NationStates Jolt Archive


Uruguay for sale

Ralkovia
09-12-2008, 03:58
Ralkovia is selling rights to its colony on Uruguay starting at $600 billion dollars. Bidding ends in 48 hours.

Ralkovia needed major funding, its economy was running on vapor and it was soon going to be in debt. Ralkovia hoped to break even or it would face an economic collapse the likes of which have never been seen.
Raven corps
09-12-2008, 04:05
Official Corporate Comminque

From: Desk of Colderon Jason Zion, CEO of the Raven Corporation.

To: Ralkovian Government Department selling Colony

Subject: Colony Sale

While we prefere to take land during assets absorbtion campaigns, we are always looking for new ways of obtaining land for operations. We are willing to pay 300 billion over the course of 10 years through small injections of payments as to not over-inflate your economy, and pay the rest with profits made from operations within the area. While payments are being made the ownership of the land will be shared until full payment is made.
Miami Shores
09-12-2008, 18:29
Are you selling a colony of Uruguay or the nation of Uruguay ? Not sure.

Either way tell us more about your colony or nation of Uruguay?

I dont think we can afford it either way and even if we could Raven Corps has offered you a great deal $. We feel we cant compete.

Just to share some facts about our nation.

Our nation's Hispanic Uruguyan population is 9,853 about .0060071209959639560564 % of the citizen population of 1,640,220.

There are currently an undetermined census number of non Hispanic legal residents under a 5 year citizenship program. Under which they must take a Spanish language class as a second language.

All legal Hispanic immigrants become citizens once setting foot on Miami Shores soil.

Illegal immigration is illegal.

All legal non Hispanic immigrants become citizens and fellow Hispanics under the 5 year citizenship program period.

Currently 55 % are of La Habana Cuban birth and descent, 45 % other Hispanics from all Hispanic nations including España La Madre Patria.

Miamishorerians or Hispanics for short.

While we dont have an actual factbook or embassy exchange thread yet we have made ourselves known to other nations through other channels of communication.

National Motto : All Hispanics unite as one.

Minister of Immigration, Rosa Torres
Minister of Statistics, Ricardo Rodriguez
Foreign Affairs Minister, Elian Gonzalez
National Council of Ministers
Hispanic Republic of Miami Shores.

President Lincoln Diaz-Balart
Vice President Ileana Ros-Lehtinen.
Hispanic Republic of Miami Shores.

The National Council of Ministers:

01. President Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Cuban Male.

02. Vice President Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. Under our constitution the Vice President serves as the Presidents Chief of Staff, advisor , aide and tiebreaker in the nations Parliment, Cuban Female.

03. Foreign Affairs Minister Elian Gonzalez, the now older but still young, handsome, charismatic foreign Affairs Minister and Potencial future President, Cuban Male.

04. RW UN Ambassador Minister Ninoska Perez-Castellon, Cuban Female.

05. Defence Minister, Armando Perez Roura, Cuban Male.

06. Minister of the Economy, Jorge Mas Santos Canosa, Cuban Male.

07. Minister of Labor and Social Security, Tony Chang, Chinese Cuban Male.

08.Minsiter of Justice, DR Ana Maria del Polo, He dicho Caso Cerrado, Ive said case closed. Cuban Female.

09. Minister of Immigration, Rosa Torres,
Cuban Female of Spaniard Cuban descent.

10. Minister of Education, Alicia Romero, Nicaraguan Female.

11. Minister of Tourism, Alvin Shultz Garcia, German Spaniard Male.

12. Minister of Culture Alicia Rodriguez, Chilean Female.

13. Minister of Statistics, Ricardo Rodriguez, Panamanian Male.

14. Minister of Health, DR Ana Figueroa-Wilson, Puerto Rican Female

15. Minister of National Bank Reserve, Maria Elena Ibañez, Colombian Female.

16. Minister of the Environment Lonnie Cantu, Mexican Male.

17. Minister of Agriculture, Alberto Fernandez, Argentinian Male.

18. Minister of Trade, Alfredo Quintero, Colombian Male.

19. Minister of National Security, Manuel Rosales, Venezuelan Male.

20. Minister of Natural Resources, Eddie Diaz, Puerto Rican Male.

The President and Vice President have pledged to appoint all hispanic ethnic groups to Minister and Vice Minister positions.
Gun Manufacturers
09-12-2008, 19:05
Ralkovia is selling rights to its colony on Uruguay starting at $600 billion dollars. Bidding ends in 48 hours.

Ralkovia needed major funding, its economy was running on vapor and it was soon going to be in debt. Ralkovia hoped to break even or it would face an economic collapse the likes of which have never been seen.

The Allied States of Gun manufacturers is also interested in obtaining Uruguay, and will bid $610 billion.
Osea 767
09-12-2008, 19:38
The Holy Empire of Osea will offer a Bid of $750 Billion.
Brydog
09-12-2008, 19:40
Wolfenhalle offers 801 billion.
Raven corps
09-12-2008, 20:14
The Raven Corporation places another bid....

