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Here is the OOC/signup thread for my RP. Looking for interested volunteers to be mauled by my re-emerging Scourge.

WoW classes etc. Paladin,Hunter or random?

I'm an FT nation based on the Scourge, so really I'm just looking for interested FT nations to interact with me

O.o ok then *runs away in terror from might of the Scourge*

The Holy Empire of Britannia shall stand against these undead hordes! All Hail Britannia! XD

But seriously, I'm up for it.

ponders the effects antimatter bombs would have on the undead...

ponders the effects antimatter bombs would have on the undead...

They'd be devastating.

They're not much better for the living either :P

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The Scourge, (Your version) versus The Swarm (My version).
I'm interested. I haven't the faintest clue what The Scourge is, but the way you talk, it must be as serious as the Tyranid and Zerg are to their respective lores.

Hm...A little bit about all involved, perhaps? Sweeten the pot with knowledge?

Or I could just pick. I pick Britannia

you want to get blown into tiny little pieces by Battlestars do you?

I'd be keen to get involved, preferably over a few peripheral worlds some distance from Ventuus proper.

The Ventish Empire is fairly large and contains several races, of whom the most prominant are the essentially human Ventish (generally tall, slim, dark hair, blue or grey eyes) and Skandi (short-average height, bulky, various hair and eyes. Technically firmly under the Ventish heel, in practice self-governing with Imperial oversight and foreign policy. Pretty happy with their lot bar a few separatists), the gas-dwelling Ophelians (voluntary subjects of the king. Very wierd social things I'd like to develop more) and Djakan (six limbs, lizards. Willingness to serve the Ventish varies from one clan to another and one tribal chieftain to another. Tend to rise up against Ventuus a lot but are vicious, strong and numerous and so make excellent auxilliary troops. Exceedingly warlike the Ventish army has had to step in several times to prevent massacres on the Djakan worlds.)

Theoretically the Ventish Empire is militarily powerful, its navy is strong, technologically superb and its army numerous, well trained and well equipped even without Djakan auxilliary soldiers and Ophelian auxilliary warships. In practice most of Ventuus's military might is occupied with controlling uprisings and protecting civillian space traffic in the peripheries of their sphere of control following very rapid expansion of Imperial territory under the previous king.

There might be a colony in the "WTFverse", likely the only extra-dimensional colony. Solarians have explored more throughly the multiverse than their own universe because of the fact FTL doesn't work in their universe, just like undeads and orks don't exist in it.

The fact the only way for it to contact the Solarian prime universe requires saying hello to Khorne, Tzeentch and the other chaos gods would make the sending of reinforcements tricky.

Hm. Interesting. I could always do threads with others. And really, Battlestars? Not that scary

Battlestars not scary?

You shut your whore mouth, OP.

Really they aren't, what with the relatively piddling weapon yields. Now GOUs, those are scary.

Really they aren't, what with the relatively piddling weapon yields. Now GOUs, those are scary.

If you were flying a Viper and you had a Battlestar firing at you...it would look pretty scary, dude. All the delicious flak and tracers...missile contrails and nuclear flashes. Fuck yeah. Then again, I have no idea what a GOU is. I suppose I'll google it and get back to you on that.

It might look impressive and smokey, but scary? Nah.

My muri, a race of jungle trolls, traverse space in Shadow vessels-now those are the most frightening things in space.

However, as regards the actual subject of this thread-will it be character based or nation based? Do we set ourselves up as bronze age nations of Azeroth? I am very interested, as WoW has always been a favorite way to spend time online.

If you were flying a Viper and you had a Battlestar firing at you...it would look pretty scary, dude. All the delicious flak and tracers...missile contrails and nuclear flashes. Fuck yeah. Then again, I have no idea what a GOU is. I suppose I'll google it and get back to you on that.

General Offensive Unit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_types_(The_Culture)#General_Offensive_Unit). Two hundred kilometers of pwn, from CAM dispensers to gridfire to displacers to primitive direct fire CREWs. Can sprint at 233 kilolights and dissect a single ant on a planet ten light years away without even slowing down, or just annihilate the whole system in one shot.

And that's if it's playing nice.

My muri, a race of jungle trolls, traverse space in Shadow vessels-now those are the most frightening things in space.

