009, 22:27
I don't look to have a settlement, just a pand of migrant wanderers. Would there be any terrain praire or steppes to encourage a horse culture in Whiskeasy?

Also, considering that you had a 10million member army and what looks like five or your largest metro areas were either direclty bombed or irradiated...what's the probability that those weapon stockpiles are even availible or that ammunition civilian and governmental is still present? Considering use and scavenging during the past twenty years.
Ustio North
12-01-2009, 22:35
Yeah a true but I think for the sake of the RP I kinda want just a normal area. I want a rebuilding of the world kind of thing, Just with limited tools. Also start your claiming if you want a settlement. Mine will be up soon.

Aye, i'm with Cat on this. Just two friends, wandering the lands.
Whiskeasy
12-01-2009, 22:44
Well, the weapons are there, ammunition is around but it will be running low, maybe somebody has their own gunsmith who knows, maybe you are. Yes it is rolling hills, woods and plains. So Horses are definitely around. I'm using them. Also if anyone wants someone to RP with I would happily RP one or two.
Mer des Ennuis
12-01-2009, 22:47
I'm pretty sure unadulterated nuclear fallout would have killed most animals; where food would be whatever canned goods managed to survive that long... plants and soil would be heavily contaminated.
Whiskeasy
12-01-2009, 22:55
Well for the sake of the RP just go with it... I know it's a little rough around the edges but it sucks living in a world where you should be dead. There are no guns and all the animals are gone.
Catawaba
12-01-2009, 23:03
How about a neutron bomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb)? Lots of killing, 12 year half-life, theoretically smaller kiloton measure yields.

And then there's always...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v35/jedierrant/handwavium.gif
Whiskeasy
12-01-2009, 23:07
Yeah fine they were all neutron bombs...
Lord Sumguy
12-01-2009, 23:12
Alright, I'll be RPing, if acceptable, a large rural town known as New Antioch in between Kilhoman and Grouse. It would be run by AL missionaries (and soldiers) that were sent to Whiskeasy following the aftermath of the exchange that destroyed most of the nation to provide humanitarian aid and help restore order, when contact was lost with the Sumguaian homeland.

are there any size restraints on settlement size? I was thinking of making the population of mine number at a few thousand, with outlying villages and outposts.
Mer des Ennuis
12-01-2009, 23:14
Allright, then I'll send a team in, as my nation would have been neutral and mostly untouched... unless neutron bombs have large amounts of fallout sometime (I could have sworn we were going for a desolate nuclear wasteland, akin to the fallout series, the road, etc.)
Whiskeasy
12-01-2009, 23:19
Hmm, Well Mer I was kind of going with the everyone is dead feel. No outside support, like complete nuclear holocaust. LS I will put your claim up soon. Also it is forty years after the war so they are gonna be old people by now.
Lord Sumguy
12-01-2009, 23:21
Hmm, Well Mer I was kind of going with the everyone is dead feel. No outside support, like complete nuclear holocaust. LS I will put your claim up soon. Also it is forty years after the war so they are gonna be old people by now.

yeah, i meant them and their children, who are also kinda carrying on the organization, as well as any whiskeasians who had been with them when it all happened or had joined the settlement over the years.
Ustio North
12-01-2009, 23:28
Alright, I'll be RPing, if acceptable, a large rural town known as New Antioch in between Kilhoman and Grouse. It would be run by AL missionaries (and soldiers) that were sent to Whiskeasy following the aftermath of the exchange that destroyed most of the nation to provide humanitarian aid and help restore order, when contact was lost with the Sumguaian homeland.

are there any size restraints on settlement size? I was thinking of making the population of mine number at a few thousand, with outlying villages and outposts.

Hmm, reminds me partially of the Chinese Remnant Army from Fallout 3
Whiskeasy
12-01-2009, 23:42
Ohh and LS can it be a couple of hundred rather than a couple thousand? Mine is large for 350. Maybe 300 - 500? But you would be having supply problems though.
Mer des Ennuis
13-01-2009, 00:08
Who said outside support? Your nation is heavily irradiated, and we'll have casualties as well. Trust me, I'll RP it the way that I was originally.
Zainzibar Land
13-01-2009, 00:57
Character: The Preacher (real name unknown
Age: 60-70
Height: 5'4
Eye color: Blue
Hair color: Gray/white
Description: A crazy old coot who goes from town to town, preaching to the people. He wears a dirty old monk outfit (complete with rope belt), wields a walking stick, always carries some odd book around, some water, and has a sack of potatoes. Now one would think he would be an east raider target, however, he has a guardian angel, one with a .50 sniper rifle.
Character Name: Mysterios Stranger
Age: Unkown
Height: 6'7
Eye Color: Unkown
Hair color: Unkown
Description: He always follows the Preacher, never too close, but never too far. It is unkown who he is, or why he follows and protects the Preacher (Realitive, devout follower, owes him money?). He always wears a gasmask, a WW1 german helmet, gloves, hiking boots, a full body coat, and a backpack. His weapon is a .50 Sniper Rifle.
Bushdome
13-01-2009, 01:12
Im gonna have my blokes travelling in the areas surrounding freeville as im after some interaction with an actuall settlement
Wandering Argonians
13-01-2009, 02:35
Hmm, reminds me partially of the Chinese Remnant Army from Fallout 3

