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hello we are nerv a super corporation that specializes in special weapons.by that we mean that we are a country who spends more money on research projects than our own self defense army we have developed nearly every type of weapon imaginable from repack able command and control units to high mobility 200ton super tanks,from battleships to large humanoid mecha
u ask and we will make a special request weapon
hears our current stock:
nuclear fusion power plants http://library.thinkquest.org/2763/media/Plant(K).gif
EVA's(the purple one see pic) http://www.sfondideldesktop.com/Imag...elion-0005.jpg
N2 bombs (different variants)nerv's most powerful conventional weapon. It has the power and strength of a nuclear arsenal but produces no radiation. N2 stands for Non-Nuclear.
super high power positron rifle for use with the eva's http://miotd.com/images/20080309.post.jpg
land mates http://www.tohokingdom.com/images/an...andmate_01.jpg
heavy transport craft http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492...8_darpa1_f.jpg
AC130 gunships
V-22 ospreys
type 90 tanks
nuclear fission power plants
fully equipped APC's
aircraft carriers
fully trained special forces soldiers

please all purchases through telegram
also please include your nation name and how many of each you want

http://rofl.wheresthebeef.co.uk/Nerf%20Military.jpg

OOC: EVAs? They would be horribly impractical in real life. Also, you can't just lift things out of an anime. You need to provide specs.

IC: How much does everything even cost? And how do they work?

First thing you need to do, friend, is go to this thread. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=543994) Read it all. Now... are you a Future Tech or Modern Tech nation? While I won't say anything regarding practicality, since my own primary armor are comparatively flimsy Battletech walking tanks, you need to decide where you want to be.

Secondly... doing a storefront with (checks) 5 posts under your belt is not a wise idea. Doing one with 100 posts isn't. Before you can hope to be taken seriously (no offense), you need to demonstrate a real willingness to perform in a meaningful way in role-playing. You can't just show up, copy the 'Storefront' moniker, and write a single incoherent sentence for every copy-pasted image you find.

Now, observe:This is your nation's statistics. (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=NERV+arms+conglomerate) You are an 8 million person nation -- you are too small to RP an arms manufacturer. Additionally, while you have a respectable amount of your funds going towards Defense, it is nothing next to a more respectably-sized nation: Your Defense budget, for example, is $3,635,928,796. Mine is $1,370,761,392,000. In addition, you see that little section that says, "Major Industry"? Yours is Automobile Manufacturing. Mine is Arms Manufacturing. My position is where you ideally wish to be, if you truly want to sell yourself as a arms-dealing nation. For reference, here's mine. (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=the+Great+Lord+Tiger)

Play Nationstates for another month or so, RP a little in smaller threads, and then you'll get to the point where a storefront is more appropriate.

Aww. Does this mean I can't have a 1000-foot living paperweight?

hello we are nerv a super corporation that specializes in special weapons.by that we mean that we are a country who spends more money on research projects than our own self defense army we have developed nearly every type of weapon imaginable from repack able command and control units to high mobility 200ton super tanks,from battleships to large humanoid mecha
u ask and we will make a special request weapon
hears our current stock:


OOC: Points fo improvement:


Spellcheck - It's so simple to use
"Every Weapon Imaginable" - No, not likely
As GLT said, you really are too small to be manufacturing arms at this time
"Spend more on R&D than on Defence" - Ok, so you should be a breeze to defeat if someone decided to invade you, no?
Please, don't use text talk.


If you want to see how a real storefront works on NS, go here

Doomingsland Storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=533908)

Or here

Quester's Naval Storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=557728)

Or, god help you, here

Exterminatus Arms (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=556270)

If you want to see how a real storefront works on NS, go here

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Exterminatus Arms (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=556270)

Rotorless helicopters? Aerial aircraft carriers? Zythogonic-Energy?

All you've done is slap some ridiculous (in MT) stats onto copyrighted images. You could really stand to learn from the other storefronts you have linked. I'm sorry to say it, but your storefront is not the correct place to learn of off.

Not only would I amongst many others consider using such equipment in MT roleplays as Godmodding, you're also breaking copyright law.

Rotorless helicopters? Aerial aircraft carriers? Zythogonic-Energy?

