NationStates Jolt Archive

A member of the Soviet Commonwealth allows foreign corporations on its soil. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=570446) Fascist nations threaten a nation taking the steps necessary to fight radicalism. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=575461) Capitalists of the world mock warnings of their impending doom. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=576093) As I look at these and the countless other incidents in recent times, I cannot but think that the Communist movement has fallen. Look upon this world, ye "champions of Socialism," and despair.

Inaction has reduced workers the world over to mere wage slaves, ground beneath the heel of the industrialist machine until naught but meticulously crafted human machines. Is the proletariat to be so despised that he wanders homeless in his own nation? Should we allow the unproductive Capitalist to dictate to us the reasons he should be rewarded with the fruits of our labors? Are we so weak in our convictions as to bow down to the Imperialist, licking its boots so as to avoid total domination?

I say nay! It is but child's play to demonstrate these evils, yet time and again those who purport Socialism allow such evils to continue unhindered. There is no will, there is no spine! The conviction of the greater Leftist movement has declined into a pathetic farce, dreaming of "peaceful coexistence" with forces that declare open warfare against the Worker and Peasant!

The "Left Wing Democracies" tiptoe about, accepting endless evils in the name of "multiculturalism" and "moderation," never once stopping to consider the evils within their own bordes, much less around them. The "Socialists" cling desperately to those last few trappings of Capitalism, unable to stand with conviction and state "I am a Communist!" Where is the spirit of revolution that freed my nation from the oppressive Corrantain government? Where is the love of Humanity; the mutual embrace of man and his neighbor known as Communism? Where is the forcefulness of will that allowed the myriad advances we have achieved? Have they vanished from the surface of the Earth?

Those nations proud enough to proclaim themselves as champions of Communist thought and Collectivist philosophy are too few in number to stand against the endless tide of McCarthyist extremists and Anti-Communist activists. The ignorant hordes press in from all sides, threatening to topple the last bastions of hope in this dark world. The moral and ethical giants stand against the hordes unafraid, but cognizant that they cannot stand against so many forever.

The global movement has fractured. We are allowing the weak and decadent to run existing institutions into nothingness, crippling Liberation movements the world over. This must be stopped! The global movement must once again be restored to its rightful place: the forefront of everything. We must work tirelessly to liberate and educate the masses, while exterminating their oppressors.

Therefore, I call upon the willing and the competent to join with myself and others from the Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics in the creation of a grand new Alliance: the Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism. We are unstoppable, and will be victorious! Join and aid in the struggle against the Bourgeoisie. We shall roll back Capitalism's advances and expand to workers everywhere the ownership of the means of production so vital for their continued survival.

The worker shall overcome, comrades!

-Aleksandra Gorbachova, Premier of the Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics




The Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism
(first draft)

Article I.
Hereby authorizes the creation of the Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism and states its singular goal: the extermination of inferior socioeconomic policies from the planet in favor of Collectivism.

Article II.
Hereby establishes membership requirements as follows:
1. Rejection and extermination of all Laissez-Faire ideologies and programs within the member nation.
2. Devotion to the expansion of Collectivism through any and all means necessary for the liberation of the worker.
3. Unfailing devotion to the Collectivist Philosophy.
4. Approval of the majority of members.
5. Strict adherence to the stipulations of the Alliance.
6. Complete cooperation with the other member states in the extermination of inferior ideologies and the expansion of Collectivism.

Article III.
Hereby forbids aggression between member states, and authorizes the unilateral suppression of states attacking member states, regardless of their affiliation. Justified action against a member state must be approved by a majority of member states.

Article IV.
Hereby authorizes the excessive use of unilateral force against bastions of Imperialist, Industrialist, Bourgeois and Capitalist thought.

Article V.
Hereby establishes an organization for the oversight of the APOC, henceforth known as the APOC Council. Details of this council shall be hammered out between the various member states.

Article VI.
Hereby lists member states:
The Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics
The Republic of Fatahland
The Democratic People's Republic of Murra
The Universal Government of North Calaveras

As well as states with observer status:
The Republic of Maharerland

While the Indian Soviet Commonwealth of Beddgelert holds that, "excessive" anything is, obviously, excessive and not to be encouraged, the Soviet Commune otherwise agrees in principle with the Eurasian aim.

However, keen Igovians point to the Calcutta Communist Contract Organisation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=551988) in an effort to stimulate debate and perhaps co-operation.

As Adiatorix and his hawkish allies find their voice strengthened in Beddgelert, the confrontational rhetoric of the proposed Eurasian alliance is generally well received. Raipur does not tender an application, but suggests that perhaps a gap-bridging association may be negotiated.

Signed: Kash Wilson: National Communist Party of Calaveras

A member of the Soviet Commonwealth allows foreign corporations on its soil. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=570446) Fascist nations threaten a nation taking the steps necessary to fight radicalism. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=575461) Capitalists of the world mock warnings of their impending doom. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=576093) As I look at these and the countless other incidents in recent times, I cannot but think that the Communist movement has fallen. Look upon this world, ye "champions of Socialism," and despair.

Inaction has reduced workers the world over to mere wage slaves, ground beneath the heel of the industrialist machine until naught but meticulously crafted human machines. Is the proletariat to be so despised that he wanders homeless in his own nation? Should we allow the unproductive Capitalist to dictate to us the reasons he should be rewarded with the fruits of our labors? Are we so weak in our convictions as to bow down to the Imperialist, licking its boots so as to avoid total domination?

I say nay! It is but child's play to demonstrate these evils, yet time and again those who purport Socialism allow such evils to continue unhindered. There is no will, there is no spine! The conviction of the greater Leftist movement has declined into a pathetic farce, dreaming of "peaceful coexistence" with forces that declare open warfare against the Worker and Peasant!

The "Left Wing Democracies" tiptoe about, accepting endless evils in the name of "multiculturalism" and "moderation," never once stopping to consider the evils within their own bordes, much less around them. The "Socialists" cling desperately to those last few trappings of Capitalism, unable to stand with conviction and state "I am a Communist!" Where is the spirit of revolution that freed my nation from the oppressive Corrantain government? Where is the love of Humanity; the mutual embrace of man and his neighbor known as Communism? Where is the forcefulness of will that allowed the myriad advances we have achieved? Have they vanished from the surface of the Earth?

Those nations proud enough to proclaim themselves as champions of Communist thought and Collectivist philosophy are too few in number to stand against the endless tide of McCarthyist extremists and Anti-Communist activists. The ignorant hordes press in from all sides, threatening to topple the last bastions of hope in this dark world. The moral and ethical giants stand against the hordes unafraid, but cognizant that they cannot stand against so many forever.

The global movement has fractured. We are allowing the weak and decadent to run existing institutions into nothingness, crippling Liberation movements the world over. This must be stopped! The global movement must once again be restored to its rightful place: the forefront of everything. We must work tirelessly to liberate and educate the masses, while exterminating their oppressors.

Therefore, I call upon the willing and the competent to join with myself and others from the Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics in the creation of a grand new Alliance: the Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism. We are unstoppable, and will be victorious! Join and aid in the struggle against the Bourgeoisie. We shall roll back Capitalism's advances and expand to workers everywhere the ownership of the means of production so vital for their continued survival.

The worker shall overcome, comrades!

-Aleksandra Gorbachova, Premier of the Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics




The Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism
(first draft)

Article I.
Hereby authorizes the creation of the Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism and states its singular goal: the extermination of inferior socioeconomic policies from the planet in favor of Collectivism.