400 billion in cash
500 billion in production profits and aquired Assets.
Kewen
09-12-2008, 20:46
The Nation of kewen, bids 1.1 Trillion.
Gun Manufacturers
09-12-2008, 21:13
The ASoGM will be bowing out of this bidding, as the current bids are beyond what we are willing to spend.
Axis Nova
09-12-2008, 21:25
The Imperial Realm of Axis Nova is willing to pay $1, plus a promise to not invade and take over Uruguay -and- Ralkovia.
Ralkovia
09-12-2008, 21:43
Ralkovia is not interested in threats axis, if you want to try to attack we have the means to defend ourselves'
Zinaire
09-12-2008, 21:54
Ralkovia is not interested in threats axis, if you want to try to attack we have the means to defend ourselves'

OOC: You say as you pawn off colonies to avoid collapsing under debt.
Osea 767
09-12-2008, 22:00
The Holy empire of Osea will increase its bid, $1.6 Trillion USD, $400 Billion Economic Aid plus a Non-agression pact with Ralkovia.
Mokastana
09-12-2008, 22:02
OOC: as the United States proved, nothing quite boosts the economy as going to war
Whiskeasy
09-12-2008, 22:05
OOC: as the United States proved, nothing quite boosts the economy as going to war

OOC: Debatable, your economy isn't going to fair so well if you have to draft everyone into the military and your factories have been bombed to a fine powder...
New Greston
09-12-2008, 22:10
[[OOC: He was joking, Whisky guy. At least I assume he was.]]
Fighter4u
09-12-2008, 22:14
Annoucment to the world
From:Fighter4u


A attack on Ralkovia is a attack not only upon Fighter4u but the IFA and will be deal with harshly.

To:Ralkovia
From:Fighter4u

We are quite willing to provide you with whatever funds you need to pay off your debts. We see not reason why you should sell fasict soil to pigs or commies.
Ralkovia
09-12-2008, 22:22
To: Fighter4U
From: Ralkovia

Heavily Encrypted

The land is full of the communist bug, instead of spending countless dollars on turning it back to the right we have decided to sell the problem.
Corporatist Capitalism
09-12-2008, 22:23
Corporate Capitalism wishes to offer a package of economic aid worth $2.3trn over a 5 year period in return for a monopoly on electrical utilities (which will be paid for at full price also)
Onward with corporate consumerist capitalism!
New Greston
09-12-2008, 22:29
[[OOC: No, CC, just no. 2.3 trillion USD's could easily be your entire economy, let alone money to throw away into a nation doomed to fall. Read the stickies and please, for the love of god, don't use internet slang.]]
Leistung
09-12-2008, 22:29
OOC: You're selling a colony to the highest bidder? Wha...? Are you going to be paying to deport all of the Ralkovians, or would I have to do that out of my own pocket? And what happens when the colony undoubtedly rebels once it's denizens realize that they're being traded like currency?
New Greston
09-12-2008, 22:32
[[OOC: Collateral damage, Lei. A little ethnic cleansing, genocide can't hurt too much.]]
Ralkovia
09-12-2008, 22:35
(Very small amount of ralkovians who have already left the country, mostly illiterate natives who wouldn't know one regime change from another. Some don't even know ralkovia is in control and are oblivious)
New Greston
09-12-2008, 22:35
[[OOC: Before forty people rain down upon me, that is a little bit of sarcasm and was obviously a joke. Were I to buy it, I wouldn't genocide the populace. I'd do it secretly.]]
Osea 767
09-12-2008, 22:38
OOC: Greston, actually its more than that (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Corporatist+Capitalism).
Fighter4u
09-12-2008, 22:40
To:Ralkovia
From:Fighter4u

Very well. Carry on then.
La Habana Cuba
09-12-2008, 22:46
To: Fighter4U
From: Ralkovia

Heavily Encrypted

The land is full of the communist bug, instead of spending countless dollars on turning it back to the right we have decided to sell the problem.

To the ruler of Ralkovia:
Interesting, excellent room for expansion. We are the most perfect communist socialist democratic nation in the world. Even the capitalist Pigs $ pardon the pun, dig, love us $.

We will top $ and exceed any offers $. Should we not get it for obvious reasons. We will provide economic, political and social assistance to any communist socialist nation that gets it.

We will show them how to organize the greatest most efficient communist socialist democratic system of government the world has ever known.

Foreign Affairs Minister Felipe Perez Roque
LHC State Council of Ministers Collective
La Habana Cuba Socialist Demoratic Republic.

President Raul Castro Ruz
Comandante en Jefe Fidel Castro Ruz.
Zinaire
09-12-2008, 22:49
[snip]

OOC: Did you just respond IC to an encrypted message addressed to someone else?
La Habana Cuba
09-12-2008, 22:53
OOC: Did you just respond IC to an encrypted message addressed to someone else?

O0C; Dont know what encripted means. Did not mean to break any rules.
Rulkovia's comments sounded like a perfect chance to buy $ the nation.
Will delete if I have too.
Ascelonia
09-12-2008, 22:55
OOC: Debatable, your economy isn't going to fair so well if you have to draft everyone into the military and your factories have been bombed to a fine powder...

OOC: Spoils go to the victor. Bid pending.
Whiskeasy
09-12-2008, 23:07
OOC: Spoils go to the victor. Bid pending.