All you've done is slap some ridiculous (in MT) stats onto copyrighted images. You could really stand to learn from the other storefronts you have linked. I'm sorry to say it, but your storefront is not the correct place to learn of off.

Not only would I amongst many others consider using such equipment in MT roleplays as Godmodding, you're also breaking copyright law.

OOC: it is in the Realm of Post-Modern Tech mainly, the closest any MT nation can get to FT without stepping into FT.

OOC: it is in the Realm of Post-Modern Tech mainly, the closest any MT nation can get to FT without stepping into FT.

No, MT nations use Modern Tech, PMT nations use Post-Modern Tech. The former can't use the latter without leaving its tech-space.

Come on, it's all in the stickies.

No, MT nations use Modern Tech, PMT nations use Post-Modern Tech. The former can't use the latter without leaving its tech-space.

Come on, it's all in the stickies.

are you talking about Ustio North?

from the desk of Gendo Icari

thanks for the constructive replies to be honest this was a test at how other nations react to a post-modern tech storefront the images i have used are suitable for the "tech"
the large transport image is of a proposed US military transport its known as project walrus
all copyright images belong to there respective owners
also we will open a working storefront when we gain a higher level economy so we can sell our little science projects properly

if you telegram we will sell you one of our N2 bombs (statistics coming soon)

The N2 bomb is a clean "non-nuclear weapon"; it is as strong as a nuclear bomb and generates some electro-magnetic interference but does not produce dangerous radiation or nuclear fallout it is a highly efficient pure fusion bomb, and thus very little to no radioactive material left over from the reaction, though the initial reaction would produce much radiation all structures inside the blast radius will be vaporized.
the explosion size is 247 SQ miles
there is currently over a thousand produced, and the current selection of N2 bombs are as follows
N2 cruse missile
N2 bomb
N2 aerial mine
N2 aquatic mine
N2 land based mine
N2 mini-different specification blast radius 200 SQ meters total destruction within the blast radius

order through telegram we are currently building more so if we cant afford your order now it will be acquirable in the future.

Rotorless helicopters? Aerial aircraft carriers? Zythogonic-Energy?

All you've done is slap some ridiculous (in MT) stats onto copyrighted images. You could really stand to learn from the other storefronts you have linked. I'm sorry to say it, but your storefront is not the correct place to learn of off.

Not only would I amongst many others consider using such equipment in MT roleplays as Godmodding, you're also breaking copyright law.

OOC: Ok, first things first: If you wanted to slag off my storefront you should have have TG'd me about it.

Secondly, I do know that my storefront isn't the best out there, so I really don't need everyone telling me that (And as a point, at least I do go to the trouble of actually giving them stats, rather than just a link for a picture).

Thirdly, i'm guessing you completely ignored the line of text at the top of the first post in my Storefront naming the places i got the images from and giving credit where credit was due. Since i'm not claiming that the pictures are my work, there's no problem with copyright law.

The N2 bomb is a clean "non-nuclear weapon"; it is as strong as a nuclear bomb and generates some electro-magnetic interference but does not produce dangerous radiation or nuclear fallout it is a highly efficient pure fusion bomb, with no fission tamper, and thus very little to no radioactive material left over from the reaction, though the initial reaction would produce much radiation all structures inside the blast radius will be vaporized.
the explosion size is 247 SQ miles.

You have no idea how fusion works.

nuclear fusion is the process by which multiple like-charged atomic nuclei join together to form a heavier nucleus. It is accompanied by the release or absorption of energy. Iron and nickel nuclei have the largest binding energies per nucleon of all nuclei. The fusion of two nuclei with lower mass than iron generally releases energy while the fusion of nuclei heavier than iron absorbs energy; vice-versa for the reverse process, nuclear fission.

OOC: That was not his point NERV. He was commenting on the incredible unrealism and godmodding for the "N2" weapon. A radiationless fusion bomb would be impossible to build. The only thing that has come close to radiationless nuclear bomb of equivlent strength is a thermobaric device, which has almost nothing to do with nuclear weapons in the first place.

the way the N2 works is to apply a rapid pulse of energy to a large part of the surface of a pellet of fusion fuel, causing it to simultaneously "implode" and heat to very high pressure and temperature this implosion is felt within the blast radius and the low pressure area around the implosion creates a large vacuum anything in the area is sucked into the center of the implosion creating an area of extreme density.

