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OOC: This group is relatively symbolic and re-inforces sovreignty over the islands.

Confederate Imperial Proclomation

The Confederate Empire, whic has sovrerignty over a region of the Former Ryou Black Islands, wishes to create a league with the other administrators of the islands, The Grand World Order, The Fascist Dictatorship of the Rykarian Territories, and The Federation of Stoklomovi. This group is not based upon political ideology, but the belief for a better Ryou Islands. It works for agricultural and industrial cooperation for the stability of the islands. It asks that there be a central, ceremonial leader for the Ryouese people of the four powers that have sovreignty over the islands, as well as a central consensus assembly for the Ryouese people. It asks that they have their home rule ensured to judge what is best for them, but it also asks that the power's central government keeps an eye on the devolution and to what degree of autonomy can be excercised. To act for the stability of the islands is to act for the stability of all the four powers that have sovreignty over the islands, and the wellness of the Ryouese People.

Signed into act and proclaimed the first member and founder of the League of the Ryou Islands,

Ryou Islands President and Freedom Party Chairman- Reginald Deere

I should say that there is a chance the Ryou islands could be handed over to me by Ryou, it isn't finalized yet, but I wanted to bring it up.

OOC: in any case claiming to have conquered an inactive player is considered either bad form or a godmode, as BA stated earlier.

OOC: Ryou and I started the war in September.

OOC: in any case claiming to have conquered an inactive player is considered either bad form or a godmode, as BA stated earlier.

ooc: quoted for agreeance.

OOC: Ryou and I started war in September.

OOC: yeah, and the moment he goes inactive you start claiming to have succesfully invaded him and crushed all resistance.

II doesnt work like that, Im afraid. It takes the defender's participation to RP a nation's conquest.

If you want to conquer Ryou, you will have to wait until he becomes active again. This is a godmode.

OOC: With no government governing his islands, we've been moving in. I'd be happy to fight the rebels, just dunno how i'd RP that.

OOC: With no government governing his islands, we've been moving in. I'd be happy to fight the rebels, just dunno how i'd RP that.

Just hold off for now, see what Ryou is going to do whether he's going to turn over control or return or simply let it sink into the NationStates Sea, it will work best I think in this case

OOC: With no government governing his islands, we've been moving in. I'd be happy to fight the rebels, just dunno how i'd RP that.

OOC: just because ryou went inactive does not mean that the government magically disappeared. You have to wait until he returns or he authorizes someone else to RP his nation for him.

I'm saying you cant just "move in" if hes inactive, thats a godmode.

OOC: With no government governing his islands, we've been moving in. I'd be happy to fight the rebels, just dunno how i'd RP that.

OOC: You can't, that's the point.

OOC: So, my military gets battered, Qingdao becomes a heap of dust, and I lose billions of dollars for nothing? Pfft....

OOC: So, my military gets battered, Qingdao becomes a heap of dust, and I lose billions of dollars for nothing? Pfft....

Not necessarily you don't even have to accept that situation even happened unless you really want too

The hell? Suppose I go inactive you gonna move in on my land too?

OOC: So, my military gets battered, Qingdao becomes a heap of dust, and I lose billions of dollars for nothing? Pfft....

OOC: yup, unless you decide to retcon the war. Welcome to II.

OOC: Lord Sumguy, what does the latter sentence in your statement mean? Also, I can't retconn his existence, because the physical existence of his islands lives on, and i'm not going to back out on the damage like he did. I'm not a hypocrite.

OOC: The physical existence of his islands is as fluid as his existence as the leader of them. This is the internet, not real life.

OOC: Lord Sumguy, what does the latter sentence in your statement mean? Also, I can't retconn his existence, because the physical existence of his islands lives on, and i'm not going to back out on the damage like he did. I'm not a hypocrite.

OOC: it meant that is how things are done on the International Incidents forum.

If you dont want to retcon anything, then you just have to wait and hope he comes back.

OOC: Why did Ryou run off on me, anyway? He says I ruined his NS, and when I ask why, he just scurries away. I didn't mean to upset him or "ruin his NS", and I have repeatedly said this is a fight between our nations, not ourselves. He continues to be upset even after I tell him i'd be happy to apologize for whatever I did and go back on it. I just don't get it.

I want to now what is with This Anti-Hataria that has started up again. why can't people leave The past alone?