And where do I find these guys?
[NS]Kagetora
13-01-2009, 02:39
@Bushdome: Are you expecting to run into me or Whiskeasy?
Lord Sumguy
13-01-2009, 02:48
@Bushdome: you sure you don't want 'em traveling around New Antioch?
[NS]Kagetora
13-01-2009, 03:40
@WA: You do know this is about 40 years after the inital war right? Assuming your military age is 18 like the US, then your guys are about 60 years old, and that's assuming they were all about 20 when the war started.

So if they're human, I'm surprised they're alive
North Calaveras
13-01-2009, 07:50
im interested....
Lynion
13-01-2009, 08:24
I'm interested!
Ustio North
13-01-2009, 13:48
And where do I find these guys?

Two dead agents in Broadcast Tower KT8 (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Broadcast_Tower_KT8) (Also one of only two locations with a chinese commando hat, the other being the Taft Sewers)

A host of living ones (note, hostile!) in Mama Dolce's, in the DC ruins (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Mama_Dolce%27s)

Also, the actual army is not actually an army, but more the name of the faction they belong to. Though the army will probably appear in the Operation: Anchorage DLC.
Whiskeasy
13-01-2009, 17:39
Umm, UN are you approaching my town?
Kargucagstan
13-01-2009, 17:48
I meant to get a post up last night, but I ran out of time. I'll be working and in school until about five tonight, which is eight hours from now. I'll be able to post then.

EDIT: Mer, is the radio signal you're following supposed to be coming from my men? I forget.
Ustio North
13-01-2009, 17:48
Umm, UN are you approaching my town?

Hmm, I hoped "Wooden Palisades" would have given it away. I also decided not to come right to the gates since you said the Sheriff was out in the field, so I was expecting to bump into him and his gang before reaching Freeville.
Mer des Ennuis
13-01-2009, 18:15
Tal; not necessarily, I was thinking it would be in the middle of that town/an irradiated area, but if you were mysteriously between my men and the radio signal, I wouldn't complain.
DaWoad
13-01-2009, 21:27
there any way I can get in on this? technically I'm a GWO allie/affiliate/ w/e in that im a part of the hegemony
Whiskeasy
13-01-2009, 21:31
It is non-canon, doesn't matter anymore. This is 40 years after the fictional nuclear holocaust in Whiskeasy.
DaWoad
13-01-2009, 21:36
oh yah i fully understood that it was more of just a fact . . . prolly use it to explain what ASD citizens are doing away from the asd . . .in that it wouldn't exist any longer
Whiskeasy
13-01-2009, 21:46
Well you don't have to RP your citizens and I doubt that many of your civilians would be left alive. But if you want to do that it is up to you. I'm sure you can think of a reason.
DaWoad
13-01-2009, 22:04
Well you don't have to RP your citizens and I doubt that many of your civilians would be left alive. But if you want to do that it is up to you. I'm sure you can think of a reason.

lol awesome thanks man :)
Ustio North
13-01-2009, 23:03
It is non-canon, doesn't matter anymore. This is 40 years after the fictional nuclear holocaust in Whiskeasy.