Article II.
Hereby establishes membership requirements as follows:
1. Rejection and extermination of all Laissez-Faire ideologies and programs within the member nation.
2. Devotion to the expansion of Collectivism through any and all means necessary for the liberation of the worker.
3. Unfailing devotion to the Collectivist Philosophy.
4. Approval of the majority of members.
5. Strict adherence to the stipulations of the Alliance.
6. Complete cooperation with the other member states in the extermination of inferior ideologies and the expansion of Collectivism.

Article III.
Hereby forbids aggression between member states, and authorizes the unilateral suppression of states attacking member states, regardless of their affiliation. Justified action against a member state must be approved by a majority of member states.

Article IV.
Hereby authorizes the excessive use of unilateral force against bastions of Imperialist, Industrialist, Bourgeois and Capitalist thought.

Article V.
Hereby establishes an organization for the oversight of the APOC, henceforth known as the APOC Council. Details of this council shall be hammered out between the various member states.

Article VI.
Hereby lists member states:
The Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics

To the Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism:
From the Meritocracy of South Lizasauria.

We come before you to request aid for isolated South Lizasaurianic peoples who have not yet joined the Meritocratic union have been exploited after a series of cataclysmic events. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14297003#post14297003)Among these groups are communists. Both fascist and communist militias were able to hijack these isolated pockets and conquer some South Lizasaurianic states that haven't joined the Meritocratic union states, as a result we now face fascist and communist separatists. As the days go on it looks like there maybe another civil war. With support the conflic could be cut short which in turn will save lives in the long run.

A member of the Soviet Commonwealth allows foreign corporations on its soil. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=570446) Fascist nations threaten a nation taking the steps necessary to fight radicalism. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=575461) Capitalists of the world mock warnings of their impending doom. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=576093) As I look at these and the countless other incidents in recent times, I cannot but think that the Communist movement has fallen. Look upon this world, ye "champions of Socialism," and despair.

Inaction has reduced workers the world over to mere wage slaves, ground beneath the heel of the industrialist machine until naught but meticulously crafted human machines. Is the proletariat to be so despised that he wanders homeless in his own nation? Should we allow the unproductive Capitalist to dictate to us the reasons he should be rewarded with the fruits of our labors? Are we so weak in our convictions as to bow down to the Imperialist, licking its boots so as to avoid total domination?

I say nay! It is but child's play to demonstrate these evils, yet time and again those who purport Socialism allow such evils to continue unhindered. There is no will, there is no spine! The conviction of the greater Leftist movement has declined into a pathetic farce, dreaming of "peaceful coexistence" with forces that declare open warfare against the Worker and Peasant!

The "Left Wing Democracies" tiptoe about, accepting endless evils in the name of "multiculturalism" and "moderation," never once stopping to consider the evils within their own bordes, much less around them. The "Socialists" cling desperately to those last few trappings of Capitalism, unable to stand with conviction and state "I am a Communist!" Where is the spirit of revolution that freed my nation from the oppressive Corrantain government? Where is the love of Humanity; the mutual embrace of man and his neighbor known as Communism? Where is the forcefulness of will that allowed the myriad advances we have achieved? Have they vanished from the surface of the Earth?

Those nations proud enough to proclaim themselves as champions of Communist thought and Collectivist philosophy are too few in number to stand against the endless tide of McCarthyist extremists and Anti-Communist activists. The ignorant hordes press in from all sides, threatening to topple the last bastions of hope in this dark world. The moral and ethical giants stand against the hordes unafraid, but cognizant that they cannot stand against so many forever.

The global movement has fractured. We are allowing the weak and decadent to run existing institutions into nothingness, crippling Liberation movements the world over. This must be stopped! The global movement must once again be restored to its rightful place: the forefront of everything. We must work tirelessly to liberate and educate the masses, while exterminating their oppressors.

Therefore, I call upon the willing and the competent to join with myself and others from the Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics in the creation of a grand new Alliance: the Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism. We are unstoppable, and will be victorious! Join and aid in the struggle against the Bourgeoisie. We shall roll back Capitalism's advances and expand to workers everywhere the ownership of the means of production so vital for their continued survival.

The worker shall overcome, comrades!

-Aleksandra Gorbachova, Premier of the Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics




The Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism
(first draft)

Article I.
Hereby authorizes the creation of the Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism and states its singular goal: the extermination of inferior socioeconomic policies from the planet in favor of Collectivism.

Article II.
Hereby establishes membership requirements as follows:
1. Rejection and extermination of all Laissez-Faire ideologies and programs within the member nation.
2. Devotion to the expansion of Collectivism through any and all means necessary for the liberation of the worker.
3. Unfailing devotion to the Collectivist Philosophy.
4. Approval of the majority of members.
5. Strict adherence to the stipulations of the Alliance.
6. Complete cooperation with the other member states in the extermination of inferior ideologies and the expansion of Collectivism.

Article III.
Hereby forbids aggression between member states, and authorizes the unilateral suppression of states attacking member states, regardless of their affiliation. Justified action against a member state must be approved by a majority of member states.

Article IV.
Hereby authorizes the excessive use of unilateral force against bastions of Imperialist, Industrialist, Bourgeois and Capitalist thought.

Article V.
Hereby establishes an organization for the oversight of the APOC, henceforth known as the APOC Council. Details of this council shall be hammered out between the various member states.

Article VI.
Hereby lists member states:
The Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics

While we have nothing against those nations that have a Collectivist agenda, the ASoGM feels that Collectivism isn't for us. This was recently proven when we had our latest elections, with the Socialist party's percentage dropping from 10% to 9% this time around, meaning they lost 5 General Ministers. Referencing Article IV, any attempts by this coalition to forcibly convert the ASoGM to this ideology will be met with appropriate force.

Semi-Official Statement

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The Realm does hereby publically denounce this pathetic excuse of an "alliance" (read: evil totalitarian feudal overlordship wrapped in a even uglier package) that is the deranged ravings of the two absinthe-pimping lumpenproles we know as Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

Any nation-state that profess to be based upon these lunacies does not in the opinion of the Realm deserve the right to exist, and the Realm shall be more than happy to oblidge said nation-states' wishes of ending their miserable existance in a hellish firestorm of epic thermonuclear proportions.

The imbecilical communist nation-states that decide to join this sorry excuse of a "alliance" should be aware that they are closely watched, and that even the slightest slip-up will have dire consequences for you. Keep this in mind and rethink whether or not you think communism is the proper ideology for you.

That said, have a not-so-nice day.


Signed,

Third Under-Secretary for the Mistress of the Ninth Under-Secretary of the Eleventh Department Head's Junior Aide of the Chief for Office 64686 (Kommunistiske Hendelser Utenfor Cottisk Interessesfære)
Royal Ministry for the Defense of the Realm and Its People and Its Interests Beyond the Sovereign and Sacred Borders of the Realm of Cotland

TO: APOC
From: Office of the FCP

While we believe in a nation's right to determine it's government. We draw the line when the nation declares it's wishes to bring this government to our nations via force or other means. It is the right of a nation to determine it's course, without interference from other states. This alliance goes against that principle of self-determination. We show great distrust in this alliance and it's goals.

We will be watching this organization and it's members and the activities it wishes to engage in. We hope that you see the error in your ways before it's too late to change them.

