McCarthyist Party Banned
Brystolville
07-12-2008, 17:48
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Brystolville Broadcasting Service
Pelham-Norfolk, Portchester, Brystolville
Last night, Parliament ruled in the McCarthyism Act of 2008 that the McCarthyist Party of Brystolville is, from this point on, barred from obtaining seats in either the National or County Parliaments.
"The McCarthyist Party has a dangerous ideology that endangers the open social democratic system that we have worked so hard to build in Brystolville," said William Kelsey of Labour, "The ideals of that party were so extremist and threatening that we saw no alternative but to ban it from Parliament. It is the only way to ensure the safety of Brystolian citizens."
The McCarthyism Act does more than exclude the MCP from elections. Starting Tuesday, officials from the Ministry of Internal Affairs will begin searches of MCP headquarters in Pelham-Norfolk in Portchester County. All known members of the McCarthyist Party have had their passports deactivated and are being placed under house arrest until further notice.
"As soon as we have access to party records," said Kelsey, "We will begin tracking down donors and affiliates of the MCP. The Act has rightly classified them as conspirators for domestic terrorism, which enables Parliament to begin blacklisting and deportation of these fascists."
The McCarthyist Party of Brystolville was established in 1956. It holds a single seat in the House of Deputies (The lower house of the Brystolian Parliament), and a single seat in the Parliament of Portchester.
Although the MCP is not a member of the Alliance for Brystollian Liberty (The coalition in opposition to Labour), leaders of numerous ABL parties, namely the Libertarians, Liberal Conservatives, Monarchists, and Republicans, have spoken out against the Act, calling it "The beginning of a new age in Labour's underhanded politics", and "The birth pangs of a single-party state". At this point, neither National (The largest ABL party), nor ABL as a whole have made a formal statement.
Brystolville
07-12-2008, 23:23
bump
Ralkovia
07-12-2008, 23:30
Ralkovia is more than willing to take the McCarthyist Party individuals to ralkovia.
Brogavia
07-12-2008, 23:41
OOC: So let me get this straight, You are outlawing a politcal group, holding its members without a trial, denying them due proccess all in the name of freedom? I am the only one that sees the hypocrisy here?
Ralkovia
07-12-2008, 23:54
(He's socialist it doesn't have to make sense)
Brystolville
08-12-2008, 01:01
We warn the Ralkovian government that these individuals are regressive, uncivilised, and unstable. We reccomend that they be kept under close supervision when they arrive in your territory.
Anagonia
08-12-2008, 01:02
Anagonian News Network
ANN Breaking News
The screen comes from a twirling logo of the three letters of ANN to a middle-aged man in a middle-class suit shuffling some papers. The theme of ANN finishes, and he gazes directly at the screen as a sliding picture of Brystolville appears beside him. Below two tickers slowly goes past, one showing National News updates concerning the three provinces of Anagonia, the top showing stock reports and numbers of a growing economy. He clears his throat, and begins the report.
"Good evening Anagonia and our International audiences. I'm Jeffery Rollins for ANN, and this is Breaking News."
The screen changes to a video of Brystolville, showing its cities and government houses. Jeffery continues to talk as the viewers glimpse the beauty of Brystolville. "Today, the Government of Brystolville banned the McCarthyist Party of Brystolville stating that it has a dangerous ideology that more or less threatens the Brystolville way of life."
The screen returns to Jeffery sitting behind the desk, beside him an image of the Anagonian Chief Governor's Office replacing the image of Brystolville. "The Office of the Chief Governor made no official comment on the Brystolian affair. One aide unofficially stated that from her standpoint, this matter had no impact on Anagonian Internal or Foreign affairs at this time."
The screen returns to a full view of Jeffery Rollins, who is looked at from a different angle. "In other news, Drekamythia has won in the National Military Competition in New Union..."
Brystolville
08-12-2008, 01:02
We warn the Ralkovian government that these individuals are regressive, uncivilised, and unstable. We reccomend that they be kept under close supervision when they arrive in your territory.
Ralkovia
08-12-2008, 02:17
We warn the Ralkovian government that these individuals are regressive, uncivilised, and unstable. We reccomend that they be kept under close supervision when they arrive in your territory.
(Ralkovia is fascist by the way, but a very nice fascist.)
Ralkovia will beware.
The Grand World Order
08-12-2008, 02:29
Official Response of the Fascist Federation
The oppression of Fascists in your nation has not gone unnoticed. You have exactly 24 hours within opening this message to cease your actions against Fascists before a blockade is established around your country. Immediate cessation of activities against Fascism will result in cancellation of the blockade.
Thank you.
Romandeos
08-12-2008, 02:32
Diplomatic Statement
Romandeos would be willing to allow members of the McCarthyist Part to live in Romandeosian territory, as well as individuals who have supported it, or given it donations. We regard the actions taken against the McCarthyists as horrible in the extreme. Regardless we shall take no action against the administration responsible for them at this time.
~ Imperial Diplomatic Representative Charles Goodman
Rotovia-
08-12-2008, 02:33
Newspaper exert
The Athenian Daily
Brystoling the Foreign Ministry
Brystolville was officially listed by Foreign Protocol and Diplomatic Relations Office (Protocol Office) as a "nation hostile to democracy" resulting from a recent move by the notoriously iron-fisted Labour regime. The Labour government took the extraordinary steps of banning a political party on ideological grounds and then, contrary to international law, banishing them to a fascist state.
Dr Sarah Hours, former President, who has returned to the role of Minister for Foreign Affairs after her government was brought down by a no-confidence motion of their own party, had no comment on the matter.
Bluth Corporation
08-12-2008, 03:20
PRESS RELEASE
DATE: March 21, Year 72 16:51
LOCATION: Newport Beach, Shostakovich, Bluth Corporation
The government of the Huge Mistake of Bluth Corporation has just learned of the latest in a series of wholesale violations of sacred natural individual rights to take place in Brystolville, and wishes to express its condemnation of said actions in the gravest possible terms. Starting Quarterback Peyton Manning #18 has instructed Diplomacy Department Captain Jeffrey Saturday #63 to withdraw any diplomatic presence that we may have in Brystolville, and Courts Department Captain Dallas Clark #44 is preparing a case to have the leadership of Brystolville's government tried in abstentia on charges of slavery and murder of the human spirit.
We express our wholehearted support to the victims of this horrendous act by the despicably collectivist government of Brystolville, and welcome any individual seeking asylum.
East Congaree
08-12-2008, 03:29
From: East Congaree Executive Office
To: Brystolville Office of Foreign Affairs
You have 16 hours to allow the Mcarthy party to have parliamentary seats again, award them five seats in each house of parliament as damages, and contribute 2 Billion dollars to them, or face a naval blockade. Do not search their buildings, and lift all threats of house arrest. If you go through on these two, further punishment will take place.
East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and President- Reginald Deere
Beth Gellert
08-12-2008, 03:58
Reaction from the Indian Soviet Commonwealth of Beddgelert
A Soviet Consul dispatched to Brystolville in light of what is regarded as a serious developing situation has asked, on behalf of Gadar! ('Revolution!', the Beddgelen state media entity), whether there are plans for new elections to the two vacated parliamentary seats created by the outlawing of the reactionary McCarthyist Party. Beddgelens hope that the people formerly represented by the McCarthyist members will not be long neglected in government.
In discussions at the Final Soviet, several speakers have attacked East Congaree and The Grand World Order as upstart little backwaters over their threats. Comrade Adiatorix, who held the floor for some time, posed the question, thus far unanswered, "Will they find the time to blockade the sub-continent in light of our nation's stance of McCarthyism?"
It has been indicated by Adiatorix, an influential man in the Commonwealth Guard's policy making, that Soviet ships may attempt to run any fascist blockade enforced against Brystolville in this matter. Whether the comrade actually meant attempt to run rather than massacre is up for debate.
Niraamaya
08-12-2008, 04:05
(OOC: Could I launch a covert operation to evacuate them from your country?)
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A political party has been banned in Brystolville today, known as the McCarthyist Party. Last night, Brystolville's Parliament ruled in the McCarthyism Act of 2008 that the McCarthyist Party of Brystolville is, from this point on, barred from obtaining seats in either the National or County Parliaments. "The McCarthyist Party has a dangerous ideology that endangers the open social democratic system that we have worked so hard to build in Brystolville," said William Kelsey of Labour, "The ideals of that party were so extremist and threatening that we saw no alternative but to ban it from Parliament. It is the only way to ensure the safety of Brystolian citizens."
The McCarthyism Act does more than exclude the MCP from elections. Starting Tuesday, Brystolville officials will begin searches of MCP headquarters in Pelham-Norfolk in Portchester County. All known members of the McCarthyist Party have had their passports deactivated and are being placed under house arrest until further notice.
The Act has rightly classified them as conspirators for domestic terrorism, which enables Parliament to begin blacklisting and deportation of this party.