And certain other places. If you find that you need something to do later in the thread, Ustio is still there, if heavily irradiated - but some pre-war installations have survived, although they are relatively uninhabited, apart from a building now known as The Crucible, which i will explain more when John and Mike talk more in IC.
Bushdome
13-01-2009, 23:31
Errrm well, if i run into some one then that would be great but if not then meh
Leistung
14-01-2009, 00:06
I mentioned this to you OOCly, but since our two nations are relatively close, I think I'm going to go for a group of Leistungi refugees who washed up in rafts and whatnot 30-some years ago and set up a fishing settlement at the mouth of the unnamed river where the other two settlements are. If you're okay with it, of course.
Whiskeasy
14-01-2009, 00:11
All fine. Will edit map shortly.
Kargucagstan
14-01-2009, 02:05
Posted. There's no scale on the map so I just assumed that it was 100 miles or less from Kilhomen-New Antioch to the foothills of the southern mountain range. That's the maximum range that a horseman can do in about a day (and four times the recommended limit for foot travelers, but it's amazing what a little whipping can get slaves to do), so I'll have to revise my post a bit if that's wrong.
Mer des Ennuis
14-01-2009, 02:36
What would Kihoman's current situation be like? Inhabited? Abandoned?
New Kereptica
14-01-2009, 05:19
Whisk, can I join? I'd have a fishing community on the remnants of Bruichlladich (I can't quite make out the spelling from the map).
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 07:18
think i'll as a mercenarie with out a background
Whiskeasy
14-01-2009, 09:01
Well any cities would be decaying, probably dangerously so. No problem NK I will put you up on the map. What would be the settlement name?
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 09:06
took me a second to work out who you were talking to in the first part of your post
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 09:53
what being use as money when buying and selling happening?
Whiskeasy
14-01-2009, 10:16
You have to barter. As there would be no implemented money scheme and all previously used monies would be worthless.
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 10:23
why not just use caps like fallout
Whiskeasy
14-01-2009, 10:34
Because that is unrealistic, in reality a currency needs a unified force to establish it, also a reserve of wealth that makes it valuable. Well I'm not a banker but I believe that is needed. You are just going to have to barter like everyone else.
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 10:43
bartering not going to work when hiring people or paying for well a night with a woman
Whiskeasy
14-01-2009, 10:50
Actually it will, you offer a price. A packet if cigarettes, a gun, a chicken, box of ammo. You offer what you have, a skill or a service. Or goods in exchange for other goods. Or goods in exchange for a service. Same concept of paying with money you just offer them gods instead.
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 10:53
okay i'am getting it ,just not use to that kind of system
Mer des Ennuis
14-01-2009, 14:25
talked with Talost last night; i'm going to treat the city as abandoned
Heaven Hieghts
14-01-2009, 17:01
This sounds like fun. Ill join.
Whiskeasy
14-01-2009, 17:14
Fine
New Kereptica
14-01-2009, 18:04
Nova Kaara would be the name Whisk. I'll get a IC post up soon.
Kargucagstan
14-01-2009, 18:59
think i'll as a mercenarie with out a background
Normally I try and get along with everyone, but this time I just can't do it. Isa, I don't think you're have the skills or maturity for this RP. You don't use grammar, punctuation or even capitalization, and every RP you do turns into a sex scene. You have the right to do that, of course, this is NationStates, but I'd prefer it if you did not join this roleplay.
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 19:09
tell someone who cares
Midlauthia
14-01-2009, 19:11
tell someone who cares
He told me and I care ;_;
Kargucagstan
14-01-2009, 19:13
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, isa. I'm just calling it as I see it. Everyone else, though, know that if isa is in, I'm out. I won't RP with him again until he changes the things I outlined in my last post.
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 19:20
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, isa. I'm just calling it as I see it. Everyone else, though, know that if isa is in, I'm out. I won't RP with him again until he changes the things I outlined in my last post.

yur sorry but you can't change Dyslexia when you never got any help with it while in school as it was shit schooling

an other things i do with my Characters with other RPer in threads that don't have you in it is none of your Business
Kargucagstan
14-01-2009, 19:23
I sympathize with your affliction, I really do, but even if we take the spelling, grammar, syntax, etc out of the equation, all of your RPs devolve into one-sentence posts and sex scenes. It is very much my business, considering that you are trying to RP with me.
Midlauthia
14-01-2009, 19:25
yur sorry but you can't change Dyslexia when you never got any help with it while in school as it was shit schooling

so woh Has dyslexia Here?
yurself Or Karg?
Whiskeasy
14-01-2009, 19:37
Isa, sorry but if it's a choice between you and Karg, I pick Karg. You are quite simply an appalling RPer, the reasons don't matter. And it is my business what you do with your characters in other threads as I was supposed to be screening for people like you. Unfortunately I got lazy, and I would really appreciate it if you sat this one out.
Mer des Ennuis
14-01-2009, 19:37
Isa, if you really have dyslexia, what is stopping you from having your work at least spell checked?
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 19:40
you don't know how to spell a word how do you know you changed it the right word
Mer des Ennuis
14-01-2009, 19:42
I dunno, go with the first suggestion? It's probably right most of the time, especially in the fairly non-complex grammar/vocabulary of nationstates.
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 19:48
it's fine if you on a pc (and lets one work for you ) but when you not it's hard to do paper work
Midlauthia
14-01-2009, 19:52
it's fine if you on a pc (and lets one work for you ) but when you not it's hard to do paper work
Can you speak English? Please?
Whiskeasy
14-01-2009, 20:03
Even with dyslexia you should have a perfectly normal sense of grammer does this honestly make much sense to you?
it's fine if you on a pc (and lets one work for you ) but when you not it's hard to do paper work

Because if so you may need to consider some English lessons and perhaps read a few books.
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 20:06
why don't you read up on it and learn it's a learning disability
Midlauthia
14-01-2009, 20:08
why don't you read up on it and learn it's a learning disability
Hello Hataria
Whiskeasy
14-01-2009, 20:09
Well I had a mild form of it and it is more of a problem to put the things you know onto paper, or in these case a screen. For example putting your i's and e's the wrong way around. But if you want to go with that whatever.
Ustio North
14-01-2009, 20:12
Hello Hataria

