NationStates Jolt Archive

(OOC: Looking for dedicated good RPers, I attempted to set this up before but there was not enough interest...)


The Constitution : First Draft

All Nations must follow the Human Rights set down in this constitution. Furthermore they must want to and take action to stop the breaches of these basic rules all across the world, even if it may require Military force.

Any Nation may join as long as they agree with and practise all laws an codes within this article.

All Nations must want to resolve unnecessary conflict across the world.

All nations have the opportunity vote for a three nation Committee that will decide which situations to get involved with. They will need to be nominated by a nation and then seconded by another, if this happens they will go to vote. They shall be the voice of the Coalition and there word is final. All decisions made by them must have a majority vote. The Committee's word is final unless a majority vote amongst member nations decides to repeal any decision made by the Committee. Any Nation has a say in what they think and the situation at hand. Any nation can suggest what kind of action to take place and may notify the committee of any situations. Only the Committee has the power to change the Constitution.
A new Committee shall be voted every three months (RL) and the first elections shall take place in three months (February 6th 2009). The default Committee members are Whiskeasy, and two more to be decided.

All Nations must be prepared form the start to give some form of support to every problem recognized by the Committee. If this is military, humanitarian aide or monetary it must be made clear from the start. Every Nation will be needed to take military action, only a few special cases will be allowed in just to give diplomatic and huminatarian aide. The possibility of a similar Coalition of Nations who support our goals may be made.

Most problems will be attempted to be resolved via diplomacy, if all else fails then military action shall take place in extreme circumstances.

All nations have the opportunity to leave at any time, although they are reminded they have made a commitment and loyalty oath.

The Committee has the right to suspend or expel any nation from the alliance, pending an investigation and majority vote.

Any nation can put forward a motion for the Council to vote on.

Inter-member aggression is forbidden and any member/s that partake in agression shall be immediately suspended until an investigation decides who is responsible and suitable punishment.

All nations joining must agree to this constitution.

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.

Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 6

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

Article 7

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 8

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Article 11

Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Article 13

Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each State.
Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
Article 14

Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes.
Article 15

Everyone has the right to a nationality.
No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
Article 16

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
Article 17

Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 19

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

Article 20

Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Article 21

Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
Everyone has the right to equal access to public service in his country.
The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.
Article 22

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

Article 23

Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.
Article 24

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

Article 25

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.
Article 26

Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the HRS for the maintenance of peace.
Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.
Article 27

Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.
Article 28

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

Article 29

Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

(Any thoughts good, bad, add something, remove something? I need Committee members, any takers? It will be a hard job.)

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opportunity (to) vote (grammar mistake i feel in the first part)


Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, color, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion(creed would take this place), national or social origin, property, birth or other status.

Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person(hood?)

Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.(this could be used to kill off free press/muckrakers, make it harder to arrest the corrupt.)

and principles of the United Nations.(very very very bad, no such thing on/in this forums)

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.(possible limiting of same sex marriages)

Article 24


Elementary education shall be compulsory. (limits freedom of choice)

(used it again) further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

and Chazaka will not be joining this alliance any time soon(severely limits some of our current rights/justice system)

Secretary For Foreign Affairs Edward Scissenfeld:

While our nation is not part of this organization we support it and its principles. We reserve the right to apply for membership at a later date. As We are the most democratic nation in the world. We would be a great asset to this organization. Providing our knowledge, advice and experience in the Human Rights Coalition organization. We would be willing to give any outside of the organization help we can by request.

Foreign Affairs Minister, Felipe Perez Roque
LHC State Council of Ministers Collective
La Habana Cuba Socialist Democratic Republic.

President Raul Castro Ruz
Comandante en Jefe Fidel Castro Ruz.

(OOC: Okay, I want in on this and I'd like to offer as much help as you want. I'm studying right now with a group, so I can't get something IC out right now, but I will tonight so just keep me in mind and whatnot -- just figured I should say something now. : ) )

great well at this stage I think anyone can join. Well chazaka this is the actual UN declaration of human rights. However I suppose I can editsome of the articles if you want. Will get around to editting later, I am on an iPod touch now and it is very fiddly.