OOC: Why did Ryou run off on me, anyway? He says I ruined his NS, and when I ask why, he just scurries away. I didn't mean to upset him or "ruin his NS", and I have repeatedly said this is a fight between our nations, not ourselves. He continues to be upset even after I tell him i'd be happy to apologize for whatever I did and go back on it. I just don't get it.

OOC: ryou is rather an...interesting fellow, and one must learn to accept that other RPers on II may at times be somewhat eccentric.

OOC: EC, this is a MAJOR god-mode because your claiming land of a former nation that has become inactive. Its also a cowardly way of claiming new land.

OOC: Why did Ryou run off on me, anyway? He says I ruined his NS, and when I ask why, he just scurries away. I didn't mean to upset him or "ruin his NS", and I have repeatedly said this is a fight between our nations, not ourselves. He continues to be upset even after I tell him i'd be happy to apologize for whatever I did and go back on it. I just don't get it.

You do know who you're roleplaying with there, don't you? If I was you I'd just retcon it, learn from it and move on. It's easier to just not deal with Ryou/Hataria than go through all this everytime things don't go his way.

Nevertheless you can't claim his nation. That's very poor RP etiquette.

OOC: EC, this is a MAJOR god-mode because your claiming land of a former nation that has become inactive. Its also a cowardly way of claiming new land.

OOC: I'd rather have taken it in a more fair manner and let him keep a lot of it.

OOC: you're not helping EC. Just forget about this. You're starting to cause more trouble with god-moding and I have little respect to you now.

(OOC: All of the Ryou Black Islands were based of real islands, therefore, they exist in the NS Universe, therefore, we have simply conquered them, This is not about Ryou anymore, it's about Taking land, stop whining and calling EC a Godmoder, because he isnt.)

From: The Rykarian Office of Internal Affairs

To: The East Congaree Office of Internal Affairs

Rykaria would like to join the League of the Ryou Islands.

From: East Congaree Executive Office

To: Rykarian Office of Internal Affairs

Accepted, you are now a member.


Thank You,

East Congaree Freedom Party Chairman and President- Reginald Deere

OOC: Nothing exists in the NS universe! Hundreds of new nations are made every week! Half of the people here RP in completely different time! The NS universe has as many ties to the RL universe as the Lovecraft universe does!

(OOC: All of the Ryou Black Islands were based of real islands, therefore, they exist in the NS Universe, therefore, we have simply conquered them, This is not about Ryou anymore, it's about Taking land, stop whining and calling EC a Godmoder, because he isnt.)

From: The Rykarian Office of Internal Affairs

To: The East Congaree Office of Internal Affairs

Rykaria would like to join the League of the Ryou Islands.

OOC: doesnt matter if they are based off of star wars, if he doesnt exist neither do they, and if hes inactive its a godmode to RP the conquest of his land.

OOC: only the mods an stop this.

The difference here is that Ryou isn't dead, he's just inactive. Should he return with Ryou (which is probable) he has all right to claim his islands.

If he were dead, gone, or deleted, than this would be moot. But it's not.

Let's say I lose my internet for a few months and disappear. However, I can keep my nation alive because it's in vacation mode and I can visit the library (or something).

Once I return after getting my internet back I discover... that a bunch of noobs have claimed my land.

Can you see now why that's incredibly poor form and makes you look like a colossal noob?

OOC: For the first time, I actually feel a bit sorry for Ryou. :rolleyes:

Its a godmode to take an inactive nation's land.

OOC: Do note that he just didn't go inactive, he just quit his nation. Under this, I assume the land is still there.

OOC: Damnit! Have you listened to anything I've said?

OOC: Do note that he just didn't go inactive, he just quit his nation. Under this, I assume the land is still there.

And it still belongs to him until such a time as his nation dies.

All right everyone please direct your attention to this:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=574658

OOC: I'll retconn my invasion of the islands and the whole Tea War from the time of the pirate outbreak. This, however, should be seen as a fair action and not hypocrisy, as it is not comparable to Ryou pulling out of the RP.

OOC: I'm retconning my entire existence in this conflict, peace out.

OOC: I'll retconn my invasion of the islands and the whole Tea War from the time of the pirate outbreak. This, however, should be seen as a fair action and not hypocrisy, as it is not comparable to Ryou pulling out of the RP.

OOC: It is seen as a fair action. We're all sorry you wasted your time with it, but it is, unfortunately, a risk we all take with Ryou.