NationStates Jolt Archive


Too young to die? (MT OPEN)

Volksplatz
18-11-2008, 21:24
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Burtilana
18-11-2008, 21:35
(OOC: For a moment I thought it was a random thread in the wrong place!)

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


To: Leadersip of Volksplatz
From: President Burte, USSB
Re: Teenage Executions

I find the news of the planned execution of children disgraceful, even worse is that it will be televised! I am personally writing to beg for you not to carry out with their sentecing. A lesser sentence should be seeked, perhaps life imprisonment?
What is it that three children have done that is so bad? As far as I can see, all they are doing is rebelling, all children do this at some stage, and this is a TEEN group, teenagers generally are mostly harmless, all they want is to voice their opinions, and those voices should not fall on deaf ears, they are teh future after all.
I'll say it again, please do not murder these children.
Volksplatz
18-11-2008, 21:40
TO: President Burte, USSB
FROM: Marshal Von Jeisker, Volksplatz

They are ebing excecuted for three major crimes:
I) Membership of an illegal terrorist organisation.
II) Distribution of anti-fascist propaganda.
III) Conspiracy to murder a government official.

I hope this clarifies.

Marshall Von Jeisker
Laileto
18-11-2008, 21:48
To: Leader of Volksplatz
From: Lady Luana, President of the Republic of Laileto
Re: Teenage Executions

This event disgusts and astonishes me. To think that you would send three teenagers to their death and televise it, too! I, too, am personally writing to you to beg you not to do this. It is entirely within your rights to punish them, but execution seems too cruel. A life imprisonment sentence seems right. However, I do not see a reason for why you are punishing them at all. It seems like it is simple teenage rebellion. If you kill them, I fear that your reputation will suffer greatly. If you wish to remain seen as good and honorable, please do not kill them.
Ameriganastan
18-11-2008, 21:49
From:Lord Cody Wayne Lowery
To:Marshal Von Jeisker

"Take it from me Marshal, its not worth it.I tried this whole televised execution thing once, and it ended with me getting invaded and almost deposed.Just kill the kid in private, and those bleeding heart W.A. nations won't come down on you"
Solenial
18-11-2008, 21:50
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Official Communiqué

To: Volkslatz
From: President Robert Greene, The SRS

We demand you to not kill these youths. Your fascist government must desist or face the consequences.

Signed,

President Robert James Greene
President of The Sovereign Republic
Burtilana
18-11-2008, 21:51
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


To: Marshal Von Jeisker, Volksplatz
From: President Burte, USSB
Re: Teenage Executions

Though conspiracy to murder is a serious crime, they did not carry out the conspiracy, so why take lives, when they did not?
What evidence do you have of the conspiracy?
The membership of an illegal organisation should not mean death. When I was the leader of an illegal party, the fascists in charge did not kill me when I was captured and imprisoned. Even though I conspired against his life, mine was spared and I was jailed. The events that followed do not matter in this instance.
Finally, the distribution of anti-fascist propaganda is a negligible crime, is your grip on power that weak you fear revolution?
Volksplatz
18-11-2008, 21:52
TO: Lady Luana, President of the Republic of Laileto
FROM: Marshal Von Jeisker, Volksplatz
Regardless of their age they are enemies of the state, having conspired to assasinate my second-in-command, Vice Marchal Fritzerflut. I think it is entirely justified to punish them according to the laws of my nation; age has no matter in it.

Marshal Von Jeisker
Volksplatz
18-11-2008, 21:54
To:Lord Cody Wayne Lowery
From:Marshal Von Jeisker
I do not see why these people are concerned with what I choose to show on my television chanels. Must they intefere in everything? I will consider taking this of air, and I thank you for your kind advise.
Laileto
18-11-2008, 21:55
To: Marshal Von Jeisker, Voksplatz
From: Lady Luana, President of the Republic of Laileto

Conspiracy to murder is a dire crime and deserves a harsh punishment, but if they did not actually kill this man, I still find your planned execution too harsh. Life imprisonment is what I think would be the better punishment.
Solenial
18-11-2008, 21:58
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Official Communiqué

To: Volkslatz
From: President Robert Greene, The SRS

What does matter is you are a Fascist Opressor that must be stopped.