The official government stance is that they are "totally opposed" to their decision. The President himself passed a controversial, like most of his announcements, saying, quote, "The McCarthyists might be huge assholes, but that doesn't mean that they should be banned. Let them be lulzcows as they feebly attempt to win over the masses with a fascist ideology." In related news, Parliament has been debating if they should impeach the President for his rude and sometimes dangerous statements.
In other news, ed, edd & eddy has been declared the "Most Popular Children's Show...
New Greston
09-12-2008, 01:48
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Covering Story: McCarthyist Party of Brystolville Banned
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Parliamentarian Geoffery Howeth Sheperd, of Labour, brings to the topic to the media's attention
The Imperial Republic places Brystollian Government's actions on trial.
The McCarthyist Party, an extremist fascist idealogic party in Brystolville was barred by the Brystollian Government from participating in any further Parliament elections. Furthermore, all party members and major donaters have been placed under house arrest by the government.
"The McCarthyist Party has a dangerous ideology that endangers the open social democratic system that we have worked so hard to build in Brystolville," said William Kelsey of Labour, "The ideals of that party were so extremist and threatening that we saw no alternative but to ban it from Parliament. It is the only way to ensure the safety of Brystolian citizens."
The Imperial Government expressed strong concerns about the Grestonian justice process, accusing the proceedings of being "inequitable and a violation of basic civil rights."
"Regardless of whatever negative public opinion is incurred by this individual party, they do have the basic human right of a fair trial," the Grestonian ambassador in Pelham-Norfolk stated to the GNNN. "The law exists not to single individuals out for extraordinary punishment, but to impartially and equitably address wrongs; as far as I can see, the former is the case in Brystonville at the moment."
Since the Brystonville up date, numerous nations, IFA member state nations in paticular, with extreme fascist idealologies, have threatened a possible blockade and an impending war. As word came to the Striker Administration of such an event there has been rumors of possible Grestonian intervention.
As of now there is no official goverment stance as to the IFA's possible information, but from an anonomous, reliable source from within the administation has said, and is qouted here, "I'm not sure what Striker's is going to do with such a situation. It is a well known fact that the Grestonian-IFA relations is not the best it can be, in fact it is worse than the Greston-Pictish relations before the Parthan War, and I am quite sure that Striker, or perhaps Mr. Richardson, will attempt to intervene with fascist fleet positioning were they to blockade or attack."
As further information and reports stream in, concurrent to this topic, the GNNN will update.
© GNNN Newscast
8 - 12 - 2010
The Grand World Order
09-12-2008, 02:21
To: Brystolville
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
This is your final chance. Cease the acts against the Fascists or face an economic depression. Our fleets are already prepared to sail to the international waters outside of your nation.
((OOC: Our ships would stay in international waters and let vital things through such as food, oil, etc., but no luxuries.))
Stoklomolvi
09-12-2008, 03:00
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Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Stoklomolvi Federation
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi Federation
Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: The Grand World Order
Subject: General Statement
This is your final chance. Cease the acts against Brystolville or face an economic depression. Our fleets are ready to stomp on your country as we speak.
So seriously, now, GWO, GTFO from this planet.
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The Grand World Order
09-12-2008, 03:03
To: Stoklomolvi
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
Below is a picture of five inches of Russian artillery waving around.
[Enclosed is a video of some random Russian man waving a five inch penis around while going "GOOGIDDY GOOGIDDY HEE HEE HOO!"]
Leistung
09-12-2008, 03:03
OOC: McCarthyist as in Senator McCarthy the anti-commie? Just for the record, the United States of America does not exist in NS.
EDIT: GWO, I'm sure that's exactly what a national government would send in a transmission...
The Grand World Order
09-12-2008, 03:06
((OOC: Trust me, I've ICly received that same stuff when dealing with nations like Stok in the past. Doesn't matter anyways, does it?))
Stoklomolvi
09-12-2008, 03:09
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Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Stoklomolvi Federation
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi Federation
Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: The Grand World Order
Subject: General Statement
We laugh at the plight of your males, who apparently have short...tools.
We will use force if necessary to remove your silly blockade.
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The Grand World Order
09-12-2008, 03:11
To: Stoklomolvi
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
Clearly, you must notice the man is Russian, which we all know is generally the minority of European races in the GWO. Besides, some women like small artillery cannons.
Ralkovia
09-12-2008, 03:19
To: [open]
From: Ralkovia
After examining the video many many times I believe we have an appropriate response.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5j3P3tPfSo
Stoklomolvi
09-12-2008, 03:27
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Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Stoklomolvi Federation
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi Federation
Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: The Grand World Order
Subject: General Statement
One more unintelligent response and we will nuke you to kingdom come.
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[OOC: This is only a threat. And if you ignore this, then fo reals gtfo for being a hypocrite: you launched a huge wave of nukes in my civil war.]
Clandonia Prime
09-12-2008, 03:27
Statement of His Majesty's Imperial Crown Government
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Open Declaration:
His Majesty's Government is appalled by the belligerent actions conducted by the government of Brystolville and their attempts to silence the voice of democracy. HMG is a prominent supporter for the spread of liberal democratic institutions and free market capitalism. Old enemies of the free world, Stoklomolvi and Beddgelert-both communist tyrannies. If Royal Naval squadron is deployed then any attempt to attack or harass Royal Navy vessels or aircraft will result in severe repressions to the guilty state. I need not remind nations of the strength and power that the Royal Navy is capable of projecting, sinking every ship that bears the flag of an enemy belligerent that conducts hostile actions against the Crown and her Royal Georgian League allies is well within our means.
God Save the King
Prime Minister Sir David Sistilin
Rykarian Territories
09-12-2008, 03:29
To: [open]
From: Ralkovia
After examining the video many many times I believe we have an appropriate response.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5j3P3tPfSo
(OOC: Hey, i sent GWO that video on MSN.)
Leistung
09-12-2008, 03:29
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To: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
From: Office of Frau Zimmerman
Subj: Humanitarian crisis in Brystolville
We find it not just hard to believe, but rather completely insane that your nation seeks to doom the people of Brystolville for such a triviality. Not only has your response shown a wanton disregard for human life, but it borders on the criminal--shutting down the entire country of Brystolville? How will the people afford food? Shelter? And for that matter, how will you differentiate food shipments from other shipments if you plan on choking off the nation's industry?
If you plan on blockading this nation and condemning its people to death, you best be prepared for free people everywhere to take notice. If you indeed blockade Brystolville, we will find ways to ship supplies in, whether you approve or not.
Cordially,
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Emilie Zimmerman
Head of the Black Cross Humanitarian Agency
New Greston
09-12-2008, 03:30
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Covering Story: McCarthyist Party of Brystolville Banned Continued
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GMNS Tolerator being launched
Striker Administation authorizes launching of thirty vessels to Brystonville.
After further, more fiery lambasting by the extremist fascist nation, the Grand World Order, against Brystonville, was the cause for over thirty surface ships of the Grestonian Imperial Navy to be deployed.
"This is your final chance. Cease the acts against the Fascists or face an economic depression," insisted GWO political leader, General Griffith III, "Our fleets are already prepared to sail to the international waters outside of your nation."
The Commander of the GMNS Tolerator, Commodore Alitsair Tiere, said quite frankly to GNNN before his departure, "I am sure that this war can be resolved with relative little blood being spilt. All in the name of freedom might I add that every war has been waged, it is simply time for such to come around again."
The fleet will be arriving shortly behind the IFA fleet and will attempt to put a peaceful end their imperialistic warmongering.
"I am in no mood to wage a crusade against the IFA," said Foreign Minister Michael Richardson, "I am however, in the mood to spill some fascist blood upon that clear blue ocean abroad Brystonville."
Until future updates, it is with sincere remorse that the GNNN informs the Grestonian populace that the Imperial Republic is, once again, entering a war, however small it may be.
© GNNN Newscast
8 - 12 - 2010
East Congaree
09-12-2008, 03:31
From: East Congaree Executive Office
To: Brystolville Department of Foreign Affairs
Your idiocy has not gone unnoticed. We will begin sending forces to send your economy into a death fall.
East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and President- Reginald Deere
Norfolk, East Congaree
300 Jianghu-I Class frigates, 250 Kashin Class destroyers, and 50 Whiskey class submarines headed for the Brystolville coast, where they would spread out and prevent ships from entering or exiting Brystolville waters.
Stoklomolvi
09-12-2008, 03:42
[OOC: EC, where do you even get these ships from? Magic?]
Ralkovia
09-12-2008, 03:47
(Hey east do you want me to take over the occupation of Penguin Protection so you can send your extra ships and fleet over to Brystolville. You can come back and claim part of it later. I got a whole lotta arctic troops stationed over their doing nothing)
The Grand World Order
09-12-2008, 04:03
((OOC: He has virtually no army other than an insanely crappy (No offense to j00, EC) outfit with Lee Enfield rifles, so he makes up for it via Navy.