OOC: Bit of a gamble, could you not just cut inflation, create public works etc.
Brydog
09-12-2008, 23:08
We raise our bid to 1.95 trillion dollars
Ascelonia
09-12-2008, 23:11
To: Government of Ralkovia
From: William Percival, Office of President of Ascelonia and Office of President of Ascelonia Consolidated Industries

Ascelonia Consolidated Industries along with a number of other investors are willing to pump an upwards of twenty trillion dollars into the Ralkovian economy, as well as moving into Ralkovian markets. We will offer employment, revive banking, and stop inflation and deflation alike. ACI is also capable of establishing peace within Uruguay by sending Corporate Police there to enforce Ralkovian laws and rules for free.

What we offer is for free and we only ask that Ralkovia opens up it's markets to ACI. The government of Ascelonia also requests that we maintain a long-lasting friendship between our two nations by creating military and economic alliances, as well as promoting culture and arts of both our nations. ACI will ensure that they establish an operating wing in Ralkovia staffed completely by Ralkovian workers and employees. This will serve to employ Ralkovian workers. Commanders in the corporate police will be hired from Ascelonia while most of the corporate police will be recruited from Ralkovia. They will ensure that there are no communists or protestors against the Ralkovian government.

Sincerely,

William Percival
President of Ascelonia
President of Ascelonia Consolidate Industries
Osea 767
09-12-2008, 23:13
The Holy empire of Osea will again increase its bid, $2.8 Trillion USD, $800 Billion Economic Aid plus a Non-agression pact with Ralkovia and we will supply trained and educated personnel to assist Ralkovia in recovering economically.
Brydog
09-12-2008, 23:16
The Wolfenhaller Government raises it's bid to 3 trillion dollars.
Osea 767
09-12-2008, 23:25
We will again increase our bid, $3.1 Trillion USD, $800 Billion Economic Aid plus a Non-agression pact with Ralkovia and we will supply trained and educated personnel to assist Ralkovia in recovering economically
Brydog
09-12-2008, 23:27
We raise to 4 trillion.
La Habana Cuba
09-12-2008, 23:38
Official Post to the government of Ralkovia: We will top $ any offers $ and exceed any offers $. The people of Uruguay deserve a perfect communist socialist system of government.

We will create an orderly immigration program for those who wish to leave.

Foreign Affairs Minister Felipe Perez Roque
LHC State Council of Ministers Collective
La Habana Cuba Socialist Democratic Republic.

President Raul Castro Ruz
Comandante en Jefe Fidel Castro Ruz.
Osea 767
09-12-2008, 23:40
We will again increase our bid, $4.8 Trillion USD, $900 Billion Economic Aid plus a Non-agression pact with Ralkovia. We will supply trained and educated personnel to assist Ralkovia in recovering economically. Finally we will remove all tarrifs placed on Ralkovian goods sold in Osea.
Ascelonia
09-12-2008, 23:40
OOC: Did anyone bother to read my message? We are offering 20 trillion dollars worth of economic aid to Ralkovia and it is not even a bid to buy Uruguay.
Otagia
09-12-2008, 23:43
Rather amusing bidding war, considering it's up to 127 times the country's GDP...
Osea 767
09-12-2008, 23:47
Yes I realise that. However my nation has spare money to blow away on it and I also find this amusing.
Brydog
09-12-2008, 23:55
We raise to 10 trillion.
La Habana Cuba
10-12-2008, 00:01
OOC: The real nation of Uruguay according to Wikipedia of all sources: lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay

The real nation of Uruguay according to CIA World Factbook of all sources: lol.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/uy.html
Mokastana
10-12-2008, 00:59
OOC: Debatable, your economy isn't going to fair so well if you have to draft everyone into the military and your factories have been bombed to a fine powder...

OOC: of course, you have to be winning in order for it to work.

though on the other hand the best solution sometimes is to just eliminate the problem....

no economy = no economic problem

problem solved
Ascelonia
10-12-2008, 01:19
OOC: The real nation of Uruguay according to Wikipedia of all sources: lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguay

The real nation of Uruguay according to CIA World Factbook of all sources: lol.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/uy.html

OOC: I didn't bid, I was offering a donation of 20 trillion dollars, but for everyone else, lol.
Third Spanish States
10-12-2008, 01:34
OOC: Conquering such relatively small piece of land for NS Standards is likely more economical than matching the ridiculous value that is being bidded for it. If I had the disposition to keep up with a pace I would easily lose track of, considering that Anarchilopolis neighbors it directly, I would give a try.

Once in NSD it has been discussed how land tends to be ridiculously over-valued in II.

For example, Alaska was acquired for $7.2 million, and it's much more strategically useful than Uruguay as a territory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_purchase
New Kereptica
10-12-2008, 01:45
OOC: Adjusted for inflation, thats $105,560,872, but the point still stands.
Axis Nova
10-12-2008, 02:04
OOC: I'm quite serious about invading. The guy's a Corporate Alliance member, his nation is already human garbage as far as mine is concerned. The CA got roundly smashed by Allanea recently, so it's not going to be in much of a position to help.

And Third Spanish States, yeah, that's part of it.
Zinaire
10-12-2008, 02:11
OOC: Adjusted for inflation, thats $105,560,872, but the point still stands.

