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This isnt official but i was thinking about making like a group of specially trained soldiers that come from the nations involved and are open to the use of all member nations for whatever cause if approved by the rest of the nations. This way we can buy more things with our combined finances and have better technology than everyone else. It would be like the UN except for military use and after a while we could expand. anyone interested.

Sounds like an interesting idea

i have been attempting idea like this and i would be interested as well

I'd be interested but what would we call it?

how about SPECTOR. Special Permanent Enforcement Collectively Toward Operational Resources

or
UNDEAD
Unified Nations Defensive and Enforcement Agency of Destruction (Defense, death, etc

I'd be interested, but isn't this just a Military Alliance?

That's what he's trying to say with the "like UN" bit Leskov.


We could call it one of these:

N.A.T.T = National Anti-Terror Team.
G.M.S.T = Global Military Strike Team.
U.M.S.T = United Military Strike Team.
A.T.D.U = Anti-Terror Defence Unit.

Those are just a few that I thought of.

I'd be interested.

W.C.T.O = World Counter Terror Operation.
I.O.A.T = International Operation Anti-Terror.
D.R.O = Defence Recon Operations.

yea its pretty much a military alliance and maybe political, like i said with the UN and maybe eventually we could expand later. I was thinking we could run campaigns for different spots in office in this organization too. We would all have to work together on this though cuz i dont want to be the only organizing things so i would appreciate it if you guys would help. None of you guys are communist or socialist or a dictatorship either, right?

I as thinking calling it I.S.F for International Spaecial Forces but we should vote on a name. Everyone who has posted is a member right now(if they want to) and we can make decisions on who to let in as they come.

I'm a 100% stable democracy, mate.

Anyway, I believe that we should create, if popularity surges, an offsite forum (which I will set up). There, infomation and meetings are stored, along with archives of operations. Ofcourse, all our ops are posted on II.

I vote for D.R.O. Also, I'm a democratic society.

We should vote on a name. And i was thinking that we could run campaigns for different spots in office. We are gonna have to make requirments for membership spots that we all agree on. And I dont want to be the only one organizing things so you guys are free to make suggestions and do things, but any big decisions we all need to vote on.

sorry about repeating myself

How about we have CRIB for it's 'MI5' sister?

Charlie Rose Intelligence Branch.

I kinda like U.S.M.T but we will all take a vote eventually. Lets get some more things set up first. I saw that Leskov is a corrupt dictatorship. Do you think we should allow him.

what

I believe that it is up to him. He can either do a 'no, really, we're a democracy but your *censored* media *censored* makes us look *censored* bad' or not join. Eh?

I guess, i dont really care i just dont want him or anyone going off and starting random wars with our organizations name

do you want to start making criteria for entrance

Hernland you should definatley set that website up. We can have elections and we can pretty much make the UN. Awesome if you could do that.

What's it being called? I'll put NSF for now...

This isnt official but i was thinking about making like a group of specially trained soldiers that come from the nations involved and are open to the use of all member nations for whatever cause if approved by the rest of the nations. This way we can buy more things with our combined finances and have better technology than everyone else. It would be like the UN except for military use and after a while we could expand. anyone interested.


Rainbow Six much? :wink:

I'll be interested.

Rainbow Six much? :wink:

Can you read my mind? On the directory of the board, I put 'The Rainbow Six of NationStates'.

Can you read my mind? On the directory of the board, I put 'The Rainbow Six of NationStates'.

haha...I dunno if you have a link up yet somewhere, but if you do I definately didn't see it. But yeah, cool idea. I think it was tried before. If you all want I'll have a buddy of mine who uses a nation which directly sponsors international Islamic Fundamentalist terrorism RP with ya. Give you all some operations to conduct.

But for a name, I'd say International Joint Strike Force (IJSF) or International Clandestine Services Unit (ICSU). And perhaps I'll contribute to it. Many say that the Wanderjarian Special Air Service (previously referred to as Grenzschutzgruppe Nine/GSG-9) is the finest special operations unit in II. At any rate, I'll gladly help y'all out.

I do like the IJSF and those operations sound fun. But we need some rules. A constitution if you will.

What about United Peace Force (UPF)?

http://z13.invisionfree.com/NSF/index.php?act=idx

That would be contridictory to what we are
we will be involved in many wars i presume

God, I set that up quick. By the way, hurry up and name the thing! :p

Is that link just a forum or our Website

For the ultimate goal of peace

Were goin with the International Joint Strike Force

Forum. Hope that's OK. :)

Thats good IJSF

http://s13.invisionfree.com/IJSF

New URL..

Thats fine so we just talk about what ever we want on that, ok whatever thats fine. Heres members so far Hernland, Battlehawk, wanderjar, lynion, aaoronian empire, ursava, festejar

Im probly not gonna be able to talk for the rest of the night so continue to do things just dont do anything dumb

Cheers. :) Comment on forum, please!

Forum looks good

I also advise we havve an IC conferrence

We'll do that soon, mate. I'll create a board for conferences and that. How about a yearly conference?