Also, Greston his name is Grand Commander GRIFFITH-II (GRIFFITH-III will be our next ruler, should II ever die) D:>))
International Waters
Admiral Griffin Yeats was standing aboard his Dreadnought, the FWS Benito Mussolini. Legions upon legions of CIWS systems and vert-launch tubes sat on that ship, defending him and the fleet from mostly anything. The ship wasn't bogged down with useless heavy armor; everyone knew that even an air-launched anti-shipping missile could easily take a Super Dreadnought out. The main ships of the fleet (Aside from logistics, of course) came in the form of T-212 submarines and specialized ASW Destroyers. Of course, the GWO was well aware that the International Community wouldn't take kindly to this blockade, so he had other ships with him as well.
((ORBAT, aside from Logistics:
-1x Dreadnought
-1x Battleship
-4x Battlecruisers
-4x GWO-edition Akula Submarines
-12x Type 212 Submarines
-15x ASW Destroyers
-5x Anti-Air Destroyers
-2x Nimitz Aircraft Carriers
-20x Cruisers
-25x Frigates
-110x F-22Ns
-10x Growler Electronic Warfare Planes
-40x F-35s
-x5 Kaman ASW Helicopters
I prolly forgot something in there like an idiot.))
Imperial isa
09-12-2008, 04:09
ooc so where is the OP? when you like to see what they say
Leistung
09-12-2008, 04:17
I prolly forgot something in there like an idiot.
OOC: No offense, but that's one of the vaguest ORBATs I've ever seen. What classes of battleships, battlecruisers, destroyers, frigates? Are you planning on supplying your ships somehow?
The Grand World Order
09-12-2008, 04:21
((OOC: If you noticed, I said aside from Logistics, because they have almost no combat value. And I haven't taken the time to name my classes of ships, but they're all pretty similar; they have light armor but massive amounts of CIWS systems and vert-launch tubes, seeing as the weight isn't bogging them down.))
Clandonia Prime
09-12-2008, 04:22
((OOC: If you noticed, I said aside from Logistics, because they have almost no combat value. And I haven't taken the time to name my classes of ships, but they're all pretty similar; they have light armor but massive amounts of CIWS systems and vert-launch tubes, seeing as the weight isn't bogging them down.))
OOC: VLS and weapon systems are bloody heavy still...
Leistung
09-12-2008, 04:24
((OOC: If you noticed, I said aside from Logistics, because they have almost no combat value. And I haven't taken the time to name my classes of ships, but they're all pretty similar; they have light armor but massive amounts of CIWS systems and vert-launch tubes, seeing as the weight isn't bogging them down.))
OOC: Displacement? Speed? Range? Propulsion? Radar? Sonar? Fire control? Air wing? Guns? Missiles? Torpedoes? Exact CIWS numbers? Countermeasures? Chaff? Electronic warfare?
The Grand World Order
09-12-2008, 04:37
((OOC: @ CP: I know that, but not as heavy as multiple layers of heavy armor.
@ Leistung: I'm not a Naval Warfare expert, but you can assume that my ships are, for the most part, similar to the ships belonging to the US and German Navies. Of course, RADAR is your typical "I can see your Spirit Bomber" RADAR that everyone in NS has. Most of my ships are nuclear powered, considering the fact that nuclear energy is our second best industry. Of course, with the smaller vessels, they're conventionally powered. Each ship carries a varying amount of systems, but it's multi-layered; PHALANX, Goalkeeper, Metal Storm, and THEL are placed on each ship. The MS and THEL systems are actually very light, considering that typical trucks can tow them around.
I'm not entirely sure whether all of that matters as much as the RP; you see, when it comes to Navies, I'm like AMF claims he is (At least I remember him doing so); focused more on the RP than the technicalities. It shouldn't matter nearly as much if I have heated cup holders or this specific targeting system; as long as they're modern and my sailors know how to use them, they're generally the same for everyone on NS.))
Eurasian Socialist Rep
09-12-2008, 04:49
Greetings Comrades!
I come with a single question: what good has McCarthyism create in our world? It is an inferior ideology that espouses the most offensive nonsense. It treats anti-Communism as a religion, worshiping its leader as much as its follower's false "God." They worship money as if it is the key to happiness, while grinding those who truly create wealth, the laborers, into the dust! Can we reason with these people? Are these people we want to reason with? The answer is irrefutably no. They seek only to further themselves at the expense of others, they must be destroyed.
As such, Brystolville is perfectly within its rights to exterminate these pathetic terrorists and fear-mongers. Any nation that interferes is aiding and abetting the oppression of the greater Human race, and must be destroyed. Any nation that seeks to attack Brystolville will find legions of Eurasians standing against them, an endless sea of weaponry against the militaristic egos in our world.. We will fight Industrialists and Imperialists, Capitalists and the Bourgoise, on every front. We shall crush your air forces, sink your navies, and bombard your armies into oblivion beneath the inevitable march of global socialism.
I am authorizing the dispatch of a military force to Brystolville. The People's Army shall travel there in strength, and defend it to the last breath! ONWARDS COMRADES OF THE REVOLUTION! DEATH TO CAPITALISM!
-Aleksandra Gorbachova, Premier of the Union of Eurasian Socialist Republics
ooc:
Clandonia_Prime, Leistung, don't be pedantic. They're ships, as such they sink when shot. Shoot at them if you want to kill them. Doesn't matter if it's a Burke or a Fletcher, it will go down if hit hard enough. Clandonia_Prime, do you remember the old adage about how it doesn't matter if it's an arrow or a dual charged particle beam, dead is dead? (I'm misquoting it horribly, that might be from before your time) Long story short, stop obsessing over technology and start RPing.
GWO: that's fine. Don't claim invincible ships. Everyone else has the same stuff on their designs.
The Grand World Order
09-12-2008, 05:12
((OOC: I never was; and that was the point I was getting at, lul.))
To: Eurasian Socialist Republic
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
With an economy as horrible as yours, we doubt your troops would even dare to stand against our legions of killing machines. Can your government even afford more than five warships?
Eurasian Socialist Rep
09-12-2008, 05:16
To the Office of Foreign Affairs, The Grand World Order,
With such atrocities against civil and political rights, would your army even fight for you? With such an oppressed populace, would they fight or flee before the inexorable tide of Eurasia? Be warned, we are strong in our convictions and pure in our minds; we shall exterminate oppression from the earth.
-Aleksandra Gorbachova, Premier of the Union of Eurasian Socialist Republics
ooc: sure, works for me :D
East Congaree
09-12-2008, 05:19
Off the Coast of Norfolk, East Congaree
The fleet proceeded onwards towards Brystolville.
The Grand World Order
09-12-2008, 05:20
To: The Eurasian Socialist Republic
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
Of course, as they're fellow Fascists. And even if we didn't have our conventional military to fight for us, we could simply dispatch the Special Tactics Force to fight off your horribly made military. Hell, the mere Spire staff alone could probably fight them off!
Bluth Corporation
09-12-2008, 05:50
PRESS RELEASE
DATE: April 3, Year 72 13:55
LOCATION: Newport Beach, Shostakovich, Bluth Corporation
Bluth Corporation Courts Department Team Captain Dallas Clark #44 has announced that formal arrest warrants for the entire government of Brystolville have been issued. "The citizens of Brystolville are urged to hand over Labour Party leaders to Bluth Corporation to be tried for the crime of slavery and murder of the human spirit," Clark said in a prepared statement, but noted that if the suspects could not be apprehended trials in abstentia could take place.
Clark continued to say, "We are in the process of collecting evidence for the trial, and will be pursuing the maximum sentence for this crime provided for in Bluth Corporation law of seventeen years hard torture followed by execution."
Official Communique
To: EC, TGOW, and Ralkovia
Subject: Are you insane?!?!
The Commonwealth of Zoingo would like to inform the fools running East Congaree, The Grand World Order, and Ralkovia that they are about to violate international law in a Global Scale. While Brystolville might have commited a breach of civil and political rights, that gives you no right to just walk in and declare what they can and cannot do, which violates a nations own soverignty. You don't see anyone coming into your nation and running your country now are you?
Also, the blockade while threatning, is again out of its bounds, and should not be occuring for this little petty incident. Blockading us from their shores simply for banning a party that has had little to almost no support in this nation, is absolutly rediculous. You can send our merchant fleets back, fine; but, if we find that a single one of our merchant ships has been attacked, our Royal Navy will be sent out to crush your toy boats.
But for the sake of Diplomacy, for your sake, back down now, or face the consequences of an outcry in the international community.
The Grand World Order
09-12-2008, 06:02
To: Zoingo
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
Your threats against us have caused one of our clerk's babies to cry. Shame on you, Zoingo, shame shame shame!
We won't attack your ships unless they threaten us. That includes if they get too close to our ships. So we suggest you warn your merchants to steer clear of our ships, or else we'll happily sink them and arrest the crew. Of course, though, we will send them back when they're not threatening us.
Shazbotdom
09-12-2008, 06:12
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Joint Message from the Shazbotdom Empire
The Joint Chiefs of Staff, Supreme Emperor and the Imperial Parliament
After watching the situation within the Nation of Brystolville with great interest. With this, the various members of the Shazbotdom Empire are set to give the following statements to the Leadership of the Nation of Brystolville.