However, as regards the actual subject of this thread-will it be character based or nation based? Do we set ourselves up as bronze age nations of Azeroth? I am very interested, as WoW has always been a favorite way to spend time online.

|I'm an FT nation based on the Scourge. That is the basis of this RP. Me, entering in, hurting someone, having an enjoyable battle ^^

|I'm an FT nation based on the Scourge. That is the basis of this RP. Me, entering in, hurting someone, having an enjoyable battle ^^

Interesting still-Click on the Muri Factbook link in my sig and tell me if they're acceptable, or if I should do a decrepit race of Forsaken instead

They seem interesting, certainly.

I liked the idea of a society revolving around different priestly orders-however, for this particular thread, I'd accept setting up myself as any of the races of Azeroth, and would have no problem setting up a factbook specifically for that purpose.

I liked the idea of a society revolving around different priestly orders-however, for this particular thread, I'd accept setting up myself as any of the races of Azeroth, and would have no problem setting up a factbook specifically for that purpose.

*headdesk* Not the point. The point is I exist in the greater continuity of NS. We're all ourselves, this is merely what my national basis is. You don't have to be anything Azerothian

*headdesk* Not the point. The point is I exist in the greater continuity of NS. We're all ourselves, this is merely what my national basis is. You don't have to be anything Azerothian

Cool enough-I was simply proffering the muri, and if they aren't acceptable, putting up a reasonable second proposal (Besides, I'm sort of playing with the idea of a warlock-powered "Helldrive" for FTL)

Trolls can roll Warlocks, IIRC. ;)

EDIT: Never mind, no they can't. But who cares, say they can anyway. ;)

My muri can even be paladins-I've several orders of them, though they tend to eschew demon-summoning

Anyone wanting to add anything? Or am I just going with Brit?

I have nothing to declare but my genius-lmao

How quaint. -_-

Oscar Wilde is so unappreciated.

*throttles*

I am not sure if you are still looking for participants or have simply given up, but the number of my threads has dwindled slightly. I am open to participation if you need more.

Still looking.

I'd be interested but maybe only playing as a character?

I would like to play (Maybe we should get a form)

Still looking.

I will volunteer then.

I think I'll wait and see if Brit is still interested in this main thread and then sort out other threads to do with other interested and interesting parties :)

I volunteer. The undead are a threat to all, genetics are meaningless against them so we extend the 'mechanatis crusad' law to these folk...

I volunteer, but rather than being attacked by you, would probably be attacking you. The Ermorian undead still hate your guts.

ill volunteer but only as a a character group probably. See, its a long story, but basically my once proud empire that i started in 2005 has since been deleted, so i started a new one, in the rp world roughly 8 years after wards, eh jsut read the factbook

im a mercenary state, and will fight on the side that offers me the most mulah

General Offensive Unit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_types_(The_Culture)#General_Offensive_Unit). Two hundred kilometers of pwn, from CAM dispensers to gridfire to displacers to primitive direct fire CREWs. Can sprint at 233 kilolights and dissect a single ant on a planet ten light years away without even slowing down, or just annihilate the whole system in one shot.

And that's if it's playing nice.

actually its not scary at all, because it pales in comparison, to my almight ignore button, the GOU which wikipedia describes as being 200 meters not 200 km but I could be misreading it as i have not actually read the book series.

Now if the GOU is really like that, then if i ever see it, to me its an instant sign that says, hey lets never RP together again. the galactic standard for regular ships can generally fall from between, 100 meters, to upwads of 20 km, maybe even 30 km. anything really higher than that starts to fall under the catagory of super weapons. i think the biggest ive seen in actual combat, is 80 km, and its a load of crap. Completely useless because no one wants to RP that, because to use it means you have to crew it, it ends up taking away a ton of men from your population.

A ship thats 200 km long, 1 could not make the speeds you say, and even if it could, the ammount of force to accelerate that much mass, shoot to even turn that much mass is unfathomable, you would need the force of atleast 700 nukes to even just deflect it, let alone turn on a dime or even slow it down.

