NationStates Jolt Archive


Universal Decleration of Human Rights Day.

Miami Shores
10-12-2008, 20:07
Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Preamble

Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,

Whereas the peoples of the World Assembly have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in cooperation with the World Assembly the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,

Now, therefore,

The General Assembly,

Proclaims this Universal Declaration of Human Rights as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.
Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.

Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.
Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
Article 6

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.
Article 7

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Article 8

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.
Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.
Article 11

1. Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
2. No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
Article 13

1. Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each State.
2. Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

Article 14

1. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
2. This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

Article 15

1. Everyone has the right to a nationality.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.

Article 16

1. Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
2. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
3. The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.

Article 17

1. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Article 19

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Article 20

1. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
2. No one may be compelled to belong to an association.

Article 21

1. Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
2. Everyone has the right to equal access to public service in his country.
3. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

Article 22

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.
Article 23

1. Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
2. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
3. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
4. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.

Article 24

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.
Article 25

1. Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
2. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.

Article 26

1. Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
2. Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
3. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

Article 27

1. Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
2. Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

Article 28

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.
Article 29

1. Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
2. In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
3. These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the NS WA World Assembly.

Article 30

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

While our nation is not a member of the NS WA World Assembly we support the principles of the Universal Decleration of Human Rights day in our nation.

And consider the WA as the main international organization of laws.

Is your government a member of the WA World Assembly? Does your government support the Univeral Decleration of Human Rights Day?

Foreign Affairs Minister, Elian Gonzalez
National Council of Ministers
Hispanic Republic of Miami Shores.

President Lincoln Diaz-Balart
Vice President Ileana Ros-lehtinen.
Whiskeasy
10-12-2008, 20:19
Diplomatic Communique
To President Lincoln Diaz-Balart
From Secretary for Foreign Affairs Edward Scissenfeld

We stand tall to uphold Human Rights everywhere. Some battles are hard to win however. Ignore the WA they have no real power and you can be in the WA and disagree with everything they stand for. Look for a good alliance like ODECON or CSS. Our fine nation is a member of ODECON and believe that Human Rights are very important.
Regards,
Jack Daniel
Cotenshire
10-12-2008, 22:54
To the honourable Mr Diaz-Balart, President of Miami Shores,

His Majesty, King William V Salisbury, commends this most courageous act of yours to bring the light of Christ to the world through remembrance of this document. It is far too rare that heroes such as yourself stand up to confront the evil tyrants of this world.

His Majesty disagrees with this declaration on several points, however, and he asked me to send with this note a copy of the declaration that he annotated. He believes that you have written this declaration yourself, and by the time that I inform him that you haven’t, this piece of correspondence will have already been sent.

In any case, please think over his suggestions, for if there are some errors within, they shall soon be corrected.

Signed,
The Rt Hon. Jan Sebastien, Lord Chancellor

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Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Preamble
This is an appropriate title.

Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,
I suggest that the words “as brought by Christ Jesus” be appended to the end, since without it this sentence misses the most important part.

Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,
It was good at first, but the freedom from fear and want part just sounds silly. Also, it is rather ridiculous to let villains and robbers corrupt the minds of the innocent with their rhetoric, so I would strike out the part about “speech”.

Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,
This is good.

Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,
Yes, this is extremely important.

Whereas the peoples of the World Assembly have in the Charter reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person and in the equal rights of men and women and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,
I would suggest adding “and children” after “women,” since children are frequently the targets of Jews.

Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in cooperation with the World Assembly the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms,
I suggest that it say “of human rights, fundamental freedoms, and Christian values,” since, as it is, the phrase is too vague.

Whereas a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge,
Again, I suggest working something in there about the importance of Christianity, since without it the phrase would be rather insubstantial and meaningless.

Now, therefore,

The General Assembly,

Proclaims this Universal Declaration of Human Rights as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.
I understand that this passage is intended to be vague, since the specifics are in the articles to follow, but some clause should be worked into here regarding the succession of legitimate monarchs, since the greatest danger to global human rights comes when a monarch succeeds to a throne illegally.

Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
When reading this, I get the impression that you intended on writing “They are endowed with reason and conscience by their creator” but accidently forgot the last part. Also, you forgot to specify the gender of the subject in this statement, for men are granted reason and women are granted temperance and nurture.

Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.

Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
I would suggest that this article be put in the introduction, as it is not as much an article in itself, but it shows to whom these articles apply.

Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
I do not think this point is as fully thought out as it should have been. For instance, could not a criminal invoke that he is still considered part of “everyone” if he is arrested and thrown in jail (which violates his liberty) and is then tried and sentenced to death (thus violating his right to life and security of person). Some exceptions need to be made if this is to be workable.

Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.
I am not sure why you decided to prohibit “servitude.”

Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
Like Article 3, this article should be applied in almost every circumstance, but there need be a few exceptions, such as for criminals.

Article 6

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.
This article is much too vague. What law is this? The law as laid out in the Books of Moses? Or is this the new law as taught by Jesus? Surely it is not any human law, for I would not try to enforce the laws of my realm on your people.

Article 7

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Yes, this is a very good one. I admire how you clarified that law is for “protection” and not “punishment.” That is very insightful.

Article 8

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.
I see no immediate problem with this one.

Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
This is a very important point, and it is why I would like to add the clause in the introduction concerning monarchs succeeding to the throne illegally. After all, is there anything that an illegitimate monarch can do that is not arbitrary, for an illegitimate monarch simply occupying the throne is in itself illegal.

Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.
I see no problem with this article.

Article 11

1. Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
2. No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
I have one problem with this, and that is that the trial must be made public. Whenever I hold trials to convict ruffians brought before me, I certainly do not want it to be held publically, since a King should not have to mingle with such scum. If a monarch exercises such extreme grace and generosity as to try the criminals themselves, should they have to forfeit their privacy?

Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
The problem of the application of this article to criminals again surfaces. If a criminal is guaranteed privacy, then how can a crime be properly investigated?

Article 13

1. Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each State.
2. Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
I am sorry, this is just ludicrous.

Article 14

1. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
2. This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
This is good.

Article 15

1. Everyone has the right to a nationality.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
I am not sure what this one is saying. How is it possible that one cannot have a nationality, and how is it possible that such nationality can change?

Article 16

1. Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
2. Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
3. The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
This is nonsensical, and should be removed in its entirety.

Article 17

1. Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
I do not understand why everyone should be given property. Also, is it not just to confiscate the property of a criminal as punishment for his crime? I keep including the problem of criminals in my critique because it is a rather glaring oversight.

Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
I would remove the last part (beginning with “and freedom, either alone…”) because in some instances the practice of a heretical or heathen religion can cause public disorder.

Article 19

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
There are so many problems with this article that I cannot begin to name them all here. For example, not everyone should be able to express their ambitions. What if one who intended to usurp the throne was to rouse the rabble? Also, we cannot prohibit limitations on the forms of media that may be used, since those who rely on printing monopolies would be ruined if others could print without them.

Article 20

1. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
2. No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
I see no problem with this.

Article 21

1. Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
2. Everyone has the right to equal access to public service in his country.
3. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.
This article is too vague. Surely you do not want Everyone to be granted access to Any public services. Also, it should be made clear the ways in which a man is allowed to “take part in the government of his country,” for some may interpret this as becoming King themselves.

Also, I understand that you are not a monarch, but surely you must understand that there are other ways of selecting a ruler other than elections. I did not omit all of the third point, since the will of the people is indeed important. There is no way that an illegitimate monarch can claim to be the voice of the people’s will.

Article 22

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.
This passage is so vague as to be meaningless. Let me pose a few questions that might aid your thought when the article is rewritten. What must occur for one to have developed his personality? What must be done to bring about this realization? Is this honestly something a government should do? You cannot expect any modern state to waste their resources on such an issue unless there is a more concrete diagnosis of what needs to be done.

Article 23

1. Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
2. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
3. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
4. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.
I do not understand this article. I recognize the words, but when put together they are meaningless. “Equal pay for equal work?” Do you conceptualize working as some form of competition? “Everyone has the right to work.” Is this supposing that there are some who would rather not work and instead starve? If such people exist, it would be better that they starved.

Article 24

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.
A despot must be truly cruel to forbid holidays to his people, but he cannot limit their work. What if such a limitation is needed for a family to be adequately fed? You and I are wealthy enough to be sure that we will have a meal every day, but it is not so for everyone.

Article 25

1. Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
2. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.
By “right to,” do you mean that such things cannot be taken away from the people, or instead that it must be given to them? I cannot imagine the latter scenario actually being implemented in a functional society.

