NationStates Jolt Archive

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Groussherzogtum Vun Lëtzebuerg, Verdeedegungsministère.

Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung. (OVA)
In conjunction with the Vun Lëtzebuerger Arméi a Marine

The Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung is a Van Luxemburger governmental organisation that was founded by the Ministry of Defence. It owns and maintains all military equipment in the Grand Duchy, and is responsible for the acquirement and resale of any required or surplus equipment. On this webspace, the OVA will regularly announce new requirements, or new surplus equipment. If one is interested in placing a bid on a new requirement or is interested in buying surplus Van Luxemburger equipment, contact is possible through the Ministry of Defence, Boulevard 5. Mee 1945 110, L-10000 in Luxembourg, The Grand Duchy of Van Luxemburg. Mail responses are possible through contact@ova-mod.vl

How do I buy surplus equipment?

The surplus equipment is generally sold on a first come, first serve basis. The prices listed are all advised prices: the OVA reserves the right to alter prices according to requirement. Please note that the sales clearance level varies per object: OVA is able to refuse any type of sale to foreign nations they think are unsuitable to receive former Van Luxemburger equipment.

On top of the object costs, the OVA imposes shipping costs (10% of the total order value), and requires the buyer to be registered in their administration, to avoid sales to possible terrorist organisations or clandestine operations.

On some special occasions, the OVA also offers new equipment up for sale. This equipment is subject to even tighter regulations, and requires a full background check done in cooperation with the Ministry of Defence, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the IVD.

How do I offer new equipment to the Grand Duchy, or how do I bid on current requirements?

Generally, the OVA is only interested in filling existing requirements. Defence firms are welcome to offer their new developments for sale regardless of them not filling any requirements, but the sales chances are small. If your offer has been accepted outside of an existing requirement, your firm will be contacted with information regarding the order.

Military requirements will be publicised through the OVA’s webspace. Even though the organisation also actively researches foreign weapons systems themselves, and often requests companies to bid on a requirement, other companies can also bid on these objects. They are required to supply vital specifications of the system, a price and, if applicable, an order specification. These will be evaluated by the organisation, and orders will be made accordingly. The OVA and the Arméi/Marine prefer to also evaluate examples of the new equipment on their own proving grounds.

Shipping costs and import will be handled by the OVA. Please note that the Ministry of Defence prefers to produce their equipment locally.

Current surplus equipment

Object: Monteluci Duca V8 SFS VIP (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13987095&postcount=21)
Short description: Armoured automobile formerly used by the Minister of Defence.
Number available: None. Sold to the Republic of Lincolnton
Condition: 2008 model, 10,000 kilometres driven, overall condition good.
Advised price: $270,000

Object: Monteluci M6a (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13005158&postcount=1)
Short description: open 4x4 in deep reconnaissance version with 1 FN BRG-15 and 3 FN MAG included, extra fuel and water supply. Formerly in use with the ‘Draachentrupp’ regiment.
Number available: None. Sold to the Republic of Lincolnton.
Condition: used, around 200,000 kilometres driven. Produced 2007.
Advised price: $18,000 per vehicle.

Object: Dassault Super Étendard Modernisé (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault-Breguet_Super_%C3%89tendard).
Short description: Formerly in use with the MLD, on their carriers.
Number available: 181
Condition: Generally in bad condition: Have not been flown since 1998, had Modernisé (M) upgrade. Originally produced 1979, last upgrade 1992.
Advised price: $3.4 million USD per aircraft.

Object: SIG SG540 assault rifle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_SG540)
Short description: Assault rifles previously utilised by the Arméi and Marine. Has been in use until 1995.
Number available: 120,000
Condition: Used. Some rifles have been damaged through extensive use.
Advised price: $180 per rifle.

Currently required equipment

Object: Heavy utility helicopter
Short description: Helicopter for both Arméi and Marine use, in troop transport and cargo variants. Must have a cargo capacity of around 10,000 kilograms, or some 50 troops. A Monteluci M6 4x4 must either be carried inside or on a sling load.
Number required: 780
To be domestically produced: Yes
Required maximum price: $35 million per helicopter
Current bidders:
Boris Rotorcraft CH-25 Virgil - testing vehicles ordered.