Supreme Emperor
The Situation within the Nation of Brystolville is a little disturbing, in my oppinion. The banning of Various Political Parties boarders more on the Facist side of the political spectrum. For a nation that claims to be Socialist in nature, the banning of Political Parties seems more of a Neo Nazi or Neo Conservative variant of the Political Spectrum.
With that being said though, the Shazbotdom Empire will not, at this time, become involved in the situation. We will be watching and listening from a distance with open eyes and open ears.
Joint Chiefs of Staff
The Joint Chiefs Of Staff is appauled by the decision of the Nation of Brystolville in banning political parties. But we do second the voice of the Supreme Emperor in the decision to stand back and watch and listen at a distance.
Imperial Parliament
The Commitee on Foreign Policy officially condemns the acts of the Government of Brystolville. We are forming a task force to look into the actions and give a full report to the Committee on Foreign Policy, the Imperial Parliament and the Supreme Emperor and his Chiefs of Staff. We would also accept any Political Refugees into the Shazbotdom Colony of Shazbotdom Miroxia under the watchful eye of the Shazbotdom Marine Corps. We reluctantly await a reply from the Leadership of Brystolville.
To: Zoingo
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
Your threats against us have caused one of our clerk's babies to cry. Shame on you, Zoingo, shame shame shame!
We won't attack your ships unless they threaten us. That includes if they get too close to our ships. So we suggest you warn your merchants to steer clear of our ships, or else we'll happily sink them and arrest the crew. Of course, though, we will send them back when they're not threatening us.
Official Communique
To: TGWO
Subject: Shure
As for your clerk's baby, shame for letting them near an official telegram, shame shame shame on you! We are not responsible for any crying made in part by our telegrams, that includes diplomats and foreign leader that cannot think of a better comeback than to just say something as naive as that.
But better to the point, this nation is halfway around the world from us and you just expect that we will tell our merchant fleets and companies "Oh, by the way, this one nation you can't go to because an attempted blockade is on them!". And you just think that we can wave a magic wand and it will be done by the pixie faries? Well to bad for you, this is reality! By the way, what happens to the ships already in Brystolville waters? As we cant let them out because of your blockade, there in essence, stuck. So untill your blockade is lifted, I guess we will just have to airlift our supplies and goods into Brystolville.
Beth Gellert
09-12-2008, 08:35
Portmeirion, Raipur, Indian Soviet Commonwealth of Beddgelert
The Final Soviet has declared that all nations that are in this matter of like mind to the Soviet power -that is, planning to defy the Fascist bloackade of Brystolville- are welcome to enter into co-operation with Indian forces in bringing the matter speedily to a favourable resolution. A united front, says Adiatorix, would be preferable to piecemeal action.
The Soviet Commune has even offered to include the Eurasian Socialist Republic in the aid package being assembled for Brystolville, which would enable the creation of a small rapid-reaction force of higher quality than the bulk of Eurasia's likely under-funded military.
"After all" said a typically over-stated Adiatorix, "Beddgelens wipe their backsides with papers worth more than the sum of the Grand World Order's assets."
At sea
A substantial Indo-Soviet fleet was assembling on the high seas. In fact, the largest ever assembled by the Commonwealth for anything other than review or training purposes though it still represented substantially less than one third of the Commonwealth Oceanic Guard's high seas fleet capability, and none of the nation's Liopleurodon ferox Class ballistic-missile submarines were attached.
Watchers of Soviet politics might suspect some domestic ambition on the part of Adiatorix, who was clearly the driving force in the mission.
Task Force Censure
4x Utopia Class battleships (CS Anarchism as flag, In Victory, Liberty!)
40x Defiance Class fleet aircraft carriers
40x Commonwealth Class trimaran fleet aircraft carriers
48x Nibiru Class light carrier/assault ships
80x Hyaenidae Class expeditionary transport LPDs
384x Anunkai Class guided-missile fleet submarines
128x Ortiagon stealth attack submarines
80x Chainmail Class multi-role guided-missile cruisers
240x Bodkin Class general warfare frigates
320x Gauntlet Class air defence destroyers
100x Gujarat Class multi-role corvettes
80x Dwrgi Class WIG vehicles
16x Red Dragon Class WIG vehicles
Numerous- Rapier Class MCMs, Brompton Class oilers, Restoration Class submarine tenders, Benefactor Class ammunition ships, Verix Class combat stores ships, Palaemon Class heavy support ships, Ysbyty Class hospital ships
Approaching Brystolville
Ahead of the lumbering fleet, which was still assembling even as it was underway, a single Dwrgi-T Wing-In-Groundeffect vehicle, broadcasting Indo-Soviet IFF codes and wearing the red fisted star of the Commonwealth, began to gather speed. Gradually, the more than hundred and fifty tonne craft began to rise high and higher in the water until eventually, kicking up a mist that could be seen for miles and jolting the crew about terribly as it slapped across wavetops on the open ocean, it was airborne and cruising at over two hundred knots just metres from the surface.
The Dwrgi (or otter) began to head for the shores of Brystolville just hours after Raipur sent a message telling the government to expect a friendship visit.
[OOC: Guys, give a chance for Brystonville to respond. Its not like everyone on NS is online every hour. :$]
Whiskeasy
09-12-2008, 11:51
Diplomatic Communique
To EC, TGOW, Ralkovia and others with whom it may concern.
From PM Jack Daniels, The Commonwealth of Whiskeasy.
We stand by nations such as Zoingo and Leistung who stand up for the rights of the people. This barbarism and imperialistic warmongering is flat out disgusting. We look down upon all governments that must smother the people to remain strong. However when you have to start oppressing other nations it is time to be stopped. Unless this pitiful excuse of a blockade is withdrawn we will deploy necessary counter measures. Most noticeably a fleet to help and aid other nations dedicated to stopping this blatant injustice.
Jack Daniels
East Congaree
09-12-2008, 12:50
Encrypted Message
To: Ralkovian, GWO Offices of Foreign Affairs
From: East Congaree Executive Office
We're pulling our ships back to port, because confronting pagan communist forces outside of Brystolville will only plunge us into a war that will have a devastating effect on us, our economies, and militaries. I feel that if your forces are not pulled back, you will suffer deeply.
East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and President- Reginald Deere
400 Miles off the Coast of Norfolk, East Congaree
The naval force was told to head back to Norfolk, and that fighting would take place another day.
Ralkovia
09-12-2008, 13:21
To: All
From: Ralkovia
We shall not give, our fleets are attacking now.
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2 million phantom ships began their attack on Brystonville destroying everything they could as millions more phantom soldiers began their attack. On the HRMS Not-here Admiral Imaginary watched his ultimate fleet destroy Brystonville with new weapons called invi-bombs. The thousands of F-88890 began their inland attack as Flight Commander Invisible Guy began his attack.
(Never had forces in the region, so sending me messages to stop were actually quite stupid. By the way this is not real attack for you who cannot comprehend simple things.)
Niraamaya
09-12-2008, 13:27
OOC: Lulz. Well, I send a fleet of Phantom uber-weps to you and make you nothing!!!!!11111oneoneoneoneone
The Grand World Order
10-12-2008, 01:10
((OOC: I think you failed to see the point, Herr/Frau Niraamaya. Clearly Ralkovia was being sarcastic.
BG, considering you have the military acting as a police in your country (As you have no Law and Order funds) I heavily doubt you'd be able to make a massive deployment, considering your budget is TINY for your size. In other words, you need your troops at home, considering you have a small/large and crappy military to control so many people. Furthermore, there's no way in hell you can afford to fully equip the militaries of TWO (Assuming I read correctly) other nations. And don't try to pull the "I have my Navy as my primary branch" nonsense, because you can't enforce the law with a ship.))
To: Beth Gelert
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
And what will you do to control your populace? If you're using your military as police, we shun to think of what would happen in your own homeland should you ever deploy any REAL force. Why, there wouldn't be anything to prevent them from having a "Glorious Peasant Revolt" against your government.
To: Zoingo
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
No, the man who sent that response honestly did go home and tell his family that "Some dumbass decided to try and stop our blockade" before his recently born son began to cry. As for your ships in Brystolville, they will be permitted to leave the country, so long as they announce that they're going through the blockade.
Space
GWO satellites were hurtling around the planet, scanning the oceans for anything headed for Brystolville, other than the Fascist fleets. Weapons satellites were prepared to open fire on the hostile fleets (Should the fleets open fire) at a moment's notice. The Order would not let the pathetic Leftists beat them. Several more GWO fleets were put on call, though they weren't going to be deployed unless the Naval Warfare Department felt a bad omen.
Leistung
10-12-2008, 01:45
OOC: You never responded to my humanitarian post, GWO. And btw, ship type actually does matter--it's common sense for Christ's sake. Do your destroyers have guns? If so, how many? What caliber? What sort of missiles are you firing? What sort of radar do you have? These questions must be answered, or you could just adjust your ship's stats based on the situation.
The Grand World Order
10-12-2008, 01:56
((OOC: I never saw it, linkage pl0x.
As for the ship thing...
