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Federation models new Aircraft carrier for sale![MT,trade]

Cukarica
24-12-2008, 16:40
NEW CARRIER FOR SALE!

The Federational Naval Corps
http://www.mup.vladars.net/policija/slike/Grb_spec.jpg


Zaitsev class carrier

Price:
4,7 billion $
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# Builder:Federational Naval Warfare Institute, Naval base Tikidion,Cukarica
# Power Plant: Two A4W reactors, four shafts
# Length: 333 m (1092 ft) overall
# Flight Deck Width: 76.8 - 78.4 m (252 - 257 ft 5 in)
# Beam: 41 m (134 ft)
# Displacement: 98,235 - 104,112 tons full load
# Speed: 30+ knots (56+ km/h)
# Aircraft: 85 (current wings are closer to 64, including 48 tactical and 16 support aircraft)



# Cost: about $4.7 billion each
# Range: Capable of continuously operating for 20 years without refueling
# Average Annual Operating Cost: $160 million
# Service Life: 50+ years
# Crew: Ship's Company: 3,200 — Air Wing: 2,480
# Armament:
Sea Dart or Guided Weapon System (GWS) 30
Sea Dart is a two-stage, 4.4 m long missile weighing 550 kg. It is launched using a drop-off Chow solid-fuelled booster that accelerates it to the supersonic speed necessary for the operation of the cruise motor, a Rolls-Royce (Bristol Aerojet) kerosene-fuelled Odin ramjet. This gives a cruise speed of over Mach 2.5, and unlike many rocket powered designs the cruise engine burns for the entire flight, giving excellent terminal manoeuvrability at extreme range. It is capable of engaging targets out to at least 30 nautical miles over a wide range of altitudes.
AIM-132 Advanced Short Range Air-to-Air Missile
This seeker has a long acquisition range, high countermeasures resistance, approximately 90 degrees off-boresight lock-on capability, and the possibility to designate specific parts of the targeted aircraft (like cockpit, engines, etc). The ASRAAM also has a LOAL (Lock-On After Launch) ability which is a distinct advantage when the missile is carried in an internal bay such as in the upcoming F-35 Lightning II.

85 (95 full load) aircraft, including:
* 48 F-35 Lightning II
* 7 Airborne Early Warning aircraft
* 5 Refueling planes

This is only example,as we are not selling aircraft but only the carrier without any Air units.


It offers the folowing:

* Ability to operate offensive aircraft abroad when foreign basing may be denied.
* All required space and infrastructure; where foreign bases are available they are not always available early in a conflict and infrastructure is often lacking.
* A coercive and deterrent effect when deployed to a trouble spot.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/dynamics/phugoid/aircraft-carrier.jpg

It has been developed as a respond to Nimitz class aircraft carriers,heavily modernized and equiped.
It has been marked for sale to foreign militaries.
Ustio North
24-12-2008, 16:44
OOC: Do you have an image for it?
Cukarica
24-12-2008, 16:47
OOC:sure i forgot to post it sorry
Imperial isa
24-12-2008, 17:02
ooc you don't need that many AEWs and why have you not got any Air Refueling planes?
Cukarica
24-12-2008, 17:05
OOC:Well im just making an example the countries that buy the Carrier can put any type of Aircraft they want.Ill re-edit it now =)
Ustio North
24-12-2008, 17:06
ooc you don't need that many AEWs and why have tyou not got any Air Refueling planes?

OOC: Air-To-Air Refuelling? You don't need that on an Aircraft Carrier.
Cukarica
24-12-2008, 17:09
OOC:hmmmm still it could prove usefull...
Alliance Star
24-12-2008, 17:10
(( OoC: So no armament of any measure? Sounds like a nice missile spam target to me! =D

Might want to consider some sort of Counter-Missile systems as the least.

Also, it feels like it's a Nimitz-Class Carrier to me. Like, it's really similar in many fashions, but more expensive. D= ))
Imperial isa
24-12-2008, 17:10
OOC: Air-To-Air Refuelling? You don't need that on an Aircraft Carrier.

ooc USA still do Air-To-Air Refuelling of the naval fighters if something happens to the deck or they returning from a long range mission
Cukarica
24-12-2008, 17:12
OOC: Yup its Nimitz class restructured...and modernized... =) ANd i allready left armament section empty as i didnt decide what missiles to put on it...
Alliance Star
24-12-2008, 17:13
ooc USA still do Air-To-Air Refueling of the naval fighters if something happens to the deck or they returning from a long range mission

(( OoC: Yeah, but they don't need Refueling aircraft. And, what you are describing is landing and refueling. Why planes do anyway.

And, if needed they just throw on some external fuel-pods on the Super Hornets (F/A-18E/F) which provide an in-flight refueling role. No need for a specific aircraft, unless you like having that much less combat effectiveness. Personally, I like to be able to fight and provide logistics. =P ))
Ralkovia
24-12-2008, 17:17
( I want a hybrid submarine/aircraft carrier. It was done by the japanese in WW2 but after that it was sort of forgotten. Its now useless since we have cruise missiles etc. but still it would be awesome to have jets coming out of like no where. However it would definitely have problems making it nothing more than a useless waste of space and money in the navy)
Creote
24-12-2008, 17:17
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww115/Creote/CREOTEFOREIGN.png

The People's Republic of Creote is interested in the Ziatsev Class Carrier. Please establish an embassy in Creote, so that we can further this purchase.
Cukarica
24-12-2008, 17:21
OOC:You made me work harder =) with your "missile spam" =).
Imperial isa
24-12-2008, 17:23
(( OoC: Yeah, but they don't need Refueling aircraft. And, what you are describing is landing and refueling. Why planes do anyway.

