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It's just a flesh wound,Diplomacy(mt,closed GWO-Stok War)

Chazakain
10-01-2009, 03:14
This thread is closed, only invited countries allowed.

Hotel Gopher, Chaziton, Chazaka, 13:02 Local Time
Abel Hugo paced the hotel lobby, he greatly disliked being in Chazaka, to many bad memories, to many lost. But he had been personally sent by the king and would not fail in this mission when so much was at stake. Yet the Anagonia diplomat was late and it even further agitated the poor man, they had much to discuss and time was already running down. How and even if Anagonia dead would be transported back home and if they were going to stay were they fell what the proper burial rights were, how to handle the 100 POWs captured/rescued from the fringed waters and bloody beaches, how this war would effect further Anagonia and Chazakain relations and more issues. He nodded at a nearby guard and continued his restless pacing...

occ: invited countries: Chazaka(neutral representative), Ralovkia as death guards, fighter4u, Sans Semmes, and anyone else that sent troops and posted anything more than an oribt and withdrawal, rithian is excluded from this meeting :) . If you feel you have a valid reason to join these talks pm/telegram/notify me and you may be allowed in.

Note: no nukes or wmds attacks, no attacks on diplomats(without prior approval,etc this is a peaceful meeting to hammer out a peace treaty between myself and Anagonia and other nations.
Anagonia
10-01-2009, 03:34
Premier Dimitri Vladinchi was in a Generals uniform. He was only fifty-four, showing aged silver hair with black lining. The uniform fit perfectly, matching his dark green eyes. He had a mustache, trimmed and lining above his lips. Clean-shaven, and looking quite the diplomatic type as he strolled into the hotel lobby. He had no escort to speak of, or any apparent. He wore no weaponry per the meeting arrangements. Dimitri gazed around for the person he was supposed to meet, seeing a guard and kindly asking for directions.
Fighter4u
10-01-2009, 03:56
Ahleam Mauin sat in his car as his looked out of the window of the four door black sedan at the hotel which would soon contain so many important people. He nodded to his driver to wait for him on the next corner and then he got out and walked quickly into the lobby while at all time being quite aware that he had no bodyguards. The only protection he had was a device implanted within he skin he could use to signal for help or considering how things turn out. To find his body for fishing out of the nearest waterfront. Neverless such thoughts had to be pushed out of his mind as he entered the lobby and waited to be showed to where had to be. He was impatient and anybody who noticed the grey suited man toped with aging brownish grey hair would noticed that.
Chazakain
10-01-2009, 04:03
Abel noticed the greying general first, have a quick greeting he directed the man to the waiting conference room to the interior and 2nd floor of the hotel and informed him that the Chazaka rep was already in the room and if he needed anything he would just need to ask.

After the general was gone, Abel noticed the grey suited man, again directing him to the inner conference room and indicated that the Anagonia rep and Chazaka rep were already there and they would began shortly once the death guard and Sans Semmes reps arrived if they were indeed sending anyone.

Abel continued to pace the room after the Fighter4u rep had left, more nervous than before after meeting the reps, now were are those two I hate to start without them...
Fighter4u
10-01-2009, 04:28
Ahleam Mauin nodded his thanks to Abel." I think",thought Ahleam as he walked up the stairs to the second floor as part of his daily exersice program of walking whenever he could. Which often made him the bud of jokes amoung his workplace. But he never cared, for a man in his profession he HAD to be fit, but with all the damn smog in this place those maybe he should lay off the exersice for a while. Neverless here he was. Conference Room. Their didn't seen to be a guard those, prehaps they were inside of the room? Of maybe their was a deathsquad waiting for him? Naw.., he had to keep those thoughts especially out of his mind. With one moment Ahleam put on his seriouse blank face,turn the door knob and walked into the room.
Chazaka
10-01-2009, 04:37
Lelex O'Beal nodded to the man in the grey suit as he entered the conference indicting a seat for him to take on the circle table. "Representative, I hope your trip here was pleasant enough. We are now waiting for two more of reps to make their appearance or state that they are not coming and this conference can begin. I believe this older gentleman hails from Anag?"
"Anagonia"
"Ah Anagonia my mistake, his language is quite interesting an odd mixture of (whatever Anagonia language is) and (Anagonia language) but he can make himself clear as needed."