It's a generic NS ship, that should be enough. I honestly don't know anything regarding ships; land warfare, infantry especially, is my forte. I wouldn't expect you to tell me exactly how many grains of gunpowder are in each of your bullets (Even one grain officially matters) or what brand of boots your soldiers wear.
Let me simply explain this one more time; my ships have almost no actual cannons, they mainly have VLS tubes. They launch primarily Ralkovian Cruzscuds and RL missiles/torpedoes made by Russia, the US, Norway, and Germany. As for CIWS systems, those vary wildly from ship to ship, even in the same class, as some simply carry more of the lighter CIWS guns than others. For RADAR, I'm using generic NS RADAR that can spot B-2s, considering everyone has them.))
Niraamaya
10-12-2008, 02:03
((OOC: I think you failed to see the point, Herr/Frau Niraamaya. Clearly Ralkovia was being sarcastic.
OOC: So was I. Or are you? Now my head is hurting.
Leistung
10-12-2008, 02:08
OOC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14287115&postcount=29
What I'm getting at is that if I don't know what your ships are armed with/defending with, I can't tell if you're altering your stats to meet my attacks or to randomly place ASROCs on a destroyer just because I've RPed a submarine in the area.
General ship-based radar, by the way, unless it's low-frequency, which is essentially useless (it's huge, an easy target, and totally inaccurate), cannot detect stealth airplanes easily. Radar varies immensely, with some high-frequency radars detecting targets penetrating foliage and ground, and others simply detecting surface/air threats at moderate range.
We should continue this conversation elsewhere, though.
To: Zoingo
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
No, the man who sent that response honestly did go home and tell his family that "Some dumbass decided to try and stop our blockade" before his recently born son began to cry. As for your ships in Brystolville, they will be permitted to leave the country, so long as they announce that they're going through the blockade.
Official Quick Reply Communique
Really? Well then we are anything but liable for such crying from the child, but enclosed is a complementary rattle for the newborn baby. As for the clerk in the earlier telegram, you should have a better review when selecting such clerks, or simply fire the man for almost ruining diplomatic relations between another country.
And we thank you for the heads up about our ships, they will most definitely announce they are passing through the blockade....probably because of the massive ammount of arms that are pointing at them.
ooc: I am getting a laugh out of this conversation. :p
Beth Gellert
10-12-2008, 03:05
Portmeirion, Raipur
"And what will you do to control your populace? If you're using your military as police, we shun to think of what would happen in your own homeland should you ever deploy any REAL force. Why, there wouldn't be anything to prevent them from having a 'Glorious Peasant Revolt' against your government."
Comrade Consul-Secretary K.S. Sarai had read the copy several times, and asked no less than four of his comrades to help him decipher it. Eventually, the prevailing Fascists really are mentally inferior solution was accepted in stead of Sarai's earlier assumption that the communiqué must have been coded. "We shun to think" he read again. I'd noticed.
Sarai slapped the copy down on the Propaganda Gifts pile and went on with his work. It'd turn up on Reactionaries Say the Darndest Things! at some point.
Miles above, the orbital defences of the People's Cosmonautical Co-operative were directed to respond to Fascist movements, watching them closely and prepared for possible action.
At sea, the fleet continued on, still drawing itself together, and the lone Dwrgi WIG far ahead thundered into Brystolville's territorial waters -or airspace, dpending on your point of view- having thus far faced no challenge.
(OOC: That's all I had to respond to, IC. OOC I can tell you that the Commonwealth's defence activity in the last 12 IC months was officially valued at a shade under US$30.6 trillion equivalent in value. Analysts tend to suspect that the Soviet Commune under-states the dollar value of most of its activities.
The Commonwealth Guard Expert Corps, which is deploying part of its Oceanic wing here, has no involvement in policing. The Auxiliary Corps might be considered in part a Gendarmerie, if you wish.
Officially, there is no military, as this was disbanded in 1989 after the February Revolution that over-threw the Communist Party of India (Amalgamated Maoist-Leninist). Instead there is the citizen militia that is the Commonwealth Guard.
There aren't any peasants, per se, either.
All told, the entire Commonwealth Guard is more than twice the size of your nation, all of this being explained in the defence factbook linked in my signature.
The main point here is that I don't use calculators. Calculators are Godmods. I can explain this in a long-winded fashion if you like, of course.)
The Grand World Order
10-12-2008, 04:19
((OOC: Four billion troops? That's something like a third of your nation. I'm not sure if AMF could even hold a military that large... if so, you'd have something like one Mosin Nagant for every thousand soldiers. Also, about the gendarme thing, that generally is the same in my country, just with my Defense/LO funds combined (For the most part).
If you're going to increase your budget by trillions, I guess I can do so as well [/sarcasm]. Calculators are simply there to help us get a clue on what our budgets should be. For example, if I claimed I had 100 trillion in defense funds, that would be wankery.))
Beth Gellert
10-12-2008, 04:34
((OOC: Four billion troops? That's something like a third of your nation. I'm not sure if AMF could even hold a military that large... if so, you'd have something like one Mosin Nagant for every thousand soldiers. Also, about the gendarme thing, that generally is the same in my country, just with my Defense/LO funds combined (For the most part).
If you're going to increase your budget by trillions, I guess I can do so as well [/sarcasm]. Calculators are simply there to help us get a clue on what our budgets should be. For example, if I claimed I had 100 trillion in defense funds, that would be wankery.))
(OOC: Indeed. Where as my 30.6 trillion dollars is some 5% of my PPP GDP. The calculators, in my experience thus far, universally fail. One way to lay it out:
1) BG has had an economy inside the top 1% fastest growing in the multiverse since before nations such as yours have existed. 2) Calculators tend to mark-down BG's per-capita income next to those of capitalist and other nations. 3) BG's economy has been and is growing faster than theirs. 4) No matter how long we wait, the calculators never recognise BG's catching up, let alone over-taking. 5) Inarguably, these calculators are wrong.
Aside from that, I'm yet to find a calculator that incorporates even a basic understanding of a left-wing economy, and certainly not an Igovian one.
Calculators, being player-made, are the equivalent of me telling you that 47% of your population has contracted smallpox.
Thus, NS calculators are for n00bs.
On the Commonwealth Guard, as I said before, see my sig-linked Defence Factbook, then get back to me. The Nagant thing doesn't really fly.)
Leistung
10-12-2008, 04:37
OOC: GWO, you still haven't responded to my humanitarian post...link is at the top of the page.
ooc: First you're the only person on NS I have ever seen call a calculator a god mode, and 5% of your population would be 611 900 000 after 5% you're economy and things at home are going to go down hill fast.
Further my counter is like a quarter your size and my exchange rate for the USD is higher and I spend like 2-3 trillion less than you on defense but with the exchange rate my money spent is worth more.
Further you like so many people on NS forget the number of actual front line troops is considerably lower than your actual total military manpower your going to have more SUPPORT soldiers than you do front line fighters.
Plus supporting 4 billion troops at one time would literally bankrupt you overnight, and cause your people to starve and go without virtually all materials that are used in wartime especially since your having to keep that many people on ships.
The whole time all those troops are on ships all they are going to do is consume supplies by the time you land your army will have a few million rifles some ammo but no fuel, no food, no water and your soldiers wont be getting paid anymore either.
Plus the amount of ships you would need to carry all the supplies and then the amount you would need to sustain your forces
Basically you're sending 4 billion men to starve to death, die of disease, defect , or simply mass surrender, you're also going to bankrupt your nation and cause massive unrest at home (if I dont have tires on my car or food to eat anymore because the government took it away for some war I'm going to be pretty pissed at the Government)
Simply put a 4 billion man army especially one that has to put to sea is entirely impossible calculators or not.
Beth Gellert
10-12-2008, 04:50
(OOC: Oh, christicles, the melody goes on.
ooc: First you're the only person on NS I have ever seen call a calculator a god mode, and 5% of your population would be 611 900 000 after 5% you're economy and things at home are going to go down hill fast.
None of that actually makes sense. '5% my are economy' and what? In reference to what?
Further my counter is like a quarter your size and my exchange rate for the USD is higher and I spend like 2-3 trillion less than you on defense but with the exchange rate my money spent is worth more.
You're using corrupt nonsense data from a calculator to prove that data from a calculator is not corrupt nonsense? Okay, well, have fun.
Further you like so many people on NS forget the number of actual front line troops is considerably lower than your actual total military manpower your going to have more SUPPORT soldiers than you do front line fighters.
Plus supporting 4 billion troops at one time would literally bankrupt you overnight, and cause your people to starve and go without virtually all materials that are used in wartime especially since your having to keep that many people on ships.
The whole time all those troops are on ships all they are going to do is consume supplies by the time you land your army will have a few million rifles some ammo but no fuel, no food, no water and your soldiers wont be getting paid anymore either.
Plus the amount of ships you would need to carry all the supplies and then the amount you would need to sustain your forces
Basically you're sending 4 billion men to starve to death, die of disease, defect , or simply mass surrender, you're also going to bankrupt your nation and cause massive unrest at home (if I dont have tires on my car or food to eat anymore because the government took it away for some war I'm going to be pretty pissed at the Government)
Simply put a 4 billion man army especially one that has to put to sea is entirely impossible calculators or not.