Signed,
Robert Fallaski, Jr.
General Secretary of the Federal Communist Party
Acting Under-Secretary for Socialist and Communist Affairs for the Office of the Federal Secretary of State for the Liberal Democratic Republic of Wolfenhalle and the Commonwealths.

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To: [Open Communication]
From: Office of the President
Subj: APOC formation

The proliferation of any ideology forcibly onto fellow nations is always cause for concern, yet as I glance over the charter for APOC, I find myself genuinely frightened. Several articles (Article I, Article II.2, Article II.6, Article IV) openly advocate war with innocent nations, and let it be known that any nation unjustly attacked by this band of warmongers calling themselves an "alliance" will be aided by the Oceanic Defense Coalition.

Cordially,
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Evan Bachmeier
President of the Oceanic Defense Coalition

OOC Disclaimer: Nodea Rudav is a province in Anagonia, henceforth not used for any military or economic purposes unless authorized by two parties in a role play. Therefore, the following statement is intended to show the unity of the Three Provinces of Anagonia, and allow a sovereign aspect to its United Republic.

From the Desk of the Soviet Premier
The Glorious Soviet Socialist Republics of Nodea Rudav

TO: Our Comrades in Arms
FROM: Soviet Premier Dimitri Vladinchi

Comrades, Brothers, Sisters, and Brethren all.

I admire your resolution to continue a revolution so outstanding, that neither time nor history can destroy its cause. It is with this admiration that I praise your efforts, and wish you the best of intentions and luck in the furtherance of your goal. Let it be known, However, that there is one Glorious Soviet Empire still standing today that has evolved beyond the mere communist agenda and grown into the caring of its People. Despite the Revolutions of our History, our past battles with Imperialism and Capitalism, and our constant struggle for recognition as a rightful state, we have seen the folly of our ways and laid down our arms for the betterment of the Human Race. We have seen what racial, cultural, and economic wars have brought to our Glorious Region, and known for a long time that such a Communist way of life cannot bring profit nor happiness to our People.

This is not to say, my Brethren, that we have given up Our Glorious Revolution. No, it is yet to say that we have evolved, we have grown, and we have matured beyond petty wars and bickering and embraced a more Democratic, a more Representative, a More Prosperous way of life. Once upon a time we were on the edge of oblivion, our economy having no way to gain any monetary gain because of the Communist Agenda, our people suffering and starving because the Government could not support its People, our military slowly degrading to the laughing-stock of the world. It was during these times that the Glorious Soviet Empire of Nodea Rudav embraced the governing styles of its neighbor in Anagonia, and saw with disbelief as our nemesis in the Imperial Drekamythian Empire turned around and became a strong super power. We followed suit, we reformed, we evolved in our Glorious Revolution. We became, as all three once enemies, Comrade Brethren in a Democratic, Representative, Sovereign and Independent United Republic. Under the Anagonian Banner we have lost nothing of our cultural and historical heritage, yet have gained valuable brothers and sisters to sustain our way of existence. We became something new, something wonderful, a Soviet Empire that could support its people at the same time as supporting a first rate military powerhouse. Our economy flourishes to this day, and we have never looked back.

I say these words to you because it is important for any Communist Brethren to realize that the Government MUST come last. The People, the true Revolution, the Bringers of Change and Paradise to any Land, must come first. If the People are happy, the Government is happy, and the Economy becomes a Glorious Representation of the Nation as a whole. You must not throw away the ideals of Capitalism, or Imperialism, or even the Communist Agenda. Instead, you must evolve beyond them, embrace them as guiding posts, and look forward to a more Democratic way of life. Once this is achieved, all things are possible, and the People will support you in all your ways. Indeed, this is the True Goal of the Revolution! To have the People behind you, prosperous and content, so that the Nation can grow into a beacon of hope for all the lost souls around the world.

My words are but my own, and I share them as truth to you. Our revolution continues unhindered, and our people are happy and content. Our People represent themselves, and take control of their destiny while their government protects them, and nurtures their personal revolution so that they may continue the Original Revolution. This is what makes Nations Great, and this is a secret I share with you now. Prosper your people instead of making them Submit. Encourage their dreams instead of forcing yours upon them. Make them the Beacon of Hope that will encourage all nations to follow, instead of invading those nations and shattering the hopes of millions of souls. If you fight, fight with honor and dignity, fight with the Revolution. Do not fight to kill the foreign revolutions of the world, do not fight to dominate the globe. Do not kill because your people say some things wrong about the government, do not punish because your people do not approve of a legislation. Instead.....evolve, grow, and mature beyond these things to allow the Glorious Revolution to take root. When this happens, the People shall realize without the Governments help that all things can come together, and that this Revolution, your revolution, is truly the one last best hope for Humanity.

Good luck my Comrade Brethren, and May your Revolution be wonderful and without bloodshed.

Sincerely,
Soviet Premier Dimitri Vladinchi
Premier of the Soviet Socialist Republics of Nodea Rudav

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THE CENTRAL STATE OF AGRANDOV
Official Communication from the Central Ministry

The Central State refutes any legitimacy that this conglomerate of the criminally insane has claimed. The Alliance for the Proliferation Of Communism is a supra-national engine of oppression of hard-working individuals, and its activities will not be tolerated. This "organisation" of collectivist kleptomaniacs is nothing more than an attempt to manipulate the poorly-educated for the personal political gains of a corrupt oligarchy, taking advantage of destitute states to line the pockets of a hypocritical elite.

APOC is hereby declared a terrorist organisation by the Central State, and is therefore an illegal group in the controlled territories of Agrandov, New Droskev and BullHornia. Armed personnel acting on behalf of APOC will not be subject to the merciful Agrandan Prisoner of War legislation regardless of uniform, and confirmed sympathisers of this alliance will be terminated on sight in any of the colonial territories. Any individuals known to have ties to APOC will be denied entry into Agrandov or the colonies.

Should any socialist belligerence arise from APOC then the Central State will have no hesitation in crushing this upstart alliance.


Signed from the Central Ministry, in the name of the Emperor of Agrandov,

Prime Minister Thomas Byrne, PhD.

OOC: Interesting, this Alliance shares an acronym with the anti-communist organisation called 'The Alliance for the Preservation Of Civilization' (which may or may not be dead... I have not been keeping track).

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OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
FREE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF MURRA

Greetings, comrade! The Free Democratic People's Socialist Republic of Murra, a longstanding Communist nation (and proud to be so, to boot!), humbly wishes to apply to join this glorious alliance. Its goals and principles are the noblest yet put to paper by any national leader in an aeon, and we salute you, Comrade Gorbachova, for realizing the impotence of the fascist oppressors despite all their talk of crushing true freedom throughout the world.

Needless to say, we pledge our full economic, political, and military might towards the goals of this pact, the defence of all those who might join it as members, and the destruction of all those who defy it. To the foreign leaders who treat APOC with scorn, I say, ha! Today you laugh. Tomorrow, when your workers too have joined the Eternal Revolution and left your exploitative economies bankrupt, you will weep bitter tears.

Alexei V. Kosugin
Chairman of the Murran Communist Party and Senior Commissar for Trade, Defence, Foreign Affairs, Diplomacy, AAA Batteries, Environmental Conservation, Making Sure The Trains Run On Time, Invective, Propaganda, Truth, and Poorly Subtitled Movies

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OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
FREE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF MURRA

Greetings, comrade! The Free Democratic People's Socialist Republic of Murra, a longstanding Communist nation (and proud to be so, to boot!), humbly wishes to apply to join this glorious alliance. Its goals and principles are the noblest yet put to paper by any national leader in an aeon, and we salute you, Comrade Gorbachova, for realizing the impotence of the fascist oppressors despite all their talk of crushing true freedom throughout the world.