And, if needed they just throw on some external fuel-pods on the Super Hornets (F/A-18E/F) which provide an in-flight refueling role. No need for a specific aircraft, unless you like having that much less combat effectiveness. Personally, I like to be able to fight and provide logistics. =P ))

ooc seeing the fighter that shown you going to need another type for the pods

this is what i find showing some of the other planes that all so are carried on a carrierhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_Naval_aircraft
Cukarica
24-12-2008, 17:30
The Federation of Cukarica


The Federational Naval Corps
http://www.mup.vladars.net/policija/slike/Grb_spec.jpg

TO:Creote

RE:Zaitsev class carrier

Embassy established,please send further instructions regarding the purchase,thank you.

The Federation of Cukarica
Alliance Star
24-12-2008, 17:37
(( OoC: Those are just United States Naval Planes. I'm sure there are various ones on NS made by various designers, along with various real-world fighters like the Su-33 and the Rafale.

It's always better to work harder. Missile spam, sucks. D= ))
Cukarica
24-12-2008, 17:43
(( OoC: Those are just United States Naval Planes. I'm sure there are various ones on NS made by various designers, along with various real-world fighters like the Su-33 and the Rafale.

It's always better to work harder. Missile spam, sucks. D= ))


OOC:Yup they are US Naval Planes ill try to think of some better aircraft,but as i writed its the carrier im selling not the airplanes...and the countries who buy it can put Happy three friends on the carrier as i dont care what they do with it =).
Imperial isa
24-12-2008, 17:45
..

ooc yes but it show some of the roles that NS carriers have as well

Missile spam, sucks
yup
Cukarica
24-12-2008, 17:48
OOC:

IC RESPONSE PEOPLE!
Thank YOU! =)
Creote
24-12-2008, 17:49
The People's Republic of Creote

We will purchase 2 Zaitsev Class Carriers, please give me a quote as to how much it will cost in total. And is my nation correct in beliveing that the carrier only needs to be re-fueled every 20 years?

Thank you for the trouble you have taken in establishing diplomatic relations.
Cukarica
24-12-2008, 17:53
The Federation of Cukarica


The Federational Naval Corps
http://www.mup.vladars.net/policija/slike/Grb_spec.jpg

TO:Creote

RE:Zaitsev class carrier

The Carrier itself is Nuclear powered,and The Federation is willing to upgrade and repair the Carriers every two years because we guarantee the Carriers good performance.
No problem with the embassy establishment.
The total cost is:

9,4 billion $

The Federation of Cukarica
Creote
24-12-2008, 18:18
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww115/Creote/NAVY.jpg

The People's Republic of Creote Navy (PRCN) has agreed to the deal offered by your nation.

AMOUNT TO BE PAID: $9,4 Billion.

DEAL: 2 Ziatsev Class Aircraft Carriers, Maintenance, Uprade and Servicing of Creotian Carriers every two years - Free of charge.

The People's Republic of Creote thanks Cukarica.
Tolvan
24-12-2008, 21:12
OOC: Air-To-Air Refuelling? You don't need that on an Aircraft Carrier.

Actually tankers are quite useful aboard carriers.

From GlobalSecurity.org
Strike forces launched from aircraft carriers in the Gulf of Tonkin were accompanied by tankers for a final refueling before they went to the target. Tankers were held in standby orbits for attackers returning from the target, and a tanker was always in orbit over the aircraft carrier in the event a returning airplane, almost out of fuel, missed its “trap” and had to circle for a second attempt at landing.


KA-6D Link (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ka-6.htm)
Cukarica
24-12-2008, 22:13
OOC:Anyone else interested? ^^
Cukarica
25-12-2008, 21:13
bumped...
Cukarica
27-12-2008, 21:54
bumped
Parilisa
27-12-2008, 22:03
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THE LIBERAL REPUBLIC OF PARILISA

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE

To: The Federation of Cukarica
From: General Karl Ludenfretz, Parilisan Ministry of Defence

Dear Sir/Madam,
I have been asked by the ministry of defence to contact you concerning the purchase of two Zaitsev Class Carriers for use by the Parilisan Navy. Once I have been informed of an approximate price the money will be wired.

Yours Sincerely,
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General Karl Ludenfretz
Cukarica
27-12-2008, 22:12
Response concerning purchase


http://www.mup.vladars.net/policija/slike/Grb_spec.jpg


Total price is 9,4$.But as you are a member of ANTIFA the price is reduced to 7$ billion for both Aircraft carriers and 4 year maintenence and upgrades.
Parilisa
27-12-2008, 22:14
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THE LIBERAL REPUBLIC OF PARILISA

MINISTRY OF DEFENCE

To: The Federation of Cukarica
From: General Karl Ludenfretz, Parilisan Ministry of Defence

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for granting us this most gracious discount. The money has been wired. It is a pleasure to trade with a fellow ANTIFA member.

Yours Sincerely,
http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/The_Republic_of_Parilisa/untitled.jpg
General Karl Ludenfretz
Cukarica
27-12-2008, 22:17
Response concerning purchase


http://www.mup.vladars.net/policija/slike/Grb_spec.jpg


Pleasure is all ours.May both we prosper.
Cukarica
28-12-2008, 10:09
bumped yet again
Cukarica
28-12-2008, 20:46
bump again