Article 26

1. Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
2. Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
3. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.
Sir, this is outright cruel of you. Peasant families need their children so that farm work may be completed on time, and yet you want your government to take them away and try to fill their heads with ideas that they have no hope of understanding? And after all, what use is Latin when it comes to plowing fields?

The third part of this article is the only sensible one.

Article 27

1. Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
2. Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.
How can one own the ideas behind a scientific or literary work? That sounds to me like those Jews who say that they own time. You cannot own any abstract concept, for God did not give those for any human to possess.

Article 28

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.
I would like this article to be more specific. The wording is vague, and I would like to ask how one might be entitled to this, but I cannot figure out what exactly “this” is.

Article 29

1. Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
2. In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
3. These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the NS WA World Assembly.
We do not want this to apply only to societies which are considered “democratic.” That word is too vague and too unprofessional for usage in a document such as this.

Article 30

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.
This is good.

While our nation is not a member of the NS WA World Assembly we support the principles of the Universal Decleration of Human Rights day in our nation.

And consider the WA as the main international organization of laws.

Is your government a member of the WA World Assembly? Does your government support the Univeral Decleration of Human Rights Day?

Foreign Affairs Minister, Elian Gonzalez
National Council of Ministers
Hispanic Republic of Miami Shores.

President Lincoln Diaz-Balart
Vice President Ileana Ros-lehtinen.

This document represents quite a noble effort that you have put forth. While there are several mistakes that I have pointed out, they should not dishearten you. Any piece of writing as bold and universal as this is bound to be imperfect on its first draft. May its revision represent the second step in bringing the glory of Christ to the world.

Signed,
I, the King
Kurona
10-12-2008, 23:41
The Principality of Kurona

We do admire you for making this, and we would support it more willingly if it weren't for several articles we disagree with. Your revisions are up to you but we must abstain, but we will list our concerns:

First and foremost is the enforceability of this deceleration for those that do adopt it. Can you address how this deceleration would be enforced?

In addition we found problems with these and purpose a solution:

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Problem: We agree in the prohibition of slavery but not servitude. Or at least, willful servitude.

Solution: You should amend to say involuntary servitude


No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Agreed in part, but we don't agree to non-exile. Kurona does have the death penalty but we use it sparingly in favor of forceful deportation of prisoners. We don't feel it's cruel at all.

1. Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
2. Everyone has the right to equal access to public service in his country.
3. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

Not every country is democratic. Kurona will not abandon it's long time monarchy to give elections. We are fine with people choosing city Mayors and their regional Governance, but not our pride family line. Also what public services are you talking about?

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

Kurona doesn't administer Social Security. We see no point in giving away free money with no one pulling their own weight. The family should care for their elders, not the Government.

1. Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
2. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
3. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.


4. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.


In part we agree, equal pay for all but we don't see how to prevent unemployment. Business go out either because they simply can't manage or because of something happening in the natural forces. Do you mean that a person can whistle blow on a company without facing termination? We agree and Kurona has laws on the books.

1. Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
2. Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
3. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

We agree partly on education. But free, does that mean ALL Education, or is there room for Free and Payed Education. Free Education provided by the Government is practiced in Kurona, as well as Private Education. College costs money as it is secondary learning.

However our curriculum is more of preparing student's for life instead of implying general knowledge. We don't recognize the United Nations nor the World Assembly thus we see no need to further their agenda.

Also, Kurona feels some children may kept from school because they are needed on the farm. Thus we don't enforce a mandate of education.

1. Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
2. Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

We find #1 unnecessary. Everyone can do this as it is. But the copyright clause seems fair.

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

This is very vague and overly wordy. Trim it down and say it in a simple terms for the rest of us to understand.


These are our main concerns, I don't think we would adopt this at present
Carnelian Island
11-12-2008, 05:30
We can not accept your treaty because you only cover Human Beings and do not include protection for non-human beings such as Elves, Nekos, etc.
Brogavia
11-12-2008, 05:33
We can not accept your treaty because you only cover Human Beings and do not include protection for non-human beings such as Elves, Nekos, etc.