Needless to say, we pledge our full economic, political, and military might towards the goals of this pact, the defence of all those who might join it as members, and the destruction of all those who defy it. To the foreign leaders who treat APOC with scorn, I say, ha! Today you laugh. Tomorrow, when your workers too have joined the Eternal Revolution and left your exploitative economies bankrupt, you will weep bitter tears.

Alexei V. Kosugin
Chairman of the Murran Communist Party and Senior Commissar for Trade, Defence, Foreign Affairs, Diplomacy, AAA Batteries, Environmental Conservation, Making Sure The Trains Run On Time, Invective, Propaganda, Truth, and Poorly Subtitled Movies

You call us oppressive, fascist, exploitative, and crushing true freedom, but then you wish to install a Collectivist regime in the ASoGM, against the wishes of 91% of its population. The ASoGM is ruled by the will of the people, and even the Socialists have a voice in the ASoGM General Ministry. The ASoGM is free enough, and while we accept advice from other nations, the GMian people do not at this time feel it is in their best interest to adopt a Communist model.

The precise economic sympathies of the fledgling government of President Festus "Big Sam" Basamgiri in the emerging Maharerland Republic remain less than entirely clear, but as the recently re-elected hero of the independence struggle moves against the wealthy white-dominated enclave of East Uftatsi (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=576132), rhetoric coming out of New Waterburg is clearly designed to win sympathy from the international left.

Basamgiri has said that he would like to send an observer to the proposed APC, perhaps only because he wishes to bring the Maharerland/East-Uftatsi situation to the attention of a potentially sympathetic audience.

To: The APC
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs

Let it be known that shall you make any attempt against our nation or our fellow Fascists, we (The Imperial Fascist Alliance) will not hesitate to react fully to protect our people and our interests, in which actions including drilling eyeballs out, prying kneecaps out with crowbars, large amounts of homicide, and the hanging of the headless, dismembered bodies of your leaders for the birds to pick at.

You have been warned. Heed the warning.

ooc:
apologies for being slow, lots of replies! Not many interested nations though, II communism seems to be kinda scarce.... No matter! Also, Red Tide, tis irony.

IC:
The last remnants of daylight still burned in the sky as I returned from the Party Congress. Reconstruction was proceeding wonderfully, and I had managed to convince several prominent members to come down in favor of a new public transportation initiative within the greater Marograd area, and there were several proposals for a grand bridge to the island of Corrante from the mainland. It had been a grand day, so one can imagine my pleasure upon seeing the vast international response to the APOC.

Capitalists, Communists, and every shade of political thought in between. Was it not glorious? The sheer audacity of thought, reared in the most varied of places! I could not help but be overjoyed, regardless of the inanity and depravity demonstrated. And there were several who had the courage to stand beside me on the brink of enlightenment to look out over the vast barbarism of Capitalism and tame it in the name of the worker. I pulled up my computer, and began to type, every word feeling as if from the muzzle of my MAS 49/56 from the revolution. Every syllable a battle for the worker, each period playing its inexorable role in the unstoppable march of Communism. The worker shall overcome!

A specter haunts our world. Its name is known to all: Communism. It frightens children to sleep in oppressive dictatorships, it is the ultimate insult in endless regions of the world, men have devoted their lives to combating its spread. Does this not demonstrate its power?

The Industrialist and Imperialist quiver at the mere suggestion of a Collectivist incursion into their pitiful domain. The Capitalist fears the erasing of all world borders, convinced that he will be unable to exploit the worker of a global community, only the ignorant peasant of a backwards nation. The military-industrial complex fears the end of nations creating an end of wars, removing the need for such a worthless industry in our time. But most of all, the Bourgeoisie fear the power of the Proletariat. They fear the strength of the masses so exploited the world over, they fear the violent backlash that shall occur in their brilliant liberation from their oppressors. They fear their deaths, and the deaths of all their conspirators in the endless class warfare of our time.

Let us give them reason to fear, Comrades! Chairman Kosugin, Premier Vladinchi, General Secretary Fallaski, Beddgelert, and Kash Wilson, hearken to my words! The Agrandovs and Cottish, the "Grand World Orders" and Leistungi, and all of their comrades at arms fear our strength! They fear the worker and the peasant! They cling to the trappings of power, and panic when met with the ultimate truth of their mortality. We shall tear down their exploitative socioeconomic fallacies and build up a new regime of the common man. We shall make the streets of their nations run red with the blood of Capitalist Pigs, killed in the same manner through which they endlessly slaughter wage slaves in their factories and mines.

Grand World Order, consider this your only warning. Allow for a bloodless revolution, and embrace the Reich of the working class. Failure to do so will result in your complete annihilation and the forced liberation of your populace. We shall overtake your pitiful defenses, we shall roll through your streets, and we shall tear down your false government. We will not stop until every last trace of Capitalist and Fascist exploitation is wiped off the face of this planet. Heed my words, Grand Commander.

-Aleksandra Gorbachova, Premier of the Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics

Official Statement by His Excellency, the Great and Mighty President Devin Jamison Fogarty

I find this organization(the Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism), and it's treaty to be intentionally inflammatory, with the goal of creating global strife, and violence. We find such actions, by nations that claim to have "the Worker's" best interests in mind, to be quite uncivilized. While the Paedocracy does not feel threatened by this treaty, as we are neither capitalist or fascist, we find it deplorable. If anything, international organizations should be formed with friendship, and brotherhood of all mankind in mind, not ideological rhetoric, and malicious intent. This will be just another tool that people will use against Communism.

Message from Comrade Glorious Leader of Fatahland

The Worker's Socialist Republic wishes to join this alliance.

OOC: As to your signature, don't worry--people on II have pretty thick skin, and you're an excellent writer. I highly doubt anyone will take offense.

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To: Aleksandra Gorbachova
From: Office of the Chancellor
Subj: Re: Open message to capitalist nations

Note that your organization has been placed on the Leistungi terror list as a supporter of terrorism and piracy. Any ships flying the flag of an APOC member-state in the Leistungi exclusion zone will be subject to boarding and seizure of assets, including but not limited to crew, monetary assets, weaponry, shipments of hazardous materials, and the vessel itself. We advise that you avoid Leistungi ships on the high seas, and we will do the same.

The previously mentioned exclusion zone is a 200 nautical mile zone around the Leistungi homeland in effect for hostile nations, and any APOC vessel crossing within 200 nautical miles of the Leistungi coast will be immediately fired upon and sunk without warning by vessels of the Leistungi Bundesmarine. Consider this a warning--the Federal Republic does not tolerate threats, no matter how hollow.

Sincerely,
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Gregor Ringkampf
Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Leistung

ooc:
apologies for being slow, lots of replies! Not many interested nations though, II communism seems to be kinda scarce.... No matter! Also, Red Tide, tis irony.

IC:
The last remnants of daylight still burned in the sky as I returned from the Party Congress. Reconstruction was proceeding wonderfully, and I had managed to convince several prominent members to come down in favor of a new public transportation initiative within the greater Marograd area, and there were several proposals for a grand bridge to the island of Corrante from the mainland. It had been a grand day, so one can imagine my pleasure upon seeing the vast international response to the APOC.

