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Hi! I'm Chinaza, a new nation on nationstates, and was wondering if I could have an oppressive government rule me, then I rebel against them and win independence. My nation is locasted in Africa, along the Atlantic Coast and a bit inland. To be exact, Chinaza rules Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Congo, Cameroon, and Central African Republic.

Thanks!

See, what I never understood was the inclusion of RL nations in NS. I don't think it happens... but anyways. Well, that's quite a lot of land for an opressed nation to be ruling and besides, who'd willingly lose to another country?

(ooc: My best advice to you is to make your own introduction like I did and have other countries introduce themselves to you and then build a role-play over that. After a while I intend to make an assembly of all those agreed to join to celebrate and discuss the future of mine and their nations. You can have so much more freedom about how your country managed to pull itself away and gained independence.)

I guess I could oppress you. But as Anemos said, that's a lot of land for an oppressed country to have.

What odd replies!

Of course it happens, you're looking right at it! British India was a lot of land for an oppressed nation then, eh? And people who'd willingly lose to another nation are the ones not called n00bs.

Chinaza, I can offer to play the part, but I have doubts about how keen you'd be! New Abargrapt is just a refreshed Abargrapt (much older, bigger) because reactivating that account caused trouble getting on to the forums and I couldn't be bothered to get it fixed.

Abargrapt used to be a sort of puppet of another defunct nation, New Eastgate, after losing a war, but would still have been allowed a hand in Africa owing to a prevailing old-fashioned white supremacy view held in both nations. Recently, we've had a revolution, and the pro-Eastgate government has been kicked out by nationalist rebels, which would provide a good oportunity -in all the chaos- for your nation to revolt as well.

However, Abargrapt -a Pacific territory colonised by Europeans, at the expense of Polynesian natives- is stuck in the past technologically. If you were to pick Abargrapt, you'd be revolting against a nation that has only just figured out breech-loading rifles and hand-cranked machineguns. Sort of late-Victorian. But that would help to explain how your guys are able to win the revolt, I suppose!

Well, the offer's there if you can't find anyone more suitable.

I'll volunteer to rule your nation. My country is a hardline Fascist organization that has no mainland. Instead, it's around 136 provinces/colonies across the world. Rebellion is fought via the Civil Control System, which is described in my factbook.

However, rebellion would be very difficult, presuming that I've already set up the CCS. Or, it could be that the system is still being constructed there when the rebels rise up.

Do you have an MSN?

I'll volunteer, me and this guy, Amazonian Beasts, made the perfect RP like this about a year back but it never finished. I would love to start it up again with another new RPer.

Leis! Get onto MSN!

My nation is similar to the British Empire in that I have colonies throughout the world (including Africa) I could play the part if you wish.

What odd replies!

Of course it happens, you're looking right at it! British India was a lot of land for an oppressed nation then, eh? And people who'd willingly lose to another nation are the ones not called n00bs.

Chinaza, I can offer to play the part, but I have doubts about how keen you'd be! New Abargrapt is just a refreshed Abargrapt (much older, bigger) because reactivating that account caused trouble getting on to the forums and I couldn't be bothered to get it fixed.

Abargrapt used to be a sort of puppet of another defunct nation, New Eastgate, after losing a war, but would still have been allowed a hand in Africa owing to a prevailing old-fashioned white supremacy view held in both nations. Recently, we've had a revolution, and the pro-Eastgate government has been kicked out by nationalist rebels, which would provide a good oportunity -in all the chaos- for your nation to revolt as well.

However, Abargrapt -a Pacific territory colonised by Europeans, at the expense of Polynesian natives- is stuck in the past technologically. If you were to pick Abargrapt, you'd be revolting against a nation that has only just figured out breech-loading rifles and hand-cranked machineguns. Sort of late-Victorian. But that would help to explain how your guys are able to win the revolt, I suppose!

Well, the offer's there if you can't find anyone more suitable.

Obviously, my friend, you do not understand or see the implication that I am trying to say that the vast majority of NS DOESN'T use RL nations.

In addition... well, I'm prettysure that this strip of land is, indeed, bigger than India and besides, this is the 21st century. If a nation can still afford to maintain a colony, the people are either a) happy to accept or b)back in oblivion, making stone tools. Name one 21st century colony for me.