OOC: It's a steal, especially with the governor they threw in for free.
Fighter4u
10-12-2008, 02:20
OOC: I'm quite serious about invading. The guy's a Corporate Alliance member, his nation is already human garbage as far as mine is concerned. The CA got roundly smashed by Allanea recently, so it's not going to be in much of a position to help.

And Third Spanish States, yeah, that's part of it.

OOC: Heh,he also a member of the IFA and many nations outside of the IFA like me who will quite willy help him out. To get to him you have to go through me and my allies. :)
Axis Nova
10-12-2008, 02:26
OOC: Heh,he also a member of the IFA and many nations outside of the IFA like me who will quite willy help him out. To get to him you have to go through me and my allies. :)


OOC: I don't have to go 'through' anyone. I'll just assemble an orbital drop operation and drop a division or so right down into Uruguay before anyone could possibly get anything there, then rain down pod-deployed Spectre antiship missiles on anyone who sends stuff by sea to play. Once I'm there, I can continue reinforcing in the same manner, at my leisure.

You might wanna ask Blackhelm about the Spectre; Allanea used it against his navy to great effect in their recent war. :3

I'm PMT, and my major doctrine at the moment revolves around rapidly deploying small, high-tech forces anywhere in the world (excepting certain extremely mountainous areas).
Ralkovia
10-12-2008, 02:30
(LOL I do the same thing except orbital kinetic strikes, EMP, and the tactical nuclear strikes before sending my forces in. As such I already have responses to orbital troop drops)
Miroxia
10-12-2008, 02:31
has it been bought?

if not, $420 billion

from our government waste (it's not doing any good wasted)

http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Miroxia
Axis Nova
10-12-2008, 02:32
(LOL I do the same thing except orbital kinetic strikes, EMP, and the tactical nuclear strikes before sending my forces in. As such I already have responses to orbital troop drops)

OOC: Do you have a response to someone removing all of your space assets at the start of a war? I maintain orbital combatants, after all... ;p
Zinaire
10-12-2008, 02:33
has it been bought?

if not, $420 billion

from our government waste (it's not doing any good wasted)

http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=Miroxia

OOC: 1) The biding is about 10x that amount by now, 2) you can't spend government waste. It's bureaucratic overhead.
Fighter4u
10-12-2008, 02:34
OOC: I don't have to go 'through' anyone. I'll just assemble an orbital drop operation and drop a division or so right down into Uruguay before anyone could possibly get anything there, then rain down pod-deployed Spectre antiship missiles on anyone who sends stuff by sea to play. Once I'm there, I can continue reinforcing in the same manner, at my leisure.

You might wanna ask Blackhelm about the Spectre; Allanea used it against his navy to great effect in their recent war. :3

I'm PMT, and my major doctrine at the moment revolves around rapidly deploying small, high-tech forces anywhere in the world (excepting certain extremely mountainous areas).

Right....your one of those FT nations that think you belong in PMT...right....never mind then.
Miroxia
10-12-2008, 02:35
oh...defense budget? i could use it as a large military base...

$1 trillion
Axis Nova
10-12-2008, 02:36
Right....your one of those FT nations that think you belong in PMT...right....never mind then.

OOC: I don't use fancy warp drive or shields or anything silly like that. All my stuff is quite within the bounds of science, thank you very much. You're simply dismissing my doctrine because it is inconvenient for you.
Zinaire
10-12-2008, 02:36
oh...defense budget? i could use it as a large military base...

$1 trillion

OOC: $1 trillion isn't $420 billion times ten....
Miroxia
10-12-2008, 02:37
oh well...i tried my best for land expansion...and failed...
New Kereptica
10-12-2008, 02:38
OOC: Axis Nova, get out. You are PMT. This is MT. There is a distinction for a reason!
Axis Nova
10-12-2008, 02:41
OOC: Axis Nova, get out. You are PMT. This is MT. There is a distinction for a reason!

OOC: 1) The thread is not marked MT only.
2) The Corporate Alliance, of which Ralkovia is a part, is a PMT alliance.
Ralkovia
10-12-2008, 02:41
OOC: Do you have a response to someone removing all of your space assets at the start of a war? I maintain orbital combatants, after all... ;p

My appropriate response would be an anti-matter missile
Fighter4u
10-12-2008, 02:42
OOC: I don't use fancy warp drive or shields or anything silly like that. All my stuff is quite within the bounds of science, thank you very much. You're simply dismissing my doctrine because it is inconvenient for you.

Anything that not possible within 30 years is in my book FT. And its not inconvenient to me. It just seens stupid to me to have to spend so much time writing up a load BSish techongly just to counter somebody else techongly that "streches" (read is just as BS).



But whatever, your allow to do as you wish. But I only play MT so yeah.
Axis Nova
10-12-2008, 02:43
My appropriate response would be an anti-matter missile

OOC: Not possible to synthesize enough antimatter for anything but laboratory curiosity outside of FT. The only real way to produce it is via using big particle accelerators, and even then, you could only make a few atoms at a time.

Anything that not possible within 30 years is in my book FT. And its not inconvenient to me. It just seens stupid to me to have to spend so much time writing up a load BSish techongly just to counter somebody else techongly that "streches" (read is just as BS).