Capitalists, Communists, and every shade of political thought in between. Was it not glorious? The sheer audacity of thought, reared in the most varied of places! I could not help but be overjoyed, regardless of the inanity and depravity demonstrated. And there were several who had the courage to stand beside me on the brink of enlightenment to look out over the vast barbarism of Capitalism and tame it in the name of the worker. I pulled up my computer, and began to type, every word feeling as if from the muzzle of my MAS 49/56 from the revolution. Every syllable a battle for the worker, each period playing its inexorable role in the unstoppable march of Communism. The worker shall overcome!

OOC: I'm assuming this was broadcast in the open or sent to me as well.

IC: Defense Minister Jacob Smithfield received the latest communique from Eurasian Socialist Rep, and brought it to the President's office. He knocked on the door, then entered. Sitting at his desk was Peter Greene, recently elected President of the ASoGM. He handed the communique to Greene, and after allowing Greene to read it, asked, "Sir, what do you think we should do?". President Greene said, "Pull our battlegroups closer to the ASoGM, and keep an eye on the situation. If satellite surveillance picks up a fleet moving towards the ASoGM, we'll have to be ready to act. Also, step up security at the airports and docks. If it means hiring more people to keep the lines moving, then so be it. I'd like to avoid bloodshed, Jacob, but I will not allow foreign powers to countermand the will of the ASoGM people. The Rules of Engagement are, clear. We are not to fire unless fired upon". Minister Smithfield nodded, and left. Once back at his office, he ordered the ASoGM's naval assets closer to the ASoGM. He also had orders drafted postponing the leave of all of the ASoGM's military personnel. He hoped that he wouldn't have to issue that order, though. Satellite surveillance around the ASoGM's waters was stepped up, AWACS aircraft were pushed out farther from their normal patrols, and E-2D Hawkeye aircraft were launched from their respective carriers to provide even more radar coverage.

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Open Communication
Encryption Level Negatory
Might I be the first from the Shazbotdom Empire to say “wow” when it related to the formation of this “Alliance”. Using our wishes to expand our economic ties with Alliance and Foes alike, as well as foreign nations that we have yet to meet as a motivational tool to expand your ever dwindling warmongering “freedom loving” military. Last we checked here in the Shazbotdom Empire, freedom was not having to give yourself into servitude of any kind to any governmental body. Not being forced to join the military for any reason whatsoever, save for any type of massive world war requiring a draft. Not to give up your civil liberties for any reason. To not give up any of a persons Political Freedoms up and giving the control of their lives to a government that can or cannot be corrupt.

We here in the Shazbotdom Empire strive to better our lives by giving more and more freedoms to the individual, not taking them away at a whim. We have strived over the past 20+ years to give more and more freedoms to the people of our Empire, and that we have. Civil freedoms have gone up more than 60% since the mid 1990's, Political freedoms have gone up 56% and our people are making more than B$17 per Hour Starting in most professions. Shazbotdom University has become the thriving point for political debate within the Youth of our Nation and last year alone has had many of our young people graduate and move on to careers that they are very happy in. We technologically are well off. Giving way to Hexadecimal Computing Technology being developed in 2009 and our student scientists currently working on the development of Quantum Computing Technology, of which they are hoping to have that fully operational within the next 3 years.

We do not see why the leadership of the Eurasian Socialist Republic feels that they are threatened by us, as that would be the only reason that they would openly threaten us with war on multiple occasions. This would not be the first time they have pulled this little stunt off. This incessant warmongering of their leadership just shows that they are incapable of leading peaceful lives and are becoming more and more reliant upon War to prove that their nation is capable, which has come to slightly frighten us here in the Empire. Is the only way that their warmongering ways can finally be stopped would be the total and complete annihilation of their nation? Is this what their leadership is asking for by constantly threatening the use of war upon nations that are not part of their variant of “Socialism”? We pray that this is not the case and that their people need not suffer through a needless war just to prove that to their Government.

The Shazbodom Empire is hereby against this alliance, but not officially taking any military stance against them. We feel that hopefully their leadership will come to their senses and understand that military force is not the way to go to try and sway others to your cause.

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OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
FREE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF MURRA

To the ASoGM: You call your nation free and ruled by the people; indeed, so may many nations, should they choose. But it is not possible for a nation to be truly democratic that has not embraced Communism. The lives of all citizens in capitalist or fascist régimes are subject to the unpredictable whims and vicissitudes of corrupt executives, plutocrats, and oligarchs. Only under Communism, when the citizens themselves have equal voices in Government and Economy, can they be truly free. If your population claims not to desire a collectivist agenda, one must ask why they have "chosen" to so oppress themselves. The only possible explanation is that support of Capitalism and Fascism has been drilled into your population from such an early age that now they truly believe it, and the true Socialists that are undoubtedly far more numerous than your polls indicate are afraid to speak their minds for fear of retaliation. Surely an investigation will reveal anti-communist biases, subtle or overt, in your education system; in all forms of popular media and entertainment; in every aspect of your society. Such societies are far worse than simple dictatorships: for the people come to believe in their oppression that they are free, and denounce true freedom as oppression. Your kind shall be first against the wall when the Eternal Revolution reaches your remote corner of the globe, mark my words.

To the fascist Grand World Orders, the Leistungi, the others who denounce us, we fear you are lost causes. To the people of those nations, we can only urge you to open your eyes. See the evil of the governments oppressing and controlling every aspect of your lives, and rebel; bring the Eternal Revolution to your lands, and do not fear, for someday the forces of righteousness shall liberate you and bring your people into a new golden age.

Alexei V. Kosugin
Chairman of the Murran Communist Party and Senior Commissar for Trade, Diplomacy, Strategery, Foreign Affairs, Local Affairs, National Affairs, Sub-National Affairs, Supra-National Affairs, Affaires, Defence, Offence, and Midfielders

Official Statement from the Office of the Foreign Ministry to the Government of the Eurasian Socialist Republic

I am quite concerned to see the spectre of Marxism-Leninism to once again be rising over the world as it did years ago, before slowly collapsing under a tide of anti-democratic righteousness. We, the people of the Shahdom of the Parthians, are most disturbed, not only by your new cartel of Marxists, but also by your threat to spread your foul philosophy to the free peoples of this world.

I believe, given your behavior towards the Grand World Order, that this alliance may perhaps be the greatest threat to the security of the world and the Capitalist idea that currently exists. Given these facts, I hereby would like to make a small offer to your nation. Disband this alliance and withdraw your threats against the free world. Failure to do so, and I will be forced to consider 'other measures.'

You have been warned, think carefully before action is taken.

-Foreign Minister Sassan Savadkouhi

OOC: Does this alliance subscribe to a single school of thought within the Communist movement? I'm assuming it could be one of the anti-revisionist ones such as Stalinism.

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[TO] <Open Communication>
[FROM] The Neo-Prussian Dictatorship of Kampfers
[SUBJ] Re: Emergence of APOC

While normally I would lift my nose and steer my nation clear from the goings-on of the international community, this recent bustling of action concerning the Alliance for the Proliferation of Communism has perturbed me to the point that I feel obligated to react. While this alliance may stand contradictory to your nation's beliefs and aims, this in and of itself should be of no consequence. Just as I took no action when the Imperial Fascist Alliance was formed, I wish to do the same here. The world should note that the words expressed within the charter for APOC are simply that, words. In and of themselves, they contain no particular meeting. Yet, I find myself greeted by the sounds of one-thousand nations, warmongering and looking to provoke a war.