Further, do as I've twice told TGWO and follow the defence link in my sig, then get back to me if you feel inclined. Otherwise, you're just getting idiot on the carpet. An awful lot of it.)
Rotovia-
10-12-2008, 04:59
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Ministry for Foreign Affairs
Official Government Communique
To: Bluth Corporation, East Congaree, The Grand World Order, Ralkovia, and Zoingo
CC: Beth Gellert, international media
Security: None
Encryption: None applied
Subject: Brystolville blockade
Whilst Rotovia was among many nations who chose to condemn the suppression of a political group within Brystolville, we did acknowledge the repugnance of their ideology, and are distressed to see nations lining up to violate national sovereignty over an internal political matter. Those nation with legitimate concerns would do well to seek diplomatic options to encourage the Brystolville legal system to attend to this matter.
To this end, having consulted with His Imperial Eminency in Council (the Privy Council and Cabinet), and with the Minister for National Defence, I have concluded that Rotovia is willing to maintain the sovereign jurisdiction of Brystolville by force, if necessary.
Yours faithfully,
Lady (L'Ord) Sarah Hours
(PC) (SC) (LL.B, MA, PHD)
Minister for Foreign Affairs
The Grand World Order
10-12-2008, 05:07
To: Leistung
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
The good ol' Berlin Airlift idea, right? Except for the fact that such aircraft would be violating our Naval Airspace.
We'll simply request the manifest of each ship going by and ask to do a quick search; if they don't agree, we simply send them back. As for the people not being able to afford things, well, that's the whole point of a blockade, isn't it? If their leaders are wise, they'll permit Fascism to have a chance in their country.
(OOC: Oh, christicles, the melody goes on.
None of that actually makes sense. '5% my are economy' and what? In reference to what?
You're using corrupt nonsense data from a calculator to prove that data from a calculator is not corrupt nonsense? Okay, well, have fun.
Further, do as I've twice told TGWO and follow the defence link in my sig, then get back to me if you feel inclined. Otherwise, you're just getting idiot on the carpet. An awful lot of it.)
Getting idiot on the carpet?
Ignoring the economic factors entirely
I don't need to look at your defense link to tell you there is no possible way for you to support 4 billion men especially not at sea.
A brigade size element of a few thousand people consumes thousands of pounds of food, water and other supplies daily IN GARRISON thats not even counting the extra supplies you need when you deploy, PLUS you would have to feed the thousands of ship crews as well so you're looking at 4 billion plus total here.
You'd run out of supplies in a matter of days no getting around it. (I say days very lightly)
Like I said before if you somehow got enough ships to even transport 4 billion men they would run out of supplies.
(BTW looking at your own defense link you don't have nearly enough ships to carry that many men let alone all the supplies you would need to sustain them. You have more subs than any other class of vessel and Subs can't carry any large amount of supplies other than enough to sustain their own crews for like 6 months.)
Are your men not going to eat or drink for days then be expected to assault the enemy?
I think not, unless you want a bunch of tired weakened men trying to fight a fresh enemy. Your losses would be massive and morale would plummet if not break entirely as even if your army succeeded in landing if the enemy adopted a scorched earth policy they would still have no food.
You have 12 billion people yes but that doesn't entitle you to ignore simple basic facts of human survival.
You fail on a scale of Epic proportions when it comes to matters relating to realistic military logistics.
Beth Gellert
10-12-2008, 05:16
Getting idiot on the carpet?
Ignoring the economic factors entirely
I don't need to look at your defense link to tell you there is no possible way for you to support 4 billion men at sea.
(OOC: You will, however, need to tell me where I even hinted that I might at any point in history have vaguely considered possibly having four billion men at sea, however. Bet you a bajillion pennies you can't do it.
Gataway makes himself look very silly indeed, and is pretty durn confident in doing so.
'kay!)
(OOC: You will, however, need to tell me where I even hinted that I might at any point in history have vaguely considered possibly having four billion men at sea, however. Bet you a bajillion pennies you can't do it.
'kay!)
They don't have to be at sea, supporting 4 billion soldiers at an active wartime status even on land would be impossible. Either your citizenry would starve or your soldiers would. Simple as that.
I was under the impression from an MSN convo that you were trying to transport 4 billion troops somewhere.
Economically activating 4 billion soldiers like that would destroy you. I don't care what bullshit numbers you've fabricated for yourself, that also goes back to your supply thing the amount of materials you would need to sustain all those troops would take all your resources for export and you would become reliant on imports. Your economy crumbles causing unrest and again
your citizens would suffer without basic resources and civil unrest would grow further.
The deployments of ships you've already made would even make an economic impact.
Beth Gellert
10-12-2008, 05:36
They don't have to be at sea, supporting 4 billion soldiers at an active wartime status even on land would be impossible. Either your citizenry would starve or your soldiers would. Simple as that.
I was under the impression from an MSN convo that you were trying to transport 4 billion troops somewhere.
Economically activating 4 billion soldiers like that would destroy you. I don't care what bullshit numbers you've fabricated for yourself, that also goes back to your supply thing the amount of materials you would need to sustain all those troops would take all your resources for export and you would become reliant on imports. Your economy crumbles causing unrest and again
your citizens would suffer without basic resources and civil unrest would grow further.
The deployments of ships you've already made would even make an economic impact.
Okay, screw the small font, STOP MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF, GATAWAY! Pay attention to my fourth or fifth request for you to read the link provided!
Jesus dinoriding Christ!
From the Office of the President of the Republic and Lord Chancellor of the Commonwealths
TO: All Parties involved in the Brystolville Crisis
While we disagree with the banning of political parties in a nation. We must understand that the internal affairs of a nation are not the matters of foreign governments unless it has dire effects for the world. The members of the said are not being murdered, so we see no reason for the current actions by the nations like GWO and Ralkovia. A condemnation would be enough, not the almost war stance made by the said nations and their allies. We ask the world please not further increase the tense situation in Brystolville.
Signed,
Trisha Handstand-Lichtenburg
President of the Republic and Lord Chancellor of the Commonwealths
Eurasian Socialist Rep
10-12-2008, 07:38
ooc: Gataway, Berth, take it to General. Honestly. Also, Gataway, don't be obtuse, many think the calculators are worthless, myself included. :/ In fact, go to http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom and ask them about economic calculators.
IC:
"Good morning, Comrade Alexandra." I glanced up from my work to see the warm eyes of Anton Pavlovich beaming down at me. "I trust you are well today?"
"Quite, Anton. Productivity is up in all sectors, the final reconstruction projects are well on their way, and we have reached our prewar standard of living." I eyed him for a moment, before glancing back down to my work. "But that's not why you're here. What's on your mind?"
"Well..." he began, dragging a chair over to my desk, "I've been thinking about this Beddgelert place. They seem to really be up to scratch, better than the fools we've dealt with elsewhere in the global 'leftist' movement." He looked thoughtful, a truly dangerous sign. He paused to scratch his ear before continuing. "The senate has been engaging in a number of discussions, both on and off the floor, about whether we should dispatch our force with theirs. Should it be proposed, I have little doubt it would pass by a healthy margin. But before I propose it formally, I'd like your advice. What do you think?"
He reclined in the chair, a shaft of light reflecting off his balding head. In this light, I couldn't help but think that Anton was old. Far older than the rest of us that day on Corrante, when the final shots of the war were fired. Yet somehow he'd escaped that quiet desperation that had afflicted many of us of late. "I don't know, friend, but I know that blockades don't break themselves. Motion to send our fleet with theirs."
"Certainly Aleksandra. Oh, but before I go, how is your father doing? I heard from your cousin that he was ill, and my wife is worried."
"He's fine, just a cold." I mustered a smile, father had been quite sickly these past few years. "He'll be fine. I'm going to visit him tomorrow."
"Give him my best wishes when you see him, and have a good day, Comrade." I turned back to the rest of my work as he slid out of the office, another long day about to get even longer. He stayed positive in the face of incredible wars and atrocities. I wish I were so...
Salutations Beddgelert Comrades!
The Party Congress has agreed that this is the best course of action, and will be dispatching a naval formation to link up with yours. The initial force of submarines, tenders, and escort ships will be quickly supported with cruisers, battlecruisers, and aircraft-carrying cruisers. All in all, I expect upwards of fifty combat vessels to sortie for this endeavor, as well as their attached logistics personnel. If you believe additional assets will be required to crush the Capitalists, I can arrange for significantly more. However, I have seen no credible threat posted.
The will of the proletariat shall prevail!
-Aleksandra Gorbachova, Premier of the Federation of Eurasian Socialist Republics
ooc2: Fuck orbats, will figure out exactly what I'm sending later. For now, SLEEP
Bluth Corporation
10-12-2008, 17:55
Punted Ball Communique to Rotovia-
Peyton Manning #18, Starting Quarterback
June 2, Year 72 01:56
The Huge Mistake of Bluth Corporation does not recognize the collectivist concept of "national sovereignty." Sovereignty rests solely with the individual, and so no body is entitled to claim non-existent "national sovereignty" as a shield for violations of very real individual sovereignty. The laws of Bluth Corporation are the laws of objective moral principle and thus apply everywhere, and so the government of Bluth Corporation is entitled to enforce its laws anywhere it wishes.