But whatever, your allow to do as you wish. But I only play MT so yeah.

OOC: You may wish to note that the US Marines in real life have submitted a proposal for something that can take off, go suborbital, and land somewhere else. Many nations, including MT ones, maintain such assets. This is even simpler, as it is deploying reentry-capable craft from space stations and so forth already present in space.

As an example, my comment of raining down missiles: it's done via simply attaching the missiles to a rack, and enclosing the rack in a re-entry capable shell. The shell re-enters, and once it reaches an appropriate altitude, explosive charges blow the shell off, the missiles eject from the rack, and begin seeking targets. This isn't a complex technology. The only major innovation on my part is the missile itself, and the fact that I produce the stuff in space in the first place, which helps keep costs down.
New Kereptica
10-12-2008, 02:45
OOC: 1) The thread is not marked MT only.
2) The Corporate Alliance, of which Ralkovia is a part, is a PMT alliance.

All threads are, by default, MT only. You have to mark then to distinguish. This applies to Ralkovia as well, unless he restricts himself to MT weapons. The same goes for you.
Bretton
10-12-2008, 03:01
-The IFA is a PMT/MT alliance, not an FT/Fantasy/PT Alliance. What goes on in FT/Fantasy/PT does not matter to the IFA. The furthest back in time IFA will go is about 1910.
(emphasis added)

Pardon my intrusion, but... I dunno, I guess I fail to see the problem with the relevant tech levels of involved nations.
Fighter4u
10-12-2008, 03:05
OOC: Not possible to synthesize enough antimatter for anything but laboratory curiosity outside of FT. The only real way to produce it is via using big particle accelerators, and even then, you could only make a few atoms at a time.



OOC: You may wish to note that the US Marines in real life have submitted a proposal for something that can take off, go suborbital, and land somewhere else. Many nations, including MT ones, maintain such assets. This is even simpler, as it is deploying reentry-capable craft from space stations and so forth already present in space.

As an example, my comment of raining down missiles: it's done via simply attaching the missiles to a rack, and enclosing the rack in a re-entry capable shell. The shell re-enters, and once it reaches an appropriate altitude, explosive charges blow the shell off, the missiles eject from the rack, and begin seeking targets. This isn't a complex technology. The only major innovation on my part is the missile itself, and the fact that I produce the stuff in space in the first place, which helps keep costs down.


Here on NS it considered PMT at least. So just keep that trash their and that be that. I don't care one way or the other.
Ralkovia
10-12-2008, 03:20
OOC: Not possible to synthesize enough antimatter for anything but laboratory curiosity outside of FT. The only real way to produce it is via using big particle accelerators, and even then, you could only make a few atoms at a time.


( Josh era technology. He built 58 Particle Accelerators during his time, most located in the Indonesian Island colonies, he then had several plans for ones to be built in the arctic circle of those 62 planned only 20 were accomplished. They have been running non stop since 1998, current year for ralkovia is 2015.)
New Kereptica
10-12-2008, 03:23
OOC: At that rate, it would only take a few hundred billion years to build up a gram.
Ralkovia
10-12-2008, 03:37
(I don't need a gram to spread a few like a blanket weakening missiles before they are launched)
New Kereptica
10-12-2008, 03:41
OOC: Quite. Especially considering that a single atom has the power to blow a corner off of a piece of paper.
Ralkovia
10-12-2008, 03:47
(yeah so what does 200 atoms due blow through metal....I am not talking about an anti-matter nuke. I'm talking about spraying it enough to destroy a missile)
Stoklomolvi
10-12-2008, 03:48
[OOC: NK, there is no rule anywhere stating that all threads are MT unless otherwise stated. Find me one, and I'll change my mind.

Ralk, you do realise that antimatter, upon contact with the actual casing of your missile, would detonate and kill your country in its entirety unless you somehow find a cost-efficient method to maintain a layer of plasma/whatever on the inside of your casing. It's horrendously bad. I'm not even sure any more. Agh.]
Axis Nova
10-12-2008, 04:03
OOC: As a note, one atom of antimatter would just anhillate one atom of normal matter. That's how it works. One atom for one atom. Energy is released in the process, but not that much.
Ralkovia
10-12-2008, 04:04
my point is to spray the anti-matter
Izistan
10-12-2008, 04:23
All threads are, by default, MT only. You have to mark then to distinguish. This applies to Ralkovia as well, unless he restricts himself to MT weapons. The same goes for you.

Says who?
Stoklomolvi
10-12-2008, 04:35
[OOC: Assuming, Axis, that he uses at least one gramme of antimatter, his missile would be more powerful than a nuclear bomb to a certain degree due to mass-energy equivalence.]
Axis Nova
10-12-2008, 04:44
[OOC: Assuming, Axis, that he uses at least one gramme of antimatter, his missile would be more powerful than a nuclear bomb to a certain degree due to mass-energy equivalence.]