2 a gould rule of thumb, is 10 people per meter of length crewing a vessel. A 330 meter carrier such as the USS. Ronald reagan, carries around 5000 crew members 3200 crew, plus 2,480 people responisble for dealing with the airplanes and such. now a 200 km long vessel? thats 200,000 meter, now times that by 10 2,000,000 but lets not forget. Now no ship can be unmanned, even though the writer says they are, in reality an unmanned ship cant fix itself, there for useless if damaged. though automated systems could take the crew down to maybe, 1,500,000

3, power, not even the zpms in stargate could power one that large, you would need around 10, zpms whcih puts out the power of about, 400 antimater reactors, which, would take incredible upkeep and rediculous amounts of recources.


all in all, a crap weapon that sounds good on paper, but in reality could never be able to work.

when in doubt learn from Hitler. Hitler lost the Russion front because the King Tiger Tanks were expensive, and the T-32 tanks were cheap and effective. Russia out produced Hitlers super weapons and won.

Tarsonis, not everyone rps with an eye on realistic stuff. Myself, I don't do much reality stuff myself.

Besides, if you'd read the books you'd understand the justifications. And GOUs don't have human crews, but they can have drones or avatars to do whatever humans would normally do. Wonderfully flexible when you're a hyperintelligent machine Mind. ^^

actually its not scary at all, because it pales in comparison, to my almight ignore button, the GOU which wikipedia describes as being 200 meters not 200 km but I could be misreading it as i have not actually read the book series.

Now if the GOU is really like that, then if i ever see it, to me its an instant sign that says, hey lets never RP together again. the galactic standard for regular ships can generally fall from between, 100 meters, to upwads of 20 km, maybe even 30 km. anything really higher than that starts to fall under the catagory of super weapons. i think the biggest ive seen in actual combat, is 80 km, and its a load of crap. Completely useless because no one wants to RP that, because to use it means you have to crew it, it ends up taking away a ton of men from your population.
It is indeed closer to 200 meters. The culture's big mobile habitat ships, General Systems Vehicles, are about 80 Km long. Of course, the level of power in the books from which these come is far higher than the standard warsie-type stuff in II. That 200 meter GOU could happily destroy a hundred Death Stars.
A ship thats 200 km long, 1 could not make the speeds you say, and even if it could, the ammount of force to accelerate that much mass, shoot to even turn that much mass is unfathomable, you would need the force of atleast 700 nukes to even just deflect it, let alone turn on a dime or even slow it down. He's talking about Faster than Light. It works however the author ways it works; ie, handwaving. No G forces need be experienced.
2 a gould rule of thumb, is 10 people per meter of length crewing a vessel. A 330 meter carrier such as the USS. Ronald reagan, carries around 5000 crew members 3200 crew, plus 2,480 people responisble for dealing with the airplanes and such. now a 200 km long vessel? thats 200,000 meter, now times that by 10 2,000,000 but lets not forget. Now no ship can be unmanned, even though the writer says they are, in reality an unmanned ship cant fix itself, there for useless if damaged.
You have clearly not heard of this concept called robots. A typical GSV will have three Minds (sapient central computers of incredible power) and thousands upon thousands of non-sapient machines under their direction. They will also typically have numerous sapient and non-sapient combat drones, ranging from knife missiles (think a flying dagger with miniature MLRS on it and some other tricks) to self-aware tanks. Additionally, they often have hundreds of thousands, or millions of people on board, who may take on crew roles, but are more truthfully like a flying city.
though automated systems could take the crew down to maybe, 1,500,000

3, power, not even the zpms in stargate could power one that large, you would need around 10, zpms whcih puts out the power of about, 400 antimater reactors, which, would take incredible upkeep and rediculous amounts of recources.
I'd love to know how you came up with such marvellously precise numbers for ZPMs. I'm guessing 'it's what I imagine they're capable of.' In truth, you need three ZPMs to make Atlantis, an object a few miles wide, that's less dense than water, fly. They're not that powerful, they just explode really violently. And I say this as someone who actually has an Ancient/Goa'uld nation he uses.