Lelex got up and advanced to the grey suited man and whispered, "Our scanners have detected a low level signal coming from you, we have ruled out any recording device and since we did not detect any weapons as per the invalidation, you are free to keep it active for the moment. but no tricks, ok?"

awaits reply

Lelex went back to her chair. "Now refreshment? maybe some fresh Chazaka spring water or maybe something with a bit more kick. I believe we have a bottle of the 1945 crop of wine from Chazada."
Ralkovia
10-01-2009, 04:46
(I'll get a post in soon)
Fighter4u
10-01-2009, 05:00
OOC: The device is actually something that emits no radiation or energy unless it turned on by the stopping of the user heart or by touch of a finger nail in a certain way and even then you need a highly sensitives scanner to closely scan all parts of his body to pick it up as it barely made of metal and more of plastic and is fueled by the human "host". But for argument sakes I say you picked it up.

IC:
"Ah, sorry about that. It to help keep my pacemaker going due to my ongoing heart problems. Which is why if you noticed I took the stairs on the way up." Stupid,stupid I must had turned it on by mistake or my boss is tracking me already the bastard! Does he not trust me? At least I have a plausible excause. "It a remarkable piece of Fighterian Medical Technology. Its helps when your country is more polluted by neighbouring countries hey?" Said Ahleam without blinking a eye as his remembered the factories smoke stacks as his driver drove him here.

As Ahleam made himself comfortable in his seat he gladly accepted the spring water. As he waited for the other reps to arrive.
Chazaka
10-01-2009, 05:09
occ: lets just say for argumentative sake that Chazaka is highly suspicious of Chazakain and is quite heavily scanning any and all(mostly for concealed weaponry).

"Indeed, the miracles of modern medical technically are quite wondrous and I hope our scanners didn't mess with any of it."

"I've just received word that the death guards are indeed sending a rep so we only await Sans Semmes response before we can began."
Fighter4u
10-01-2009, 05:16
OOC: Works for me. Also this will be my last post until Ralkovia and Sans Semmes post.

IC: "Yes instead,technology can reach pass almost any boundaries...." replied Ahleam coyly.
Chazakain
10-01-2009, 05:21
occ same for me, darn I forget I was going to call the Chazaka diplomat Cain:)

Abel Hugo continued to pace the floor of the Gopher Hotel, he had radioed early to make sure his guests had arrived safely. They indeed had but he was still nervous, hoping that he wouldn't mess up and knowing the punishments if he did...
Anagonia
10-01-2009, 05:55
OOC:

Consider my guy seated, and all that. I'll be going home now. Night all. I'll post responses tomorrow.
Chazakain
11-01-2009, 02:47
Abel Hugo started to head up the stairs towards the conference room, the death guards had wired that they were sending a rep but still no world on the Sans Semmes rep he thought o well I have the major players already here might as well start...

"I greet the Chazaka Rep, Mrs. Lelex, the Anagonia rep this fine general looking gentlemen and the grey coated man from fighter4u.
Today we are here to discuss the following:
How and even if Anagonia dead should be transported back home and if they were going to stay were they fell what the proper burial rights are, how to handle the 100 POWs captured/rescued from the fringed waters and bloody beaches, how this war would effect further Anagonia and Chazakain relations, is Anagonia going to pay for damaged inflected upon Chazakain and vice versa, what Anagonia neutrality really means, to sign/draft a formal peace treaty between these parties and other issues that may crop up. Now where to start..."
Anagonia
11-01-2009, 19:12
Premier Dimitri Vladinchi sat casually and listened to the general topics of questioning. It was surprising to note that the majority surrounded Anagonian/Chazakain Relations. He was expecting that Chazakain would take interest in other nations as well, however considering the previous war he did not blame them. He looked down, holding his hands together, then coughed as an excuse to gain a few more moments of silence. Afterward, he cleared his throat, looking at Abel. He spoke, his voice a heavily influenced Russian/English accent.