OOC: Yes, but that still doesn't accounting for the leftover radiation. Again, I remain firm on the fact that this weapon is unrealistic, and needs to be altered greatly. Unless you are a nation set way past FT, you really should greatly consider making adjustments to your equipment.

true i am familiar with the "father of all bombs" and yes thermobaric explosives are an alternative to the N2 weapon but the radiation would be in a concentrated spot (the center of the implosion) and the implosion is localized to a 20mile SQ area in the center a 5mile SQ area the N2 has been refined to allow for the least amount of radiation dispersal

80% of the radiation is kept within the 5mile center the other 20% is scattered within the 20 SQ mile implosion area

nuclear fusion is the process by which multiple like-charged atomic nuclei join together to form a heavier nucleus. It is accompanied by the release or absorption of energy. Iron and nickel nuclei have the largest binding energies per nucleon of all nuclei. The fusion of two nuclei with lower mass than iron generally releases energy while the fusion of nuclei heavier than iron absorbs energy; vice-versa for the reverse process, nuclear fission.

Nice job copy/pasting from Wikipedia.

the way the N2 works is to apply a rapid pulse of energy to a large part of the surface of a pellet of fusion fuel, causing it to simultaneously "implode" and heat to very high pressure and temperature this implosion is felt within the blast radius and the low pressure area around the implosion creates a large vacuum anything in the area is sucked into the center of the implosion creating an area of extreme density.

What you are describing in the first section is how fusion bombs work. What you do not realize is that after the fusion fuel implodes, it starts to fuse. This creates a massive explosion.

Nuclear weapons do not create implosions, save for the process by which they are triggered. That implosion is tiny, and serves only to compress the fuel.

If you want an implosion weapon, try a fuel-air bomb.

OOC: So it goes from produing no radiation to suddenly producing some? Also, a nuclear device could not cover 200+ square miles. That's roughly the distance from Dover, England to Paris; or for us Americans, New York to Baltimore. The largest atomic/fission/fusion/nuclear/whatever bomb ever concieved and tested had an estimate maximum range of 35-45 square miles. I believe the Peacekeeper II Missile has a maximum range of 20-25 miles.

the radiation problem or rather the lack of was a mistake by our advertising sector as for the size we have tried to make the area smaller but when we tried using less fuel we couldn't sustain the implosion for long enough (approx 1 second) to create the most efficient vacuum effect as for our small n2 bomb we are currently developing that now and want to start a back log of orders for it.

OOC: Yes, please. The sooner you fix your designs, the better all of us, including you, wil lbe!

i would like to point out that the name came from the advertising departments favorite anime "neon genesis evangellion" and that the designs are currently not perfect but they are improving like the N3 weapon should have a smaller blast radius and less radiation fallout but the N3 hasn't reached the testing stage yet it is still in the design stage.
right now we are concentrating on refining the N2 weapon

i would like to point out that the name came from the advertising departments favorite anime "neon genesis evangellion" and that the designs are currently not perfect but they are improving like the N3 weapon should have a smaller blast radius and less radiation fallout but the N3 hasn't reached the testing stage yet it is still in the design stage.
right now we are concentrating on refining the N2 weapon
As a question, you do know what "OOC" means, right?

no i don't
i assume it means something
what does it mean?

It means "out of character". OOC is used to preface posts or parts of posts that are being said by the person behind the computer, not the nation that they are playing as.

IC, or "in character", is used when you want to distinguish between IC and OOC parts of the same post. It is not necessary to use IC when there is no OOC part of a post.

More information here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8784646&postcount=4)

thanks you have been a great help

Nice job copy/pasting from Wikipedia.



What you are describing in the first section is how fusion bombs work. What you do not realize is that after the fusion fuel implodes, it starts to fuse. This creates a massive explosion.

Nuclear weapons do not create implosions, save for the process by which they are triggered. That implosion is tiny, and serves only to compress the fuel.

If you want an implosion weapon, try a fuel-air bomb.