OOC: Well, yeah, I was referring to how single atoms of antimatter work.
Oscar Wildes Minions
10-12-2008, 06:23
OOC: I find it interesting that this has become completely removed from the sale bid. Ralkovia: if the colony is so undesirable, why would anyone buy it?
Buddha C
10-12-2008, 07:48
[OOC: The U.S. has been en debt for a long time, and yet they've still managed to be a world super power for sixty years... mmm, so economic collapse isn't something I'd be so afraid of, unless you're loaning from nations that are like loan sharks.]
Ralkovia
11-12-2008, 22:44
(because you don't know its undesirable. Plus if your communist its a bonus. Uruguay is one of my forgotten colonies as I call them. It has no military or economic importance to me. The only thing it protects is Argentina, its northern half undeveloped by ralkovia, and it costs me money to protect.)
Osea 767
11-12-2008, 22:56
OOC: Ralkovia, while I am no longer bothering with bidding for Uruguay, I am still willing to give you the rest of the stuff I was offering.

IC:
While the Holy Empire of Osea has lost its interest in Uraguay, we are still willing to give Ralkovia most of what we offered as a offer of friendship between our people. We will give $900 Billion Economic Aid plus a Non-agression pact with Ralkovia. We will supply trained and educated personnel to assist Ralkovia in recovering economically. Finally we will remove all tarrifs placed on Ralkovian goods sold in Osea.
La Habana Cuba
12-12-2008, 07:09
To The Emperor of Ralkovia:

Emperor of Ralkovia, since you are not interested in your colony nation of Uruguay and have it up for bid to help your economy and debts $. Please consider our offer to match $, top $ and exceed $ any nation's bid.

What other better communist socialist nation in the world to dump it on at a great profit $ than The La Habana Cuba socialist democratic republic governed by President Raul Castro Ruz and Comandante en Jefe Fidel Castro Ruz.

We will begin an orderly immigration program for all Uruguayans of Ralkovian birth and descent who wish to emigrate to Ralkovia whenever your government is ready and prepared to recieve them back home.

You may reserve the right to refuse the entry of any Ralkovians you deem undesirable for any reasons.

Meanwhile all Ralkovians of birth and descent will be exempt from any laws passed on too the general Uruguayan native population.

We will sign an nonaggression treaty with Ralkovia and any Ralkovian allies in the region to protect any interests you may have.

Foreign Affairs Minister Felipe Perez Roque
La Habana Cuba Socialist Democratic Republic
LHC State Council of Ministers Collective.
Korintar
12-12-2008, 07:28
To: Foreign Affairs Minister Felipe Perez Roque, La Habana Cuba Socialist Democratic Republic
From: T'blis Oltavi, Director of International Affairs, The Free Democracy of Korintar

As the capitalist pigs, as their name implies, have vastly more wealth than either of us, I suggest we pool our resources and form a joint government over Uruguay, if Ralkovia gives it to us. For though it may be of economic detriment to Ralkovia to hold this area, it may be in both our interests to occupy this area. I do believe that we can work with the natives to form a more just, stable government than Ralkovia ever could, as we are both proudly socialist democracies.
Ascelonia
12-12-2008, 22:41
To: Government of Ralkovia
From: William Percival, Office of President of Ascelonia and Office of President of Ascelonia Consolidated Industries

Ascelonia Consolidated Industries along with a number of other investors are willing to pump an upwards of twenty trillion dollars into the Ralkovian economy, as well as moving into Ralkovian markets. We will offer employment, revive banking, and stop inflation and deflation alike. ACI is also capable of establishing peace within Uruguay by sending Corporate Police there to enforce Ralkovian laws and rules for free.

What we offer is for free and we only ask that Ralkovia opens up it's markets to ACI. The government of Ascelonia also requests that we maintain a long-lasting friendship between our two nations by creating military and economic alliances, as well as promoting culture and arts of both our nations. ACI will ensure that they establish an operating wing in Ralkovia staffed completely by Ralkovian workers and employees. This will serve to employ Ralkovian workers. Commanders in the corporate police will be hired from Ascelonia while most of the corporate police will be recruited from Ralkovia. They will ensure that there are no communists or protestors against the Ralkovian government.

Sincerely,

William Percival
President of Ascelonia
President of Ascelonia Consolidate Industries

OOC: Our offer still stands.
Korintar
13-12-2008, 00:32
To: Ralkovian government
From: Sr. Dir. Salazar, Director of Human Services, FDK
We are prepared to offer the services of our top notch government accountants. It has been noted that your nation is known for its large defense budget, not so much education, however Korintar is known for its spending on public education- thus our accountants should be of a quality so that your budget problems will be history. Furthermore we are willing to pay the equivalent of $200,000 ralkovian in dinaros per sq mi, plus 7% of the territory's GDP over the next twenty five years, and 18% over the next fifty. We would appreciate a map of the territory, including cities, bays, roads, and mountains, so we can do a proper geological survey to calculate the potential value we can attain from the land and labor force. We will build schools and send over 1790 teachers to improve literacy, as it has been hinted that the populace is not well educated. We also intend to expand public works projects so that a greater amount of wealth can be generated. To maintain security we will establish a permanent garrison of 325000 soldiers, upon your approval. With the recent WA free trade resolution passed, we are willing to suspend our policy, in part, that puts an embargo on all nonleftist nations to allow your nation to engage in trade with us, the only restriction is that ralkovian corporations may not own either factories or mines nor farms on Korintari soil, as to do so would violate Korintari law. This will be a mutual trade restriction as Korintari government factories, mines, and farms cannot be established on foreign soil, however we will regard Uruguay as joint territory so both nations may permit their businesses to set up shop on Uruguain (?) soil.
Ascelonia
13-12-2008, 02:10
To: Government of Ralkovia
From: Cedric Layham, Office of President of Ascelonia and Office of President of Ascelonia Consolidated Industries

My predecessor's offer still stands. We are willing to offer you such money not for Uruguay, but the rights to build factories and expand businesses into your country. We will appoint Ralkovian regional leaders to oversee our operations and ensure that no biases are made by ACI. We are dismayed by (we have intercepted a few replies) the attempts to profit from your nation's troubled times.