If not monthly and whenever a crisis happens. We'll need a conference soon to decide policy and stuff so we know when to intervene

I'm interested. Falkasia has one of the Special Forces Groups in the World.

How about RAINBOW, as play on the Rainbow 6 Counter-Terror Teams?

RAINBOW is just too 'we copied Clancy in ever way', ya know? :p

Anyway, I'm not renaming the forum. Again! :(:p:eek2:

Ok. Oh, and your forum has registration problems by the way.

Indeed it does, no Validation emails

As I love things Military I guess im interested. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAH *Cough*

Ah. I'll disable it, then. Sorry! :p

Working now?

Yes

*thanks Jesus* :p

i like the name

I know...So, sexy...:D

Anyway, should we set up an intro on these forums?

Sure

Yea, and thanks for fixing it.

On a side note, I'd suggest creating a subforum for each nation's Special Forces, but that might take up too much space.

so I guess we really will not be doing anything until tommarow ey?

Nope, NL. I'm still getting the skinning sorted! :)

Anyway, I'll do what Falkasia suggested soon. ;)

great idea Falkasia

Thanks, glad you liked it.

Hey if I am a corporate police state most days, am I excluded from eligibility for this?

OMG Its a Telivanni OMG MORRROWIND WOOT wow im embarresed....

Falkasia you are a member but Tel Amur you can be a member as long as you dont go around doing stupid things

i also think that having a conference sooon is a good idea to set up ideas and other things. I think during the conference we should be thorough on many aspects of this alliance. Can we have it in two weeks though. This week is going to be busy for me with WKCE testing for school and my grandpa died so can we set it for like 2-3 weeks

I joined the forum and I'll make a post soon.

love the forum i think this organization is really going to work!

Yea, it looks awesome. Thanks for accepting me and my condolences for you and your family regarding your Grandpa. I know how it feels to lose a loved one.

if only my special forces weren't mostly anti terrriorist and anti super national
i may join anyway though.
also (tagged)

My guys are KSK and Spetsnaz combined. Very rigorous training. Oh, and through a little Ghost Recon Training in there as well.

I'll only be committing my Lynion Assassin's to this cause.

I know...So, sexy...:D

Anyway, should we set up an intro on these forums?

What can I say, we spook types know how its done :wink:

I see you still got that awesome sig Lynion, lol.

My guys are KSK and Spetsnaz combined. Very rigorous training. Oh, and through a little Ghost Recon Training in there as well.

Being extremely well versed on special operations training I'd say your best bet would be to copy BUDS (Basic Underwater Demolition School) and then "The Finishing School" (Eighteen Months of intensive training in Advanced Driving, Diving, Advanced Diving, Airborne, Advanced Airborne, Political Warfare School, Jungle Warfare, Mountain Warfare, Arctic Warfare, Desert Warfare, and Urban Warfare, as well as small unit tactics..all in all two and a half years before earning the "Budweiser Trident"). This is the training of the United States Navy Sea Air and Land (SEAL) Teams, Special Development Teams, and Special Warfare Combatant-craft Crewmen. You'll get a small, highly trained, diversely specified, and elite set of special operations forces.

Oh and "Ghost Recon's" training is Army Special Forces "Selection". Really nothing different. Not to say that its easy by any stretch, but completely and totally different from BUDS, and frankly not as difficult on the individual's mind or body.

What can I say, we spook types know how its done :wink:

Oh (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=503327) RLY (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=570954)?
IIRC, your GSG-9 men got drunk in a bar while I got stuck doing most of the "work".
But if you wanna show 'em how it's done, see 2nd link; join if interested.
*Alleana is playing around with Griffy, so I'm bored as hell; besides, the Milex never panned-out, ere's th sign-up to teh rematch in a cage (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=570485).

If still looking for a name, some in which Wandejar inspired an alliance to think of (http://z9.invisionfree.com/GASN/index.php?showtopic=488), but was never really acted upon.
Fremen? First Response Elite Missions in Enemy Nations
Spectre-6? Special Counter Terrorist Recon Division Six

The big-kill to the project was that we knew we wanted indistinct weapons that were hard to trace, but couldn't agree on any standards.

Leskov's UN Category is 'Corrupt Dictatorship', but that's just because we are recovering from a Civil War. We have enough Military Support and an Honest Government but it could take a little while until our Civil Rights and Political Freedoms to improve. If ever my nation plunges into self-destruct mode again i would not expect the members of this organisation to interfere if they didn't want to.

yea i already have you down as a member, but if your country becomes a liability i would hope you had enough self respect to resign.

welcome aboard though

thanks

Hmm, I may add some of my forces to this. The operatives of Special Branch's Military Wing should suffice.

you have to fill out an applicati0n form or we will just delete you as a member right away.

Ive looked at your homepage and you seem stable, but I will let you know right now, dont get the idea that you will be more important than anyone else in this ORG. you will have just as much say in matters as anyone else,but i still want you to contribut. and if you start to do anything out of line or that mis represents this organization. You will be quickly removed from the IJSF by the administrator of the forum. If you plan on just joining and not contributing you might as well not even fill a form out. Understood?