Signed,

President Robert James Greene
President of The Sovereign Republic
Volksplatz
18-11-2008, 22:01
To:President Robert Greene, The SRS
From:Volkslatz

You try to threaten and intimidate me, and I wonder of what political persuasion you are? You are certainly not a liberal, nor a democrat.
Solenial
18-11-2008, 22:09
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Official Communiqué

To: Volkslatz
From: President Robert Greene, The SRS

Your government is threatening and intimadating your people. We are a nation intent on protecting the civil rights of all people.

Signed,

President Robert James Greene
President of The Sovereign Republic
Burtilana
18-11-2008, 22:12
(ooc: no reply to my messege? :()
Volzgrad
18-11-2008, 22:46
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Official Communique from the Volzgradien Government

I, like my colleagues in the international community, am appalled by this show of unnecessary brutality. While we do respect the word of your justice system, executing children is far too harsh even by the standards of my infamous secret police. At worst, these children should be imprisoned for life without a chance of parole. If not that, then some forced labor will do the trick nicely. But executing little more then adolescents is a waste of bullets, TV news time, and is frankly; very unnecessary.

Signed,
Vasili Illyanovich Kavinkov
Santheres
18-11-2008, 22:50
(Does anyone else find it hilarious when supposed national leaders bicker back and forth like teenagers? ... Unless Beatus does it since their national leader currently is a teenager) (Also, IC post just because I don't want to pollute with pure OOC)

To: Marshal Von Jeisker, Volksplatz
From: The Office of the Regnant and the Diplomatic Corps of The Most Serene Noble Republic of Santheres

Despite our many differences and our distaste at the government of which you lead, we cannot impugn your sovereignty and your sacred right to act in accordance with the laws your nation has enacted and is thusly forced to uphold, if to a fault. It is in this manner that we also cannot help but acquire a certain distaste for those who would make demands of a nature that threatens your sovereignty without just cause or reasonable expectations.

Would but one of these nations take action and claim justified warfare in reaction to these events, we might understand. Of course, they wouldn't do such a thing and even if they did, it is doubtful any of their citizens would approve of sending hundreds, thousands, perhaps a million good soldiers to their deaths as response for the lawful execution of three boys who went to their deaths knowing they had committed an offense to their government. However justified they may have been in destroying what is most certainly your tyrannical regime, it was still unlawful and they knew that full well. So, our own disapproval aside, you have permission to make use of our stance in defense of your actions to any petty nation attempting to impose their impotent will over your people. One thing that must be learned by national leaders is that there are correct and incorrect ways to handle delicate affairs. Most seem to pick the latter.

If at some time we learn of mass violations of human rights within your nation, certain actions worthy of a noble nation may be required. We are sure you understand the possibilities and the consequences each thereof. If that is never the case, then we will hold in high regard your sovereignty. We hope others may do the same.

Pax tibi,
Marco de Rossi
Regnant
Miroxia
18-11-2008, 23:04
Official Message from the Desk of King Andrew Williams III of Miroxia

To Marshal Von Jeisker of Volksplatz

The government of Miroxia is not pleased to hear of this irrational decision made by your governmet. You have two days before Miroxian soldiers invade your nation and bring these teens (and the other anti-fascists) to a land of freedom. Let the records show it is 11:00 AM, Miroxian Standard Time. 48 hours.
Laileto
18-11-2008, 23:09
To: King Andrew Williams III of Miroxia
From: Lady Luana