Ascelonia intends to hand large amounts of shares of ACI once the operation is completed so that Ralkovia runs the ACI divisions operating within their country and so that the Ralkovian economy remains autonomous. We intend to annihilate the terrorist activity existing in Uruguay free of any cost to the Ralkovian government. Ascelonia will focus on rehabilitating Ralkovia and rebuilding it into a strong trading partner.
Korintar
13-12-2008, 05:59
To the Ralkovian Imperial authorities,
Why trust Ascelonia? Their government obviously, for we are always intercepting messages, is working for every corporate crook on the planet, bent on exploiting the people of Uruguay, as well as your nation's financial fiasco. We find this morally abhorent as a traditionally rather religious nation, as it is morally wrong to take advantage, and add to, people's suffering for short term gain. Do not worry, we can deal with terrorists, provided we are able to gather some intelligence which includes ideological and theological beliefs. You need not worry, we can get you back on your financial footing...this gives Korintar's accountants a challenge they can sink their teeth into, so we have gotten many, highly qualified, accountants who are willing to do this on a pro bono basis, if you're interested.- T'blis Oltavi, Timothy Salazar, Cheri Konstado, Septronicus Mekana, and the rest of the Korintari Directory
Ascelonia
14-12-2008, 00:00
*Heavily Encoded*

To: Government of Ralkovia
From: Cedric Layham, Office of President of Ascelonia and Office of President of Ascelonia Consolidated Industries

As you are currently aware of our nation's unstable position and intense corruption, we would like to let you know that a bunch of Korintar accountants are not going to make much of a difference. Ascelonia uses electronic accountants, which you can assign Ralkovian technicians to check for fradulent programming. Such accountants are faultless, require no pay, and are not corrupt.

We doubt that their government is capable of supplying money and competing against ACI, a multi-trillion dollar industrial giant. ACI pumps out superior products and services faster than the two billion people of Korintar could ever dream of. Korintar will attempt to change your nation into something it's not. Corporate crooks? Hah! The ACI is highly decentralized. I only act as a spokesperson for the company. We will not exploit the catastrophe. In fact, what we look forward to is rebuilding Ralkovia into a powerful trading partner. Ralkovia as an ally would be much stronger than Ralkovia as a puppet.

Accountants? How can they even work under a command economy? There's no competition. No motivation. Korintar's lack of understanding can be seen in the fact that they still consider your nation under the leadership of an emperor, when in fact it is holding elections as we speak. Please, choose our offer over theirs. We will do anything to win the hearts and minds of the people of Ralkovia.
Korintar
14-12-2008, 04:22
To: President Thomas Washington, President of Ralkovia
From: Director Emeritus Zakir Myosin Sezadu III
I congratulate thee on thy recent electoral victory! From the transmissions that hath been recieved, methinks mine successors art idiots. Oy vey, dis current generacion ist hopeless, indeed! Now seriously, I have been around, honorable sir long enough to negotiate with any world leader. I think thee should meditate on the offer we hath proposed and digest it carefully as anybody's. I understand Ascelonia uses advanced computre technology to calculate expenses and budgets. Howe'er I hath but one concern- the algorithms. Are they using the right algorithms in their financial calculations? Have they considered the minuitae that go into determining economic health and stability? I do not believe they have. To fully understand the emergent nature of a nation's financial system, divergent thinking is needed, nay most essential, this is something only living beings, not mere machines can do, at least not to the degree necessary. How do I know these things, thy honorable sir? Korintar too uses such computre technology for financial matters, but we make sure that the algorithms fit the times, even if the standard algorithms cannot explain the phenomena. In such instances, our accountants, theoretical financial scientists, actually, make fine observations of the conditions, determine relationships, develop rules, tweek them to see if they can acurrately predict recent events and potentially beneficial outcomes through realistic plans. Again we congratulate you, and I will kill ;) the younger Directors in my country, if you need help in anyway we are prepared to provide it.

occ: sorry for double post.
Ascelonia
14-12-2008, 19:24
To: Cedric Layham, Office of President of Ascelonia and Office of President of Ascelonia Consolidated Industries
From: Dzytul Mrino, CCC secretary-general, Korintari Popular Assembly

As a representative of the voice of the Korintari people I must inform you that Korintar is not a traditional "command economy". We follow the participatory economic model for our economic system. Thus there is motivation to work hard as remuneration is based upon effort and sacrifice- that is all. Also it must be noted that the accountants are part of our civil service, which is meritocratic in nature. This is very important, as advancement is based solely on merit in the bureacratic aspect of this nation. Thus if a government official fails to do his or her duty, they will be immediately transferred to another government office where their talents may be better utilized or kicked out of the civil service to work in one of the co-ops. Trust us there is individual incentive to do well. Also, unlike capitalist countries, we have something called social striving, but low levels of social loafing as there is no incentive to not do work as you will not be paid as well if you do not give the full energy that you are capable of. Even my friends in the Liberty Alliance, another faction in the assembly, would admit that people have motivation, even though there is not established competition in the form of corporations...all they wish to see is deregulation- a valid claim and a greater level of privatization- which may happen at some point, but we will probably still keep much of the egalitarian structure in the private sector. We also intend to do whate'er it takes to persuade our Ralkovian compatriots.