Object: Naval VSTOL multirole fighter jet.
Short description: multirole VSTOL fighter jet to be used on the VSTOL carriers of the Van Luxemburger Marine. Must have supersonic capability (min. Mach 1.5) and able to carry Anti-Air (Iris-T, Meteor), Anti-shipping (Saab RBS-15, Kongsberg NSM) and land attack weapons (Brimstone, Scalp EG/Storm Shadow/Taurus KEPD350, laser-guided bombs)
Number required: 192
To be domestically produced: Preferably
Required maximum price: $105 million per aircraft
Current bidders:
Militéier Fliger Kooperatiouns Group (MFK Group) - Van Luxemburger cooperation involving major aircraft companies has expressed interest in entering the bid with a yet-unnamed project.

For: Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung
From: Secretary Christina Berney, State Department, Republic of Lincolnton
Issue: Equipment Purchase

For whom it may concern,

Greetings,

I am contacting you today on behalf of the Republic of Lincolnton to arrange, if possible, two purchase deals. If you desire information on this country then it would be my pleasure to provide the information you seek.

Firstly, my government desires a more secure mode of land transport for the President of the Republic, and for this reason we wish to arrange to purchase immediately the Monteluci Duca V8 SFS VIP presently available.

In addition, the Republic of Lincolnton Army is currently seeking vehicles that it can use to equip its reserve reconnaissance regiment, and thus my fellows in the Defense Department have asked that I buy the Monteluci M6a vehicles now being offered if possible.

I am told the listed prices would bring the total expenditure to $3,870,000.00 in all. This is within my nation's budget abilities.

I hope you will agree to allow these purchases, and perhaps we could engage in additional exchanges in the future.

Regards,
Christina Berney, SecState, RL

OOC:

Before you ask, VL, this is a secondary account, created by an existing nation with whom you have had RP dealings before.

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To: Secretary Christina Berney, State Department, Republic of Lincolnton

Dear Madam,

I am afraid that we indeed have too little information on your nation. We are sorry to say, that we cannot sell any sophisticated military equipment to a nation we have no details on. Therefore, we wish to request more information regarding the Republic of Lincolnton, especially concerning military and political issues.

The vehicles you have expressed interest in are generally in good condition and well-maintained. All vehicles will be serviced at the Monteluci factories in Venezia prior to their shipping. The Monteluci M6'es will receive an engine overhaul before general service. The total price comes to $3,870,000, if the Republic of Lincolnton sends it's own ships to transport these vehicles. If the OVA is required to ship the goods, the total price comes to $4,257,000. However, as stated before, we first would like to receive more information regarding the Republic of Lincolnton.

We thank you for your interest,

Signed,
Brig. Fabrizio Guittare
Managing Director,
Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

(OOC: Don't get me curious, you know..:tongue:)

For: Brig. Fabrizio Guittare, Managing Director, Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

Sir,

I do wish you had been more specific about the information you desire, but, in the interests of diplomacy, I shall do my best.

Lincolnton was founded in June of 1850 as a civil rights experiment to prove it was possible for a nation where all ethnicities and both genders share equal rights to not only exist, but to flourish. Since that time we have held to that idea, and we have continued to succeed without break. Civil rights here are a highly prized national treasure, held sacrosanct by the government.

Economy in Lincolnton is based on the principle of free-market capitalism with basic laws in place to prevent work force abuse but little regulation otherwise.

Government in Lincolnton is handled by a three-branch elected government. Executive powers are held by an elected President who serves six year terms but is limited to no more than two consecutive terms. Legislature is managed by an elected bicameral Congress. Our judicial system is organized much alike its primary influencers in the old United States.

Militarily, the Republic operates a small professional army, with large reserves in place to enlarge it in any emergency, a navy, also quite small, and minimal air force.

Is there anything else you wished to know?

Regards,
Christina Berney, SecState, RL

OOC:

I can send a telegram from my primary nation if you wish.

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To: Secretary Christina Berney, State Department, Republic of Lincolnton

Dear Madam,

We believe that this information should be sufficient. We have been in touch with the Arméi, and the requested Monteluci 4x4's will be removed from their vehicle pool immediately, and transported to Venezia by train. There, the VLTC engines will be refurbished and the overall vehicles will be serviced, before the vehicles are painted in the camouflage colours we have received. The Duca is currently already at a local Monteluci dealership in Luxembourg, and the OVA will take care of the servicing costs there.

The vehicles can be shipped within 4 weeks from now, all from the port of Venezia in Van Luxemburg. If the OVA takes care of shipping, Koopmans Transporten, Van Luxemburg, will be contracted to transport the vehicles by RO/RO vessel. The total cost will come to $4,257,000 NSD. If Lincolnton prefers to take care of shipping, the vehicles will wait on the quays of the Port of Venezia, in a secure area of the port. If this option is chosen, the cost comes to $3,870,000 NSD

Once again, we thank you for your interest,

Signed,
Brig. Fabrizio Guittare
Managing Director,
Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

(OOC: Please do.)