(All instances of "United Nations" need to be replaced. Some of the articles actually should be edited for their not being close enough to universal in the NS world)

IC:

TO: The Government of Whiskeasy

We Santherese have long held basic human rights as sacred obligations which we must all respect. It is because of this that we wish to join this coalition to improve the standard of lives across the world. The charter, however, must undergo some editing before we can agree to such a thing. First and foremost, there are peoples who would not fit into the generally accepted "human" category that must be taken into account. We feel this must be addressed.

OOC: I know, I just didn't have time to proof read it the whole way through.... This is a first draft so anything can be changed...

To Foreign Affairs Minister, Felipe Perez Roque
Please join at anytime however the constitution is in the process of being redrafted.
Edward Scissenfeld

To Santheras
We believe that the term 'human' should be translated as a being that has capability for highly intelligent thought, the ability to make a society, use tools and communicate in a recognizable language. Other editing to the constitution is under progress and we welcome you to the HRS. Perhaps you would be interested in a place on the Committee?
Edward Scissenfeld

OOC: just change UN to WA if you have to mention it. But me and probably other are not WA and don't want to be, and sorry about the spelling, I am bad at this and IE has no spell checker

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To whomever it may be concerning,
The People's Republic of Crysaliniah are interested in joining this coalition, we are wholly supporting of equality and rights and think that, although it is a work in progress, that we would like to be a part of maiking the world a beter place.
With Faith,
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Cadence Romanov
Elected head of Government

OOC: You can download upgrades for your browser so you can have a spell checker, or download the new Firefox. And I have changed the UN to the HRS, WA has nothing to do with this. (Human Rights Society or the Human Rights Coalition)

To Cadence Romanov
Welcome to the HRS, we welcome all nations who believe in the upkeep of Human Rights. We hope to expand our membership over the next few days.
Edward Scissenfeld

Bumparooney!!

To: The HRS.
From: Vice President Harry Jackson.
Subject: Sryesian HRS Membership Request.

Dear sir/ma'am,

The Republic of Sryesia requests full membership of the Human Rights Coalition. We have long upholded human rights since our independence from the UK, and hope to join this organization very soon.

We have strong beliefs in human rights. Our enormous welfare state proves such, with a very small amount of homeless, who are still looked after by the government and charities.

As my president is currently in a meeting with the ROTB president, he cannot send this message. But he, myself and Sryesia hope for membership of this coalition soon.

Vice President Harry Jackson.

OOC: I may consider joining. Ever since the Mewsland Conflcit, I've been considering starting a World Court organization.

To: All Nations
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs

We condemn this alliance with the utmost of severity. This is a group of "world policemen" who's only intent is to spread their filthy leftist ideals of democracy and abused civil rights. They have no right to interfere within a nation's internal affairs without reason. Our nation has every right to lock up every leftist scumbag in our nation and wipe out the Anarcho-Communists that dare to expose themselves in our nation.

We will issue this alliance a warning; if you so much as threaten an IFA member, we will not hesitate to take action, even if it requires military force. If you attack a Fascist nation, you can expect equal repercussions from us.

(OOC: as with the previous thread, my membership of this is based entirely on the outcome of my current situation. Government win: Never. Rebel win: probably. In the meantime, I shall lurk this thread xD feel free to ignore this post)

ToAll interested parties
Consider yourself in the coalition, and Grand World Order. Not all nations against war and cruelty have to be "leftists". The threatening of your Nation would only come when you are thrown into bloody political turmoil and need help. Consider us more as good samiratans then policemen. Falkasia, please feel free to make a world court within us. You would be welcomed and I know that my nation may join.
Your friend
Edward Scissenfeld

OOC: hey, quick question, I never joined any coalitions or something, will there be IC meetings and stuff?

OOC:Yep, lots of those.

To: GWO Office of Foreign Affairs
From: Santherese Diplomatic Corps

We do not wish to interfere in the domestic affairs of your nation. You are unlikely to ever see our peacekeeping troops if you actually have the level of control over your populace to which you claim. If the IFA takes care of fascist nations in a similar respect, there should be no concerns. Our concern is more for the unlawful violation of rights under illegitimate or nonexistent governments. Fascist governments, though perhaps disapproved of by our people, are still usually legitimate. And we hope to instill more of our own opinion into the HRS.