That's like making santa's workers an execption to minimium wage laws.
Third Spanish States
11-12-2008, 05:48
The Confederacy of Third Spanish States believes that no declaration is stronger than the muzzle of a rifle pointed at the head of tyrants, slavers, murderers of people, genocidal maniacs, fascists and similar dregs of mankind, and that such rhetoric will never change an inch in the world, for such men have no regards for any declaration other than a declaration of war.
Cotenshire
11-12-2008, 06:38
To the Appropriate Official of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Treaties, Declarations, and Resolutions Department,

His Majesty was greatly offended by your words, sir. Even you must admit that your approach was contrary to the ways of a gentle diplomat. It is not at all conducive to fair diplomacy when one party laces its arguments with insults and foul rhetoric. But what is even worse is that the arguments you present are foolish and incorrect.

You say that this is no “secular” treaty, which leads me to question if you even know what the word means. A “secular” treaty would have nothing to do with religion at all. It does not take intensive examination to see the clear intentions of this treaty’s authors to propound and channel their Christian beliefs. You ought read the first sentence:

“Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,…”

Was it not Christianity that introduced our society to the dignity of all men, the equality of all before Christ (for that is the only place on this Earth in which true equality will ever exist), and the drive for achieving freedom for the enslaved, justice for the condemned, and peace for the embattled?

This treaty was created so that our mission on Earth may be more perfectly realized, and that hope shall finally be brought to the heathen. Try as you might, your despotism will never stamp out this declaration, for its values will always live in the heart of every man who has embraced Christ. Your attempts to slander this document with the term “secular” will not succeed.

I am not sure what you mean by your second point. You show that you do understand the faults of democracy, that is, that dictators use it to “create disorder and take control by popular vote.” “That is the essence of democracy,” you say, before pointing out that we do not practice it. Of course, no subject of the King would call his government a democracy. Is this supposed to damage our reputation?

No, sir, our ideals are not perverted. If you do not support this treaty, then we would ask you to take your beliefs somewhere else.

Signed,
The Rt Hon. Jan Sebastien, Lord Chancellor
Miami Shores
11-12-2008, 07:50
Diplomatic Communique
To President Lincoln Diaz-Balart
From Secretary for Foreign Affairs Edward Scissenfeld

We stand tall to uphold Human Rights everywhere. Some battles are hard to win however. Ignore the WA they have no real power and you can be in the WA and disagree with everything they stand for. Look for a good alliance like ODECON or CSS. Our fine nation is a member of ODECON and believe that Human Rights are very important.
Regards,
Jack Daniel

Diplomatic Communique
To Secretary for Foreign Affairs Eward Scissenfeld
From Foreign Affairs Minsiter, Elian Gonzalez.

In retrospect we regret the Public Poll was not as perfect as it should have been as it should have included an option for members of other organizations please post.

We admire your commitment to uphold Human Rights everywhere.

Regards
From the National Council of Ministers including the President and Vice President of our nation to your people and government officials.

Foreign Affairs Minsiter, Elian Gonzalez
National Council of Ministers
Hispanic Republic of Miami Shores.

President and Vice President of the National Council of Ministers and nation respectively:

President Lincoln Diaz-Balart
Vice President Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
Hispanic Republic of Miami Shores.
Niraamaya
11-12-2008, 07:52
To the Appropriate Official of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Treaties, Declarations, and Resolutions Department,

His Majesty was greatly offended by your words, sir. Even you must admit that your approach was contrary to the ways of a gentle diplomat. It is not at all conducive to fair diplomacy when one party laces its arguments with insults and foul rhetoric. But what is even worse is that the arguments you present are foolish and incorrect.

You say that this is no “secular” treaty, which leads me to question if you even know what the word means. A “secular” treaty would have nothing to do with religion at all. It does not take intensive examination to see the clear intentions of this treaty’s authors to propound and channel their Christian beliefs. You ought read the first sentence:

“Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,…”

Was it not Christianity that introduced our society to the dignity of all men, the equality of all before Christ (for that is the only place on this Earth in which true equality will ever exist), and the drive for achieving freedom for the enslaved, justice for the condemned, and peace for the embattled?

This treaty was created so that our mission on Earth may be more perfectly realized, and that hope shall finally be brought to the heathen. Try as you might, your despotism will never stamp out this declaration, for its values will always live in the heart of every man who has embraced Christ. Your attempts to slander this document with the term “secular” will not succeed.