I know this is a despicable thing the Volksplatz government is doing, but an invasion seems to be rather too much. Does Volksplatz have a history of doing things such as this?
Miroxia
18-11-2008, 23:15
Official Message from the Desk of King Andrew Williams III of Miroxia

To Lady Luana of Laileto

You make it seem as if we wish to wipe this nation off the map. We simply wish to take the "republicans" into our care by force so they may have their fair share of freedoms. God created us all equally, so we should all have an equal amount of freedom.
Laileto
18-11-2008, 23:18
To: King Andrew Williams III of Miroxia
From: Lady Luana, President of Laileto
I am sorry, I must have misread your message. What you are doing is commendable as, like you said, all people deserve freedom.
Volksplatz
19-11-2008, 19:45
To: The Office of the Regnant and the Diplomatic Corps of The Most Serene Noble Republic of Santheres
From: Marshal Von Jeisker, Volksplatz

I thank you for your support in this matter. I agree with you wholeheartedly- what right does the international community have to invade? What right do they have to destroy the laws upheld by the honour of Volksplatz? What right do they have to remove me, who was democraticly elected by the collected parliament of my beloved nation? Why do they intefere with democracy, and justice, in the name of "freedom"?

If they loved freedom so very much they would have the dignity to allow it to Volksplatz.
The Battlehawk
19-11-2008, 20:12
To: Leader of Volksplatz
From: President Daniel clark
Re: Teenage Executions

I am personaly disgusted by your decision to publicaly execute these kids. However I beleive that an Invasion is an overreaction. I would like to offer a deal. If you do not wish these 'Enemys of your state' in your country, we are happy to take custody of them, officialy, rather than a breaking of your soverign territory and taking them by force. Please make the right decision.

Signed

Daniel .J. Clark
President of the Republic of the Battlehawk
Volksplatz
19-11-2008, 20:17
To: President Daniel clark
From: Von Jesiker

This deal sounds suitable. We are happy to give you the two youngest, but the older member, and the ring leader of this plot, is 18 and technicly an adult. We will exile all of them apart from the 18 year old, who will be executed according to our law as an adult. In the interest of protecting our reputation this execution will not be televised.

Does this sound good to you, and the international community?
The Battlehawk
19-11-2008, 20:20
To: Leader of Volksplatz
From: President Daniel clark
Re: Teenage Executions

That is acceptable as the leader is a adult is moraly subject to adult law. So with your permission, a BAF Herculies with a two plane Talon escort will leave for your capital airport within the hour. I suggest we both make press statements to the effect of our agreement. Additionally, now that you have shown yourself to be moraly good nation, we offer a team of our special forces to assist in teh guarding of the execution of the adult. I hope that this is the start of a good friendship between our two nations.

Signed

Daniel .J. Clark
President of the Republic of the Battlehawk
The Battlehawk
19-11-2008, 20:20
To: Leader of Volksplatz
From: President Daniel clark
Re: Teenage Executions

That is acceptable as the leader is a adult is moraly subject to adult law. So with your permission, a BAF Herculies with a two plane Talon escort will leave for your capital airport within the hour. I suggest we both make press statements to the effect of our agreement. Additionally, now that you have shown yourself to be moraly good nation, we offer a team of our special forces to assist in teh guarding of the execution of the adult. I hope that this is the start of a good friendship between our two nations.

Signed

Daniel .J. Clark
President of the Republic of the Battlehawk
Volksplatz
19-11-2008, 20:23
To: President Daniel clark
From: Von Jesiker
I will deliver a speach at the transfer. You can land your planes at Deiseldorf Airport, which is within a short distance of the prison in which they are being kept. The adult will be executed within the next three hours.

Sincerely,

Marshal Von Jeisker
The Battlehawk
19-11-2008, 20:30
"Royale one, this is President Clark" Daniel said into a phone
"Royale one here Mr president, do we have a green light?"
"Thats affirmative, you are authorised to entere Volksplatzian airspce" daniel confirmed "The Gamma force are to report into their security services when we land"
"Yes sir, changeing course now" The pilot responded changeing the palnes direction

To: Von Jesiker
From: Daniel Clark

Understood, our planes are on their way, I'll have me gamma force report to your security services when they arrived, good luck Marshal.