Perhaps you should give us a chance to at least finalize our mission statement before raising your hackles? We hope to see you on the positive side of diplomacy in the future.

We would also note that we are not, in fact, a democracy.

Pax tibi.

--

To: Whiskeasy, Falkasia
CC: HRS

We fear that we cannot participate in a world court as certain laws are not universal and should never be so, and there is no telling at this juncture whether or not this court will attempt to enforce its biased will on things over which it should have no say. Too, we hope to not see this as a part of the HRS. Should we see a charter for the court and it be to our satisfaction, we would be much more approving, however until that time, we hope that a court is not instituted and pray our concerns be heard and taken seriously.



(OOC: yes, by the way, I would like to be a committee member; I meant to say that earlier, so if you could just, like, retcon that in, that'd be awesome. =P)

To Santheres

We would like to point out that the World Court would be a separate organization but run parallel with the ideals and principles of the HRS. It would also be a voluntary affair. Your country is not a democracy and unfortunately that is one of the Articles in the Constitution, is it some sort of people controlled monarchy or benevolent dictatorship. If so does this pose a problem to your involvement in the HRS.
Hoping difficulties can be sorted out,
Edward Scissenfeld

To: Whiskeasy

In fact, we are a republic, as are many of the other states here. The only difference is that we have no illusions of being more democratic than we are. We are, in fact and deed, a noble republic with universal suffrage, and there is no statement requiring democracy or democratic republican government.

We also must caution you to never suggest we are a monarchy in any way, shape, or form, to any Santherese citizen; this is considered a great insult to our heritage.

To Santheres

We meant no offense meant, we were merely inquiring as to your political system. We find everything to be in order and hope to see you as the second Committee member. We do need however to increase our membership. Perhaps you could help?
Your friend,
Edward Scissenfeld

ToAll interested parties
Consider yourself in the coalition, and Grand World Order. Not all nations against war and cruelty have to be "leftists". The threatening of your Nation would only come when you are thrown into bloody political turmoil and need help. Consider us more as good samiratans then policemen. Falkasia, please feel free to make a world court within us. You would be welcomed and I know that my nation may join.
Your friend
Edward Scissenfeld

OOC: Thanks. Glad you like my idea! My computer's still down, but I'll get started on it right away. Also, my country for example is far from leftist. Falkasia slides farther to the right in mainly policies, although our people are slgihtly leftist in ideals.

Now, for all of those who are wondering, I thought up the idea of a World Court after the Mewsland Conflict. The trial against Mewsland was incredibly godmodded and one-sided, as such happens when the winner tries the loser. I then began to think up an organzation that would span the world, and provide free and unbiased trials for natinos brought before the Court. The WA is incredibly weak and has no force and authority to enforce it's mandates. There has yet to be (If I'm not mistaken, with the exception of this HRS) any force strong or capable enough to uphold the ethical treatment of citizens.

What I have thought up so far:
The World Court would be an International Entity, with elected positions voted upon by the member nations. It would have juridiction over only affairs regarding war crimes, crimes against humanity, crimes committed by a single person/ group of people, and similar crimes of that nature. However, the Court will have no jurisdiction over a nation's internal affairs (unless said nation is a member of the Court), unless any of the aforementioned crimes are brought to the attention of the acting Court leader (name/title to be determined). Any nation may be brought to trial in front of the World Court, although membership is not required for the nation(s) being tried, nor the nation(s) who are acting as Plantif. This way, you aren't forced to join the World Court even if you want to try someone or a nation through it. All rules, regulations, mandates, and similar acts will be debatable and voted upon by member nations, each of which having an equal number number of votes and therefore an equal say in the matter.

The basic rules and characteristics are still in the process of development. Any suggestions you may have, feel free to offer them! I'm all ears and taking ideas!

OOC: Yeah I like that idea, what about you Santheres?

occ
heh?This has no god modding(mostly because mewsland hasn't replied but still) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=573957) but i'll admit that this one was, but thats because people ignored my op (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=573633&page=9)

IC
Chazaka has furthered reviewed the document and while we are pleased that the suggested changes have been written in we still decline to join at this time.