But for what cause? Surely it is not for the betterment of mankind, as even the so called "Grand World Order" has joined the cause. This leads me to believe it is either for personal gain, or for intense dislike of the communist agenda. While I too am against the communist agenda, there is one right that should not be breached except for in the most extreme scenarios. This right, national sovereignty, must be upheld. When war was declared by my father on Doomingsland, it was because an even grosser crime was being committed, that of the violation of the most base human rights. When the original APOC, the Alliance for the Preservation of Civilization, rallied against the hordes of Gholgoth, it was because of the atrocities committed at Foxbury Island. Each time the Kampferian Reich has gone to war, it has been with good cause. Today, however, these nations wish to attack with little cause at all. It is because of this that I hereby pledge the Kampferian Reich's aid to the Eurasian Socialist Republics. If Aleksandra Gorbachova does something of actual note, and truly threatens the security of an individual nation, then the Reich will step aside for that nation and let natural selection work its course. Until that day, however, the Kampferian Reich will stand in front of the Republic and her constituent states inside of APOC, shielding them from unwarranted attacks launched by nations seeking only to expand their personal wellbeing.

[SIGNED]
Mikel II von Kirhtrop
Führer of Kampfers
Head of the House of Richtoff
Supreme Commander of the Kampferian Armed Forces

Meanwhile, the Kampferian Third Fleet, currently patrolling the waters of Central Haven between Neu Prussia, Belacohenia, and New Tipperay, began to reorient itself toward its new posting off the coast of ESR. It would be a long journey, but it would put them there first, something that could not necessarily be said of any additional reinforcements that might be requested.

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To: APOC and all nations involved
From: Emperor Alexis Darsin the Fourth
Re: APOC

It is a sad day when this occurs. I myself am against Communism. It has proven time and time again that it is a failed ideology and has only hurt people. Look at Stalin, look what happened to Cambodia. All were ravaged by Communism, which should have helped the people. Instead, they were massacred and forced into reeducation camps. Not to mention, isn't part of your philosophy where there is a dictatorship of the people until they can govern themselves. How is that different from, say, a fascist dictatorship? And how you do know your leaders will surrender that power when all instances have shown how power corrupts humans? Or when they will know when to do so. It's a failed ideology and you are only doing this alliance to gather like-minded fools whom will try to make war on those who don't agree. A strange form of discrimination.

However, the Fuhrer of Kampfers and I are in agreement. Going to war over their ideas is just as bad. I am amazed to see a nation who respects national sovereignty as much as I do these days. Wars are to be fought as a last resort, not because the enemy has a different idea than you or that you want land. Those are wastes of material, money, and lives. We cannot be so rash to do such actions, especially those of you who claim to be "fair" and "democratic". To act in such a manner is hypocritical. Thus, while I despise Communism with a passion, I support the decision Kampfers has made and offer any to give aid if they require any.

Emperor Alexis Darsin the Fourth

Imperium of Telros

Comrade Graeme Igo, Grandfather of the Igovian Revolution, keenly answers the questions and criticisms put by class enemy Alexis Darsin.

Look at Stalin, look what happened to Cambodia. All were ravaged by Communism, which should have helped the people.

"Stalin ravaged by Communism? If only! Alas, Russian Communism was brutally crushed by the Bolsheviks before the end of 1921, leaving no opportunity for it to do anything to that particular traitor. As for Kampuchea, I remind you that the nation's foreign minister in the Anka period said quite clearly, 'We [the Khmer Rouge] are not Communists'."

Not to mention, isn't part of your philosophy where there is a dictatorship of the people until they can govern themselves. How is that different from, say, a fascist dictatorship?

"Many Marxists refer to a dictatorship of the proletariat, and Marx pointed at the Paris Commune of 1871 as an example of this in action. We Igovians do not give any dogmatic value to the term in our own political science. In any case, you have made the mistake that McCarthy would have wanted, in paying attention only to black propaganda and not to facts or sources. The dictatorship of the proletariat is a popular government. 'A dictatorship of the people until they can govern themselves'? Ask yourself what you have just said. Of the people... you can not follow that with until they can govern themselves. The whole point is that the people at large become the government instead of being ruled by it. It is a dictatorship in that nothing can be above the will of the people."

However, the Fuhrer of Kampfers and I are in agreement. Going to war over their ideas is just as bad.

It is only with a smile as he writes that Igo replies to this. "Of course those standing before the tide with nowhere to run will say to it in despair, 'To rise would be stupid! Let us not quarrel, oh sea!' But the sea has no need of bargains, nor want for peace."

You seem to have taken my final idea the wrong way. I was supporting you in that sentence about ideas. I do not like your beliefs, and I will defend my nation if you attack me. But you DO have the right to practice those beliefs and if your people want to be Communists, then let them be Communists. I support what the people choose. I was reinforcing the Fuhrer's decision to protect the leader of APOC from my war-mongering fellows. I am dedicated to peace, Mr. Igo. I believe in innocent debates, not arguments between guns.

If you wanted to debate the greatest minds in Telros, I'd welcome you to my nation to do so. Your rights and national sovereignty as as precious to me as those of my people.

Emperor Alexis Darsin the Fourth

I am speaking on behalf on the Movement for the Sixth International of Rsperantujo 2. We hope to make massive gains in today's elections, as a result of the upsurge in class conflict. M6I(Eo2) is in general sympathy with your proposal, but we have grave reservations on two issues.Article IV.
Hereby authorizes the excessive use of unilateral force against bastions of Imperialist, Industrialist, Bourgeois and Capitalist thought.
We believe this to be against Marxist-Leninist principles. The liberation of the proletariat is the task of the proletarians themselves, and it would be wrong to endorse military adventures, which would only threaten the lives of our fellow proletarians and strengthen the ideology of nationalist reaction.
Secondly, we support Esperantujo 2's continuing membership of A Socialist Paradise, and combat infiltration of that region by reactionary elements. Though we are fighting to build a 6th International, because of the revisionism and corruption of the previous 5 internationals, we are willing where appropriate to form a united front with all socialist organisations, including those of the 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th internationals, while acknowledging that the so-called Socialist 2nd International is entirely in the camp of the bourgeoisie.
Vladimiro Leono Tubisto
Movado por Sesa Internacio (Movement for a 6th International)
Zamenhofurbo

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OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
FREE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF MURRA

To the ASoGM: You call your nation free and ruled by the people; indeed, so may many nations, should they choose. But it is not possible for a nation to be truly democratic that has not embraced Communism. The lives of all citizens in capitalist or fascist régimes are subject to the unpredictable whims and vicissitudes of corrupt executives, plutocrats, and oligarchs. Only under Communism, when the citizens themselves have equal voices in Government and Economy, can they be truly free. If your population claims not to desire a collectivist agenda, one must ask why they have "chosen" to so oppress themselves. The only possible explanation is that support of Capitalism and Fascism has been drilled into your population from such an early age that now they truly believe it, and the true Socialists that are undoubtedly far more numerous than your polls indicate are afraid to speak their minds for fear of retaliation. Surely an investigation will reveal anti-communist biases, subtle or overt, in your education system; in all forms of popular media and entertainment; in every aspect of your society. Such societies are far worse than simple dictatorships: for the people come to believe in their oppression that they are free, and denounce true freedom as oppression. Your kind shall be first against the wall when the Eternal Revolution reaches your remote corner of the globe, mark my words.