SIgned Daniel .J. Clark
President of the Republic of the Battlehawk
Volksplatz
19-11-2008, 20:34
To: President Daniel Clark
From: Von Jesiker

I am preparing for the execution of the adult, which I will attend personaly. You may choose if you wish your men to witness it or not. In the mean time I am preparing my speech.

My thanks to you.

Marshal Von Jeisker
The Battlehawk
19-11-2008, 20:36
OOC: We'll have to wait for the others before the execution in case they try anything, i guess we'll have to strech out the waiting period
Volksplatz
19-11-2008, 20:48
OOC: OK, though I shouldnt expect anyone would have a problem with the current arangement.
The Battlehawk
19-11-2008, 20:52
OOC: I'll put my plane landing at your airport

"Deiseldorf Tower, Deiseldorf Tower, the is Battlehhawk Royale one, request landing clearance" Royales ones pilot requested
Volksplatz
19-11-2008, 20:56
"Permision granted." said the controller. "Good luck." the words sounded somewhat sinister, but they were an essentialy kind remark. The runway was uneven and cracked in places. It was not used often.
The Battlehawk
19-11-2008, 21:00
"Oh dear lord" The Pilot exclaimed looking down at the runway, seconds later the planes was on the ground, after a few bumps she came to a stop at the end. She then turned and taxied towards a holding area.
Chiasia
19-11-2008, 21:06
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Communication of Federation of Chiasia Government.
To: Leadership of Volksplatz.
From: Chiasian Premier, Hei Xu.
Subject: Teenage Executions.
Encryption: Medium.

Dear sir/ma'am,

Chiasia is glad to see another nation finally take notice of the threat terrorists pose, regardless of age. We recently executed five teenagers for hacking into their parent's bank accounts and using their parent's money to support a terrorist organization, with permission which we were given.

My only request is for it not to be televised; indeed, doing such is barabic and I'm not sure that your average citizen wishes to be flicking through the television channels and see blood, especially if they are eating.

Anyway, well done.

Yours,
Premier Hei Xu.
Volksplatz
19-11-2008, 21:14
OOC: How did u know this was parilisa? Yeah, im just experimenting with a fascist nation cos its the utter opposite of Parilisa.

TO: Premier Hei Xu
FROM: Marshal Von Jeisker

We are now only executing one terrorist and it is not being shown on TV. Such is the oppressive rule of our enemies. A shame, but a necesity for the future of Volksplatz.
Chiasia
19-11-2008, 21:30
((OOC: I know everything. :hail: Seriously, I was looking at another thread started by Parilisa before looking at this.))
Vojvodina-Nihon
19-11-2008, 22:32
From the desk of the High King:
[Handwritten Note]
[Delivered to Marshal von Jeisker by Federal Express]

Executing teenagers! I've got three kids and, to be honest, there are times when I wanted to do that myself. And I could have, too. I'm the freaking King!

But I didn't. And you know why? Because no matter how criminal they get as teens, when they grow up, they're invariably nice, sweet people who will do fine with inheriting the royal throne. Or they're *still* criminals, in which case you can execute them then. Either way. In future though, I'd recommend some different punishments -- if you execute them they go out like martyrs, with all the "You'll take our lives but you'll never take our freedom!" schtick, but ground 'em? Take away their iPods? Suspend their credit cards? Just wait a week or two, Marshal. They'll come crawling back begging to be allowed to lick your boots, mark my words.