OOC: Yea, I was only referencing Mewsland. I also meant the "original" trial thread, not the real one.

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(OOC: war crimes and crimes against humanity are acceptable to us for a world court organization; I hesitate to include anything else unless a given nonmember nation decided that we were a sufficiently neutral party. Still, I'd need absolute, concrete details on the workings of it to offer IC approval, not just ideas. Good basis, though, I think.)

OOC: Let's jus get back to this later... current problems, members! JOIN NOW GET A FREE KITTEN!!

Kitten!!!

From the desk of Waldemir Deskot, Imperial House, Volitaia.

Whilst I and many others of my goverment agree with many of the proposals suggested by this accord, we feel that too many of said proposals are directed against the establishment of a respectable Fascist goverment such as our own, it is unfortunate to see alliance blocks still operating with the segregation of political ideology.
IndentHowever, as I mentioned previously, Toopoxia respects several of the key proposals put forwards by this coalition, we would like to retain a friendly link with this alliance, hopefully you will changed of your opinions on Fascism, and will continue to quietly observe and support the aims of this peaceful union.

Signed,
Premier Waldemir Deskot.

To Premier Waldemir Deskot
From Edward Scissenfeld

We would like to point out that we are not anti-fasict, we just believe that democracy is a vital part of any Government. We thank you for your support and hope that you will be able to join us some time soon.
Your friend,
Edward Scissenfeld.

To: Premier Waldemir Deskot

At the very least, we Santherese are more than willing to hear the opinions of all nations which would see us in a friendly light. As such, we would like to welcome you to voice some of your concerns for specifically so that, perhaps, they may be amended in a fashion more preferable to your ideals without damaging our end goal.

As was previously stated to the Grand World Order, it is not the purpose of this coalition to hunt down fascist governments or attempt to bring them down in any way. We are willing to accept that fascism may have a place in the world when followed responsibly without the general extremism that may be frequently seen but is not, in our opinion, required. We are more concerned with taking care of our fellow people when have not the ability to take care of themselves, or have a government lacking -- willingly or unwillingly -- the ability to provide to them the basic necessities of life.

In the end, Santheres is humanitarian but still flexible. Perhaps certain proposals can be changed without sacrificing our central mission.

Pax tibi,
Regnant Marco de Rossi

From the desk of Waldemir Deskot, Imperial House, Volitaia.

Rest assured Toopoxia is not a bloodthirsty warmongering Fascist state as the world has seen in the past or indeed as we may soon be seeing, our priority is the comfortable existence of not only our nation but those we have an impact upon, no doubt when my tenure as Premier ends we may very well end up with a Premier less willing to share the ideals currently prevailent in Toopoxia, such is the folly of even the most partial of Democracies.
IndentBelow is a list of our concerns, including the protocol followed in Toopoxia.

Concerns:

"All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood."
In Toopoxia all human beings are considered equal under the Superiority of the Toopoxican State, otherwise we maintain and promote a brotherhood among our citizens.

"Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him."
The Toopoxican Ministry of Law determines such things, protocol concerning criminal charges is to have present the lawyer for the prosecution, the lawyer for the defence and the judge who posesses the right to determine guilty or innocent and sets the overall sentence.

"No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks."
Members of Military Intelligence are granted the right to interference in privacy and correspondence as a matter of national security and with no limitation.

"Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State."
Excluding Gay Marriage.

"Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others."
Azilstani nationals, or former nationals with no special dispensation, are not permitted the right to own property within Toopoxia.

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance."
Promotion of materials concerning a matter of national security, example: promotion of anti-fascist organisations, is illegal, as is the promotion of all religious beliefs.

"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."
Again, promoting elements concerning matters of national security is illegal, members of Toopoxia's thriving Theatre have only managed to obscure this law through the use of a garbelled fictional language.

"Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
No one may be compelled to belong to an association."
In the case of assemblies and associations which promote elements concerning national security are also illegal.

"The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures."
The matter of elections are handled solely by the Intelligentia Council, nobody is granted the right to vote.