I am not sure what you mean by your second point. You show that you do understand the faults of democracy, that is, that dictators use it to “create disorder and take control by popular vote.” “That is the essence of democracy,” you say, before pointing out that we do not practice it. Of course, no subject of the King would call his government a democracy. Is this supposed to damage our reputation?

No, sir, our ideals are not perverted. If you do not support this treaty, then we would ask you to take your beliefs somewhere else.

Signed,
The Rt Hon. Jan Sebastien, Lord Chancellor

(OOC: Oops. I didn't read the reply completely. Please ignore that message.)
Miami Shores
11-12-2008, 11:30
Miami Shorerian Herald Dec 11, 2008.

La Habana Cuba. The Ladies in White - Las Damas en Blanco. About 32 Damas en Blanco wives of political dissident prisoners marched wednesday on the anniversary of the Universal Decleration of Human Rights Day towards the capitol building in the center of La Habana City Province to demand the release of thier husbands.

This march is for the respect of all civil liberties for all LHC Cuban citizens that are being denied. Stated Laura Pollan one of the leaders of the Ladies in White.

With roses, signs and silence marched towards the Capitol building with pictures of thier husbands. Handing out copys of the Universal Decleration of Human rights day and LHC Cuban flags.

Commemorating the memory of the day of arrests and condemnation of 6 to 8 years in 2003 of thier loved ones. Accused of being mercenaries of the Miami Shorerian Government Mafia as they call them.

As long as their are political dissident prisoners thier will be Damas de Blanco according to thier leaders.

Remembering April 21 2008. When they protested peacefully in the Plaza of the Revolution. As they were detained and forced to board a bus back home.

Dont know why the government hates us so much as all we are doing is demanding the release of our husbands and loved ones in a peaceful manner stated thier leader Pollan.

Sunday last the Ladies in White laid roses on the bust of Mahatma Gandhi in the public park of La Habana City province. And Tuesday laid roses on a plaque too Martin Luther King at another park.

In the past they have been harassed by government organized mobs while police stood by. They and thier leaders have been prevented from travel abroad to recieve conmemorations from the NS EU government.

Alberto Gonzalez Sanchez Rodriguez Garcia reporting. Reporter Jose Diaz-Balart also contributed to this report.
Miami Shores
11-12-2008, 20:04
Miami Shorerian Herald :

La Habana Cuban political dissidents warned ahead of time of government harrasment as usual of thier peaceful anti government protests for the Univeral Decleration of Human Rights Day celebrations.

Former political prisoner and LHC dissident Oswaldo Paya Sardiñas calls on the WA and other international organizations to presure the LHC government to release all political prisoners within Cuba and not exile. Respect freedoms of Assembly, press, religion and hold internationally recognized monitored multi political partys fair and free elections to the Cuban National Assembly Parliment NAP.

Reporter Alberto Gonzalez Sanchez Rodriguez Garcia reporting. Reporter Jose Diaz-Balart also contributed to this report.
La Habana Cuba
12-12-2008, 05:39
From La Habana Cuba City Province at a secret news conference with one of the few unnamed International reporters for obvious reasons, accredited to the island nation archipelago.

Former political prisoner dissidents Oswaldo Paya Sardiñas for the LHC Varela Project of democratic reforms. Marta Beatriz Roque Cabello for author of the Homeland (LA Madre Patria) Belongs to all. And Las Damas en Blanco Ladies in White leader Laura Pollan.

Once again call on the WA and other international organizations to issue LHC a condemnation statement. And presure the government to release all non violent political prisoners within LH Cuba not exile. Including LH Cuba's main Afro Cuban political dissident leader DR Oscar Elías Biscet Gonzalez now serving a 25 year prison sentence.

To hold internationally monitored fair and free multi political party elections to the LHC National Assembly Parliment NAP.
The Grand World Order
12-12-2008, 06:02
((OOC: No real need for the triple post, LHC))

To: All Nations Involved
From: The Grand World Order Internal Control Department

We refuse to acknowledge such nonsense! "Human Rights Day" will not be celebrated within our country, as it promotes filthy Leftist ideals such as democracy and equality. Clearly, human beings are not equal. We're similar to the point where conformity is inevitable, but different enough to make some people inferior to others.