"Greetings to you," he said warmly. "I am Dimitri Vladinchi, as if you knew not already, and I believe I can answer all your concerns." He smiled, "Concerning the Fallen Comrades of Anagonia, that would depend on the families in general and their decisions. I suppose we could airlift the bodies home, and that would take care of that." He cleared his throat again, obviously having a hard time speaking english. "I believe that since the war is over, any Prisoner's of War should be released back to their Mother Country. We could exchange POW's for even trades."

He found a glass of water, drinking of it to soothe his throat. He clasped his hands back together on the table as he replied to the third concern, "The Relations between Anagonia and Chazakain would not be affected. Since we returned to normal peacetime due to the Peace Accord, we are neutral to Chazakain and therefore more willing to partake in due diplomatic course." He smiled, going to the fourth issue. "The United Republic will pay for all damages done to Chazakain, whether physical or emotional, especially to the families of the Warriors we so bravely fought." At the fifth issue which was given in the form of a question, Dimirti shrugged. "Neutrality is Neutrality. According to the Peace Accord, Anagonia cannot partake in any event of this Global War. Therefore, we are neutral and in compliance of the Accord so long as we do not actively take action in the war."

Finally, he took a deep breath, having finished and sat back. He smiled to Abel, nodding briefly in respect. "I believe I've answered every concern that was directed to Anagonia, and therefore until you ask again I will remain quiet."
Ralkovia
11-01-2009, 20:10
Death guard commander Descartes Guada stepped into the room and took a look around it. He had been disarmed of all things except the dirk that was planted in his wrist computer. It was cleverly hidden and if he should wriggle his hands it would easily slip out for use, he wouldn't need it of course, he could easily kill anyone who tried to attack him with his bare hands.

He bowed to the representatives before taking a seat. His face hidden behind a plate of one way glass.
Fighter4u
11-01-2009, 22:08
Ahleam listened to the conservation and then spoke up "Chazakain as you know has fought on our side in support of the Rightful Fascists against the imperialism left. Yet your government is not a fascism government. Even those when the invaders came to annex your lands, Fighter4u gracefully came to help defend Chazakain against Anagonia and her allies. Now we ask what course does your county wish to take? We can offer you a treaty of protection to defend you from future attacks and in return you assure us your country will never fight another fascist country or support a fascist enemy. If not, our countries may rapidly comes to odds and we need not remind you of the Kornitar invasion fleet."
Chazakain
11-01-2009, 23:00
"Greetings to you," he said warmly. "I am Dimitri Vladinchi, as if you knew not already, and I believe I can answer all your concerns." He smiled, "Concerning the Fallen Comrades of Anagonia, that would depend on the families in general and their decisions. I suppose we could airlift the bodies home, and that would take care of that." He cleared his throat again, obviously having a hard time speaking english. "I believe that since the war is over, any Prisoner's of War should be released back to their Mother Country. We could exchange POW's for even trades."
Abel pondered the rep response.
"We have little reason to keep your people prisoners so even trades may not even be necessary we just wish to get them off our land and reassign their guards as soon as possible. Now the bodies of your fallen, the majority have already been recovered so airlifting them should be reality quick and painless.


He found a glass of water, drinking of it to soothe his throat. He clasped his hands back together on the table as he replied to the third concern, "The Relations between Anagonia and Chazakain would not be affected. Since we returned to normal peacetime due to the Peace Accord, we are neutral to Chazakain and therefore more willing to partake in due diplomatic course."
"That is quite nice..."

He smiled, going to the fourth issue. "The United Republic will pay for all damages done to Chazakain, whether physical or emotional, especially to the families of the Warriors we so bravely fought."
"Indeed? then I guess we only need to discuss price then..."


