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Imperial Russian Armed Forces ORBAT (MT, advice/opinions)

Imperskaya Rossiya
06-12-2008, 19:18
Work in progress.

Population:
181,537,000 (Empire Proper)

50,000,000 (Austria-Hungary)

900,000 (East Prussia)

4,500,000 (Persia)

2,139,000 (Kashmir and Jammu)

850,000 (Hokkaido)

Standing vs. Reserves

Emphasis is placed on keeping a small standing army with a huge reserve force. This allowed the Russian Army to modernize quite quickly, as only a modest number of men had to be equipped with modern weapons.

Standing Army
(Empire Proper)
Approx. 1.8 million (%1)

Reserves:
(Empire Proper)
10,892,220 (%6)

Combined Austro-Prussian Army of Europe:
2,036,000 (Incl. Reserves)

Army of South Asia (Persia + India):
265,560 (%4)
3.500 Ex-British Personel

Army of Hokkaido:
17,000 (%2)



Organizational Details:

Standard Army Corps -> 2 Infantry Divisions, 2 Cavalry Divisions, 1 Sapper Battalion
(Approx. 20,100 infantry, 2050 cavalry, 110 artillery personel)

Infantry Divsion -> 1 Brigade Headquarters, 4 Infantry Regiments, 1 Artillery brigade (6 batteries of 8 guns)

Infantry Regiment -> 4 battalions

Infantry Battalion -> 5 companies

Infantry Company -> 5 Platoons

Infantry Platoon -> 4 Squads

Infantry Sqad -> 10 men

Cavalry Division -> 3 Cavalry Regiments (4 squadrons each), 1 Cossack Cavalry Regiment (4 Cossack 'hundreds' each), 2 horse artillery batteries (6 guns each)


(These figures are, of course, idealized. Most formations are undermanned, especially during peacetime)



ORBAT for Imperial Russian Army

Imperial Guard:

Guard Corps,
1st Gds Infantry Division
-1st Brigrade
=Life-Guards Prebranzhenskiy Regiment
=Life-Guards Semonovskiy Regiment
=1st Life-Guards Artillery Brigade

-2nd Brigade
=Life-Guards Izmailovskiy Regiment
=Life-Guards Jäger Regiment

-1st Life Guards Artillery Brigade

2nd Gds Infantry Division
-1st Brigade
=Life-Guards Moscow Regiment
=Life-Guards Grenadier Regiment

-2nd Brigrade
=Life-Guards Pavlovskii Reigment
=Life-Guards Finland Regiment

-2nd Life-Guards Artillery

Guards Rifle Brigade

1st Gds Cavalry
-1st Brigrade
=Her Sovereign Majesty Empress Maria Theodorovna's Chevalier Guards Regiment
=Life-Guards Horse Regiment

-2nd Brigade
=His Majesty's Life-Guards Cuirassier Regiment
=Her Majesty Empress Maria Theodorovna's Life-Guards Cuirassier Regiment

-3rd Brigade
=His Majesty's 1st Ural Sotnia
=2nd Orenburg Sotnia
=3rd Combined Sotnia
=4th Amur Sotnia

-1st Division Life-Guards Horse-Artillery Brigade

2nd Gds Cavalry
-1st Brigade
=Life-Guards Horse-Grenadier Regiment
=Her Sovereign Majesty Empress Maria Theodorovna's Life-Guards Lancer Regiment

-2nd Brigade
=Life-Guard Dragoon Regiment
=His Majesty's Life-Guards Husssar Regiment

-2nd Division of Life Guards Horse Artillery

23rd Army Corps
-3rd Gds Infantry Division
=1st Brigade
+Life-Guards Lithuania Regiment
+Emperor of Austria's Life-Guard Kexholm Regiment

=2nd Brigade
+King Frederick-William II's Life-Guards St.Petersburg Regiment
+Life-Guards Volhynia Regiment

=3rd Artillery Brigade

-2nd Infantry Division
-Guards Cavalry Brigade
-3rd Life Guard Horse Artillery
-23rd Howitzer Artillery Battalion
-9th Sapper Battalion

Life-Guards 1st Artillery Brigade

Life-Guards 2nd Artillery Brigade

Life-Guards Horse Artillery

Guards Howitzer Artillery Battalion

Life-Guards Sapper Batallion

Guards Aviation Company


Regular Army

Infantry Corps
1st-50th Army Corps

Cavalry Corps
1st-7th Cavalry Corps
1st and 2nd Caucasian Cavalry Corps

Cavalry Divisions
1st-16th Cavalry Division
Caucasian Cavalry Division

Cossack Divisions
1st-5th Caucasian Cossacks
1st-14th Don Cossack Division
1st Transbaikal Cossacks
1st Turkestan Cosssacks
Transcaspian Cossack Brigade
Caucasian Native Horse Division

Militia

In addition to these forces individual cities may maintain militia units of various organizations and qualities. Obviously, larger cities have stronger militias. These forces are usually badly equipped and poorly trained, and are of a very last-ditch nature. They are typically used as cannon-fodder, even moreso than regular reservists.
Listing the types and organizations of these units would be an utter nightmare, so I wont.