The Fascist Federation refuses to yield to such blatant leftism. Rule by the people makes life harsh, brutal, and short!
Niraamaya
12-12-2008, 06:06
((OOC: No real need for the triple post, LHC))

To: All Nations Involved
From: The Grand World Order Internal Control Department

We refuse to acknowledge such nonsense! "Human Rights Day" will not be celebrated within our country, as it promotes filthy Leftist ideals such as democracy and equality. Clearly, human beings are not equal. We're similar to the point where conformity is inevitable, but different enough to make some people inferior to others.

The Fascist Federation refuses to yield to such blatant leftism. Rule by the people makes life harsh, brutal, and short!

OOC: lulz. Orly?
Miami Shores
12-12-2008, 18:44
Miami Shorerian Herald.

Sadly but true once again the calls of the LHC political dissidents Oswaldo Paya Sardiñas, Marta Beatriz Roque Cabello, Laura Pollan of Las Damas en Blanco Ladies in White on the international organizations and nations that claim to support the Universal Decleration of Human Rights : Freedoms of speech, the press, religion, Assembly , the right to democratically elect its leaders, ect fall on deaf ears as they look the other way. Such is the world we live in.

Reporters: Alberto Gonzalez Sanchez Rodriguez Garcia and Jose Diaz-Balart.
La Habana Cuba
13-12-2008, 19:13
These traitors and thier Miami Shorian Government Mafia reporters are all a bunch of : Scums Escorias, Gusano Worms.

Foreign Affairs Minister Felipe Perez Roque
LHC State Council of Ministers Collective
La Habana Cuba Socialist Democratic Republic.

President Raul Castro Ruz
Comandante En Jefe Fidel Castro Ruz.
Red Tide2
13-12-2008, 20:36
Official Statement from TSRT Government
"The Totalitarian State of Red Tide opposes this 'Universal Declaration of Human Rights' as a blatant attempt at undermining the fabric of society. In the view of the TSRT, the State must be more important then all other factors in society, for without the State, there is no society. This 'declaration' is nothing more then a thinly disguised attempt to impose anarchism on a world that does not want it.

In addition, the Totalitarian State fully backs the Habana Cuba Socialist Democratic Republic in its rightful struggle against the forces of anarchy. We urge the Habana Cuba Government to take every action nessecary to deal with these protestors without giving into their anarchist demnds. Red Tide is willing to lend any assistance nessecary in this endeavor."
End Statement
La Habana Cuba
16-12-2008, 09:23
Thank you for your support. We welcome trade relations with the Red Tidan State. Your war ships like the war ships of Russia, Chernobyl-Pripyat may make frequent stops on our many excellent ports. However only LHC troops can have military bases in our nation which your forces may visit.

It is time that we exchange ambassadors. We would like to send Ambassador Alejandro Carballo and his staff of 33 to your nation, one representative of each ministry and 33 diplomatic security personnel.

When we are ready with our own embassy exchange thread we will invite current and new nations we have relations with to participate on the embassy exchange thread. Name your ambassador and staff needs here and they will be approved no questions asked or requirements made.

Let us assure you the non governmental organization of the masses, the CDR Committees for the Defense of the Revolution will keep an eye on these scums, escorias, gusano worms.

Oswaldo Paya Sardiñas, Marta Beatriz Roque Cabello, Laura Pollan of Las Damas en Blanco Ladies in White. Pro Miami Shorerian government Mafia members, and give them the appropriate social reprisals they all deserve. Which our government will not even have to bother dealing with.

Minister of Foreing Investment &
Economic Cooperation: Rodrigo Malmierca Diaz
Minister of Foreign Trade Raul De La Nuez Ramirez
Minister of Defense Julio Casas Reguiero
Minister of Interior Abelardo Colome Ibarra.
President of the CDRS Juan Jose Railero Fonseca

Foreing Affairs Minister Felipe Perez Roque.
LHC State Council of Ministers Collective.
La Habana Cuba Socialist Democratic Republic.

President Raul Castro Ruz
Comandante en Jefe Fidel Castro Ruz.