Leistung
10-12-2008, 22:05
To: Leistung
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
The good ol' Berlin Airlift idea, right? Except for the fact that such aircraft would be violating our Naval Airspace.
We'll simply request the manifest of each ship going by and ask to do a quick search; if they don't agree, we simply send them back. As for the people not being able to afford things, well, that's the whole point of a blockade, isn't it? If their leaders are wise, they'll permit Fascism to have a chance in their country.
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To: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
From: Office of Frau Zimmerman
Subj: Humanitarian crisis in Brystolville
Your "naval airspace" is not something that can be "violated," as we have every right to fly as many transport aircraft over international waters as we please, especially considering their non-combat nature.
The fact that you are moving to blockade an entire nation over a matter of internal importance troubles us very much, and calls into question whether or not you do in fact plan on allowing food shipments into Brystolville. If you expect us to believe your claims, we require first and foremost a list of goods which will not be allowed to pass through the blockade.
Cordially,
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Emilie Zimmerman
Head of the Holy Cross Humanitarian Agency
Rotovia-
10-12-2008, 23:26
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Ministry for Foreign Affairs
Official Government Communique
To: Bluth Corporation
CC: None
Security: Diplomacy Level One
Encryption: None applied
Subject: Re: Brystolville blockade
We find no evidence that the moral conduct and judgement of your nation is so universally perfect as to justify military incursion into every nation which does not meet your subjective standards.
Sovereignty is the right of every state, and the most basic protection of every citizen. If the Bluth Corporation takes it so flippantly, than our nation might need extend its own version of moral justice within your territory.
[signed]
Lady (L'Ord) Sarah Hours
(PC) (SC) (LL.B, MA, PHD)
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Bluth Corporation
11-12-2008, 00:10
Punted Ball Communique to Rotovia-
Peyton Manning #18, Starting Quarterback
June 5, Year 72 03:20
We wish to remind the sincere government of Rotovia- that our moral standards are not subjective as they incorrectly believe, but objectively correct and provable from the first principles of the Universe. Furthermore, we challenge the government of Rotovia- to find a single act violating this objectively correct moral code in the history of the actions of the government of the Huge Mistake of Bluth Corporation.
We also wish to remind the government of Rotovia- that sovereignty rests not with the state but solely with the individual.
The Grand World Order
11-12-2008, 02:52
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To: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
From: Office of Frau Zimmerman
Subj: Humanitarian crisis in Brystolville
Your "naval airspace" is not something that can be "violated," as we have every right to fly as many transport aircraft over international waters as we please, especially considering their non-combat nature.
The fact that you are moving to blockade an entire nation over a matter of internal importance troubles us very much, and calls into question whether or not you do in fact plan on allowing food shipments into Brystolville. If you expect us to believe your claims, we require first and foremost a list of goods which will not be allowed to pass through the blockade.
Cordially,
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Emilie Zimmerman
Head of the Black Cross Humanitarian Agency
To: Leistung
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
The proposed list currently includes the following items:
-Weapons of any kind
-Ammunition
-Metals other than Iron (Precious and common, excluding when it is included in vital products)
-Cleaning Products
-Vehicles
-Radioactive Materials
-Hazardous Chemicals
-Bio-Hazardous Materials
-Military Equipment
-Timber
-Plastics (Excluding use in vital products)
-LEGO Bricks (Very heavy emphasis on these)
-Rubber
-Gravel
-Flammable Chemicals (Excluding petroleum materials and those deemed absolutely necessary for the nation)
-Glass
-Clothing/Accessories
-Hunting Equipment
-Medium to Advanced Electronics
-Furniture
-Leather
-Cosmetic Products
-Magazines (As in those that you read)
-Precious Stones (I.e. diamonds, rubies, sapphires)
-Deodorant
-Anti-Lice Products
-Illegal Shipments (I.e. drugs, illegal immigrants)
-Cruise Ships (Turning said passengers away as well)
-Ceramics used in tank armor
-Military Electronics
-Communications Devices (Including televisions)
Ralkovia
11-12-2008, 22:56
( GWO you forgot toilet paper....For they shall not be able to wipe anymore. Their people will rebel as their asses become un clean MUHAHAHAHA)
Official Telrosian Communique
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There is no need for a war to break out over such a small event. Yes, the banning of such a party is sad and a grave breach of rights, but we mustn't waste precious human life over such a thing. War must be the last resort, not the first. I am calling for a diplomatic meeting of all sides in this tension-filled situation, including the nation of Brystolville, in the neutral borders of the Imperium of Telros. We will not take either side of this conflict and would like to work out some kind of agreement before we go down the slippery slope to a war that is best not fought.
Please, do not waste the lives for a cause not worth the silver lining in a dress.
Emperor Alexis Darsin the Fourth
Imperium of Telros
Beth Gellert
11-12-2008, 23:07
( GWO you forgot toilet paper....For they shall not be able to wipe anymore. Their people will rebel as their asses become un clean MUHAHAHAHA)
(OOC: I feel inclined to point out at this juncture that most of my population don't use toilet paper, anyway. We are the Indian Soviet Commonwealth, after all. Enter a Beddgelen toilet and you'll find soap and running water, and a hole. [nod]
Anyone get the feeling that the OP has been scared off? I don't want to start a war on the edge of his nation by running the blockade when he's not looking.)
The Grand World Order
11-12-2008, 23:56
To: Telros
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
We do not intend to declare war on Brystolville, and never did. We simply are pressuring them into giving Fascism a chance in their country. We are not trying to cause losses of life in Brystolville, just losses of money and luxuries.
To: GWO Office of Foreign Affairs
From: Imperial Foreign Affairs Minister Dan Peterson.
We understand. However, the blockade and other nation's reactions to it and the announcement have made many rather...rash in their promised actions. We simply put forth an option that will not lead to war, for those whom seem deadset on pushing that answer to this question. We thank the GWO for its restraint in this matter. We do not agree with your method on dealing with the situation but it is better than war.
Shazbotdom
12-12-2008, 00:25
To: Telros
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
We do not intend to declare war on Brystolville, and never did. We simply are pressuring them into giving Fascism a chance in their country. We are not trying to cause losses of life in Brystolville, just losses of money and luxuries.
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FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
MR. KENNITH G. TERRANCE
_____May we remind the ilustrious Foreign Affairs Office within the Grand World Order that no matter what your intentions are, the issues that lie within the Nation of Brystolville are their own and of no concern to the International Community. If they wish to ban a political ideology within their national boarders, they are bound by their own laws to do so as the Intelligence gathered by the Shazbotdom Empire shows that Brystolville is not a member of the World Assembly and therefore does not need to subjigate themselves to the laws of said organization.
_____When a nation, such as yours and many others, goes out of it's way to try and force another nation to conform with what that 'alliance' sees as the International Norm, that alliance is opening themselves up to scruteny by the International Community. You have been condemned by multiple nations, including the Indian Soviet Commonwealth and many others. Are you really wanting to risk all out war against nations much larger than yours over trying to force your ideological ways upon a nation that is much smaller than yours? By the looks of what is going on, that is a definite possibility.
Leistung
12-12-2008, 01:04
To: Leistung
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
The proposed list currently includes the following items:
*snip*
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To: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
From: Office of Frau Zimmerman
Subj: Humanitarian crisis in Brystolville
We have qualms with a number of your banned items:
-Plastics
-Rubber
-Glass
-Anti-lice products
These items are vital for the upkeep of hospitals and medical facilities in Brystolville, and must be allowed to pass through the blockade. On a separate note, we notice that the vast majority of banned items can more likely than not be domestically produced in Brystolville--timber, for example. Are you planning on cutting off the importation of axes so that the people of Brystolville cannot simply cut down their own trees?
Cordially,
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Emilie Zimmerman
Head of the Holy Cross Humanitarian Agency
Anagonia
12-12-2008, 01:08
Official Message from the Office of the Chief of Foreign Affairs and Activities
Stupidity Amount Rising - Caution
TO: All nations therein involved, either officially or unofficially
FROM: Your friendly neighborhood Chief of Foreign Affairs and Activities, Caster Oblivion
With due respect I remark now on the amount of insanity that I have detected going on here. Anagonia is a huge democracy with deep respect to the Peoples Right of Representation, and even here we have no right to interfere in the political system of other countries. Nor do we have the time or patience to reform a nation just for being a nation. We, rather, choose not to interfere and let the universe take its natural course for the Betterment of the People of Brystolville. That being said, we also took note that this nation was rather young, and still going through its natural evolution.