Anyway; if you're interested, the Culture's ships primarily draw power from another dimension (well, not as such, but it'll do for this) and their reactors are appropriately massive.
all in all, a crap weapon that sounds good on paper, but in reality could never be able to work.
In reality, there is no FTL.
when in doubt learn from Hitler. Hitler lost the Russion front because the King Tiger Tanks were expensive, and the T-32 tanks were cheap and effective. Russia out produced Hitlers super weapons and won.
That is and incredible over-simplification. For the record, the USSR, after 1942, was also producing more aircraft than Germany, and its aircraft weren't cheap and cheerful like its tanks and guns. The reasons for German loss on the Eastern Front are myriad, and not least is the freaking cold.

If you're interested in the Culture's ships (and society) then there's a brief primer written by the author here (http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~stefan/culture.html).

Besides, if you'd read the books you'd understand the justifications. And GOUs don't have human crews, but they can have drones or avatars to do whatever humans would normally do. Wonderfully flexible when you're a hyperintelligent machine Mind. ^^
Actually, they do often have 'crews' but they're little more than passengers.

For Tarsonis:

http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/

I agree. If anyone deployed a culturewank, I'd promptly fire a standard-sized blackhole* from a SLHC missile. Thus why I prefer war RPs in Modern Tech: there is no tolerance for people who are just trying to wave dicks with no brain input and who would be lazy and not think at all about strategy or tactics when gifted with "Look my steel dick is Undefeatable and Huuuge!" (what is the fun of making a RP where the chances of your NS winning are 99% besides ego boasting?). Or in PMT should I ever find anyone doing it, and considering I haven't seen ZMI around for some time, it's unlikely.

*If claimed "Black Holes can't destroy me!!!11one", then I'd just fire the good old IGNORE cannon.

It is indeed closer to 200 meters. The culture's big mobile habitat ships, General Systems Vehicles, are about 80 Km long. Of course, the level of power in the books from which these come is far higher than the standard warsie-type stuff in II. That 200 meter GOU could happily destroy a hundred Death Stars. The size makes it a little more imaginable if not even more fantastic, wheres Xessmithia when i need him to go into all the physics stuff. a 200 meter ship that can obliterate entire star systems with a singe shot, is retarded at best. He's talking about Faster than Light. It works however the author ways it works; ie, handwaving. No G forces need be experienced. Mass always has to be taken into affect, its basic physics. however, 200 meter as opposed to 200 km, is a vast difference. a 200 m is easily maneuverable, a 200 km is not. G forces can be eliminated by inertial dampeners yes but thats not what im talking about, you still need to be able to turn the ship to create G forces in the first place. You have clearly not heard of this concept called robots. A typical GSV will have three Minds (sapient central computers of incredible power) and thousands upon thousands of non-sapient machines under their direction. They will also typically have numerous sapient and non-sapient combat drones, ranging from knife missiles (think a flying dagger with miniature MLRS on it and some other tricks) to self-aware tanks. Additionally, they often have hundreds of thousands, or millions of people on board, who may take on crew roles, but are more truthfully like a flying city. ah if robots could think thered be none of us around would there. I'd love to know how you came up with such marvellously precise numbers for ZPMs. I'm guessing 'it's what I imagine they're capable of.' In truth, you need three ZPMs to make Atlantis, an object a few miles wide, that's less dense than water, fly. They're not that powerful, they just explode really violently. And I say this as someone who actually has an Ancient/Goa'uld nation he uses.

it was a rough guestamite based on a 200 km measurment, a 200 meter ship doesnt even need a zpm though it would need a round 5 or so to power its all destructive laser spam o doom. and if your gonna use stargate tech learn it. Goa'uld dont use Zpms the Tau'ri do, it wasnt until during the show that the Goa'uld even realize what they are. 2 Atlantis is not lighter than water or did you miss all the episodes where the ship is sinking and shepard has to stop it? Gravitic drives and stabalizers keep Atlantis afloat. Constantly being powered by 3 zpms. Also flying the ship pushes those said Zpms to the max or did you miss the last episode?

Anyway; if you're interested, the Culture's ships primarily draw power from another dimension (well, not as such, but it'll do for this) and their reactors are appropriately massive.In reality, there is no FTL.

oh you dont know that, some how UFO's are landing on Earth and kidnapping rednecks, i doubt that they would spend 1000 years in sublight travel, just to anal probe someone. :tongue:

That is and incredible over-simplification. For the record, the USSR, after 1942, was also producing more aircraft than Germany, and its aircraft weren't cheap and cheerful like its tanks and guns. The reasons for German loss on the Eastern Front are myriad, and not least is the freaking cold.

very true, my point was Hitler is a source of many lessons about war. for he fell into many classic blunders.