At the fifth issue which was given in the form of a question, Dimirti shrugged. "Neutrality is Neutrality. According to the Peace Accord, Anagonia cannot partake in any event of this Global War. Therefore, we are neutral and in compliance of the Accord so long as we do not actively take action in the war."
"Mr. Representative that is all well and good but Chazakain did not sign this accord to which you speak of and we need more than just your word that you won't attack us."

Death guard commander Descartes Guada stepped into the room and took a look around it. He had been disarmed of all things except the dirk that was planted in his wrist computer. It was cleverly hidden and if he should wriggle his hands it would easily slip out for use, he wouldn't need it of course, he could easily kill anyone who tried to attack him with his bare hands.

He bowed to the representatives before taking a seat. His face hidden behind a plate of one way glass.
"Welcome to the meeting, Mr/s. Guada I believe? We have just started." stated Abel indicating an empty chair.


Ahleam listened to the conservation and then spoke up "Chazakain as you know has fought on our side in support of the Rightful Fascists against the imperialism left. Yet your government is not a fascism government.
"Indeed you are correct we are not Fascists and have taken great pains to distance ourselves from our past behaviors over the years. infact there have been talks about if we really even need the monarchy anymore and if it is holding us back. Excuse me but I've seemed to go on a tangent and this is neither the time or the place for that kind of discussion."

Even those when the invaders came to annex your lands, Fighter4u gracefully came to help defend Chazakain against Anagonia and her allies.
"Help what help? Anagonia withdrawal before your nation fleets and troops left their harbors(hyperbole here). Only Chazakain(and Death Guard) blood has been split these days infact even inviting you to this meeting barely squeezed by with one vote. Our government has grown tired of the promises of our "allies" that send aid to only sail away when we decline to their kind offers of servitude."

Now we ask what course does your county wish to take? We can offer you a treaty of protection to defend you from future attacks and in return you assure us your country will never fight another fascist country or support a fascist enemy. If not, our countries may rapidly comes to odds and we need not remind you of the Kornitar invasion fleet."
"Ah now the Kornitar is another story in tiredly hmm? You want to just protect us from those big mean Kornitar without thinking of all that land that could be yours? If you could kindly withdrawal your undercut threat we may beable to continue this meeting, if not you are free to leave."

WIP on responses.
Fighter4u
12-01-2009, 01:58
"With all due apogles Abel", replied Ahleam. We engaged the enemies fleet outside of your waters while a second fleet attacked your homeland. And from what we seen your lucky you weren't just tossed away to the enemy as a mere distraction. Instead we fought and shed blood to defend your nation. Not for your land, as wretched and unimportant as it is. But for the chance of having another ally within the world. For allies are far more important then mere land. Those if you wish us to leave then we very well will and you can fight the imperialism pigs by yourself. I am not a diplomat after all, but a soldier and my masters have lay the terms down for you. Protection in return for the promise you never attack a fascist nation. That is worth far more then any amount of oil,gold or land in all of the world. For what used is it if you have no friends and only enemies who wish to laid waste to all they see?

You will find Abel that Fighter4u is a very friendly and protecting nation. We do not wish to uselessly wage war or force others to be our friends and follow our rules least we destroy them like Dimitri Vladinchi or Descartes Guada nation would and have done. Instead we seek to be worthy of all other nations respect and secure a world where fascists are no longer feared or hated and we must no longer have to worry about the pigs of the world marching on our gates. That is the end goal of all war,all missions, all actions spoken by our leader. We don't need allies or "friends" that we have to baby. We won't promise you lies, just so we can stab you in the back. Instead you have the truth and you can make your nation a very safe and powerful one indeed or you can crumble to pride and vainly. But I repeat again, never ever dare suggest we here for land or for more servants. Their plenty of ODECON or commies nations that can gladly offer Fighter4u that. You on the hand can give us what few other nations can. A strong and loyal ally who until they can get on our feet is under our protection and all that comes with it(free weapons and influence) and in return you simply don't attack any of my fascist brothers. Which if you did in any case would result in your destruction. So please reconsider my offer."
Ralkovia
12-01-2009, 02:10
"Ralkovia is interested in making a defense pact with chazakain. Ralkovia will fully defend chazakain and its interests unless Ralkovia is facing major problems already. Would you be interested in this offer?"
Chazakain
12-01-2009, 03:34
"With all due apologizes Abel", replied Ahleam. We engaged the enemies fleet outside of your waters while a second fleet attacked your homeland. And from what we seen your lucky you weren't just tossed away to the enemy as a mere distraction. Instead we fought and shed blood to defend your nation. Not for your land, as wretched and unimportant as it is. But for the chance of having another ally within the world. For allies are far more important then mere land. Those if you wish us to leave then we very well will and you can fight the imperialism pigs by yourself. I am not a diplomat after all, but a soldier and my masters have lay the terms down for you. Protection in return for the promise you never attack a fascist nation. That is worth far more then any amount of oil,gold or land in all of the world. For what used is it if you have no friends and only enemies who wish to laid waste to all they see?
Ah flip thought Abel. He could nearly hear his boss. "You idiot Fighter4u wasn't one of the nation that left us out to hang and dry, they did send help and did fight and die, now get back out there or we're all dead."