For: Brig. Fabrizio Guittare, Managing Director, Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

Sir,

Lincolnton would be quite content to pay Koopmans Transporten to transport.

We thank you for approving these purchases.

Regards,
Christina Berney, SecState, RL

Organisatioun Update

The OVA has updated the list of requirements: the MLD (Marine Loft Divisioun, Navy Air Arm) is in need of a supersonic multirole VSTOl fighter jet. A cooperation of major Van Luxemburger aerospace companies has already expressed interest in bidding on the new requirement with a yet unnamed project. The OVA is currently looking for interested foreign entities to compete in this new requirement.

To: OVA
From: Boris Rotorcraft
Re: Heavy utility helicopter

Boris Rotorcraft offers the CH-25 Virgil, at a price of $25 million per unit, to fulfill your requirement. You intend to produce 780 units, making the total cost $19.5 billion. As you want a domestic production license, there will be no reduction in price for buying in bulk; otherwise, the cost would have been reduced to $18.75 billion. Note that CH-25T Virgil trainers cost $24.5 million each; we recommend you purchase 78 of them, to help new aircrews familiarize themselves with the controls and with operating heavy-lift helicopters. That would run you $1.911 billion ($1.75 billion if you purchase from us).

CH-25 Virgil
The CH-25 uses a unique, transverse arrangement of its rotors, eliminating the need for a maintenance-intensive tail rotor. It is a relatively swift heavy-lift helicopter, and is capable of carrying a payload of up to 15000kg, or up to 60 troops.

Crew: 8 (2 pilots, flight engineer, electrician, navigator, radio operator & 2 loadmasters)
Capacity: 15000kg (33000lb)
Length: 22.2m (72'9.6")
Rotor Diameter: 2x21m (68'10.8")
Height: 8m (2'3")
Weight: loaded - 59000kg (129800lb); max take-off - 63000kg (138600lb)
Powerplant: 2x GE38-1B turboshafts, 7500shp (5592.7kW) each
Freight compartment: 13.35m x 4.4m x 4.4m (43'9.6" x 14'6" x 14'6")
Armament: one M134 7.62mm minigun with 5000 rounds of ammunition.
Max speed: 262km/h (162.8mph)
Range: 511km (317.5mi)
Ceiling: 3535.68m (11600')

Variants: CH-25T (trainer; removes minigun), CH-25M (Medevac; carries 25 litters & 4 medics), SH-25 (maritime patrol; equipped with Ferranti Seagull radar, two stub wings (each with two 2000kg (4400lb) hardpoints for torpedoes, missiles, bombs, depth charges, etc.) and an AN/AQS-81B dipping sonar).

Price: $25 million per unit.

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To: Boris Rotorcraft

Dear Sir/Madam,

We thank you for your interest in the OVA. Your bid is currently being considered for the Heavy Utility Helicopter requirement. As per a governmental decision of 11-2-1971, all foreign bids shall be treated equal to Van Luxemburger bids, ensuring a fair evaluation.

Conform the guidelines set forward by the initial information on our webspace, we would like to have two CH-25 helicopters at our disposal for evaluation purposes. This should preferably happen on a borrowing or leasing basis, or, if both these options are not possible, the helicopters are to be bought at a price of $50 million USD.

Once again, we thank you for your interest,

Signed,
Brig. Fabrizio Guittare
Managing Director,
Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

Official OVA announcement
Requirement fulfilled by Kala River Arsenal Optics Development Group, Russkya

Requirement filled: Aiming devices for SIG SG55x series rifles
Contractor: Kala River Arsenal Optics Development Group (KRAORG), People's Socialist Republic of Russkya
Product: Kampfsichtgerät 2009 (Kfg-09)
Description:
Kampfsichtgerät 2009, 6.8x43mm

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Developed in the closing weeks of 2008, the Kampfsichtgerät 2009 (Kfg-09) fulfills a tender placed by the Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung for a replacement of the Trijicon ACOG combat optic in VL Arméi service. The high quality and quick development of the optic is directly due to the desire of Kala River Arsenal Optics Development Group (KRAORG) to expand further into the global market - the Kfg-09 is based on a well proven combat sight in service with the Russkyan Army, equipped with a reticule graded to use Arméi specified 6.8x43mm ammunition.