OOCC : While most RW nation names and regions are former nations. The RW nation names of Russia, Mexico and many others are found on NS if you look for them, or closely corrupted names. I wish they would RP like it probably was at the beginning of NS. We prefer to do political, factbook, embassy exchanges, RP s in general with these nation names. Yet understand there are only so many RW nations in the real world. We try to use real names of current and past officials as well whenever possible. It is also easier to come up with so many different names. To splain better, we use RW nation names in a generic sense, establish relations with NS RW nation names when possible which then take the place of the generic nation names. As well as mix relations with RW & NS nation names.
La Habana Cuba
19-12-2008, 10:52
LHC State News Agency Report : The Independent voice of the Revolution.

The USA State Department of Foreign Affairs: Secretary of Foreign Affairs Minister Jason Neal, alone among governmental agencys and world government leaders of international human rights organizations like the WA and other organizations.

Proving the political isolation of The USA State Department of Foreign Affaris in the world.

Has called on the WA and other international human rights organizations to insist on the government of La Habana Cuba the release all LHC political dissident prisoners within LH Cuba. The reponse from the LHC government has been very positive.

LHC President Raul Castro has stated, "fine we will send them all of our so called LHC political dissent prisoners along with thier entire families in return for our 5 heroes currently held in the USA on false spy charges. Due to the influence of the traitorous Miami Shorerian government Mafia, scums, escorias, gusano worms and thier supporters world wide.
Mareregnum
19-12-2008, 12:09
To: Foreign Affairs Minister, Elian Gonzalez
National Council of Ministers
Hispanic Republic of Miami Shores.

President Lincoln Diaz-Balart
Vice President Ileana Ros-lehtinen.

From: King Michael Lowis

As king of my people I can agree with many of your articles concerning human and civil rights. I wish only that my people to live a free life. A country with religious tolerance and open mindedness to culture and crime against such morals is severely punished in public.

There are a number of articles I personally do not agree on:

In response to Article 2. Although all people of Mareregnum are not above the law. The new feudal hierarchy installed means that those who own land have more rights in order to keep balance of power. This is earned so that even the common people can rise to status.

In response to Article 5. Different cultures have different customs and views on all things. In this country there are public executions on the harsher crimes such as murder.

In response to Article 9. Similarly, my people and I understand that punishments such as arbitrary arrest, detention or exile are needed depending on the crime.

In response to Article 19 & 20. Though we do agree freedom of open expression and opinion. Insults to the king are classed as an assault on the king himself and should be punished thusly.

In response to Article 21. Being a monarchy run country, one is born into power. The people can rise to some power by acknowledgement of skill and prowess and maybe able to own their own land and people under them.

We will be understanding of your customs but we simply cannot acknowledge them all in my country. Still, civil rights will be on my concern as I intend my people to flourish under my reign and many but not all are reflected by these Articles. Good luck and best of wishes from the King of Mareregnum

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Miami Shores
20-12-2008, 07:51
To The Salisburgic Dominion of Cotenshire:
The Rt Hon. Jan Sebastien, Lord Chancellor in the name of His Majesty, King William V Salisbury.

To: The Principality of Kurona.

To: King Michael Lowis of Mareregnum.

And other nations.

Thank you for your kind words, the concerns of the Royal Kings and Queens throughout the world have been duly noted by you.

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Elian Gonzalez
National Council of Ministers
Hispanic Republic of Miami Shores.
Miami Shores
20-12-2008, 08:00
Finally at least one nation Theutonia has voted on the Public Poll its support for Miami Shores in a possible war against La Habana Cuba.

It is shameful that not even one nation many of which belong to international human rights organizations such as the WA and others in our world have not at least condemned the LHC government dictatorship Mafia elite for life. For the harassment of political dissidents and LHC political dissident prisoners. Let alone insist on the LHC government to release them within LH Cuba not exile.

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Elian Gonzalez
National Council of Ministers
Hispanic Republic of Miami Shores.
La Habana Cuba
14-02-2009, 19:23
LHC National Assembly Parliment Statement:

All this talk of LHC releasing political prisoners is flawed. In order to release political prisoners one must have arrested political prisoners to release. That is not the case in our nation. There are no political prisoners in LHC.

Those few who have been arrested and convicted in our courts of laws are traitors paid by the USA and the Miami Shorerian government Mafia.

Our nation and government is the most democratic nation in the world as we respect the political rights of all our citizens.

So all this talk of democratic reform changes is absurd.

LHC NAP President Ricardo Alarcon Quesada.