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This is the planned coalition from the State of the World thread.

Any people want to join up? All welcome as long as you fulfill these basic requirements.

1) Must be a dedicated roleplayer, willing to spend time and effort.
2) No nations with a population under 100 Million (These is just to keep out noobs, if you have a population under 100 Million please attach a RP sample with your interest post.)
3) Your nation must NOT have a history of breaches in human rights e.g Genocide. If you are a new government and trying to reform well that is different.
4) You have to be able to follow the constitution, which will be decided members.

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OOC: What will the member be required to do?

I'd be interested.

(OOC: ah if only Fictions was not the way it is, I would join)

OOC: Well members would be required to help in some way to the prevention of Human rights breaches. There will be a committee which will decide what each breach of human rights requires to sort the problem out. E.g A warning letter or invasion. Each nation would have a say in what happened but the Comitee would ultimately decide what happens they will be selected by the members and shall change regularly. The member will have to pledge some form of support right at the beginning. E.g supplies, cash, troops etc. I would like to have an descent sized military force for extreme circumstances. We will also try to be a peacekeeping force in places where they are needed most.
DaWoad, when we have some more intrest I will set up a meeting. We can discuss what to do about entry rules, needs and requirements of members a constitution etc.
Fictions if you really want in, you can. Just 'reform' your government and since I know your an ok RPer you can come along.

Tilsitsin is interested.

Welcome aboard Tilsitsin!
Well does anyone have any suggestions? Anything we should or should not do? Any views? And who (Preferably a large powerful nation as I am not) wants to co-run / organize this coalition?

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Fictions if you really want in, you can. Just 'reform' your government and since I know your an ok RPer you can come along.

(OOC: I'm planning a reform, i have an intro written out, but part of me likes having an oppressive government...)

Yeh, It would be easier.....

(I guess, but probably the human rights people will at send a complaint message, if they can be bothered with a small and internationally insignificant country that is xD)

I'm not a huge nation by any means, but I'd be happy to take a lead on this if no one else wants to. Either way, let me know... :)

I'm very interested.

Great, thanks a lot Tilsitsin, and I'm sorry if I'm wrong but there are very few nations of your size still RPing. If you would help that would be great. We could be joint directors of the coalition or something.
Welcome Parilisa!
We need a name for the coalition, any ideas? And we need to make a first draft of the constitution. Tilsitsin could you do that? I would it's just i'm really busy with something at the moment. If not you guys will all have to wait a bit until I get my arse into gear.....

(goodluck combating human rights breaches, i wish you the best)

Thanks Fictions, I may join your thread if that's ok, come back when you aren't murdering your population...... lol

(sure, you can join if you like, and of course i'll come back at that time)

I'll get onto drafting the constitution now.

Thanks a lot mate, sorry about this. I would suggest that the definition is the one used by the UN or something like that. What do you think?

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OOC: You know this name is very, very close to a RL gay rights organization, right?

The RL group's name is Human Rights Campaign.

Well, we don't actually have a name yet, it is just what we are. That is coincidental. However it is a good name for us.....

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Why don't you call yourself the World Liberator's?

hmmm, good idea that would be a good one. Thanks Lynion.

Hahaha... anyhow, I won't be joining your Coalition but I wish you luck.

if this ever gets off the ground the chazakains may wish to join.

Awwww, Thanks anyway!
Well, once we have a constitution we are in business!

(Since Tilsitsin hasn't posted yet here is the first draft)

The Constitution : First Draft

All Nations must follow the Human Rights set down in this constitution. Furthermore they must want to and take action to stop the breaches of these basic rules all across the world, even if it may require Military force.

All nations have the opportunity vote for a three nation Committee which will decide which situations to get involved with. They will need to be nominated by a nation and then seconded by another, if this happens they will go to vote. They shall be the voice of the Coalition and there word is final. All decisions made by them must have a majority vote. The Committee's word is final unless a majority vote amongst member nations decides to repeal any decision made by the Committee. Any Nation has a say in what they think and the situation at hand. Any nation can suggest what kind of action to take place and may notify the committee of any situations. Only the Committee has the power to change the Constitution.
A new Committee shall be voted every three months (RL) and the first elections shall take place in three months (February 6th 2009). The default Committee members are Whiskeasy, Tilsitsin and one more to be decided.

All Nations must be prepared form the start to give some form of support to every problem recognized by the Committee. If this is military, huminatirian aide or monetary it must be made clear from the start. Nearly all Nations will be needed to take military action, only a few will be allowed in just to give diplomatic and huminatarian aide.