Kfg-09 is designed to be fitted to NATO-standard attachment rails, though alternate bases are available to adapt the optic to rail systems such as the Aequatian Lazlo III Universal. The reticule features a range scale based on a 1.75m high target on a sloping scale, providing quick and accurate ranging to a distance of five hundred meters (500m). A 1 MOA dot is placed on the top of the aiming chevron stack, for use between 0-100m. The uppermost chevron is for use on targets from 100-200m, the second from 200-300m, the third from 300-400m, and the final chevron is used to engage targets at 400-500m distance, considered to be the maximum effective range of the FAM-87 SIG-550 derivative when employed against a point target. The sight is over-engineered to sustain stronger recoil forces or sustained recoil forces, to permit the VL Arméi to mount the optic to weapons such as the FN MINIMI or FN MAG/58.

The optic's housing consists of hammer forged steel with a matte black finish. Special considerations, aside from high-quality Russkyan coated prismatic optics glass used in the lenses, include large diameter lens tubes. This allows the Kfg-09 superior light-gathering to comparable optics, thus providing for a cleaner image at all ranges and improved low-light function. The optic is compact and interoperable with all modern personal night vision equipment. Careful construction of the housing and appropriate use of gaskets where necessary, for instance at the base of the elevation and windage knobs, creates an effectively waterproofed sight. Kampfsichtgerät 2009 will not fog under any field conditions due to dry nitrogen purging, boasting an operating temperature range of -45 degrees Centigrade to +50 degrees Centigrade. In order to provide excellent low-light operability while remaining true to the Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung tender, KRAORG chose to illuminate the targeting and rangefinding stadia with a red tritrium insert, maintaining the battery-free requirement. The tritrium insert is photosensitive, activating only in low light conditions.

The optic provides a magnification of 4.5x with a field of view of twelve degrees. Inclusion of elevation and windage knobs allows the operator to adjust the weapon's sights as needed quickly and easily; they are easily finger-adjustable with distinct adjustment clicks. Dimensions are 140x95x65mm, weight of 0.43kg.

The operator could, should the Kfg-09 be fitted to a weapon chambering ammunition other than 6.8x43mm, adjust the point of aim to match the zero of his weapon. However, the targeting stadia would not be effective unless the ballistics of that weapon's calibre closely matched those of 6.8x43mm. The rangefinding stadia would remain effective to accurately measure range to target, as they are independent of the ballistics of a given cartridge + weapon combination.

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Signed,

Brig. Fabrizio Guittare
Managing Director,
Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

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To: Boris Rotorcraft

Dear Sir/Madam,

We thank you for your interest in the OVA. Your bid is currently being considered for the Heavy Utility Helicopter requirement. As per a governmental decision of 11-2-1971, all foreign bids shall be treated equal to Van Luxemburger bids, ensuring a fair evaluation.

Conform the guidelines set forward by the initial information on our webspace, we would like to have two CH-25 helicopters at our disposal for evaluation purposes. This should preferably happen on a borrowing or leasing basis, or, if both these options are not possible, the helicopters are to be bought at a price of $50 million USD.

Once again, we thank you for your interest,

Signed,
Brig. Fabrizio Guittare
Managing Director,
Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

To: Brig. Fabrizio Guittare, Managing Director, OVA
From: Boris Rotorcraft
Re: Evaluation

We are prepared to deliver two CH-25 helicopters for you to borrow for evaluation purposes. They will be at your testing grounds, with four of our technicians to provide maintenance and training, in three weeks' time. You will not be charged for them unless you decide to adopt the helicopter, in which case you will be charged $50 million USD for those two helicopters (which will be deducted from the cost of the domestic production license).

The ASoGM is interested in purchasing all 120,000 of the SIG SG540 assault rifles, and will wire the $21,600,000 when our order is confirmed.

[OOC: I may have a fair VTOL-capable multirole fighter in a few days, if you're willing to wait]

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To: ASoGM

Dear Sir/Madam,

We thank you for your interest in the surplus goods of the Van Luxemburger Armed Forces. The SIG SG540 is an excellent rifle, and the rifles are in perfect working order, regardless of them having been used for a number of years.

However, we are afraid that we will have to refuse your request. Seeing we have done a background check on your nation, we see several reasons why we should not sell these rifles. From what we know, Individuals in your nations have been involved in the illegal trade of nuclear weaponry, and we have reasons to believe that our rifles, if they are to be sold to the Guns Manufacturers, will be resold at higher prices to other nations, limiting our ability to control who will eventually be buying our weapons.