The French Comoros Island. Don't know it's name off hand, however, it is there. Same as the Falkland Islands of the United Kingdom.

Then there's French Guiana and a couple of African nations.

The French Comoros Island. Don't know it's name off hand, however, it is there. Same as the Falkland Islands of the United Kingdom.

Then there's French Guiana and a couple of African nations.

Then there's Baker Island, Christmas Island, Isle of Man, Guam, Marshall Islands... pretty much, there's A LOT of colonies out there. Take a look at the CIA Factbook (The physical book, not the online one), you'll see how many there are.

[Name one 21st century colony for me.

There's tons. Most of them are small islands, though. Greenland's a pretty noticeable one on the map.

We just term them differently nowadays, because to some, the term "colony" is synonymous with "racism" and "opression". Some 21st century terms include "Overseas Territory", "Dependency", "Commonwealth", and "Autonomous Province".

You'll find that a fair portion of NS nations have colonies. Some, like Questers, Ixania, Zoingo, and myself, maintain large, sophisticated colonial empires.

I've got a few colonies...

Obviously, my friend, you do not understand or see the implication that I am trying to say that the vast majority of NS DOESN'T use RL nations.

In addition... well, I'm prettysure that this strip of land is, indeed, bigger than India and besides, this is the 21st century. If a nation can still afford to maintain a colony, the people are either a) happy to accept or b)back in oblivion, making stone tools. Name one 21st century colony for me.

Actually, it depends what he means by 'Congo'. If it's R Congo, then British India was much bigger. If it's DR Congo, British India was marginally smaller, slighty more so if it's both, but significantly larger in terms of population (by RL not NS statistics).

A huge proportion of NS does use RL nations. Not worth bringing this up in a new guy's thread, really, just because you don't play exactly the same way.

And so what if this is the C21st? It's a C21st with, as you so deftly point out, fictional landmasses, inhabited by fictional races with fictional societies.

There were major colonial wars going on during the lifetimes of several users on these boards. The Portuguese were fighting in huge African colonies in the 1970s, and were at war with India in the mid/late C20th. It's an ever so slightly smaller stretch to imagine similar colonial conflicts going on just a single generation later than to imagine new continents with imaginary races, isn' it? If you can accept that, I can't see how you can feel justified in your complaints. I'm not really having a go, just trying to set you right.

Anyway, the OP has a lot of offers now, so let's see what (s)he goes for!

There's tons. Most of them are small islands, though. Greenland's a pretty noticeable one on the map.

We just term them differently nowadays, because to some, the term "colony" is synonymous with "racism" and "opression". Some 21st century terms include "Overseas Territory", "Dependency", "Commonwealth", and "Autonomous Province".

You'll find that a fair portion of NS nations have colonies. Some, like Questers, Ixania, Zoingo, and myself, maintain large, sophisticated colonial empires.

DOn't forget Crown Royalty.

The French Comoros Island. Don't know it's name off hand, however, it is there. Same as the Falkland Islands of the United Kingdom.

Then there's French Guiana and a couple of African nations.

Of that size? The Falklands are quite small compared to the terrirotries discussed here.

Australia was once the United Kingdoms colony, now it's a continent.

Australia was once the United Kingdoms colony, now it's a continent.

It still was a continent back then.

DOn't forget Crown Royalty.

You mean like Jersey?

Then there's Baker Island, Christmas Island, Isle of Man, Guam, Marshall Islands... pretty much, there's A LOT of colonies out there. Take a look at the CIA Factbook (The physical book, not the online one), you'll see how many there are.

the Australian government paid the government of Singapore £2.9 million in compensation for Christmas Island

Yes, but Australia is now independent.

Yes, however, they were still able to own it with a population much smaller than it is today and with weapons much poorer than there are around to day.

But on the other hand, it is now much easier to obtain weapons that actually give you a chance, and if the population are armed and unhappy then you have no chance of controlling them all over such a large area. Even if you could, the amount of money spent on keeping the colony under control would be more than what the colony could produce, thus making the whole situation into a war of attrition in favour of the rebels.