1. Dont get involved in a land war in Asia
2. Dont get into it with a sicilian when death is on the line (ah good movie, okay seriously)
2. Efficient and inexpensive is the way to go. this is why M14 simple effective trumps the M16 complicated, and jams frequently.
3. Dont start a war on 2 fronts.
4 mind the Weather you'll catch a cold.
5. Supply lines are crucial.
6. Dont piss of the Americans (Japan, true but they were part of the Axis)
7. Dont Genocide innocent people cause then the world hates you.
8. and last but not least. LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION!

Actually, they do often have 'crews' but they're little more than passengers.

a ship thats 200 meters long easily crewed by 2000 men, simple effective number, and like i said automated sytems reduce the need for crew. the USS enterprise E was like 840 meters long and had a crew of like 900 or something like that.

For Tarsonis:

http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/

I agree. If anyone deployed a culturewank, I'd promptly fire a standard-sized blackhole* from a SLHC missile. Thus why I prefer war RPs in Modern Tech: there is no tolerance for people who are just trying to wave dicks with no brain input and who would be lazy and not think at all about strategy or tactics when gifted with "Look my steel dick is Undefeatable and Huuuge!" (what is the fun of making a RP where the chances of your NS winning are 99% besides ego boasting?). Or in PMT should I ever find anyone doing it, and considering I haven't seen ZMI around for some time, it's unlikely.

*If claimed "Black Holes can't destroy me!!!11one", then I'd just fire the good old IGNORE cannon.


true modern tech is very fun but limits the Imagination somewhat, Plus Nationstates set up makes the stakes in that situation stacked for those who were around in 2004 and 5 and have built up. My original nation "the sons of tarosnis" was made in 2005 but was since deleted so is useless where as with FT you can sit there and come up with different ways to match the much larger nations while remaining small, this includes droid armies and clone armies and such. Also in FT rps, the actual NS population, is more a of a socalled referance than an actual number.

and there is one thing your a hundred procent correct on, disregard for tactics over spam o doom is intollerable and jouvinile

direct quote from your site. "The old bromide is that amateurs study military tactics but professionals study logistics." an army moves on its stomach, in this case its tech, if your tech is unfounded, your fleet is kaput.

Please take the debate to my Argument Thread, it is starting to hijack the Thread away from it's original intentions. You can find the link in my Sig…

Now my attempt to restore the true purpose of this Thread, although I do not possess any worlds and I am nomadic you could have a chance encounter with one of my ships.

Another suggestion is a truly frightening concept of the Scourge, the Swarm, and my Kythons mixing it up together into a single messy no holds barred three way battle with a couple other nations tossed in for hours ‘devours.

Just an idea.

i appologize on behalf of all of us it wasnt the intent

as for your idea, yes that is frightning, 3 nations with armies that consume like locusts battling it out with countries caught in the middle, i shudder to think,.....lets run with it should be fun...and i have my own version of the "swarm" i used to use zerg tech as well.

The size makes it a little more imaginable if not even more fantastic, wheres Xessmithia when i need him to go into all the physics stuff.

I've been busy, lazy and ill.

ahhhhh Xess! its good to see you my friend been a long time.

Bump for sign ups

I am waiting to hear from the OP to see what he wants. I think the free for all thing is outside the origional intention of this Thread but it would make a good side Thread to have for fun, meaning nothing would be permanent if everyone wished.

Well if you have someone who wants to play the main opponent to the Scourge Dyelli Beybi can always show up every now and then to get in the way of everyone's plan.

true modern tech is very fun but limits the Imagination somewhat, Plus Nationstates set up makes the stakes in that situation stacked for those who were around in 2004 and 5 and have built up.


Not to mention 2003 players lol

heres the thread http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=578710

Since I am nomadic and have no worlds to invade, I would need permission from Ice Crown to join this. Perhaps a telegram outlining how they would wish my involvement would be in order.