OOC: Please delete this message. My message was heavily encrypted. You may have intercepted it, but it would take months for someone who intercepts it to understand the code.
Korintar
14-12-2008, 20:21
OOC: I will edit references to your missive out to make it seem like my computers could not encrypt it- sorry. Second post is okay though, as reference to reading intelligence files on your country, right?
Ascelonia
14-12-2008, 20:26
OOC: I will edit references to your missive out to make it seem like my computers could not encrypt it- sorry. Second post is okay though, as reference to reading intelligence files on your country, right?

OOC: It's okay. Lol. We've been at each other's throats. Let's get in the spirit of the holidays.
Korintar
14-12-2008, 21:52
OOC: Yeah, it's Christmas afterall, besides we are in the same economic organization (CMEA), if I recall:)

IC:
Sr. Dir. Timothy Salazar stood up and proceeded to speak to the other directors sitting around the Tikuba table, "friends, Sezadu is angry at us...AGAIN! We may not be able to outbid Ascelonia or any of the other countries, except La Habana Cuba, but we have one thing I doubt those other countries have... a tradition of administrative excellence that is nonpariel. We could offer the complete services of our government to Ralkovia. It may set us back, but recieving Uruguay will make up for it."
"How's that? How are we to benefit," asked Security Director Cheri Konstado.
"T'blis?"
"We shall benefit by establishing a relationship with an emerging democracy. Ralkovia has a strong military force, that with president Washington in power, we can rely upon if threatened. In return we reformat the budget for them so that their finances are sound. We get Uruguay in exchange, which we can greatly improve the standard of living of, and wipe out terrorists so it becomes a prosperous, safe region. One which will have mutual benefits to all three sides: Korintari, Uruguayan, and Ralkovian."
With this the Directory drafted a proposal to be voted on in the Congresses.

After a vote of 325000 to 175000 in the Popular Assembly and vote of 2600 to 2400 in the Senate, it was referred to the people to vote (300 mil votes cast rounded):
Directory plan: 37 mil
Senate plan: 50 mil
Assembly plan:50 mil
Composite A: 41 mil
Composite B: 50 mil
No confidence: 45 mil
With a three way tie these plans went back to the assemblies and the Senate plan and Composite B plan were brought back to the Directory which accepted the Senate plan.
SENATE PLAN:
$450 million up front, with $900 million upon gaining access to Uruguay
35 yr, nonconditional, nonagression pact
open borders to Ralkovian retail companies w/ Korintar selling beef, grain, and jumbojets.
Ralkovia becomes a priority partner- same status as most leftist democracies
binary-state organization of administrative/judicial system at national level for Uruguay
45 accountants (A+10G-6, best of the best in Korintar) to supervise budget making process for Ralkovia- help develop a 12 year financial stability plan for implementation
Tribute of 10% of Uruguayan GDP goes to Ralkovia during first 15 years, with 15% during the following 65 years.
Fighter4u
14-12-2008, 22:12
OOC: Koristar you do relase that Ralkovia is still a fasict governemnt. Just now its is a elected fasict government? And that all of the partys that ran for election have extreme right wing belifs in their party platforms that are probably break every human right their is?
Korintar
15-12-2008, 00:31
OOC: I recognize its interesting past but from doing research, I have hope that the Liberty Party suggests a reform towards democracy- it's a start, not perfect, but it's a start. Though Korintar is socialist, we can work with the Liberty government. The actions are not popular, as noted in the voting. We generally try to do things by concensus decision making or try to get supermajorities to approve bills if they require a vote. Methinks riots will happen very soon... they always do!
Korintar
15-12-2008, 20:48
The Free Gazette
Riots in Mekrindiv, Atenou, and Korintopoli force government to reconsider land deal Tobias Mrinzo

Intense rioting broke out two days after the Senatorial Ralkovian Relief and Peaceable Purchase Act became law. Christian anarchists have taken to the streets and shut down the capitals until the Directors rescind their offer. People, such as popular assembly members in the Christian Communist Coalition, have demanded the Zakir Sezadu come out of retirement to take back the reins of the Directory. Others, such as the leftist elements of the Liberty Alliance, have demanded a recall en masse for the Directory, Senate, and People's Assembly. The anarchists, on the other hand have pushed for an initiative, which will be, under the current circumstances, referred to the people to vote, that calls for an immediate constitutional convention to replace the current constitution.

OoC: FDK + Ralkovia= FAIL, I am outa here!