Cheers,

J2L
By the Grace of God, His Royal Majesty, His Excellency, Staff Sergeant (ret.) John II Leyden, High King of Vojvodina-Nihon and All Her Dominions, Protector of the Void, Wielder of the Iron Staff, Duke of Nova, Monarch of the Federation, Lord of the Thousand Houses, and so on, and so forth
The Grand World Order
20-11-2008, 03:00
To: All Nations Hostile to Volksplatz
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs

You will stand down, or be forced to bear witness as your soldiers are hung, skinned, shredded, and forcefed to noncompliant POWs. The Imperial Fascist Alliance was created to fight scum like yourselves; and we shall. If your nations so much as fire a bullet into their homeland, we will not hesitate to barbecue your capital city with our space-based laser systems and god rods. Any soldier that steps into Volksplatz will either defect to us or die. Or, they can stay in their little harbors and live a full life. It's your choice.

Encrypted Message
To: Volksplatz
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs

We would like to request permission to deploy a substantial force of our own troops to your nation. ((OOC: Keeping numbers out because I KNOW that the others will metagame against my troop deployment and send double amounts of troops, even though this deployment is generally secret.)) These forces will include ships, ground forces, armadas of combat aircraft, and enough ordnance to label two uranium-tipped cruise missiles as obscure. You requested our aid; we're only too happy to oblige.
Burtilana
20-11-2008, 03:34
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


To: Marshal Von Jeisker, Volksplatz
From: President Burte, USSB
Re: Teenage Executions

Upon hearing the news of the two youngest prisoners being deported to Battlehawk, and the eldest being executed, I feel slightly happier.
The eldest is an aldult under your law system, therefore allowed to be punished as an adult. Though I still feel capital punishment is wrong, that is your nation's choice, not mine, and I do not wish to start hostilities over it. The two younger prisoners can now be rehabilitated in Battlehawk and shall hopefully lead normal lives, without posing a threat to your country anymore.
I still wish to know what evidence of a conspiracy you have though.
Belkaros
20-11-2008, 04:26
FROM THE DESK OF IMPERATOR GN. MUNDUS I, IMPERIUM OF BELKAROS
TO ALL INVOLVED PARTIES

Esteemed leaders,
The right to punish criminals is one of the most basic rights of any sovereign nation. That any "freedom loving" nation would oppose the Volksplatz government's plans to punish these dissidents is pure hypocrisy. The Imperium of Belkaros will not stand for this sort of infringement on Volksplatz's rights as a nation. To even ask for a lesser sentence for these proven terrorists is a gross insult to the leadership of this nation. I suggest all non-IFA states cease and desist before hostilities break out. Belkan troops are being prepped for deployment to Volksplatz to support native defenders against all threats.

Yours,
Gnaeus Mundus I
Emperor of Belkaros
Burtilana
20-11-2008, 17:21
OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION
of the
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF BURTILANA


To: IMPERATOR GN. MUNDUS I, IMPERIUM OF BELKAROS
From: Harvey Wells, Foriegn Minister of the USSB
Re:Executions

Whilst our nation will not get involved in further conflict, we have asked for evidence of the conspiracy twice, and have received no reply on both occasions. These "proven terrorists" as you put it, could merely be innocent scapegoats got in the wrong place at the wrong time. What proof is there that they are "proven"?.
On a further note, I feel that this case is closed, the two youngest are being deported. and only one, innocent, or not, is going to their death. It is a compromise We all must be willing to take to end this dispute.
Volksplatz
20-11-2008, 20:29
****TOP SECRET****

TO:The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs
FROM: Marhsall Von Jeisker, Supreme Leader of Volksplatz
Though this situation now seems to be under control I am more than happy to accept your most generous offer of military support. As a small nation who has already caused controversey, we will probably need your aid for some time.

Once again I thank you.

Von Jeisker
The Grand World Order
21-11-2008, 02:04
Encrypted

To: Marshall Von Jeisker
From: The Grand World Order Office of Foreign Affairs

Very well, then. A force of 575,000 GWO troops is prepared to be stationed across your country to aid in defense, should it be necessary.