Hmm... I want to join; my 400 Bodyguard units and my 10000 S.O.N. units could become even more awesome than they ever were before.

Ive looked at your homepage and you seem stable, but I will let you know right now, dont get the idea that you will be more important than anyone else in this ORG. you will have just as much say in matters as anyone else,but i still want you to contribut. and if you start to do anything out of line or that mis represents this organization. You will be quickly removed from the IJSF by the administrator of the forum. If you plan on just joining and not contributing you might as well not even fill a form out. Understood?

Actually, I won't bother. Thanks for considering me though.

I could provide about 40 Advanced Agressive Reconaissance troops...

If you join i can tell you that you will not have 10,000 troops. HA. Mote like 200. Specially trained soldiers. Advanced and skilled. Not quantity. You both will have to fill out an application form if you would like to be part of this ORG . AND PLEASE DONT JUST JOIN AND FORGET ABOUT IT. YOU HAVE TOP CONTRIBUTE. for the app form just make a list of things about your country(true) and just tell us the usual mandatory stuff.

List of things of my country?

My factbook link is in my signature.

And what usual mandatory stuff?

Also, just because I have a 892,800 kilogram special forces army doesn't mean that they're not awesome and highly trained.

List of things of my country?

My factbook link is in my signature.

And what usual mandatory stuff?

Also, just because I have a 892,800 kilogram special forces army doesn't mean that they're not awesome and highly trained.
If I wasn't short on sleep, I'd chuckle at your factbook.
Nostalgia does that sort of thing.

To get 5% militarization, most places would resort to military-run police states with short life expectancies past retirement*. To gauarntee any recognition of quality in your troops, cut it in half, then send half of that into the air-force/navy, and the rest into a militia someplace save for some badassed Marine drill sgts.

FWIW, I could steamroll your nation (in current military statblock) in spite of capping my stats in '07**.

*It generally not a good idea to use frontline combat-troops over 60 years old, or under the age of 6 for that matter. And those not in the military would have to be breeders to make sure there's always X amount of boys and girls fit for service. (All issues if you're going to bring up South-Korea's percentage of men-at-arms and per-capita spending)

**4.2 million in active and resserve, population of... ~4 billion...
-30 million employed in civillian defensive contracts (building+maintaining weapons, barracks, ships, and surplus weapons)
-22 million Para-military police officers
=That's about 1.5% of my countrymen-at-arms, but only 0.105% will even have a remote chance of seeing combat overseas.

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So, um, if I were to join, how much 'o my forces would have to show up to the meetings?
Cause if you guess want more than a rifle-company plus artillery support...
Look elsewhere.

Ok niramaya just dont even think about it. Hurtful thoughts in the other hand, you are more than welcome to join. you seem very intelligent and qualified. All we ask is you show up at conferences and contribute to discussions. you would just need to supply a few specially trained units(around 250-1000) or more if you would like. So if your still interested welcome to the crew.

...

I may have to create a whole new security clearance catagory* for that "battalion"... ~800 people spread amongst many units. (5 companies from 5 divisions)

I'll pull these troops from Hurtian Marine Raider divisions (I already have 3 grades of "elite", this new security clearance would place that unit on a whole different level).

This clearance is due to certain unsavory aspects of my nation that may need cooperation in order to most efficiently achieve their stated goals (AKA "I has spies and double-agents, and known double agents working against me").

*Hint hint in C-box

Sorry things didn't work out too well upon application.

I'll consider it that the background check rejected me from entry.

Maybe some other time when either your alliance becomes disillusioned or when I'm finally done doing what I do, then we can have more friendly relations.

But currently, we are idealogically opposed.

Kinda ironic, Wanderjar provided the (tactical) nukes for that precise purpose... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF79U0B_ze0)
438 days ago.
All OOC/hypothetical IC of course.

I know lots, far too much to consider myself "clean".

Edit:
*And no, I won't go Jihad on your alliance, you're for a good cause and all that, although I think you're a bit misguided regarding how to confront the risk of a nuclear exchange.

A lot of the 'rogue' nations will be quite large and independent, with no regard to anything resembling the Geneva conventions. So in any nuclear conflict, you'd be almost garanteed to be on the short-end of the stick. Especially if they ever decided to band together (http://z9.invisionfree.com/GASN/index.php?showtopic=134&st=15).

Ok, can someone fill me in on what I missed? Oh, and with my incredibly large anti-ballistic missile satellite banks in orbit, I'm pretty much protected from any and all nuclear exchanges.

I'm a newbie empire, but I think this is a good idea. Pls keep me informed.

Will do. If nobody hasn't already, let me be the first to welcome you to NS! I highly recommend you read the forum guides (often called stickies) on the main International Incidents page. That should give you a good overview of the game, although make sure you don't read every one! That would cause quite a headache! Again, welcome and if you need anything don't hesitate to contact me.