To the fascist Grand World Orders, the Leistungi, the others who denounce us, we fear you are lost causes. To the people of those nations, we can only urge you to open your eyes. See the evil of the governments oppressing and controlling every aspect of your lives, and rebel; bring the Eternal Revolution to your lands, and do not fear, for someday the forces of righteousness shall liberate you and bring your people into a new golden age.

Alexei V. Kosugin
Chairman of the Murran Communist Party and Senior Commissar for Trade, Diplomacy, Strategery, Foreign Affairs, Local Affairs, National Affairs, Sub-National Affairs, Supra-National Affairs, Affaires, Defence, Offence, and Midfielders

Minister Smithfield received this communique too, and brought it to the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Jeffrey Laurence. They read it together and had a laugh. Minister Laurence said, "They think we're fascists? Do they even know what Fascism means? Do they not know that in the last elections, we had a national record number of incumbent Ministers lose their seats? Do they not know we have a new President? Maybe we should inform them so they can get their facts straight". Minister Smithfield said, "Jeff, it's not going to make a difference. They won't be happy unless the ASoGM goes Communist. We told them about the Socialist party losing seats in the election, and they sent this letter, accusing us of functionally brainwashing our citizens. I've already talked to Pete, and he's hoping they lose steam and forget about us. But he wants security stepped up, in case they try something".

The Binarian anarchist movement declares this organization, and all governments, as fascist, hypocritical, and illegal. If they truely believed in freedom and the ideals of self-rule would disband and allow people to group and live their lives without any interferrence from any organization. Those that claim to defend the people's freedom but seek to control how they live their lives and make their living, while seeking absolute power for themselves deserve to be shot, lynched and burned. May the people awaken and realize that all controling forces in their lives need to be eliminated. Burn in hell fascist pigs.

OOC: Allow me to try something here, ESR. I'm sure you'll find my post to be quite unique among the usual anti-Communist/pro-Communist rhetoric. My intention is to have an average citizen send a message to your leader about why he feels Communism isn't all that good.

Miss Gorbachova,

I can understand your ardent devotion to the gospel of the Communist movement as expounded by Marx and Engels but while I must admire you for refusing to bow down to others, mainting your beliefs, I must admit that the purpose of this letter is not to support you but rather to inquire and to criticize that which you believe in. First of all, I have heard it said that true democracy comes with Communism. Now, there've been many nations that subscribe to Communist thinking such as Murra. These nations claim that they are true followers of what Marx and Engels said but do they act like true followers? I am sorry to say that, in my opinion, they do not. The Party usually ends up recieving the wealth while the citizen lives in squalor and I find it hard to believe that poverty could exist in a Communist nation where, after all, the people are supposed to be sharing the wealth. It seems quite odd, then, that a Communist Party could hold the wealth and not disperse it evenly among the citizens who serve it. Where is social equality? Miss Gorbachova, please tell me why poor people exist in Communist societies. You say Communism advocates the destruction of classes but, yet, I see nothing but distinctions between people in such nations. You say that Communism advocates common ownership of goods but all I see is the Party being greedy and the common man and woman losing out. Secondly, why are Communist nations usually marked with personality cults around the leader of the nation? If we were to look at Stalinist Russia, which I am sure you are quite acquainted with, we will see that Stalinism, at its best, was a mere glorification of Stalin. Stalin was everything or, to use modern lingo, he was the shit. Stalin was the best man you could possibly know about. If you didn't care much for him, then you were pretty much killed or sent to a gulag to work for years upon years. Notice, in Stalinist Russia, that democracy was absent. Trotsky once said: "Socialism needs democracy like the human body needs oxygen."

Sadly, as Communist nations have proven, they refuse to become democratic but rather they centralize the authority in the hands of an oligarchy which contradicts the core of Marxist thinking. Ironically, Trotsky is quoted as saying: "As for us, we were never concerned with the Kantian-priestly and vegetarian-Quaker prattle about the "sacredness of human life."

The Communist nations of the world are nothing more than dictatorships which pretend to be devoted to Communism when they do not act like a true devotee would. I am sure that, by now, I have offended you. I must have made myself a parasite by now or something of the sort. So be it. You and I are human. Humans naturally disagree over whatever comes to mind. Truth be told, I am merely just commenting on Communism. I don't hate it nor do I love it. It just sounds odd to me that people like you will praise government by the workers only to implement government by bureaucrats. Where is the worker in the government of Bulgislavia? What about the peasants? Surely the peasants, the farmers and so forth ought to be represented? There is more to a nation than the worker, Miss Gorbachova, and it is the attitude of being apathetic towards the interests of the peasants that provokes revolution. Contemplate this notion. The peasants would surely not take too kindly to being ignored, would they?

Thirdly, are all capitalists truly to blame for the plight of the common man? I do not deny that the workers face injustices but not all capitalists are bad in my opinion. Plenty of them, I believe, work for the benefit of the workers. Look at members of the Catholic Church. They must be as bad as the capitalists if every allegedly Communist nation is bent on destroying it. Some of the Popes were socially minded individuals. One Pope, in an encyclical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rerum_Novarum), said:

"Lastly, the rich must religiously refrain from cutting down the workmen's earnings, whether by force, by fraud, or by usurious dealing; and with all the greater reason because the laboring man is, as a rule, weak and unprotected, and because his slender means should in proportion to their scantiness be accounted sacred."

Does this sound horrible to you, Miss Gorbachova? I know how much Communists hate religion so, perhaps, you will dismiss it as a mere attempt to sucker in the workers, that is to say, that it is nothing more than lying. False faces hide the true intention, so the wise men say, and which I assume you may believe. It sounds to me, at times, that the hatred of religion merely stems from the notion that the Church would provide reactionary support against the Communists in power and, therefore, the Party must crush it without relent. In a Communist nation, should anything be around that opposes it? Since Communism seems inherently atheist, religion would automatically be opposed to it through principle, that is, its inherent belief in a God or something beyond mortal comprehension. An action has a reaction, Miss Gorbachova. It is inevitable to find opposition to Communism....no, rather your interpretation of it. Not every Communist agrees on the issues just like not every Christian agrees on doctrines. You may be hated by a leader who calls himself a true Communist and so on. Miss Gorbachova, I am only a student but I hope that my status does not prevent me from having a reply for this letter of my hand. Miss Gorbachova, my parents are rich but yet they have not only earned their money but donated it to the poor as well. Can you tell them that this is irrevelent? My father may be a capitalist but he has never been a tyrant over those who work for him.

Miss Gorbachova, my opinion on Communism is that it only works theoretically and that it is nothing more than a utopian philosophy designed to give the common man hope for the future; hope that he would, in time, be able to make a good life for himself and his loved ones. I've heard it said that true democracy only comes with Communism. Let me ask you a question. Where are the Communists? Where is this dictatorship of the Proletariat? They do not exist. Prove to me that a true Communist nation exists, Miss Gorbachova. I cannot find one at all. I cannot find any nation that has ever truly been Communist to have existed. The recent declaration by Murra states that only Communist nations are democratic. Indeed, I believe that this is asinine. Quoting Murra:

"The only possible explanation has been that support of Capitalism and Fascism has been drilled into them at an early age...."

Is this not what you Communists do as well? Doesn't it sound a tad hypocritical of Murra to say that a nation conditions its people to be supportive of Capitalism and Fascism while, at the same time, the Young Pioneers and so forth are taught to love the gospel of Communism?