On that topic, why is it that every time a new nation is birthed we bigger, badder nations come along to stomp all over them thinking were gods? Seriously, Leaders of the Free and Oppressed World, get a grip on yourselves. The People and Government of Brystolville have EVERY right to Govern themselves, and I believe they can do it WITHOUT the assistance of the International Community. Simply put, if the government decided it was bad for the people, then the people should be the ones to rise against said government and fix the situation themselves. Only when the People get shot at by said government should we Freedom and Tyranny loving nations get involved, to either enslave or keep free the People of Brystolville. And you know what? I don't detect an inkling of People crying out for the International Communities assistance!
To those leaders out there who want to oppress Brystolville, by God find someone else your size. To those leaders seeking to change the political system of a DEMOCRATIC country, by Goddess become a dictatorship and fix yourself! Seriously, Comrade Brethren of the International World, don't we have something better to do than shove around our Military Might on some helpless victim of political evolution? What would you even prove, besides showing your intentions at being just a rude, crude, and very unsociable nation? What is the damn point in all this bickering and warfare here?!
We, the United Republic of Anagonia, formally apologize to those Leaders and Representatives of Leaders whom have commented on this military engagement. We do not speak unkindly to you, rather unkindly to our Brethren whom know not when to keep their pants on. With respect, I represent my Nation with these last words:
"Seriously, People, can't we agree just to disagree for once in our lives? If you don't like the guy, just nuke them, and be done with it already!"
Thank you kindly,
Caster Oblivion
Chief of Foreign Affairs and Activities
United Republic of Anagonia
The Grand World Order
12-12-2008, 01:20
To: The BCHA
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
The items you have problems with can easily be produced within their own borders. We will give detailed reasons why we banned each item you have listed;
Plastics:
Plastics are used in toys, shoes, glasses, ballistic protective vests, and just about every luxury. They also are fairly easy to create; why, even a child could make it with household materials such as milk. In addition, we are not banning petroleum, which is one of the major ingredients of plastic. However, it certainly would limit luxury use of such items.
Rubber:
Rubber can be artificially produced with their own resources fairly easily; things like Isoprene Butylene Butyl and that sort of stuff. Our blockade won't limit their rubber production to the point where they cannot sustain their own hospitals.
Glass:
Glass is very, very simple to make. The biological kingdom of Protista makes it naturally, and all you really have to do is extract the silica and heat it up, and we all know sand has silica in it.
Anti-Lice Products:
Lice are, for the most part, not life-threatening, just very miserable to have. Besides, insecticides and topical creme are not the only cure for head louse infestation.
Stoklomolvi
12-12-2008, 01:30
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Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Stoklomolvi Federation
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi Federation
Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement
We hereby declare that shipments of goods to Brystolville will increase and merchant marine armed with heavy munitions to fend off the fascist pirates. In addition, we hereby declare the Fascist Party of Stoklomolvi, the People's Nationalist Party, the Grand World Order Protectorate Party, the National Socialist Worker's Party, and the Rightist Party of Stoklomolvi will all be banned due to the actions of the Grand World Order. The members of the parties, which amount to some 3 million, will be jailed.
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Leistung
12-12-2008, 01:31
OOC: GWO, you aren't making any sense. You've basically admitted that your blockade is going to be useless because Brystolville can produce all those items themselves...
So either you like throwing tons of money down the toilet (launching a battlefleet is extremely expensive), or you think that by launching a pointless blockade, Brystolville will capitulate. Somehow.
The Grand World Order
12-12-2008, 01:41
((OOC: The blockade essentially rapes his economy. However, I'm not going to be able to stop domestic production of just about anything without actually invading him. Also, his nation is socialist, correct? Wouldn't that mean vital stuff is government controlled? If I block everything but vital products, that means the private market gets blown to hell.
And by now, I'm not expecting Brystolville to respond to this thread again.))
To: Stoklomolvi
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
We're confident there wasn't a Fascist party left after that major debacle of a Civil War that just went through there.
We'd be rounding up all the Communists, Anarchists, and other Leftists right now, but- Oh, that's right. We've already shipped them off to our Solitary Prisons, Re-Education Centers, and Centers for the Mentally Unfit. Of course, we don't have a party system, so there's a few dawdling around.
Shazbotdom
12-12-2008, 01:43
OOC:
Erm.....
GWO. Are you going to answer the post I directed to you previously? It's about 7 posts up.
Stoklomolvi
12-12-2008, 01:47
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Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Stoklomolvi Federation
7656 Hegemony Drive, Administrative Compound, Office Complex 7C, Hallway 52L, Room 89
Vladistov, Stoklomolvi Federation
Encryption Level 0, Null Encryption
To: [OPEN COMMUNIQUÉ]
Subject: General Statement
Let it be known that the Grand World Order launched over 30,000 nuclear missiles during our civil war, and that we never retaliated. We do have several thousand nuclear missiles of at least ten megatons each pointed at your capital, and will not hesitate to fire them should the Grand World Order provoke us any further.
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New Kereptica
12-12-2008, 01:48
OOC: GWO, I'm pretty sure protists don't make glass.
The Grand World Order
12-12-2008, 02:13
((OOC: Certain diatoms do, and I've personally looked at them through a microscope to know so.))
To: Stoklomolvi
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
If we remember correctly, it was 200 or so kiloton-strength nuclear weapons; launched after several nuclear strikes against our own forces by the Communists. We view tactical nuclear weapons as obsolete, as they create much drama politically and leave nasty fallout when compared to massive thermobaric bombs. Let us remind you that we have very effective counter-ICBM systems, as well as our own arsenal of strategic nuclear weapons. Now we have MAD incorporated in here, don't we?
To: Shazbotdom
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
We are aware of the potential dangers regarding this blockade; however, we do believe Brystolville will come to their senses before the blockade is even formed ((OOC: He probably won't respond...)). If not, it shouldn't take too long for them to do so. If that's not the case after a certain period of time, we'll simply leave them to their own demise, as there's few things more destabilizing than a destroyed economy. Of course, any leader with a brain would act within the best interests of their nation, no?
New Kereptica
12-12-2008, 02:19
OOC: Ah yes. Diatoms. I misunderstood what you were saying. Thought you were claiming that all protists make silica. lol.
Beth Gellert
12-12-2008, 02:34
Brystolville
Having still met no challenge, the Soviet Dwrgi-T WIG splashed down at some speed in the shallows approaching a beach identified as close to significant infrastructure, and was soon rolling up on to the sands.
In the minutes to follow, the front of the big vehicle split open and flatbed strucks began to roll out bearing aid and trade goods, from rice to optically-guided man-portable surface-to-air missile systems. From India with love.
Several GSIC agents also alighted and shortly vanished.
Meanwhile the great red fleet steamed on, assembling into several large squadrons as it made progress towards the supposedly blockaded nation.
At home in India, Adiatorix and his hawkish allies were gaining major political capital out of the retreat of one blockading nation and the inaction of the other when faced with Soviet military might. The movement for active participation in The Final Conflict -world revolution with Igovian sponsorship- was dominating Soviet steps across the sub-continent.
"...the time is right, the the season is right, you are right, the conditions are right! We must go free! Now! Now is the time!" Bellowed an impressive Adiatorix, standing over two metres tall, his hair thick with lime to lighten and spike it, moustache bouncing with every spat assertion, and bare chest thumped with force enough to kill an ox.
His opponents, mostly Dravidians and Indo-Aryans, and a few like the elderly Graeme Igo, were far less impressive in their public spectacles.
Official Communique From the Economic Department
To:GWO
Subject: Item Ban List
The Commonwealth has the following problems with one of the banned items, on the list of things that are not allowed to pass through the blockade.
-Precious Stones
We would like to ask, why? Our private companies love to ship such quantites of emeralds and diamonds to foreign countires, including Brystolville. Could such ban be lifted off of that item? It serves a rather simple purposes such as jewlrey or in cutting tools. Also, is Silk on the banned item list? And is stained glass also on such list?
Leistung
12-12-2008, 02:50
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To: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
From: Office of Frau Zimmerman
Subj: Humanitarian crisis in Brystolville
Your reasons seem to indicate that your blockade seeks to undermine the economic stability of Brystolville, a clear act of war.
Should this be the case, as per standard HCHA operating procedures, several flights of transport aircraft will be landing in Brystolville to ensure that the civilian populace is properly equipped, clothed, and fed in this time of hardship.
Cordially,
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Emilie Zimmerman
Head of the Holy Cross Humanitarian Agency
Eurasian Socialist Rep
12-12-2008, 03:45
Hi everyone, I'm RP sanity, in with a little request: let's hold off for the OP.
At present, they haven't posted but what? 4 times in this thread? Last activity on the 7th? Srsly, thread pages spool fast, and if they're really a newbie, it's gonna be freaking intimidating to see page after page after page of posts.
ooc: I fully agree with ESP's (whoa, weird...ESP) idea to lay this off for a bit.
Beth Gellert
12-12-2008, 04:34
(OOC: I wonder, should we have a spin-off thread? Perhaps if TGWO wants to challenge the Soviet fleet running his blockade, anyway.)
New Greston
12-12-2008, 21:45
OOC: Reply to my post please, GWO.
New Greston
12-12-2008, 21:46
[[OOC: Aw, shit! My computer died before I posted, not after like I thought it did. Now that just puts a damper on my day.]]