These are among more matters which prevent me from joining this coalition, I do not believe through any small work you will be able to accomodate these changes through the request of one State, I will respect any endevour to do so, but I believe such actions may lead to hostility from other members of this coalition.
IndentI thank you for hearing my concerns and wish this coalition the best of luck.

Signed,
Waldemir Deskot

To Waldemir Deskot
From Edward Scissenfeld

We thank you again for your support. Though you are right your Human Rights are certainly less lax than ours. Although you shall not be joining the Coalition perhaps you could help us in the cases where you are needed. The times when a government does not look after it's people. When governments collapse. In these times all and any help is required.
Good luck and godspeed,
Edward Scissenfeld

From the desk of Waldemir Deskot, Imperial House, Volitaia.

We will certainly assist in cases where an urgent need for order is required, if it does not tax too much upon our own concerns, we thank you again for welcoming the concerns of other ideologies and for addressing our concerns, here's to the future and our continued prosperity.

Signed,
Waldemir Deskot.

(OOC: war crimes and crimes against humanity are acceptable to us for a world court organization; I hesitate to include anything else unless a given nonmember nation decided that we were a sufficiently neutral party. Still, I'd need absolute, concrete details on the workings of it to offer IC approval, not just ideas. Good basis, though, I think.)

OOC: Ok, good to know. I may set up a thread for suggestions on various rules and the like, as well as just a general discussion of the organization.

From the desk of Waldemir Deskot, Imperial House, Volitaia.
[...]


To: Waldemir Deskot

Indeed, we cannot even attempt to satisfy every one of your concerns and that was never our intent. We simply hope to amend what can be fixed in order to better present the coalition to nations run by, shall we say, less humanitarian authorities.

I will do what I can in an effort to make us at least a little more universal. While I cannot do much, I do appreciate your understanding of this matter and hope that your own violations of what we believe are rights that should be afforded to our citizens will remain, as we have seen, minor and requiring nothing in the way of foreign intervention from any sane, freedom-loving nation. We also hope that should there be cases in other nations which we both believe surpass the bounds of human decency, we may be able to work together for the benefit of our race and especially those affected.

Pax tibi.


(OOC: if you'd like to enter into an independent agreement, I have a diplomacy link in my sig that leads to a thread where treaties might be discussed, assuming your nation hasn't committed genocide in recent memory)

(OOC: if you'd like to enter into an independent agreement, I have a diplomacy link in my sig that leads to a thread where treaties might be discussed, assuming your nation hasn't committed genocide in recent memory)

(OOC: hmmm, define recent :P

Seriously, there ought not be any trouble, I have written it into my nations history that there was a bloody war between my nation and a smaller undeveloped communist neighbouring nation, which, in the context of offering human rights, might be a little blergh.

So what sort of pact are we looking at here? Some sort of original and inventive Defensive Pact, wherby I agree to offer aid and assistence on behalf of the HRS through Santheras, with applicable limitations of course, like I'm getting my arse smeared over the sandy desert floor by my former IFA team-mates for being too much of a pansy.)

(OOC: hmmm, define recent :P

Seriously, there ought not be any trouble, I have written it into my nations history that there was a bloody war between my nation and a smaller undeveloped communist neighbouring nation, which, in the context of offering human rights, might be a little blergh.

So what sort of pact are we looking at here? Some sort of original and inventive Defensive Pact, wherby I agree to offer aid and assistence on behalf of the HRS through Santheras, with applicable limitations of course, like I'm getting my arse smeared over the sandy desert floor by my former IFA team-mates for being too much of a pansy.)

(OOC: Well, since this would be an independent thing, it doesn't need to have anything to do with the HRS, nor does it necessarily have to be a defensive treaty. There's always trade concerns, or other sorts of military agreements we could enter into. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that particular pact idea. )

(OOC: Well, since this would be an independent thing, it doesn't need to have anything to do with the HRS, nor does it necessarily have to be a defensive treaty. There's always trade concerns, or other sorts of military agreements we could enter into. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that particular pact idea. )

(OOC: I'm pretty unsure myself, call it the ramblings of a sleep deprived mind if you will.

I'm always looking to increase my economy, some sort of trade pact sounds like a fine idea, i'll get back to ya in the morning when I've had sleep and many cigarettes.)