"erh, I'm sorry mr. rep from Fighter4u. I just overreacted to what I thought was a lack of respect that the outside world showed towards us and that some nations did indeed prey on our plight for their own personnel gains hoping to gain our servitude in exchange for sending some forces to help and I thought your nation was one of those vultures but it appears I was wrong I hope you accept my deepest apologies. I'm afraid I let my previous views of fascists get in the way of my judgment of your nation and you should no that not everyone in my nation has such a negative view."

You will find Abel that Fighter4u is a very friendly and protecting nation. We do not wish to uselessly wage war or force others to be our friends and follow our rules least we destroy them like Dimitri Vladinchi or Descartes Guada nation would and have done. Instead we seek to be worthy of all other nations respect and secure a world where fascists are no longer feared or hated and we must no longer have to worry about the pigs of the world marching on our gates. That is the end goal of all war,all missions, all actions spoken by our leader. We don't need allies or "friends" that we have to baby. We won't promise you lies, just so we can stab you in the back. Instead you have the truth and you can make your nation a very safe and powerful one indeed or you can crumble to pride and vainly. But I repeat again, never ever dare suggest we here for land or for more servants. Their plenty of ODECON or commies nations that can gladly offer Fighter4u that. You on the hand can give us what few other nations can. A strong and loyal ally who until they can get on our feet is under our protection and all that comes with it(free weapons and influence) and in return you simply don't attack any of my fascist brothers. Which if you did in any case would result in your destruction. So please reconsider my offer."

"You and your people are indeed most wise and I again offer my deepest apologies for offending you.

Now about "Protection in return for the promise you never attack a fascist nation", I'm afraid Chazakain can not in full truth promise this. We still feel that some government need to be replaced for the good of the larger world but we agree that fascist has gained a negative image in the previous years and we do wish to show the world that not all that ally with them are "evil"."

"Ralkovia is interested in making a defense pact with chazakain. Ralkovia will fully defend chazakain and its interests unless Ralkovia is facing major problems already. Would you be interested in this offer?"

"Indeed, we would be, what would you ask for in turn?"
Fighter4u
12-01-2009, 04:11
Now about "Protection in return for the promise you never attack a fascist nation", I'm afraid Chazakain can not in full truth promise this. We still feel that some government need to be replaced for the good of the larger world but we agree that fascist has gained a negative image in the previous years and we do wish to show the world that not all that ally with them are "evil"."