Therefore, the OVA and the Ministry of Defence have decided not to allow this arms trade to continue. Your request for the purchase of 120,000 military-grade rifles is hereby denied.

Once again, we thank you for your interest,

Signed,
Brig. Fabrizio Guittare
Managing Director,
Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

(OOC: Antigr, even if it were February of next year. My Harriers are still in operation and their replacement is not very urgent.)

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To: ASoGM

Dear Sir/Madam,

We thank you for your interest in the surplus goods of the Van Luxemburger Armed Forces. The SIG SG540 is an excellent rifle, and the rifles are in perfect working order, regardless of them having been used for a number of years.

However, we are afraid that we will have to refuse your request. Seeing we have done a background check on your nation, we see several reasons why we should not sell these rifles. From what we know, Individuals in your nations have been involved in the illegal trade of nuclear weaponry, and we have reasons to believe that our rifles, if they are to be sold to the Guns Manufacturers, will be resold at higher prices to other nations, limiting our ability to control who will eventually be buying our weapons.

Therefore, the OVA and the Ministry of Defence have decided not to allow this arms trade to continue. Your request for the purchase of 120,000 military-grade rifles is hereby denied.

Once again, we thank you for your interest,

Signed,
Brig. Fabrizio Guittare
Managing Director,
Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

(OOC: Antigr, even if it were February of next year. My Harriers are still in operation and their replacement is not very urgent.)

The ASoGM has not ever been in the nuclear weapons trade. We have been accused, with no proof whatsoever, by another nation of being an unwitting host to an illegal nuclear weapons auction, but we have found no evidence, and have been provided no evidence of such claims.


OOC: The nuclear arms auction was run by a criminal organization in the ASoGM, unaffiliated with the government. No concrete evidence was ever put forth to the ASoGM government that the auction took place here. The only concrete evidence that the ASoGM has about any incident is a large scale terrorist attack by 42 members of a Special Forces team, resulting in all but 7 of them killed, and numerous law enforcement members killed or wounded. Beyond The Aaronian Empire the ASoGM, and Ustio North (who had an agent there, but was killed), no nation has evidence of anything having happened here.

OOC: Bump to see if you'd reconsidered, due to my last post.

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ANTIGRAN MILITARY TRANSMISSION
The United Kingdom of Antigr


To: Whom it May Concern,
Ministry of Defence,
Boulevard 5. Mee 1945 110,
L-10000,
Luxembourg,
VAN LUXEMBURG
From: Nils Wiklander, AAS Joint Storefront


Sir,

My name is Nils Wiklander and I represent the Antigran Armament Systems Joint Storefront, responsible for all Antigran military trade and export under the Ministry of Defence and His Majesty the King. Regarding the requiem for a carrier-based naval VTOL-capable multirole fighter, I hereby submit the D5E Brigand Multirole Fighter, full details of which can be found here. (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?showtopic=5149)
It is versatile and carrier-capable, the export variant of the D5D, and can carry said munitions as stated in the requirement. While, by policy, I cannot allow domestic procurement, a number of examples are ready to be shipped at the prices detailed in the writeup. Thank you for your consideration.

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To: Nils Wiklander, AAS Joint Storefront

Dear Sir,

We thank you for your interest in the OVA. Your bid is currently being considered for the Naval VSTOL multirole fighter jet requirement. As per a governmental decision of 11-2-1971, all foreign bids shall be treated equal to Van Luxemburger bids, ensuring a fair evaluation.

Conform the guidelines set forward by the initial information on our webspace, we would like to have two D5E Brigand fighters at our disposal for evaluation purposes, together with two D5E-3 two-seater variants and one D5E-5 trainer. This should preferably happen on a borrowing or leasing basis, or, if both these options are not possible, the aircraft are to be bought at a total price of $479.3 million USD.

Once again, we thank you for your interest,

Signed,
Brig. Fabrizio Guittare
Managing Director,
Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

(OOC: ASoGM, as long as the OVA has it's doubts, the trade will not go through, I don't think they will change their minds very quickly.)

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ANTIGRAN MILITARY TRANSMISSION
The United Kingdom of Antigr


To: Whom it May Concern,
Ministry of Defence,
Boulevard 5. Mee 1945 110,
L-10000,
Luxembourg,
VAN LUXEMBURG
From: Nils Wiklander, AAS Joint Storefront


Sir,

We are very pleased with the consideration of our manufacture, and, as a token to the newfound friendship between our two nations, you may expect free rapid delivery of the five aircraft, on an indefinite loan basis, by air transport. The wings will not be attached, but shall be shipped (complete) and can be reassembled onto the aircraft with basic tools and a normal ground crew. I can only thank you again for your consideration.