Don't be speaking that name! It's like mentioning a certain Scottish play!
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 20:19
Hello Hataria

so how old are your, four or five,as that something kids that age would say and think it's funny
Lord Sumguy
14-01-2009, 20:25
Hello Hataria

I hope you aren't serious.
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 20:28
Well I had a mild form of it and it is more of a problem to put the things you know onto paper, or in these case a screen. For example putting your i's and e's the wrong way around. But if you want to go with that whatever.

well i don't have a mile form ,i have the next step up
Midlauthia
14-01-2009, 20:28
I hope you aren't serious.
Of course not, Hataria is a bit above Imperial isa's level.

well i don't have a mile form ,i have the next step up
The two mile form?
Lord Sumguy
14-01-2009, 20:32
Of course not, Hataria is a bit above Imperial isa's level.


The two mile form?

I humbly suggest that you cease using what seems to me to be the increasingly antagonistic tone that you are addressing Isa with, as I see there being no chance of such insults and hostility being at all helpful.

If you have a valid criticism or helpful suggestion, then speak up, but as of yet you have supplied neither.
Ustio North
14-01-2009, 20:35
I humbly suggest that you cease using what seems to me to be the increasingly antagonistic tone that you are using with Isa, as I see there being no chance of such insults and hostility being at all helpful.

Uh, yeah, what 'e said. This really doesn't have to turn into a bitchfest.
Tanaara
14-01-2009, 20:43
Isa is not Hataria and to treat him with such hostility is completely unwarrented.

It is the GM's right to have whom he wishes in his game. If one doesn't like the other player one can always leave.

I know I exprssed interest earlier, but I am going to drop out, thus if you were holding a spot for me, please release it to some one else.
Midlauthia
14-01-2009, 20:51
Isa is not Hataria

It was a joke
and to treat him with such hostility is completely unwarrented.

Okay, Hataria was 7000 posts of awful RP, isa is 20,000.
Leistung
14-01-2009, 21:27
Mid, that sort of stuff is just not warranted, no matter how poorly he may write.

On that note, however, my cousin has dyslexia, and it really only manifests itself in spelling and letter order...not in grammar or capitalization. For that matter, many children with dyslexia are capable of forming complex sentences, they just cannot spell correctly (most spell phonetically) and mix up the order of words.
Imperial isa
14-01-2009, 21:33
throw in shit schooling as the teachers only wanted to help those with higher grades,so they sent you with others to the back of the room to work by yourself with little help

let drop in the one teacher calling you and four others dumb to your face when you get your work wrong
Salzland
14-01-2009, 22:09
Definitely interested, have to wait until Saturday when I'm back at school to do an in-depth entrance.

Edit: The Timbering Republic of Salzland will be providing high-quality lumber for shipbuilding and construction, as its people continue their slow-moving migrant quest to reach the Whiskeasian coast and build ships to sail back to Salzland. They're currently located South of Grouse (specifically along the river connecting New Antioch and Freeville, just East of the river flowing to Grouse), semi-settled/moving very slowly (i.e. at this rate, a mile every two or three years) along the river in a North-Westerly manner. AKA toward New Antioch/ Little Leistung
Bushdome
14-01-2009, 23:28
Right my guys are now poking around the area of Antioch.
St Celestino
17-01-2009, 16:55
Can I play as a shop keeper like Moira Brown in Fallout 3? Or could I possibly own a bar type thing in one of the settlements like the Brass Lantern in Megaton in Fallout 3?
Whiskeasy
17-01-2009, 17:03
Why, not. Take your pick of settlements.. well mine or LS's really since Lei's is quite small and NK is yet to actually post. Keep in mind there is no currency and you will have to use a barter system.
St Celestino
17-01-2009, 17:26
Alrighty, as well, are there any radio stations like in Fo3?
Whiskeasy
17-01-2009, 17:46
No, there aren't any established radio stations. And finding a radio in itself would be a difficult job. I suggest you read the IC intro, it will explain a lot.
St Celestino
17-01-2009, 18:46
Alright, trading ammo for food, and other supplies would make me a fortune. The only problem, is growing the food, not really a problem but an annoyance to do lol.
Whiskeasy
17-01-2009, 18:50
Well I suppose you would barter for that of the farmers.
St Celestino
17-01-2009, 18:53
Yes, I suppose so.
Kargucagstan
19-01-2009, 04:13
Hey, new map! Nice. Sorry about not posting, I was under the impression that Mer wanted to coordinate our next posts, but I can't seem to get a hold of him, so I'll just get a post up tomorrow. Let's keep this going, guys, it's great reading so far!