"True. We can see that and truly we have no wish to try and control your foreign affairs. However you must understand that what we think needs to be replace and you think needs to be replace is probably two different things. What if we set up a agreement that we will protect your nation from invasion and assist you in invasions if requested,along with supplying or helping fund any military upgrades you think your forces need in return for a promise that your armed forces won't attack any fascist nation without our approval? The main reason for this is for one we wouldn't want to upgrade your forces just for them to be used on a brother nation and second because if a fascist is under attack. Fighter4u will probably defend them(not always now,but usually like in the case of Stok aggression against GWO) to further our own interests. Because eventually you learn that their are Commie,pigs and fascists who hate each other and will do all kind of horrible things to hurt each other regardless of their so-called "morals". The trick is make sure their always stuck fighting each other and no one side can upset any balances. Such ensuring no nation comes after you. And a part of our strategy is to attract as future allies nations like yourself so when your bigger we have allies not tainted by the wars and feelings of old. So would this offer work for you?"
Chazaka
12-01-2009, 04:37
"True. We can see that and truly we have no wish to try and control your foreign affairs. However you must understand that what we think needs to be replace and you think needs to be replace is probably two different things. What if we set up a agreement that we will protect your nation from invasion and assist you in invasions if requested,along with supplying or helping fund any military upgrades you think your forces need in return for a promise that your armed forces won't attack any fascist nation without our approval?

Soverighty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereignty) I needz it(and that proposal eliminates quite a bit of it.)
Fighter4u
12-01-2009, 20:07
Soverighty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereignty) I needz it(and that proposal eliminates quite a bit of it.)

"Well then,I suppose we shall have noting more to talk about then. That is our only offer. As for your soverighty we simply wanted your resurement you wouldn't attack countries you have no chance in hell of winning agaisnt if you did fight. This offer benfited you guys 100%. But you must do as you see fit."
Ralkovia
12-01-2009, 20:22
"Nothing more than a small area to build an air and naval base. We were thinking 3 square miles would be appropriate."
Chazakain
13-01-2009, 00:30
"Nothing more than a small area to build an air and naval base. We were thinking 3 square miles would be appropriate."

"ah, I'm sure we can find a spot that would work for us both, now do you have an area already scouted out?"

"Well then,I suppose we shall have noting more to talk about then. That is our only offer. As for your soverighty we simply wanted your resurement you wouldn't attack countries you have no chance in hell of winning agaisnt if you did fight. This offer benfited you guys 100%. But you must do as you see fit."

"Indeed, Chazakain thanks Fight4u for their help during this crisis but we feel that we can not give up this ability/right."
Ralkovia
13-01-2009, 00:56
"No any place is good as long as it can suit the creation of strong and deep underground tunnels which we will utilize for storage of arms."

(Ralkovians are notorious for digging huge holes to store armaments. We don't ever put anything flammable where it could get shot up)
Chazakain
13-01-2009, 01:09
"No any place is good as long as it can suit the creation of strong and deep underground tunnels which we will utilize for storage of arms."

(Ralkovians are notorious for digging huge holes to store armaments. We don't ever put anything flammable where it could get shot up)

"indeed?" Abel said then nearly to himself "Either the southern mountains or the northern lava plains would work best for that type of work. The mountains already have caves and for the most part easly dig able soil while they are mountains so aircraft would have a harder time while the north is fairly flat expect for the volcanoes which would offer extra protection and are deserted for the most part of my people erh sorry about the monologue. I guess the choice is yours."
Ralkovia
13-01-2009, 01:21
"We would take the mountains, they are a great place to put artillery," he said laughing a little bit. It was wierd to see a death guard laugh.
Chazakain
13-01-2009, 01:33
"We would take the mountains, they are a great place to put artillery," he said laughing a little bit. It was wierd to see a death guard laugh.

Abel felt the hair rise a little on the back of his neck.
"erh, glad that works for you, if no one else has any other questions/comments/concerns?"
Fighter4u
13-01-2009, 04:20
"ah, I'm sure we can find a spot that would work for us both, now do you have an area already scouted out?"



"Indeed, Chazakain thanks Fight4u for their help during this crisis but we feel that we can not give up this ability/right."

"Wery well then. Let us hope we never meet on the battlefield then. For a nation so foolish as yours would have no hope agaisnt ours might." With that Ahlem lefted the building and got into his waiting car and eventally his driver drove him to a airport,where they lefted the country onborad a private plane.
Chazaka
14-01-2009, 02:02
"Well done Mr. Abel, you've just ticked off one of the few remaining countries that would help you."