Most problems will be attempted to sorted out via diplomacy, if all else fails then military action shall take place in extreme circumstances.

All nations have the opportunity to leave at any time, although they are reminded they have made a commitment and loyalty oath.

The Committee has the right to suspend or expel any nation from the alliance, pending an investigation and majority vote.

Any nation can put forward a motion for the Council to vote on.

Inter-member aggression is forbidden and any member/s which partake in this shall be immediately suspended until an investigation decides what is best.

All nations joining must agree to this constitution.

The Human Rights
Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.

Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Article 4

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Article 5

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 6

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

Article 7

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 8

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

Article 9

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 10

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Article 11

Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
Article 12

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Article 13

Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each State.
Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
Article 14

Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Article 15

Everyone has the right to a nationality.
No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
Article 16

Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
Article 17

Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 19

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

Article 20

Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Article 21

Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
Everyone has the right to equal access to public service in his country.
The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.
Article 22

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

Article 23

Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.
Article 24

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.

Article 25

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.
Article 26

Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.
Article 27

Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.
Article 28

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.

Article 29

Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
(Any thoughts good, bad, add something, remove something? We need one more Committee member, any takers? It will be a hard job.

All Nations must follow the Human Rights set down in this constitution.

Where are the rights? We need at least some basic rights sent down in stone before we start signing anything. I'd recommend rights: 1,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12(modified somewhat) ,14,17,18,19(modified),20, 21,22 in my factbook/constitution.

Oh S**t, forgot to do that. I thought we could use the UN's definition and list. It will be a huge list of stuff on this page so I will add a link to the web-page.

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OOC: Well members would be required to help in some way to the prevention of Human rights breaches. There will be a committee which will decide what each breach of human rights requires to sort the problem out. E.g A warning letter or invasion. Each nation would have a say in what happened but the Comitee would ultimately decide what happens they will be selected by the members and shall change regularly. The member will have to pledge some form of support right at the beginning. E.g supplies, cash, troops etc. I would like to have an descent sized military force for extreme circumstances. We will also try to be a peacekeeping force in places where they are needed most.
DaWoad, when we have some more intrest I will set up a meeting. We can discuss what to do about entry rules, needs and requirements of members a constitution etc.
Fictions if you really want in, you can. Just 'reform' your government and since I know your an ok RPer you can come along.

works for me . . .also I can provide some forces.

Thanks a lot DaWoad. Could I interest you with a spot in the committee?

Hello my nation is like the north korea of Europe and is a stalinist, straight jacket and harsh society. I think the coalition should have a list of its own "Axis of Evil" or "Outpost of tyranny" based on thier RP and W.A government catagory and every now and then you send a telegram to that country asking if it will recieve Coalition Rights Inspectors and together they can RP a group of the inspectors visiting the country and tour the nations prisons and government institutions for any signs of oppression and at the end of the RP the inspectors gives that nation a list of things it needs to improve like

#1 higher rations for the prisons
#2 higher press freedom
#3 Free and fair elections with multiple parties
#4 end of torture
#5 allow greater freedom of assembly in public and free demonstration

etc

Becuase if you had this I know I would participate and allow civil rights inpsectors to tour my jails and stuff for evidence of Oppression

Well I don't know if that should be in the constitution but we could set up a voluntary initiative

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The term "human rights" is somewhat obscure-clarify so we know what we're agreeing to, as protecting Russian and Japanese whaling is not something we'd care to be drawn into.

(you might want to act in operation opening shackles, its a huge slavery operation where thousands are being sold into bondage in many cities. Its directly related to the state of the world thread and the civil war in ralkovia. You interested?)

The term "human rights" is somewhat obscure-clarify so we know what we're agreeing to, as protecting Russian and Japanese whaling is not something we'd care to be drawn into.
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Well, whaling isn't really Human Rights, it is animal rights. I think we are only going to focus on major problems anyway. Let smaller groups deal with smaller problems. I think we should try and combat genocide, slavery and oppression rather than Whaling.

(you might want to act in operation opening shackles, its a huge slavery operation where thousands are being sold into bondage in many cities. Its directly related to the state of the world thread and the civil war in ralkovia. You interested?)
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Yeah, I'm interested, maybe a few other people here will join me? Where do I sign up?

Its on the forums right now, you just have to join

Ok then will do!

Link

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=571817

Thanks a lot. :-)

sure

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