The Colony of Antarctic Gunsmiths is interested in purchasing the SIG SG540 assault rifles for our police special services teams, as your surplus price is cheaper than manufacturing new Sig SG540s. We can wire $21.6 million to your accounts if our offer is accepted. Any questions or communications you have regarding the transaction can be directed to the Police Commissioners Board, located in Aptenodytes.

To: Brig. Fabrizio Guittare, Managing Director Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.
From: Police Commissioners Board, Colony of Antarctic Gunsmiths
Re: offer to buy weapons

The Colony of Antarctic Gunsmiths would like to have an answer to its offer to buy the SIG SG540 assault rifles.

M.A.C Heavy Industries | Defense

We wish to purchase all of your surplus stock.

We also wish to inquire if you wish to buy any of our surplus equipment at very discounted prices.

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Funds shall be wired upon confirmation of order.

For any inquiries please contact us:

Link To Storefront: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=561695&highlight=heavy+industries

M.A.C Direct Line: 21-456-3450

M.A.C@DefenseNet.Agle

Thank you,

M.A.C Heavy Industries Defense Management.

OOC: Bump.

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To: M.A.C. Heavy Industries, Anghele

Dear Sir,

We thank you for your interest in the OVA. Our current policy is to refuse sales of surplus inventory to defence firms, regardless of nationality. Our equipment is available solely to government authorities such as armed forces or law enforcement agencies.

Currently, the Ministry of Defence is only looking for new equipment, not surplus equipment already used by another nation. Seeing our reputation as a sophisticated military force, it is unlikely we will ever purchase surplus stock.

Once again, we thank you for your interest,

Signed,
Brig. Fabrizio Guittare
Managing Director,
Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

(OOC: ASoGM, using a puppet won't make me change my mind. Even though Antarctic Gunsmiths may have a clean reputation, I do not take lightly on a thing called puppetwanking. Thank you.)

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To: M.A.C. Heavy Industries, Anghele

Dear Sir,

We thank you for your interest in the OVA. Our current policy is to refuse sales of surplus inventory to defence firms, regardless of nationality. Our equipment is available solely to government authorities such as armed forces or law enforcement agencies.

Currently, the Ministry of Defence is only looking for new equipment, not surplus equipment already used by another nation. Seeing our reputation as a sophisticated military force, it is unlikely we will ever purchase surplus stock.

Once again, we thank you for your interest,

Signed,
Brig. Fabrizio Guittare
Managing Director,
Organisatioun Verdeedegungsausrüstung.

(OOC: ASoGM, using a puppet won't make me change my mind. Even though Antarctic Gunsmiths may have a clean reputation, I do not take lightly on a thing called puppetwanking. Thank you.)

OOC: Antarctic Gunsmiths is a completely separate entity, with only a shared past. There is no puppetwanking going on here. If you allow the weapons to be purchased by Antarctic Gunsmiths, they are NOT going to the ASoGM. They would be remaining in Antarctic Gunsmiths for the purpose I stated before.

(OOC: In a previous thread made by Antarctic Gunsmiths you stated that it was a puppet of the ASoGM. I'm not interested in selling anything I have lying around to people who utilise puppets if they can't procure it with their main nation. And before this changes to a semi-OOC thread, I do not want to pursue the matter any further here. If you really feel the need to start an argument about this, please take it to TG's.)

(OOC: In a previous thread made by Antarctic Gunsmiths you stated that it was a puppet of the ASoGM. I'm not interested in selling anything I have lying around to people who utilise puppets if they can't procure it with their main nation. And before this changes to a semi-OOC thread, I do not want to pursue the matter any further here. If you really feel the need to start an argument about this, please take it to TG's.)

OOC: Telegram sent.

Anghele Ministry Of Defense
Newspeak: MiniPax

The Anghele Ministry Of Defense wishes to purchase all of your surplus stock.

We ask for the delivery to be made in the Praetor Port in NewPraetoria.

And by the way,we know that you refused to sell to one of our defense corporations,M.A.C Defense,we just wanted to explain that M.A.C Defense is partly owned by us,and they take care of most arms purchases for the Anghele Armed forces.

They buy the equipment,bring it to Anghele and then deliver it to us.

Funds await confirmation of order.

Thank you,

Albert Chambers,Anghele Ministry Of Defense.

Newspeak:Abert,MiniPax