I have read your organization's charter and find it to be disturbing to say the least. You pretty much advocate nothing more than merciless bloodshed and coldhearted extermination. You authorize:

"The excessive use of unilateral force against bastions of Imperialist, Industrialist, Bourgeois and Capitalist thought."

What will you call those Communists who believe in peaceful revolution? Cowards? Look at the wise man of the east (Gandhi) and how he defeated the colonialists with nothing more than a staff with which he walked to an ocean. He proves that war against tyranny need not be smeared with blood but, yet, your intention is to do that. Your intention is to cause the creation of widows and orphans so you may proceed to create more of them in the end. Think about it. "Communism" brought upon its own downfall. The people had enough of its so called message of social unity and thus threw it from them without concern. They were sick and tired of the oppression. Why do you think Communists perform poorly in elections?

My homeland is a constitutional monarchy and, at times, people may dislike the idea that one family is first among equals but, Miss Gorbachova, we have had more freedoms here than we ever would in a Communist nation. Communism is nothing more than theoretical utopianism. The leaders, the so called Communists, rely on paternalist interpretations of Marxist thinking to rule over their subjects. There are Communists who truly care about the people but they are usually executed by the false Communists. Not all Communists are liars. Your brand of Communism is really nothing more than bureaucratic collectivism in which the Party owns the means of production while the workers have their allegedly tyrannical capitalist overlords replaced by your own handmade tyrants.

Miss Gorbachova, my intention with this letter is not to condemn but rather to inquire and to state my own opinion. I hope that you will take the time to give me an honest reply to my letter because I've been hopeful to learn about why Communists don't seem to practice what they preach. Perhaps you would be able to explain this notable fact to me? Perhaps, though, I'll be recieving a spiteful reply from you. If I am a parasite, so be it.

Sincerely,
I. Makris

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OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
FREE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF MURRA

To the ASoGM: You call your nation free and ruled by the people; indeed, so may many nations, should they choose. But it is not possible for a nation to be truly democratic that has not embraced Communism. The lives of all citizens in capitalist or fascist régimes are subject to the unpredictable whims and vicissitudes of corrupt executives, plutocrats, and oligarchs. Only under Communism, when the citizens themselves have equal voices in Government and Economy, can they be truly free. If your population claims not to desire a collectivist agenda, one must ask why they have "chosen" to so oppress themselves. The only possible explanation is that support of Capitalism and Fascism has been drilled into your population from such an early age that now they truly believe it, and the true Socialists that are undoubtedly far more numerous than your polls indicate are afraid to speak their minds for fear of retaliation. Surely an investigation will reveal anti-communist biases, subtle or overt, in your education system; in all forms of popular media and entertainment; in every aspect of your society. Such societies are far worse than simple dictatorships: for the people come to believe in their oppression that they are free, and denounce true freedom as oppression. Your kind shall be first against the wall when the Eternal Revolution reaches your remote corner of the globe, mark my words.

To the fascist Grand World Orders, the Leistungi, the others who denounce us, we fear you are lost causes. To the people of those nations, we can only urge you to open your eyes. See the evil of the governments oppressing and controlling every aspect of your lives, and rebel; bring the Eternal Revolution to your lands, and do not fear, for someday the forces of righteousness shall liberate you and bring your people into a new golden age.

Alexei V. Kosugin
Chairman of the Murran Communist Party and Senior Commissar for Trade, Diplomacy, Strategery, Foreign Affairs, Local Affairs, National Affairs, Sub-National Affairs, Supra-National Affairs, Affaires, Defence, Offence, and Midfielders

Official Reply

To: Those Communist Funny Bunnies!
From: Someone who's really lazy and doesn't feel like typing his name.

Mr. Alexei, let me remind you that we honestly don't give a care what you think. The day that True Communism exists, perhaps. When that day arrives, we will lend our ears of support unto you. But so far the world shows us that Communist Societies must either Evolve into something more, or collapse under the never ending lies that started its foundation. With due respect...oh hell what am I saying?

With no respect at all towards your blatant refusal of the True Communist Teachings, we therefore submit unto you that when the day your "Chairman" status becomes "Elected Chairman", we will jump off a bridge for you. Because, in reality, you can't be elected to be a tyrannical psychopath.

Good day,
Lazy Man behind a Keyboard
Some Official Place in Anagonia

The Confederacy of Third Spanish States endorses the truthful and factual declaration of the Binarian anarchist movement, and furthermore, we believe that any form of hierarchy, specially political hierarchy, will lead to corruption, and to a revolution being destroyed from inside by the very hypocrites who claimed to support it, but who were nothing but puppeteers seeking an opportunity to ascend in power. Likewise, we consider the so called final stage communism impossible unless human individuality was somehow vanquished, having succeeded with an effective socialist economy, or "third way" depending on the point of view, where others have failed. When a market is controlled by governments or by a handful of corporations, it can't truly be considered free, unless when using such rhetoric benefits the maintenance of the corporate and governmental establishment. Paradoxically, through self-management and worker's cooperative principles, a truly free market, like the economy of the Confederacy, can be established, and thus, fairness be ensued for no more economical parasitism would then exist, and with no government or corporations, total economical freedom for everyone rather than for a few fat cats is the only logical outcome.

As for so-called "planned" economies, they are neither socialist nor communist, and only a very short-sighted individual would consider them intermediary states for the utopia that is the final stage according to the delusions of Marx, and as we aren't intelligent ants living in hives, it is not even achievable in the first place. They are nothing but a capitalist system completely monopolized by the State, at best a poor but good-intentioned way seen as the only to make people have "fair" lives, and at worse the tip of an iceberg where everyone is nothing but a slave of the government and its wealthy Communist Party elites.

As for such alliance which acronym seems strangely familiar, we will be watchful, for the likelihood of it becoming a haven for Stalinists, Maoists and other systems of government more known for their death tolls in innocent lives than for any real achievement in true socialism isn't small. In many ways, such governments are more abhorrent than the pseudo-democratic plutocracies that are common across the world and at least as abhorrent as Nazi and Fascist States. As for our real relations, however, we will stay neutral unless future circumstances dictate otherwise.

Our Nation has Been Waiting for a Pact Between Communist Nations
We Hearby Sign

Signed
Alexei Valishnakov
Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Peoples Republic of Miyager

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Danil Janeček,
Director of the Transitionary Rehabilitation of Emerging Economies initiative.
<d.Janeček@tree.vlada.hr>

ooc: Yeah, definitely gonna need a bit to compose some replies. Reads excellently Latin Byzantines, I'd like to compose one back if I have time. I may have to reply a little piecemeal haha. Don't worry, I've not abandoned this thread!

The various communiques and letters flashing about the world over the nature of a Communist alliance continued to fill the Red Tidean State Committee with glee. The Totalitarian State of Red Tide, despite the name, was not Communist, Anarchist, Socialist, Democratic, Monarchic, or even completely Fascist. Where on the political spectrum Red Tide fell was not exactly clear, as Red Tide persecuted all of these ideologies equally.

The truth was, Red Tide had no ideology, it was acted in it's own interests. Red Tide may oppress Anarchists and Communists the most, but only because those to ideologies had the most traction in Red Tide (which is to say, in the great scheme of things, very little).

The reason these arguements made Red Tidean leaders feel good was it meant that the world was still divided. That Communists, Anarchists, Fascists, and Democracies were still at each others throats. In the meantime, Red Tide would look out for Red Tide, not any other nation.