OOC
the N2 bomb uses the implosion to start the fusion process but the implosion is also used to create a vacuum effect the fact that there is a large explosion as well just adds to the destruction
the primary base for the weapon is that it uses a prolonged implosion and then the explosion to destroy the blast area then the whole thing ends like how a sun dies exept much faster all that is left is an extremely dense area

OOC:

It sounds to me like you are trying to create a nuclear-vacuum bomb. This will not work, because a nuke does not need oxygen to explode. There is no combustion in a nuclear explosion, save that of flammable materials ignited by the tremendous heat.

Vacuum bombs work by using up all the oxygen in an area as a result of their explosion, causing a vacuum.

Also, there is a difference between a vacuum and an implosion. A vacuum is a void in a space. A vacuum, as said above, can be caused by an event at it's center that removes the material from the vacuum space. An implosion is a compression, generally as a result of an explosion on the surface of the implosion space.

OOC: Kereptica, does this guy remind you "slightly" of Roef/Canedian Army?

OOC: In his belligerence, ignorance, and obsession with anime, yes. He does seem willing to accept help however, unlike Ryou.

OOC: Yea, I guess we must give him that.

It means "out of context". OOC is used to preface posts or parts of posts that are being said by the person behind the computer, not the nation that they are playing as.

IC, or "in context", is used when you want to distinguish between IC and OOC parts of the same post. It is not necessary to use IC when there is no OOC part of a post.

More information here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8784646&postcount=4)

Wooooah, looks like you need to read the sticky you've just linked! OOC generally means Out of Character, because something can still be in context whilst OOC.

Meh. A semantic slip, sure, but still intelligible. He's obviously using it correctly now, and since it's an acronym, the real meaning doesn't make a difference in this situation.

Meh. A semantic slip, sure, but still intelligible. He's obviously using it correctly now, and since it's an acronym, the real meaning doesn't make a difference in this situation.

It could imply the same thing, it all depends on what you consider the 'context' to mean. It's far simpler to say 'character' however, especially in order not to confuse a new player, as it should hopefully prompt an understanding of the differences between an in-character opinion from your own, stemming from the two different personalities.

True. Edit'd.

true i am familiar with the "father of all bombs" and yes thermobaric explosives are an alternative to the N2 weapon but the radiation would be in a concentrated spot (the center of the implosion) and the implosion is localized to a 20mile SQ area in the center a 5mile SQ area the N2 has been refined to allow for the least amount of radiation dispersal

OOC: Your bomb, with a fireball radius of 5 square miles and in a "clean" setting, is going to weight 50-100 tons. For your previous 247 square miles claim, your bomb would weigh as much as an asteroid or comet, at least. Both of which highly impractical.

This is aside from it's unworkability and your lack of understanding how nukes work.

He gets it. Stop flaming the dude.

OOC:thank you great lord tiger
also may i please note that in an earlier post i told you that this shopfront is just a test the fact that i decided that the N2 would be continued selling is also part of the experiment the N2 design is lifted from the anime neon genesis evangellion and most of the machines in my shopfront are from anime's as and when i do open my real shopfront i will design my own products

OOC: I CAN HAZ CHEESEBURGERZ!?

No, but seriously, a big nuke... would be useful, but inpractical. Perhaps you could produce, say, six, and stick them under the ground of your country as a last ditch defence method?

ooc thanks the current N2 weapon is only to test to see what people would think of a super fusion nuke
the N2 weapon i will sell will be more feasible and of a much smaller size a weapon of the size of the TEST N2 is completely impossible for many reasons my real shopfront will open when i beleve the time is right and i would like to thank all of you for your criticisms

OOC:i would like to add that no super-self destruction bombs are ever going to be produced ever!!!!!!!!!
we do not accept destroying ourselves as a win it would be un-honorable and stupid

OOC: Well, not necessarily. If the enemy think that they're winning and push the offensive, seeing half their army get wiped out by nuclear weapons does a lot of damage to morale. In addition, if the enemy knows that you will use nuclear weapons then they will be a lot more reluctant to fight you.

On the other hand, there's this wonderful little thing called morality, and it's very, very important so I guess that it's down to you.

OOC:we don't except death as a win if it destroys our lands for years to come(even if the damage is only 5 miles) also a emergency nuke network like that would need extream security because of terrorist threat