Air Force
53 Air Service Detachments

Mostly flying French SPAD biplanes of various models.

Navy
WIP

ORBAT for the Austro-Prussian Army

WIP

ORBAT for South Asian Army

WIP

ORBAT for Army of Hokkaido

WIP

(OOC NOTE:

First off:
As I'm playing as historical Russia, I'm using historical populations (or as close as I could find, anyway). I realize this does not adhere to the norm of II/NationStates, but hear me out here.
Essentially, my idea is that the population of my nation more represents the 'power level' of my country. IE: When first founded, my 1900's era nation, despite having a population of 181 million ICly, had the actual power of a nation of roughly five million. This would be reflected in the economy, the poorly equipped military (Bolt action rifles! The wave of the future! Trade in your rolling blocks and tube-fed lever actions today!), and so forth.
Once my NS population exceeds my IC population, it will be reflected in the nation.

This is, of course, just an idea, and if a lot of people are resoundingly against it I will switch to a more normal system.

Second off:
I realize that this is a rather large armed force for a nation of the size I am playing. This is, as I said, the historical Imperial Russian Army just prior to the Russo-Japanese war (albiet with some technological advances from WWI).

That means that a good portion of my soldiers are still using black powder weapons. If they have firearms at all. It means that a large number of them are, quite literally, living off the land. It is a badly equipped, poorly trained, and rather discontent army. In fact, the only reason there HASNT been a coup yet is that the office of Tsar is respected enough to keep the troops generally in line. For now.

The Guard forces are an exception, of course, being well equipped, trained and supplied.

Any organizational details and assistance is most welcome.)
Antigr
06-12-2008, 19:51
[Where it says MT, this really isn't]
Imperskaya Rossiya
06-12-2008, 20:08
[Where it says MT, this really isn't]

Perhaps I should extend the description there to note the background a bit...

Or I could just link this thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=571283

Thanks for that, though. I should've clarified the situation a bit more.
Imperial isa
06-12-2008, 20:10
ooc still be Past tech
Imperskaya Rossiya
06-12-2008, 20:18
If you say so. I didn't know that soldiers equipped with modern weapons, driving modern vehicles and flying modern planes and generally existing in what we might think of as the 'modern world' were 'past tech'.
Walmington on Sea
06-12-2008, 20:37
((OOC: Indeed, it's not past-tech for any intent or purpose if it's set in the modern world. The only reason he'd qualify it as past-tech would be if he didn't want interaction from modern-tech nations, which seemingly is not the case.

Well, anyway, as you say, the force numbers are fairly high, but not unrealistic in historic terms. I would say that having every hundreth citizen under arms will rather fly in the face of your plans for rapid modernisation, of course.

For now, the Walmingtonian Empire will just enjoy having more modern forces than another nation for once in its history. Petrol-driven tankettes and low-wing monoplanes made largely of starched Newrian linen FTW! I probably should send one of our newfangled oil-fired battleships to show the flag or something.))
Imperial isa
06-12-2008, 20:42
ooc i hope they don't want to in War wise as it be a blood bath in firepower ratio, in my thinking
Imperskaya Rossiya
06-12-2008, 21:00
I'd be happy to meet them with my coal-boiler powered ships :P

But, in any case, the current administration's main focus is first to modernize the standing army. By 'modernize' in most cases I mean 'give them an automatic weapon of some kind'. At the same time, the armies current weapons would go to the reserves, and any weapons produced in the interim while the factories are converted over to something suitable for modern weapons.
There will probably also be some reform in the structure of the army and in the numbers at some point, but right now the focus is on creating a force that wont fold instantly. At least, that the leadership doesn't think will fold instantly.

The main focus right now is shifting the cavalry over to tanks, though. It's not historical, but I've given Nicky a tank fetish, just to make things interesting.

And yes, it would be rather a bit of a bloodbath. World War One tactics and widespread automatic weapons do not mix.
Imperial isa
06-12-2008, 21:04
ooc i still would like to see biplane or triplane fighter Vs jet figther,think it be funny
Imperskaya Rossiya
06-12-2008, 22:06
On a side note:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=574619

Anybody interested in supporting either side (The Qing Chinese or the Russians, or just invading China :P) is welcome to join. Things will be picking up soon.
Red Tide2
06-12-2008, 22:12
I'd The main focus right now is shifting the cavalry over to tanks, though. It's not historical, but I've given Nicky a tank fetish, just to make things interesting.

OOC: I could sell you my excess MBT-66 tanks or my Medusa Tank Destroyers, of the two I have built somewhere inbetween 700-800,000 of them, a good 60% of which sit around in storage waiting for their reserve units to be activated or sold.

Or, if you want to go to someone who has even better tanks (due to knowing more than me) and more to sell, TG this guy:
http://www.nationstates.net/page=display_nation/nation=Dostanuot%20Loj

He has indisputably the biggest tank fleet on NationStates.